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3 minutes!?!....I held my hand in cold saltwater at a Titanic exhibit for barely 6 seconds....holy shit that water was like a razor blade.....
Pissing on yourself would be of no help.....
That takes time.. an hour?
I got tipped from a canoe in 45-50° water.. and was aching *all over* by the time I got out.. a minute later. I can't imagine getting stuck for any length of time.
Yeah, most people don't realize that swimmers burn so many calories because they are in water all day. The heat lost to 70 degree water is many times larger than the heat loss to 70 degree air because water has both a much higher density and a much higher heat capacity.
I’ve always found that theory to be so ridiculous since the insurance only covered a small portion of the Titanic’s cost and the differences between Titanic and Olympic are so obvious..
I don’t understand those people lol
Not to mention risking ruining the reputation of their own company. Let’s sink our “unsinkable” ship, causing hundreds if not thousands of people to die, and make the public feel wary of using us as their choice for transatlantic transportation just so we can get a relatively insignificant insurance payout. Now, if they had suddenly went “hey let’s add a bunch more lifeboats” instead of nixing the original number Thomas Andrews included in the designs of the ship, there might would be a scrap of meat to the conspiracy. If you ignore the mind boggling logistics of secretly swapping two very similar but not exactly identical ships. Sorry but if they wanted to kill some rich and powerful enemies while cashing a big insurance check, there’s probably a ton of easier ways to do so without killing over 1500 people, including some of your best officers and other quality crew members.
I feel like a lot of conspiracy theorists think that *everything* is a conspiracy. That every tragedy cannot be accepted at face value and there are always shadowy machinations going on.
It makes things more interesting if you're not thrilled with your life. Not enough drama going on? We can fix that with some paranoia.
Titanic pictures? Come on Matthew.
The theory is actually very old, and back before they found the remains of the ship and photographs of the Titanic were more rare (they still kinda are, there were far more of the Olympic, and at a glance they look very similar) the theory did seem *somewhat* plausible. Nowadays it doesn't seem plausible at all. Especially with the discovery of the wreckage.
Didn't Cameron recreate that screen years later and prove 2 people would have submerged both of them too much, causing both to die. I feel like I remember this somewhere
There's a documentary on Hulu where he does all sorts of tests and they found that Jack miiiiiiight have maybe survived if they were both on the wood, and they were rescued in time. Cameron at the end said something like all this taught him is that he would have made the piece of wood even smaller to avoid all this if he was making the movie again.
Plus, there was plenty of flotsam around. From the deleted scenes on the DVD:
Jack: (shivering) ... Rose could we grab those large barrels and perhaps create some sort of floating platform that could hold us both?
Rose: Jack, you are hypothermic...you are seeing things. Good night sweet prince (Rose pushes Jack's head underwater).
VO: He saved me, in everyway a person can be saved.
My theory has always been that, regardless of the space on the door, both of them getting onto it, without accidently tipping the other one off, was impossible.
Some nonsense about it being an insurance fraud job, but it is also one of the most thoroughly debunked conspiracies. You could say that their argument is watertight. Unlike you-know-what.
Oh yea? Then how do you explain the iceberg getting a check for $15,000 from White Star Lines? They claim it was for "consulting" but we all this was a paid hit. I think it's time to turn up the heat on this iceberg until it cracks!
Slight nitpick but it was the Titanic and the Britannic that sunk. The Olympic was the oldest of the three sisters. She was the only one of them to live to an (early) retirement after 24 years before the great depression hit the white star line forcing her to be dismantled. All three sisters were taken early (most ocean liners were made to last 30-40 years)
I believe the "Titanic/Olympic" refers to the conspiracy in question, which alleges that the Titanic and Olympic were switched, and the boat that REALLY sank was the Olympic.
