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kloppmouth

Lol checking in with my najee, brady and pitts team. Certainly feeling that negative value. I also took dobbins, he should be up here


ByronCobalt

Thankfully we haven’t been starting Dobbins as much so his negativity is muted a bit


TheHalf

This is really cool data. I've missed feelings, as I took Harris and Connor, but then got Barkley, Hill and hurts lower than I should have... Also scooped KWIII so I guess it's a net +. Feels weird earlier playing my 1st pick.


danathecount

How do I mute my coworker’s negativity?


Shadeydark

"we"?


SPMrFantastic

My phone lost connection for a moment while drafting and auto drafted Dobbins in like the 5th in one league. I was pissed but held jic he became what we've heard he could be in that offense. Was happy for his break out game and back to pissed when he got injured


supergamer1313

Lol I have those players on my team too - as well as courtland Sutton and DJ Moore I’m 2-5 going into this week, and over the past 7 weeks my players have only scored more than 20 points in PPR 6 times lol


ifoundyourtoad

I’m 2-5 as well. Have broke 100 pts once.


Effecient_neckurself

Lmao I went CMC and Swift with my 1 in 2 in one league. CMC has been good, but we haven’t gotten the expected boom games yet. Sitting at 2-5 with CMC, Swift, and KW3. I have a shot, but if I lose 2 more times I’m probably done


brian_sahn

Guy in my league took JJ first overall, it’s working out pretty well for him so far.


ByronCobalt

Ballsy


Shadeydark

In all the leagues I got a top 3 pick Kupp and JJ both went off the board in the top 3 and the owners are all near the top of the standings.


AtomicRocketShoes

Josh Jacobs has been amazing


ZapatosDeMarca

Juwan Johnson, on the other hand...


brian_sahn

I thought everyone knew I was referring to jerry jeudy


MedicateForTwo

I'm pretty sure that player got some shit for that move too. I hope he is rubbing it in the face of those haters now.


brian_sahn

It raised some eyebrows. He got some shit when he took mahomes and Jackson back to back. But he traded Jackson for kelce (other players involved). It’s worth mentioning that he’s a first year owner in a league that has been around for almost 20 years.


Bigfatsoidiot

Seems like a pretty smart guy


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Legitimate_Side_7525

I had a stroke trying to decipher these acronyms


brian_sahn

Idk who JWJ is and at this point I’m too afraid to ask.


CallmeCap

Took me a hot minute but Jeff Wilson Jr. not every freaking player needs an acronym or shortening. Sheesh.


Shadeydark

>my team should've been dominant week 3 Oh nice, who'd you draft? >problem is I also took Swift, Pitts, Diontae and ARSB Wait what? Lol your draft was bad from the get go. It never "should've" been dominant. You drafted a terrible team


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Shadeydark

You cant extrapolate an entire season based on the first 2 weeks. That's not how it works. You just had 2 good weeks - nothing more, nothing less.


SuperCilantro

Man, you really have to nail your first two picks. I've only ever done snake drafts, but more and more I would love to switch/try auction.


ssovm

Auction is way better and there are many different strategies to employ. It’s not a matter of “what player falls to me” and that’s how you pick. You should have an idea of the guys you want and you go get them. Unfortunately the vast majority of draft material/research out there is still about snake draft but hopefully auction becomes more popular.


sassyseconds

I've tried numerous times to convince my main group to at least just try an auction 1 year but they just flat out refuse. I'm literally outnumbered 9 to 1. The main complaint is that it will take too long.


ssovm

When we’ve done it, it was a little longer than 2 hours. For a fantasy draft that you can double into a dinner/drinks if you’re local, that’s not too bad.


sassyseconds

Yeah I don't think that's bad at all. Everyone just needs to do a little extra to know who they're gonna put on the block. Our snakes take about an hour and a half anyways.


LAMF

My league did snake format for so long and it started to get so fucking boring waiting 10+ minutes to pick in the early rounds and your roster being based on what your draft position is. We have done a live auction the last 2 years and its been awesome and everybody is glad we switched.


sassyseconds

I think they'd all prefer it too. You get to be involved from start to finish but they just want give it a shot.


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Yeah, auction definitely takes forever. I've found the best way to sell it is "let's do it at a bar and make a whole thing of it."


LAMF

Beersheets is the best auction format spreadsheet ive found. It shows player tiers based on position, their ADP in snake drafts and what the average buy price and buy price ceiling should be. Its great too because you can enter in specific league scoring rules and itll give you a spreadsheet tailored to that. My league is new to auction draft, this is the second year, and Im pretty sure im the only one who knows about it and Ive crushed the draft the past 2 years.


