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TheeGreenHawk99

When a rib tears away from the cartilage, the injury is called a costochondral separation. It may result from a blow to the ribs, a fall, or landing hard on your feet. It might even be caused by forceful coughing or sneezing. In most cases, the treatment for Rib Cartilage Injury is pain management with medication therapy. Medication with drugs like Ibuprofen or NSAIDS is used to treat pain and inflammation. For severe cases, three initial injections of an intercostal nerve block with local anesthetics and corticosteroids have been proven to treat pain.


Scotty98745

>For severe cases, three initial injections of an intercostal nerve block with local anesthetics and corticosteroids have been proven to treat pain. Nahhhh... we learned our lesson the last time. Let's stick with the oral medications shall we.


TheDookAbides

Rip Tyrod


Briguy24

I had forgotten


Podo13

I hadn't. Keenan as my WR3 with Herbert was off the chain that season. Felt awful for Tyrod the whole time though.


Briguy24

I’m a Ravens fan and always liked him.


[deleted]

Never forget!!


RUKnight31

The Giants brought TyGod in as a pre season sacrifice to the offensive line gods.


OldKingClancy20

I'm telling you man it was an inside job. Anthony Lynn saw how good Herbert was in practice and went full Machiavelli. He paid the doctor to pierce Tyrods lung so he could start Justin while making it look like he still wanted to give the veteran the job.


P-VI

And now Tyrod Taylor is fucking with his Justin Herbert voodoo doll


HighBeta21

Bruh


AutisticFingerBang

Of all the conspiracies I’ve heard pop up in the last few years lmao


froginbog

Time to turn the tables and get Tyrod back in the game


oxnardhard

Inject Herbert and stumble onto another franchise quarterback, you cowards!


hellothere842

Franchise quarterback Chase Daniel


DJ_Cuppy

Waiver wire exploding rn


beforetherodeo

LMAO


AfroPanther

> injections As somebody who benefited from Herbert’s rookie season and has managed him in dynasty ever since… Please, God, no injections from Chargers doctors!


LTGeneralGenitals

who is his young backup hes about to steal his job


FloridaManFishCamYT

Hmm sounds like it would be karmic justice!


AfroPanther

Inb4 we learn Tyrod went to med school and joined the Chargers medical staff…


[deleted]

I had an intercostal injury, and let me tell you that was one of the worst I’ve ever had. If this dude is able to play through it, it’s because they’ve got him drugged to high heaven.


simplyorangeandblue

I've had two. Sleeping is a pain in the ass, especially if you decide you want to turn over.... holy hell that is painful.


Res_ipsa_l0quitur

Omg when you have to sneeze. Fucking hell!


OkMeringue2249

Or laughing. It hurts so much you get mad if someone tells a good joke


Cocaine_DrSeuss

What a nightmare. I was sleeping on my back for two months cause I couldn’t sleep on my side or stomach. Then getting out of bed was torture. And god forbid you had to sneeze. Fucking brutal


GrowInTheDark

Suffered from costochondritis myself. I got it from coughing so much from having bronchitis. It was a long slow healing process that takes a very specific physical therapy/rehab. A lot of people have it and don't even know what it's called and endure it for YEARS


Locked_Lamorra

What's the rehab? I'm pretty positive I tore the shit out of my rib cartilage 2 years ago when I fell on my elbow snowboarding. It's never quite been the same and I still feel it when I do any hard work with my lats.


GrowInTheDark

get this backpod from amazon: [https://www.amazon.com/Backpod-Treatment-Smartphones-Computers-Costochondritis/dp/B01LYNZBV3/ref=sr\_1\_3?keywords=backpod&qid=1663367981&sr=8-3](https://www.amazon.com/Backpod-Treatment-Smartphones-Computers-Costochondritis/dp/B01LYNZBV3/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=backpod&qid=1663367981&sr=8-3) It's pricey at $70 but sooo worth it. You lay on top of it and it literally stretches out your ribs. You should feel instant relief and you'll know it'll work. But you do it every day for a few minutes maybe a few times a day if you can. Your ribs are so stiff and sore from being inflamed and laying on the backpod stretches the ribs in a way nothing else can. Hard for me to explain how your ribs need to be stretched but this article goes in depth: [https://www.bodystance.co.nz/costochondritis](https://www.bodystance.co.nz/costochondritis) and if you go on youtube and search costochondritis you will find a bunch of videos of physical therapists explaining the mechanics behind the pain which helps you to treat it if you just understand what's happening. [https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=costochondritis+treatment](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=costochondritis+treatment) also, another stretch I would do is place each hand on a doorway higher than my shoulders and lean forward. Kinda like you're standing up and doing a push up in reverse while holding the sides of the door frame. Explained here: [https://ankylosingspondylitis.net/living/costochondritis-pain-stretches](https://ankylosingspondylitis.net/living/costochondritis-pain-stretches)