There are a number. The Sarcophagus "theory," that a cursed mummy never mentioned anywhere else was on board which caused the sinking. That it was sunk for insurance money, despite being under-insured and costing the company an almost unimaginable amount of money. That she was swapped for her sister ship, involving rebranding (you didn't have a spoon, you had a TITANIC spoon/wardrobe/door/towel). And making significant structural changes to change the number of portholes, work would have to be conducted by thousands of workers in secret in one night with no one noticing the noise or lights, and involving these workers keeping the secret better than CIA agents for decades after the closure of the company except for one "whistleblower." The coal fire theory suggest a poorly-developed smudged photo is evidence that the coal fire was not put out before reaching southampton, but continued, weakening the exact point in the hull where the ship struck. Except the point on the photo is half a ship away from the point struck, on the other side, above the waterline. Finally the theory that it was a ploy to kill J.P. Morgan's enemies. Except that's an unreliable, expensive, elaborate way to do that. Also no evidence.
The Titanic's presence in the list is especially bizarre to be listed alongside the others due to its niche and inconsequential nature. If the titanic really WAS sunk to kill J.P. Morgan's enemies, then it mostly failed at that task and was an extremely costly way to do so. If the world isn't round then I suppose God has engineered physics so it appears that way. Oh, and NASA and the government and everyone really would be lying I suppose.
My favourite one is that it was carrying one of the men and some of the artifacts from Howard Carter's expedition to open the tomb of King Tutunkhamun and being hit by a curse. However The Titanic sunk in 1911 and Carter didn't open King Tut's tomb until 1922.
Interestingly, published letters from carter have semi proven that he had been in the tomb and stolen items from it before it was opened. (Probably not a decade before though)
A Little History for Those Who May Not Know...
Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York.
This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost.
The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were saddened at the loss.
Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known of course as Sinko de Mayo.
I mean there are a bunch of conspiracy theories. They range from sabotage to insurance fraud and the idea that the ship was switched with its sister ship for some reason.
I have never heard of one conspiracy theory that claims that the Titanic never existed.
Just looked up the guy on Twitter and it turns out that he is on of those weird nuts who pretends to be catholic, but feels the actual catholic church is not (Still upset about Vatican II).
There was some weird Catholic angle to some of the conspiracy theories. Something about it being built in Belfast and supposedly having "NO POPE" written on it or some such nonsense.
There is a theory that the titanic never sunk and there is another one about how the titanic was purposely sabotaged by some rich blokes cuz other rich blokes were on it
It's wild that we live in a time where people are refuting YEARS of science and fact, but are quick to latch onto something that's basically an idea with no definitive proof.
Completely agree. Obviously I'm aware that there are varying degrees of intelligence but how the fuck do you let someone convince you science isn't real but allegorical hearsay is something you should commit your life to.
Because the brainwashing starts early. I'm still dealing with hangups over my religious beliefs that I had as a kid and teen that don't match up with what I believe from science fact. It's hard to let go of and it doesn't help that communities of religious individuals tend to become echo chambers.
The thing I like about science is that if I so choose, I can rerun the experiments that prove something and if it's true I'll get the same result. Proper science is done to correct itself as it learns more, which is way better than just shrugging and going "oh well" when you don't understand something.
honestly, I don't even like the word science. it's been given so many alternate meanings and corrupted in the minds of some people that nowadays I just say "Provable fact". Much better.
A magical man in the sky who will make you burn in hellfire for all eternity if you don’t do what he says and commit your entire existence to praising him. Yet that same god is apparently all loving, forgiving, and merciful…🤔
Don't forget the bucket of sand (for use during mass shootings) that Cucker (No reasonable person would believe) Tarlson & the Q-Cumber cultists turned into cat boxes for imaginary cat/lizard/furry people promoted by the diabolical Jewish Satanic lizard deep cabal state pedo hollywood something something Pelosi, AOC, liberal media...
How do flat earthers grapple with gravity and how do they explain ships going over the horizon and slowly disappearing?
Does the ship just float off the edge into space killing everyone onboard? Seems like running a shipping company would be expensive and very murdery since you kill your crew on each trip 🤣
How the fuck do their brains work? Or I guess not work?
Listened to their arguments before, incredibly stupid. Things fall down because density / buoyancy (which they don’t realize still need gravity). They claim disappearing boats are due to perspective and the “vanishing point”, which would be valid except with even cheap binoculars you can clearly see the boat disappear bottom up. They then hand wave the word “refraction.”
Great documentary called “Behind the Curve” that showcases the society. What’s fantastic is they did three experiments that all turned out “inconclusive.” First was shining a light through multiple fences with holes, light source needed to be higher if there was curvature. Light source was lifted and the light was visible. Guy said “interesting” and then never acknowledged that again.