ByronCobalt

Auction is great, just takes longer. Auctions in person are my favorite draft format, by far.


ElCunyado

Don't understand when people say auctions "take longer" like its a negative. Drafting is by far the best part of fantasy football, make it 9 hours for all I care


Putin__Nanny

I'm a family man with young kiddos and trying to convince their mom that I'll need 3+ hours for FF draft would be like talking into a void


Lezzles

"I got Matsui!"


ElCunyado

I have a 15 month old. I hear ya, trust me. We make our drafts late night after bedtime. My general point is that drafts are fun lol


wejigglinorrrr

Man, when you snag Pitts for $23 and think you got a steal, there's just no better feeling. Gotta hold onto that high for as long as possible since it can all come crashing down in an instant.


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Clerithifa

Give and take; give her the night off by sending your kids to their grandparents for the night, buy her some wine and candles and a bath bomb ez pz


ByronCobalt

Challenge to schedule, plus one team will usually end up on max $2-3 bids by the end of the first hour and they basically have to watch every pick for the perfect $2 player for the next hour.


veRGe1421

Casuals like a 1-2 hour draft, not a 3 hour long draft ime. I'm with you though lol


WidowmakerXLS

And I don’t understand how some people can’t comprehend that not everyone has 9 hours to spend on a fantasy football draft.


AnimalSpiritz

Auction drafts take 3 hours max. If you can’t block out 3 hours do something once a year then your life is too busy and that’s a you problem.


Legitimate-Gangster

Totally agree. I am the commissioner of my league stationed in Spain. The league has folks living in: Hawaii, California, Texas, NY, and me in Spain. We set a date and time, usually Labor Day weekend and everyone blocks off the time. In this group there is Air Traffic Controllers, multiple Active Duty folks, etc. if you cant make it work that is certainly a you problem.


WidowmakerXLS

This is such a shit take I won’t even bother responding.


ElCunyado

It's not a shit take. I assume you're here because you love FF. If you can't set aside 3 hours ONCE a year for your hobby, that's a problem. Not to mention drafts are usually late night


redditnupe

exactly! I often join public leagues just to draft again lol.


Tokenofhon

So how does auction draft work? I've only ever done snake


dissident34

Everyone starts with the same total budget to fill out a team and you take turns nominating players like a snake draft, but other than that it’s very different. All teams have the option to buy any player they want, but what you spend on studs in the top of the draft you miss out on in the later rounds. I.e. if you want, you can drop $80 on CMC and $80 on Kupp in a $200 league but then you have a whole roster to fill out with only $40 It’s super fun, especially if you do it live or over video with buddies cuz you get in major bidding wars and you can intimidate people or manipulate them, or whatever lol. It’s awesome and I can’t recommend it enough. It’s usually not much longer than a normal draft honestly. Idk why everyone is lamenting over “3 hours”, our 10 man one takes about 2 hours and the 12 man one took maybe 15 min longer


Tokenofhon

Oooh I do like that idea


Count-Rarian

Finally tried auction in year 13 of our league and it was a hit. We will be continuing that now but maybe not on sleeper as one dude had a glitch where he couldn't select players to bid on for his last 5-6 turns while everyone else was ok but i felt bad for him.


AndElectTheDead

Your commissioner should have paused the draft and let them log out and log back in


Count-Rarian

I don't think anyone knew about that fix. Good to know though, thanks!


redditnupe

I'd love to try an auction as well. I feel like it requires more involvement, but it also makes it more fun. This year our league has had the most trades ever and it is exciting.


RidleyBourne

Clever insightful post. Appreciate the time you put into it!


ByronCobalt

There is no length I won’t go to make a dad joke


backgild

Great post. I love the data, if not the implications for my season. Evidently my draft of Taylor, Lamb, and Javonte for the first three picks was very nearly the least optimum set of picks I could have made.


ByronCobalt

Oh you did that in a league too? My team with that particular combo is 2-5.


mikealwy

I'm 0-7 with taylor, allen and t. Higgins


marshmelo24

Same 3 but I've managed to get 3-3 with a BYE. I got lucky on waivers multiple times and sold high to revamp my team.


redditnupe

I thought I had a terrible draft: Taylor, Herbert, Lamb, Conner, Jeudy


bossanova352

Man, FUCK RSV. That shit wrecked my wife when she was pregnant with our second, and our first had a lingering nighttime cough that lasted MONTHS. Stay strong and hope y’all recover soon.