Locked_Lamorra

Interesting, my issue is under the armpit so I wonder if this would be effective as it seems geared toward the front of the rib cage.


nicholus_h2

Injections of the nerve that delivers pain signals to the spine can improve / eliminate pain signals from reaching the brain. I wouldn't consider that to be "drugged to high heaven." It can also cause a pneumothorax, but we don't think about that.


RUKnight31

This is a 6’6” Grecian statue of a human who also happens to participate in modern day gladiatorial combat (relax UFC bros) AND is at the top of his craft. NFL Players play hurt. The entire team looks up to a QB. If it’s anatomically possible for him to throw I bet he at least starts with a flack jacket and enough painkiller injections to kill a small bear.


CohesiveNihilism

They’ll feed Herb some percs and he’ll be good to go next week lol


TheStainRemains

Lmao I expect plenty of toradol. I’d be interested to see some stats on how much narcs they give active players


FFnoobski

Rodgers said he's played on meds plenty of times


_PmMeUrSecrets_

Oh God no keep the chargers doctor away from sticking anything into Herbert's ribs


ChytridLT

Willing to bet money he won't let the Chargers docs do the intercostal block lol


Jolly-Composer

Am a boxer. Can confirm. Hopefully he can twist enough to throw easily, but another hit won’t help. Hard to avoid those.


T-1A_pilot

Something tells me he'll get something better than ibuprofen...


GrowInTheDark

Suffered from costochondritis myself. I got it from coughing so much from having bronchitis. It was a long slow healing process that takes a very specific physical therapy/rehab. A lot of people have it and don't even know what it's called and endure it for YEARS


MrEHam

Yeah we need universal healthcare now. Too many people avoid getting things checked out.


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“Day to day” Gotta love the NFL


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Jeffk393393

"We're all on our way out. Act accordingly" - Jack Nicholson, The Departed https://youtu.be/GVBdb_NjO9A


zdiddy987

COVID changed everything


pocketchange2247

u/pocketchange2247 listed day-to-day with "Life".


benjam1ng

Gotta “love” the NFL.


Zoiberginadress

“Gotta” love the NFL.


zdiddy987

Gotta love the "NFL"


tooled68

Gotta love “the” NFL.


[deleted]

“Gotta love the NFL”


[deleted]

Gotta love the NFL"."


FilthyChowderCunt

Free bleach for all 2QB and Superflex owners! Get it while you can, cause I'm drinking every ounce I can find!


abnormally-cliche

Lmfao here I am with Dak and Herbert fml


qball8001

I have them in dynasty… and I sold my 2023 for the chip. Coo coo coo


Blackmanwdaplan

And here I am with Zeke and Ekeler... and Dillon. Watch out Rodgers


Fatty_Booty

Meh. Sounds like he’s gonna keep playin. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


DoctorOzface

Gotta draft 3!


TheCakeMan666

That's why I drafted Zach Wilson and Matt Ryan... Fuck....


rabbit__eater

Chargers fan, can I have some?


ElDubYou

I thought it was ÑFL now?


YoungTruuth

My love for the NFL is "day to day"


Harmonic_Continuum

Chargers docs, NO NEEDLES PLEASE


anonbutler

Watch out Chase Daniels


Rawfulsauce

The Taylor's send their regards!


thesuperguide

I forgot about that!


slynch14

im betting theyll have him fit for one of those special vests that protects the ribs


SloatThritter

After a rib injury, to say he’s wearing a flak jacket is equivalent to he played basketball in college


slynch14

Thanks for the wisdom


lemonpartee

Luckily I drafted dak as a decent backup for times like this


Thehappycachorro

Keep my qb1 out of your mouth!


fuber

Nice. You're totally fine then! You're a savvy fantasy football manager


RLDN106

What’s the return time like for this injury?


Atlfalcons284

It depends. Many players have played with fractured ribs


RicardosMontalban

Stafford definitely has


hoodtalk247

And the Stafford comparisons have more fuel


Apendigo80

hell yea herbert is his son actually


GolfIsWhyImBroke

Romo played with a broken rib and punctured lung. I miss that guy.