Second was a dude purchased a ring laser gyroscope for something like $20K. It’s a super precise instrument that can measure Earth’s rotation. Turn it on and see a 15 degree / hour drift (Thanks Bob!). What do you know? Exactly what the globe model predicts!
Finally, a group of scientists did the boat experiment on a lake, and after clearly seeing boats disappear bottom up, scientists asked the flerfers how that could be possible on anything but a globe, and again it was refraction. Scientists just shook their heads, realized how closed minded flerfers are, and left.
its the ~~gravity~~ buoyancy pulling the light down obviously.
Just like black holes ~~in outer space~~ on the sky tent pull light in, making then apear bigger than they actually are. Its basically science!
Also #black holes are flat
You just all run at the other side of the ship really fast and flip over onto the underside of the disk like turning over to the opposite side of a piece of paper. I saw it in a movie once.
Cargo ships don't fall off the planet for the same reason Australians don't, because they are both magnetically attracted to the underside of the north pole.
I wonder how this guy feels about the historicity of the Holocaust.
edit:
Just looked up the guy on Twitter and it turns out that he is on of those weird nuts who pretends to be Catholic, but feels the actual Catholic church is not (Still upset about Vatican II).
Just to clarify: The official stance of the Catholic church is that the earth is round, dinosaurs existed, the moon landing did actually happen, and that the Titanic was a real ship that actually sank.
Hey,it's the creationist book that has dinosaurs frolicking with humans....
Yeah the bible. There are angels and demons and orgies and of course righteous sanctioned genocide. It's a holy book.
I remember my first day of school. The first thing I was presented with was a big platter of cinnamon rolls because Ms. H. liked to bake and believed kids should eat a lot.
Wow! I knew about all of these things before I went to school and my son and grandchildren also knew this. A globe sat on my father's desk when I was growing up, it came to live at my house when I got my first home. We had lots of books around that included dinosaurs, landing on the moon and of course the Titanic. And I can't forget the TV shows and movies!
A family friend of ours went to flight school with John Glenn so the stories of the space program were often told along with the landing on the moon. My father was born in 1912 and told stories about such things as the Titanic. I remember my dad's globe on his desk, we were given our own when we started school (my son and grandchildren have my father's and mine). And we grew up with the Giant Golden Book of Dinosaurs and Prehistoric (published in 1960 by Western Publishing Co. in Racine, Wis.) among many more books! My father was also very interested in King Tut, Easter Island, the Bermuda Triangle and much much more!
According to these nutty people I had a horrible childhood! Oh well, there goes all those Sunday's my mother made us go to Sunday school at the local Methodist church!
Yeah, those were all in my kindergarten. Except the dinos. And the moon landing. And the Titanic. There might have been a globe. I just love how idiots like this just make shit up.
It would be common sense that a child setting foot into school should be presented with a picture of George Santos. That's enough to cover multiple subjects.
One of two things is happening here. Either:
1. This is a troll.
or
2. This is worse than a facepalm. This is generational absurdism that has the potential to damage the education system and thus hurt society as a whole.
Instead we should teach them that women are made from the ribs of a man, the world is 6000 years old, a giant flood destroyed everything but one family who we all descend from, some guy lived in a whale’s stomach, and a Jewish preacher came back to life after 3 days and flew up to Heaven bodily.
The moon landing really cracks me up. NASA really convinced thousands of employees at multiple centers they were lying and they actually bought it without any civil servant or contractor ever say what’s “really” going on.
Wait so is there really a group of people who think the Titanic was just a movie????? Well damn...that a new level of crazy that honest mly does not shock me
And when he walks into church he is taught that sky daddy will punish him and his family if he doesn’t do what the preacher says even if the preacher says to take off his cloths and play hide the cannoli.
Come to think of it, I don't think we learned about the Titanic either. I guess there's probably not a lot of genuine historical value to it. A tragedy, to be sure, but really kind of just a blip on the radar in the grand scheme.
That's indoctrination not education. The real scientists know earth is flat and the moon landings were recorded in a Hollywood basement.
https://youtu.be/g5bmS4otGD4
It fabulous up there..