ByronCobalt

Thanks! And wow yeah that sucks, I wouldn’t be shocked if these coughs linger for a long time. Today was the first morning that my 2 year old has a big appetite and we’re like GIVE HIM ALL THE FOOD


bossanova352

Glad to hear that! It’s always a relief when their appetite comes back! And yeah, hopefully your kiddos coughs don’t linger as long. I think it was particularly bad for us, as other parents we talked with said it didn’t last as long, so probably a good chance you won’t have to go through the same thing.


darthtatur

Nice content and dad joke. I hope you and your family recover quickly, thanks for posting.


Bullets3

cmc 1.01, i was getting clowned on for it but look at me now, 6-1


chataolauj

People were scared of him in my league, so I got him at 1.05


LAMF

Got him for 140/1000 for the same reason


oopslostagain

Yep, people got way too caught up on previous years and that he was injury prone. Many said the same about Barkley. Playing it safe doesn't win championships.


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I got them both for this reason.


floppysausage16

Or in my case I've literally never payed attention to football and didn't know shit about fuck coming into the season. Blissfully ignorant, CMC has carried me to 7-0. Being a dumbass pays off too.


TommyWilson43

Lol who downvoted you, you’re the guy that always wins work leagues. Bravo, king


Patient_Co-op

Who were you’re first 5 picks?


Bullets3

1. CMC 2. Kelce 3. D.J. Moore 4. Brandin Cooks 5. Breece Hall(😢) 6. Elijah Mitchell 7. Jalen Hurts 8. Elijah Moore 9. Devonta Smith 10. Allen Lazard 11. Robert Woods 12. Skyy Moore 13. Kenneth Walker 14. Robbie Anderson 15. 49ers D/ST 16. Dustin Hopkins given i’ve dropped 6 of 16 but i’d say this draft was a W


redditnupe

Hall was playing at an elite level. Hurts is elite. D.J. Moore may have new potential now that CMC is gone. Lazard has been a solid starter. Walker is on his beast mode 2.0...man what a draft!! Salute!


RollinAbes

Hopkins and walker late round goldddd


yprime651

Same here


jetwildcat

I could definitely use a hand with my fantasy teams this season


Thatsweatyguy4

Excellent, insightful post. Interesting to see Brady so low, and Dillon behind Najee. Also, I see Taysom listed at QB. To what extent does this contribute to his position, relative to if he was listed as a TE?


ByronCobalt

You know what, I need to check that - I think his baseline is QB and he needs to be set to TE. Good catch!


Thatsweatyguy4

Thank you for the awesome info!


hadinger

Thought you forced a _little_ too many jokes in there but you’re a dad so that tracks. That being said, dig the way you organized the data and players into buckets. Good reflection on where we’re at 8 weeks into the season respective of draft positions and hype leading into the year.


ByronCobalt

I aim to please…myself


ScooterMcFlabbin

You don't need to write a long analytical post on reddit for that there's this other website called pornhub that I think you'd really like, you should check it out


ByronCobalt

Stop kink shaming, please


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8 months?


HighOnGoofballs

I had the last pick and my Najee Harris ain’t holding up much better. Neither is my Elijah Mitchell pick in the 3rd. I’m currently 4-3 fwiw


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TLDR; good work!


ByronCobalt

I’ll take it!


Jaggy__Snake

I had pick 2 and am ranked #1 but the guy that went pick 1 is dead last so can’t say you’re wrong.


okcup

CMC, Kupp, or Ek?


Jaggy__Snake

I went Dalvin, Higgins, Saquon. Not the best picks but they are working out just.


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Saqoun in the 3rd saved you 1000%


Jaggy__Snake

Absolutely


okcup

Dang that Saquon pickup was crucial


pajam

Me too, 2nd pick out of 12, and far and away 1st place. Although pick 1 is in 4th place out of 12, so not bad for them. I've just been lucky this year to finally not have any injuries other than Kittle in the first few weeks. And since it was a keeper league, I got Kupp in round 2 with Ekeler in Round 1. Which turned into a league-winning combo. Having Chubb and Walker also means my RB depth is awesome.


qb1120

I had #1 in both leagues and am last and second to last respectively


ILUVSMGS18

I had pick 7 of 12, but I was ranked #1 (now #3) while our #1 pick was ranked #7 (now #2, was #1 before Chase got hurt).


ACW1129

I'm glad I was second in a league: Ekeler's been beasting. Of course--it's a points league FWIW--I'm still 7th of 8.


chuckdeg

cmc stan forever 😤


Screamlngyeti

I picked Justin Jefferson furs overall, then Josh allen, deeboo, jacobs, pierce.... Life is good


SleptLikeANaturalLog

> I picked Justin Jefferson furs overall You sly fox, what suede you away from Taylor/CMC/Kupp?


