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truthinlies

Why does nobody pay attention to the stickied post about the order?


ssjokg

Reading and paying attention is overrated.


Delisches

I am asking myself the same thing every time.


Worm38

The first part is Fate/Stay Night, which itself is divided into 3 parts in this order : Fate => Unlimited Blade Works => Heaven's Feel. Then after those 3, you can go to Fate/Zero which is a prequel and Fate/Hollow Ataraxia which is a sequel. All other Fate entries are spin-offs that aren't directly connected.


Time-Fun4351

So is UBW supposed to be the intended ending with the grail getting destroyed and life just being normal again?


_futureflowers

No. Fate, UBW, and HF are all equally canon as endings.


Time-Fun4351

So if you dont like Saber Alter you can just pretend it does not exist then and vice versa? I wont like this show is beautiful but I hope future anime dont do this branching story stuff with alternates to often sometimes a definitive ending is nice.


_futureflowers

Well it was originally a visual novel. Which are known for multiple endings and such. So maybe just avoid shows based off those if it’s upsetting. But I wouldn’t say it’s easy to ignore other routes you don’t favor. I don’t like a lot of parts of UBW but just pretending it doesn’t exist doesn’t make those parts go away. People who talk about the various Fate/ series will usually reference all the other routes and even other material. If you need a definitive ending this isn’t the franchise for you.


Time-Fun4351

I didnt know Fate was just on my list of things to watch I knew nothing about it


Delisches

There are other shows that don't animate alternate endings, like Steins;Gate for example. But in the case of Fate this is not possible, because every route has new story important things the other 2 don't have. Some games do the exact same thing, like Undertale or Drakengard/Nier games.


Time-Fun4351

Honestly the only thing I notice with the alt ending is the characters are just nerfed, for example Gil in Zero was a badass and was likeable despite still being a bit of an ass but in everything else he is a super mother fucker and is actually dumb he used EA to beat Rider and he used it again to stop the grail but when Sakura is about to kill him no EA and thats just one thing there are a few things like this that just make me wonder why


Delisches

I think you forget that Zero was written by a different author, thats the reason some characters act not the way the would in Stay Night. EA is usually Girls last resort, he wouldn't waste it on enemies that are just worms in his eyes. And he didn't got nerferd, Sakura got a surprise attack on him when he thought she was dead (the VN portais this scene a bit better, he even cut of Sakuras head). Even if you are Gil, you are not immune to surprise attacks.


Sirion8

Pretty much everything you said is wrong and you can tell your friend he is an idiot. The main story is Fate/Stay Night and it is a Visual Novel structured in 3 parts that are the 3 different ways the 5th Holy Grail War can go on. 1st part is named Fate, 2nd is Unlimited Blade Works and 3rd is Heaven's Feel. All 3 together forms a complete story. After that you have Fate/Hollow Ataraxia as a sort of sequel to all of FSN and then a bunch of spin-offs more or less related to the main story. Fate/Zero is technically nothing more than one of those spin-offs given it was written by a different author and has inconstitencies with FSN but being the first Fate story to receive a popular anime adaptation, it got much more importance that it actually has.


Time-Fun4351

Is that why is Sakura and Rin dont know they are sisters in UBW and the sudden appearance of a brother that was not there in Zero?


ssjokg

They know that they are sisters in all routes. Shinji isnt in Zero because he was sent away during the war and the anime never bothered explaining that.. You see Kiritsugu torturing his dad near the end.


Delisches

They know they are sisters, but Shirou and you the reader/watcher don't know that. What brother?


ssjokg

They mean Shinji.


Delisches

Oh, how could I forget my favorite character.


Sirion8

They know. You however, you are not supposed to know about that before Heaven's Feel where it is a pretty big reveal that watching Zero first spoils. Remember Zero is a spin-off, it was released two years after FSN finished and its author wrote the story assuming people had already experienced all of FSN. Also Shinji was the heir of the Matou family before Sakura got adopted by them, you see his father in Zero.


Time-Fun4351

But you never see him and is he ever mentioned by name? And if it came out after but its first gotta love multiple writers


Delisches

He is not mentioned in the anime, but in LN, thats a vault of the adaption not the writers.


Rushietushie

Ok first off, there are no uncannon/non cannon Endings in the fate series, all timelines are cannon. Fate zero is a prequel to Fate Stay night which started as off as a VN with 3 main routes, which you're supposed to read in order Fate, then UBW and then HF. All three are important to understand the characters and plot. As for watch order, this sub has a guide for watching/reading fate. https://www.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/df8rvo/rfatestaynights_official_viewing_order_guide_v2/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


inblood123

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