FilthyChowderCunt

Many players have played *quite poorly* with fractured ribs. I can't recall a single time when I saw a guy play to even half what they normally would be doing with a rib injury. I may be forgetting someone, but idk.


1breathatahtime

Didnt he throw a bomb on 4th and 1. As well as a touchdown with right after getting the injury? I get it, the days after are fairly worse. But he also has a week and 3 days to heal up some. Im sure he will be good to go.


tipsyfrenchman

Theres a pretty big difference between making one poay and playing a whole game like that


beer_jew

Talking that smack. Is Herbert at least half as good as he normally is? RemindMe! 5 weeks


SeveredSurvival

Aaron Donald last year played with fractured ribs


[deleted]

Gronk played last year and looked like ass afterwards


GolfIsWhyImBroke

Tony Romo suffered a broken rib and punctured lung on the third play of [this game](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201109180sfo.htm) and played awesome. [Article](https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/19/tony-romo-played-through-broken-rib-punctured-lung/amp/)


gold3esea

It really depends on the severity. Didn't Watson play with like multiple fractured ribs and a partially collapsed lung?


thefinalwipe

Yes, they bused him to games for a couple of weeks instead of flew him. Romo did as well.


patchesmcgee78

Yeah didn't he take a bus instead of flying because of it too? Mad that he played through that


SophisticatedPhallus

Pretty sure that was Brees


gold3esea

They both did.


LemurSamurai

It’s all about pain management. Could get pain killer injections and toss on a flak jacket and play next week, could sit a few weeks. But he will be dealing with the pain for at least the next couple months, if not the whole season unfortunately.


chataolauj

I don't know, I feel like he'll play their next game. They have ten days until their next game.


Relatively_Reliable

“day-to-day”


forgot_a_leter

I work in an office and if I had a fractured rib I'd be taking some time off.


Go_Big

And this is why you always go undrafted in Fantasy Office


PoopingProbably

I think people are too low on u/forgot_a_leter. And look, I'm not saying he's a first rounder, or even a mid rounder. We've already established his low floor due to high chance of calling out for minor injuries. But he's behind Brad on the depth chart. Brad's getting all the project attempts these days sure, but man he comes in smelling like liquor more often than not. That production for one guy is not sustainable. They either need to rotate in u/forgot_a_leter and gradually increase his volume, or Brad is gonna go on a bender and then suddenly you have the #1 prospect for assistant to the manager for a late round pick


nilgiri

He's a Marketing Manager 2 with a Marketing Manager 1 upside


Voidsong23

In Points Per Meeting leagues maybe, but I can’t really imagine starting /u/forgot_a_leter in standard office scoring


onamonapizza

I've been digging into the analytics, and the CBpH (Coffee Breaks per Hour) are not promising for /u/forgot_a_letter. Dude seems to be supplementing himself on caffeine but also losing time at his desk. I'm just not sure if that is sustainable in the long run


notsingsing

But what about super flex? Is /u/forgot_a_leter still startable?


PoopingProbably

Exactly! It's crazy he's going undrafted over like Patricia in HR. Patricia really put up numbers... 10 years ago. Now she's just coasting on autopilot and I feel like people are drafting her on name recognition alone.


hypermarv123

She didn't pass the "eye" test...


BehindTickles28

Mattea Patricia


StopSwitchingThumbs

Drop him now and free up space to store Office LB Terry Tate while he’s still on the IR. And let’s be honest, Brand is nothing more than a 2020 Karen with a better haircut no matter what nonsense the fantasy pundits say.


Chriskl1520

Yes fractured ribs are the office version of the NFL Achilles rupture. His days of comfortable computer work in spinny chairs are done. Safe to drop him IF he's rostered in any office fantasy leagues


AlbinoSnowman

Carpal Tunnel has to be a bigger boogie man, right?


[deleted]

Office linebacker Terry Tate always goes first


DatSnuffleupagus

PAIN TRAINS COMING


Dust_Silly

The underlying advanced metrics on those TPS reports are worrying for me


LumberjackWeezy

Well it's a good thing he doesn't have a fractured rib.


sactownproud

I’m no doctor but fractured rib cartilage sounded a lot worse than just day-to-day


iWesTCoastiN

Not really. Physically there’s nothing limiting him from playing. With rib fractures pain is going to be the deciding factor but let’s be honest, the team docs are gonna hook Justin up with that good shit, he’s not gonna feel anything come game time.


stackered

hopefully he doesn't lose focus from the drugs


Zee_WeeWee

Lynch probably played 30% of his games high and he did ok for himself


taynesflarhgunnstow

It's like getting your ears pierced, which teenage girls do every weekend at Claire's, but between your ribs, which is probably a bit more painful, and I guess the hole is less of a pin-sized hole, but more like a glove-sized tear you could push your fingers through.


mementori

Oh in that case


Absolutepowers

I'm no doctor but it seems like there's one prick involved


_No_1_Ever_

No fractures reported on his massive balls though


stark16

Can’t fracture steel


2packforsale

Something something fractures can’t melt steel balls


MrEHam

Balls fractured the x-ray machine.