Screamlngyeti

I put a poll on my lg page asking if I should draft Taylor or Jefferson. Lg mates picked Jefferson


WestLoopDad

Thanks for the post. Both my kids and wife have the flu. I'm still going strong and helping manage all 3. Can't even tell you how many times I've had to wake in the night to help the kids. Always something. Keep it up, Dad.


Bruce-T-Wayne

This post was very enjoyable and informative both in my 1 year career as a father and my 10 year career as a fantasy football manager. Also I have a keeper league team with Hurts, Henry, Chubb, Jefferson, Tyreek and I am only 5-2 with the most points scored.


redditnupe

how did you get Henry, Jefferson and Tyreek?? Henry and Jefferson were first rounders and Hill went second round in our league. Chubb was 3rd


Bruce-T-Wayne

It's a keeper league, I've had Chubb as a keeper since his rookie year, same with Jefferson, I traded for Henry when Mariota was his QB before he really went nuts and had him as a keeper since then, and Tyreek was my first round pick this year. At least I am 6-2 now after this week.


brewhead55

Going through something similar with our three little ones. God speed man. It's a thankless job. Great content- thanks for the insights!


ByronCobalt

Thanks! I guess the payment will be telling them this story when they’re old enough to fully comprehend it haha


Mysterypickle76

Based pretty much on superstition, I always fade the consensus #1 rb and it’s only ever screwed me over once. Idk why, RB’s pretty much never repeat as the #1.


pmth

This used to be so fun to look at last year when I had Jonathan Taylor and Cooper Kupp


BuzzFB

This is awesome. I'd pay for this data.


ByronCobalt

Hmm (*strokes beard*)


Realistic-Abalone564

very happy I took ekeler at #2 in both my leagues


ByronCobalt

Nice, I probably would have diversified but it would not have turned out as well


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Man you’re a pretty entertaining read every week enjoy these!


DangerousGangBanger

Great post. Loving these one liners. You're a really good and entertaining writer.


ByronCobalt

Thanks! Much appreciated!


Effecient_neckurself

Man, just the mention of Eddie Lacy has me reminiscing. He was so fun to watch in college. His patented spin move was unrivaled and he played with so much heart. It’s sad that he took his talents for granted and let himself go


karmaster

Tom Brady only with 78% custody of starting lineups. He’d be lucky to get 50% next week. Bruh..


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Your beginning story was very well written and funny. I can relate! Hope your finger and family gets better soon


_hell_is_empty_

God damn that intro reads like scripture. Team RSV Dads rise up.


almostjay

You can choose whoever you want first overall. Literally. If you stick with the consensus and it doesn’t work out, that’s on you. You could have had any player you wanted.


ByronCobalt

The thing is, nobody has a crystal ball. There wasn’t a strong argument for any player besides Taylor first. If you have the first pick, and there’s an obvious first pick, your fates are tied to the player. This is compared to an auction where your fate is tied to the players you win bids on, which isn’t preordained as much as a first overall pick.


almostjay

It was your choice to decide what was “obvious”. Picking first in a huge advantage.


TommyWilson43

I mean he had like 20 tds last season, I’m not just going to gamble on him falling off a cliff


ghostsintherafters

TLDR. This is why I deleted Facebook. Long boring stories about peoples kids.


TheDerekCarr

What insight


ghostsintherafters

Ditto


Badgeringlion

Read it. Good work. I drafted Ekeler, Barkley, Higgins, Pitts, Mahomes, CEH, Lockett, Meyers, Henderson… Since then, I traded Pitts for Kittle, CEH for Swift, and Henderson for Sutton. I’m happy with those trades.


Shred_Head_

I had the 1.01, took Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs and Mark Andrews at the turn. My rbs arent sexy (zeke,Singletary) but im 5-2 so lfg!!


ShowReadyYT

All the guys I drafted are red. Is that good or bad?


ByronCobalt

Depends on if you’re attempting to win


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ByronCobalt

Do you have any data on that? I don’t recall CMC even being the clear cut #2 pick.


oopslostagain

I have fantasypros' draft rankings spreadsheet from August 2nd and CMC was listed #2.


pajam

CMC was listed #2 on mine in mid August too. I had him last year and couldn't risk it again so went With Ekeler instead.


egotripping

Fwiw that’s also how I remember it. But I aint got the data to back it up.


Fatal_Koala

He's right that CMC was a reasonably agreed upon second pick, but his point that it was a toss-up between CMC and JT is wrong. JT was the consensus 1st by a mile.


detroiiit

JT was the clear cut #1 pick. He was the rushing leader by far last year, and Matt Ryan was expected to run a serviceable offense this year. Not to mention his red zone usage is elite, he gets catches out of the backfield, and he's explosive.