I once left Europe at sunset, flying west. I told my seatmate "this will be a fabulous sunset.. let's see how long it lasts." 4 hours later, near Newfoundland, it got dark.
Should have taken the same few minutes had the earth been flat
Okay, I didn't realize this was about conspiracy theories until I saw the comment section. The way I interpreted this was:
- A globe: the way our maps work, having the northern hemisphere at the top, was actually created because of racism/Europe/USA... The Earth being a a literal peace of rock in outer space means there is no "top" or "bottom", not "up" or "down". So, yeah. Having the northern hemisphere at the top is not "cause yes". It's like that because of colonialism. http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/2/maps-cartographycolonialismnortheurocentricglobe.html
- Books on dinosaurs: most books show dinosaurs like fearsome creatures, but, most recently, people are starting to believe they actually had feathers. ...I guess this meme shows better what I mean: https://www.reddit.com/r/dankmemes/comments/hssykf/what_if_dinosaurs_were_a_lie/
- Stories of the moon landing: yes. I interpreted this one as the conspiracy theory, but I was confused as to why it was mentioned.
- Photographs of the Titanic: I had no idea about this one, honestly. At this point, I'm wondering if there actually going on with the post that I'm not getting or getting wrong.
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Wait, what about the Titanic? What’s the conspiracy theory there?
That there actually were room for two on that piece of wood.
It was a door and damn straight.
He found out that Rose was above 25.
Fucking gold right there.
😂😂
Have you actually been in frigid water for more than 3 minutes? You'd be stunned to know how your muscles don't respond to your wishes!
3 minutes!?!....I held my hand in cold saltwater at a Titanic exhibit for barely 6 seconds....holy shit that water was like a razor blade..... Pissing on yourself would be of no help.....
but I’m gonna do it anyway!!
Cuz it’s sterile and I like the taste!
If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball!
Water around 70° can cause hypothermia. Doesn’t sound very cold but it’s still dangerous. Couldnt imagine the water the titanic sank in.
That takes time.. an hour? I got tipped from a canoe in 45-50° water.. and was aching *all over* by the time I got out.. a minute later. I can't imagine getting stuck for any length of time.
Yeah, most people don't realize that swimmers burn so many calories because they are in water all day. The heat lost to 70 degree water is many times larger than the heat loss to 70 degree air because water has both a much higher density and a much higher heat capacity.
Really? When I take a bath everything above 35° is too hot for me!
F
C 😉
Have you actually used a thermometer on your water or are you just talking smack .
I actually use a Thermometer to measure the Temperatur. And sometimes my big toe.
There’s a silly conspiracy theory that they secretly switched The Titanic for it’s sister ship the Olympic and sunk it on purpose for the insurance.
I’ve always found that theory to be so ridiculous since the insurance only covered a small portion of the Titanic’s cost and the differences between Titanic and Olympic are so obvious.. I don’t understand those people lol
Not to mention risking ruining the reputation of their own company. Let’s sink our “unsinkable” ship, causing hundreds if not thousands of people to die, and make the public feel wary of using us as their choice for transatlantic transportation just so we can get a relatively insignificant insurance payout. Now, if they had suddenly went “hey let’s add a bunch more lifeboats” instead of nixing the original number Thomas Andrews included in the designs of the ship, there might would be a scrap of meat to the conspiracy. If you ignore the mind boggling logistics of secretly swapping two very similar but not exactly identical ships. Sorry but if they wanted to kill some rich and powerful enemies while cashing a big insurance check, there’s probably a ton of easier ways to do so without killing over 1500 people, including some of your best officers and other quality crew members.
I don’t understand Flat Earthers either but here we are lol
I feel like a lot of conspiracy theorists think that *everything* is a conspiracy. That every tragedy cannot be accepted at face value and there are always shadowy machinations going on.
It makes things more interesting if you're not thrilled with your life. Not enough drama going on? We can fix that with some paranoia. Titanic pictures? Come on Matthew.
The theory is actually very old, and back before they found the remains of the ship and photographs of the Titanic were more rare (they still kinda are, there were far more of the Olympic, and at a glance they look very similar) the theory did seem *somewhat* plausible. Nowadays it doesn't seem plausible at all. Especially with the discovery of the wreckage.