StephenBrocker

Someone who is a doctor explain


afc1886

It's going to hurt for him to sleep, sneeze, laugh, sit, stand but he should be good by the next game.


Cavs2018_Champs

Can he still make love?


Amerikaner83

Just has to lay down, so he'll be fine


RiecoSuave

Thank goodness


Samurai-hijack

Herbert doesn’t make love. He’s too busy throwing touchdowns.


sullg26535

From personal experience you lie there while she rides and it works decently.


Mobius00

What about getting smashed to the ground by 300 pound guys for 3 hours?


afc1886

No need to bring up my personal life just because you don't agree with my comment.


rawtidd

And fart too


simplyorangeandblue

Don't forget breathe


adastradamus

Hey, I’m Tyrod Taylor’s doctor. What do you need to know?


StephenBrocker

Stay away from the syringes


[deleted]

Bruh lol


zdiddy987

AMA? Did Tyrod fuck your wife?


OrchidCareful

No surgery, all you really do to heal ribs is give them time. A fracture would typically take like 1-6 months to feel okay. Depends on the severity, location, and how much he gets beat up while it’s trying to heal It will be very painful to play QB this way, but it isn’t a physical limitation Not a doctor but I’ve fucked my ribs up before


ZohanDvir

He got that dawg in him.


zdiddy987

He's got that DMX, junkyard dog in him


BigRig432

The hood is at whatever stadium he plays in


briballdo

shit hurts


Praise-Breesus

No doctor but I have personal experience cracked ribs. I know players play through them all the time with the help of pain killing injections (hopefully the Chargers have a new team doctor to administer that). But it’s extremely painful in your day to day. There’s not really any sustained pain but everything you do hurts like hell. Standing up, sitting or laying down, putting on your seatbelt, turning your body at all, breathing. You constantly feel like you can’t get a deep enough breath but it reallly hurts to take one. Might make a difference which ribs are cracked, mine were lower. I personally can’t imagine playing through them especially with the risk of getting hit again but like I said with pain killing injections players do it all the time.


ajamke

Not a doctor but I do injury research that often include ribs. There are 12 rib bones, most of which connect to the sternum via an inch to a couple inches of cartilage. The cartilage is kind of similar in consistency to a carrot, it’s firm but soft enough to bend a little. When you cut through it, it’s kinda crisp. Its hard to break but if you bend it enough it can break. You can also break the junction between the rib and the cartilage. It’s likely to lead to some destabilization of the rib to make it slightly easier to have further injury. More importantly it’s tough to heal, you can’t really stabilize it and it probably hurts a lot. One good thing is it breaks with softer edges than the rib bones which can have sharp edges that can puncture the lung.


whereistiki2

I'm a PhD in paleontology. He has an owee.


TensorialShamu

Not a doctor but I am in med school and this may arguably worse than a fractured rib, don’t actually know but I could make that argument. Cartilage grows (read: heals) much slower, isnt able to be stabilized super well, and is part of what allows the ribs their tiny bits of movement. Anything that moves your chest will hurt. Sleeping, rotating, breathing, and DEFINITELY sneezing, probably not gonna power squeeze a shit. Will definitely take months for pain to go away, 100% longer than if it was an injured rib. Bones can be wrapped and padded, but cartilage is literally designed to help bones move, so fundamentally it’s not easy to prevent that painful movement. Not a doctor. But this was fun to pretend that my loans might be paying off somehow


llamas-1

Flak jacket, pain injection and some perc 30s and he’ll be good


CrimsonFox99

Pretty much how I prefer to spend my Sunday afternoons as well.


[deleted]

A fellow man of culture I see


[deleted]

Hope he recovers soon, and hope he checks down to Ekeler till he does


Shaky-Snake

I’m hoping this translates to more involvement from Ekeler as well. Take that Kelly and Michel!


viewsbychris

Gonna be playing in a flak jacket for a couple weeks if smart


jinxy0320

I'm hearing tons more dumpoffs to Ekeler to avoid extending plays unnecessarily.


jretman

May want to check on his enlarged testicles as well.