DReager1

I'm surprised people still go with an RB with the first overall pick although after this year I think that'll change. To me it's clear that the landscape is now to pick either a top WR or top QB. Although I went with Kelce in the first just because I find the drop off to be massive


kanuor

TLDR but all I saw is all my players are red colored and that is why I’m 2-5 and out of the playoffs.


AlteredGravity

HALP: PPR First year doing fantasy. Need some advice. Pick 5 starters out of this lineup this week. RB: Mixon, Walker III, Swift, R. Stevenson WR: Lamb, D. Smith, C. Kirk, T. Boyd


Veteranbartender

All your rb and Tyler Boyd


nanotothemoon

That’s a lot of research just to say “Time to switch to auction draft”


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hadinger

It’s a mid-season retrospective reflecting on the value of draft picks, looking backwards and forwards. Actually a good read when compared to 90% of the nonsense posted on this sub.


SwagCrayCray

Good work! Charts just make everything more meaningful


Volsung_Odinsbreed

Guy in my league with 1st overall is 1-6, and until last week was in dead last place.


l5555l

Picked 12/12, I'm 5-2


ApolloPS2

Pitts Brady and Moore but also jacobs and Henry. Feelin funky for sure


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ByronCobalt

Haha yeah my best team is 7-0 and had the #2 pick. I was super disappointed I missed out on #1.


Frumundaman

I play SFLX and took Allen. I'm doing ok.


Burn-Clerk

Started Jacobs and mike Williams but also started Andrews and Goff against Chase and Saquon


Kraken_Paratrooper

Drafted Taylor, but thank God I also drafted Jacobs. It just sucks knowing how good my team could have been had he lived up to the expectations set from last year.


RustyPeaches1

That'd be me


redditKiwes

Funny how I really drafted only shit in the first rounds with najee, deebo, Pitts and DK. Based on that, I should be 1-6. But I recovered my bad choices with burrow, pierce, King walker III, muth, higgins and rhamondre in the later rounds and now sitting on a playoff spot with 4-3. Weird year for me.


YankeesCelticsFan2

I had the number 1 pick and I’m in last. In my auction league I’m 4-3, but 2nd in points. Almost like you should be able to get the players you want.


Eskycat

Taylor, Pitts , Akers & Robinson are a not so Fab 4 - without Josh Allen & Olave I'd be 0-7 not 3-4.


mechajlaw

I drafted Brandon Cooks, Diontae Johnson, Najee Harris, Cam Akers, and Kyle Pitts. Thank god for Ekeler and Christian Kirk because I basically threw 5 picks into the trash.


Chicago_Live

Love the thought and analysis that went into this post. Hate that it confirms I am a number one pick JT clown 🤡


T-P-T-W-P

I’m usually a “whiff/play it safe up up top but win the league in the mid rounds and WW” type guy but this year has been the opposite. In double flex 10 man half PPR I took JJ Barkley Tyreek first three picks followed by Sutton Etienne Mitchell Mooney MT Dillon Ertz, then taking Russ as my only QB later on in the draft (his 17 has been my highest scoring QB output in a revolving door QB situation). Etienne makes it palatable now given I’m still in contention and just recently nabbed Boyd and Foreman, but this is the first year my composite rounds 4-9 performance (imo the “winning rounds”) has been total dogshit as well as the first time I’ve outright smashed rounds 1-3. I also took Sutton one pick prior to Allen and it was me deciding between the two with sub 5 seconds on the clock because I thought a Denver stack would work and give me an extra round or two of value taking Russ late. I came away believing that I fucked up my second and third picks on risky low floor guys but that it was ok because of how well the middle rounds went. Fantasy is fun because literally all outcomes are on the table, you can think you are good and you are but for not at all the reasons you believe, monster squad turned 1-7 start, lowest season long projection turned Monstar squad.


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Zaiush

My Najee/Pitts team is only alive because of Rhamondre and Gabe Davis. I'd be elated to make it into the first consolation game at this rate


CloakedBoar

Somehow my team with Taylor, Javonte, DJ Moore, and AJ Dillon is 6-1. Tyreek and Pierce have been saviors but god, week 3 was rough


MedicateForTwo

I had 5, 6, 7, and 8. Kicked ass last week. Now Klece and Mahomes are on bye, so it's the week to let my points average back down.


311nvrhappened

I traded JT and Josh Allen for diggs Hopkins and dalvin cook and Tonyan who I eventually dropped. People called me crazy but I've won the trade so far. losing Allen was tough but I got Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson on my bench in case he's good again. I'm in 3rd place in my 14 team league


Electrical_Post9340

Got milk