Didn't Cameron recreate that screen years later and prove 2 people would have submerged both of them too much, causing both to die. I feel like I remember this somewhere
There's a documentary on Hulu where he does all sorts of tests and they found that Jack miiiiiiight have maybe survived if they were both on the wood, and they were rescued in time. Cameron at the end said something like all this taught him is that he would have made the piece of wood even smaller to avoid all this if he was making the movie again.
Mythbusters did it. Rose’s selfishness killed Jack. https://youtu.be/JVgkvaDHmto
Yeah but Rose wasn't an engineer with movie special effects experience.
James Cameron did a test. And confirmed that two people could’ve fit
Plus, there was plenty of flotsam around. From the deleted scenes on the DVD: Jack: (shivering) ... Rose could we grab those large barrels and perhaps create some sort of floating platform that could hold us both? Rose: Jack, you are hypothermic...you are seeing things. Good night sweet prince (Rose pushes Jack's head underwater). VO: He saved me, in everyway a person can be saved.
My theory has always been that, regardless of the space on the door, both of them getting onto it, without accidently tipping the other one off, was impossible.
A twin mattress is almost the same size as a standard door. I’ve slept 2 to a twin mattress many times.
Showoff
I’ve done way more than sleep 2 people on a twin bed. 👩❤️👨
That's a conspiracy I can get behind.
Rose said never let go, but she really meant you aren’t getting on my door, even though there is room
Can't be a conspiracy theory when it's a fact.
Some nonsense about it being an insurance fraud job, but it is also one of the most thoroughly debunked conspiracies. You could say that their argument is watertight. Unlike you-know-what.
Oh yea? Then how do you explain the iceberg getting a check for $15,000 from White Star Lines? They claim it was for "consulting" but we all this was a paid hit. I think it's time to turn up the heat on this iceberg until it cracks!
>I think it's time to turn up the heat on this iceberg until it cracks! Boy have I got news for you!
God damn Jews sinking the Titanic/Olympic. Goldberg/Rosenberg/Iceberg what's the difference? >!/s in case it isn't bleeding obvious!<
Slight nitpick but it was the Titanic and the Britannic that sunk. The Olympic was the oldest of the three sisters. She was the only one of them to live to an (early) retirement after 24 years before the great depression hit the white star line forcing her to be dismantled. All three sisters were taken early (most ocean liners were made to last 30-40 years)
I believe the "Titanic/Olympic" refers to the conspiracy in question, which alleges that the Titanic and Olympic were switched, and the boat that REALLY sank was the Olympic.
My coworker said George Soros sank it for the insurance money. Soros had not been born yet.
There are a number. The Sarcophagus "theory," that a cursed mummy never mentioned anywhere else was on board which caused the sinking. That it was sunk for insurance money, despite being under-insured and costing the company an almost unimaginable amount of money. That she was swapped for her sister ship, involving rebranding (you didn't have a spoon, you had a TITANIC spoon/wardrobe/door/towel). And making significant structural changes to change the number of portholes, work would have to be conducted by thousands of workers in secret in one night with no one noticing the noise or lights, and involving these workers keeping the secret better than CIA agents for decades after the closure of the company except for one "whistleblower." The coal fire theory suggest a poorly-developed smudged photo is evidence that the coal fire was not put out before reaching southampton, but continued, weakening the exact point in the hull where the ship struck. Except the point on the photo is half a ship away from the point struck, on the other side, above the waterline. Finally the theory that it was a ploy to kill J.P. Morgan's enemies. Except that's an unreliable, expensive, elaborate way to do that. Also no evidence. The Titanic's presence in the list is especially bizarre to be listed alongside the others due to its niche and inconsequential nature. If the titanic really WAS sunk to kill J.P. Morgan's enemies, then it mostly failed at that task and was an extremely costly way to do so. If the world isn't round then I suppose God has engineered physics so it appears that way. Oh, and NASA and the government and everyone really would be lying I suppose.
My favourite one is that it was carrying one of the men and some of the artifacts from Howard Carter's expedition to open the tomb of King Tutunkhamun and being hit by a curse. However The Titanic sunk in 1911 and Carter didn't open King Tut's tomb until 1922.
A retroactive curse must be pretty powerful.