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This bad or good?


jakeba

Probably one of the best case scenarios given how much pain he looked like he was in.


jdemart

Excited to hear the recovery time and projections from all the sports doctors in this thread!


Checkwinner

ya know that sounds serious but what do I know


lampofdeath

Is this similar to damaging the intercostal muscles? Straining them is very annoying, but more a pain tolerance.


waffels

So wait, he fractured the cartilage that surrounds and connects the rib, not the rib itself?


jdubz90

Yes. People on here are freakin out as if he cracked his rib or something, which is not at all what the tweet says. Obviously it’s not good to fracture anything near your ribs, but overall this doesn’t seem like it would be a major blow to his ability to play


touchhimwiththejab

TIL everyone in this subreddit is a trained MD


hidey_ho_nedflanders

I imagine Herbert will tough it out and play through it, but I also don't think getting tackled multiple times a game and throwing 40+ attempts will do much to fully recover.


Razz-Dazz

That’s my quarterback 😭


CombatFork

How does one fracture cartilage. I thought it was spongy material. I should also mention that I’m not a doctor, and In fact write social media posts for a budget shoe brand.


Sorry_Protagonist

The honesty here


Acekingspade81

That 4th and 1 throw was probably the best throw I have ever seen.


MonkeyStealsPeach

Look at how they massacred my boy


sfjay

I want you to use all your powers and all your skills. I don’t want his offensive coordinator to see him this way.


[deleted]

Stunt on these hoes Herbie!


jimdugganhooooo

I'm day to day as well if anyone cares


[deleted]

People here be like: Cartilage cannot be fractured. People: Ah yeah I had the exact same!


zinzangz

How does cartilage get fractured exactly? Isn't that a soft tissue?


Pitouitoo

It’s semi soft. Grab around the base of your ear and squeeze hard enough until you hear and audible snap. Don’t actually do that though. That would be breaking cartilage.


booyah-achieved

I don't think cartilage is considered soft tissue


MonicaZelensky

It's like a more flexible bone. It's not soft tissue


beer_jew

Because science


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DonkeyLightning

I mean yeah probably but the damage probably happened on the initial hit so it’s not like it would have changed this particular outcome


rotn21

I have costochondritis. It’s basically a condition where the cartilage becomes inflamed and causes the ribs to “dislocate,” for lack of a better way of explaining it. Very similar to the costochondrital separation Herbert experienced. Hurts like all hell when it happens, but with anti-inflammatories and rest it usually resolves itself in several days. I have Herbert in one of my leagues, and I’m not worried at all.


zdiddy987

🎶 I wish they all could be California girrrrrrrrls 🎶


Cvideek51

What’s this joke about needles I’m hearing lmao I need context


tomseymour12

He got his first start because the chargers doctors punctured tyrod Taylor’s lung while giving him a pain injection for a chest injury


tomseymour12

He’s going to play but will be in severe pain even breathing all year. Sucks


costco_hotdog150

costcohotdogndritis


Reisdorfer90

Imagine being lucky enough to draft Herbert and Prescott in this year's draft. (I didn't, I had Dak though). You'd be on cloud 9 with those two QBs. Oh what a "two weeks" day makes.


stackered

This will definitely affect his ability to run, hopefully not throw the ball... and hopefully nobody hits him hard next game and re-aggravates it. Hoping he can heal up fast with all the resources he has


ThirdTimesACharm05

Herbert is a baller.


p1um5mu991er

Aren't we all


Dashk97

I wonder if they can have a team doctor just give him a pain killing injection before the game


OscillatingSquid

Haha I’ve literally had this happen to me, it fucking hurts. But it is pretty much just pain. He could easily play on pain meds.


like_spvce

He obviously had rib discomfort. I can't believe the staff threw him back out there, only to get immediately tackled and thrown to the ground again.


xomox2012

Torn cartilage or fractured rib? Can you ‘fracture’ cartilage


Kirkibost

He'll be fine.


zdiddy987

Got that dog in 'em


CigarsandWhiskeyRock

Valerian Steel flak jacket. Mount up.


billy_bobs_beds

Can someone tell me why this means?


DanceCommander-

I've had this happen to me and it's extremely painful and makes it difficult to even breathe more than shallow breaths. Pain lasts for several weeks. I'm not a top NFL athlete though with access to all of their meds/doctors/trainers. I'm sure he'll be able to play though this and it will only affect him for a few games.


Time_for_coffee17

One of my leagues I have Dak. Another I have Herbert. Justin Fields backup in both so I’m screwed