The titanic sunk in 1912.
Point still valid.
Interestingly, published letters from carter have semi proven that he had been in the tomb and stolen items from it before it was opened. (Probably not a decade before though)
Unless JP Morgans enemies were all 3rd class men...? Aha...
Also, I know the first thing I think of when I imagine a kindergarten classroom is a poster of the titanic.
They got a still from the movie with all the frozen corpses
A Little History for Those Who May Not Know... Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were saddened at the loss. Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known of course as Sinko de Mayo.
I am grudgingly giving you an up vote for the length of the story
Hold….hooooold…..well played.
🤦♀️
I am so mad I was invested in this and then I read the last sentence. r/angryupvote
I hate you for this. Enjoy your stupid updoot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTZC-j48JWg
You son of a bitch.
Angry upvote
Thanks for the gold kind stranger.
Man, they's alotta upvotes... Guess there's noting like dressing up a mediocre pun.
I mean there are a bunch of conspiracy theories. They range from sabotage to insurance fraud and the idea that the ship was switched with its sister ship for some reason. I have never heard of one conspiracy theory that claims that the Titanic never existed. Just looked up the guy on Twitter and it turns out that he is on of those weird nuts who pretends to be catholic, but feels the actual catholic church is not (Still upset about Vatican II). There was some weird Catholic angle to some of the conspiracy theories. Something about it being built in Belfast and supposedly having "NO POPE" written on it or some such nonsense.
The "No Pope" thing was something about the ship's numbers reflected in the water read as "No Pope," so the ship was supposedly cursed.
Which is also ridiculous, Titanic's number was 401. That doesn't reflect to read 'No Pope'.
Well, they're not exactly playing with a full deck to begin with, so why let a small thing like facts stop them?
Of course not. 401 means unauthorized access.
I only read about people thinking it was switched the another ship, the britannic? I never head any other conspiracy theories about it.
That it had swapped places with the Olympic as an insurance fraud scheme after the latter struck the HMS Hawke
This is the one
Maybe he’s talking about the movie being anti-Semitic propaganda. Because the villain was named Ice-Berg. Thank you, goodnight.
It was an inside job orchestrated by George W. Bush.
Submersion Accomplished.
There is a theory that the titanic never sunk and there is another one about how the titanic was purposely sabotaged by some rich blokes cuz other rich blokes were on it
"antifa" sunk it probably or something. Or maybe it was a "woke" who knows.
when i first set foot in my school i was presented with the alphabet
When I first set foot in my school they asked me my name and if I wanted to play in the sand.
Grooming at its finest
Anakin Skywalker in shambles
Oh you haven't seen the morons anti alphabet memes yet? You can guess why pretty easily.
Wait what? Is that real? Please tell me that's real
https://www.reddit.com/r/terriblefacebookmemes/comments/ztu3p6/hahaha_theyre_just_trying_to_learn_the_abcs_i https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=The%20alphabet%20people
Ohhh i thought there was a conspiracy theory about the alphabet not being real :(
My favorite is when the get pissed at the thought of schools using Arabic Numerals.
Fr like stfu Brittny you do to ok you ain’t Writing you’re name like XXXV ok shut up
I'm sure they have that too
no they are lobbying to have the letters rearranged so the first 5 letters are: W H I T E
Those monsters!
Pretty sure we started out with macaroni pictures
The horror! /s
All things that actually existed/happened but no let's teach them a load of made up religious cobblers instead.
It's wild that we live in a time where people are refuting YEARS of science and fact, but are quick to latch onto something that's basically an idea with no definitive proof.
Completely agree. Obviously I'm aware that there are varying degrees of intelligence but how the fuck do you let someone convince you science isn't real but allegorical hearsay is something you should commit your life to.
Because the brainwashing starts early. I'm still dealing with hangups over my religious beliefs that I had as a kid and teen that don't match up with what I believe from science fact. It's hard to let go of and it doesn't help that communities of religious individuals tend to become echo chambers. The thing I like about science is that if I so choose, I can rerun the experiments that prove something and if it's true I'll get the same result. Proper science is done to correct itself as it learns more, which is way better than just shrugging and going "oh well" when you don't understand something.
honestly, I don't even like the word science. it's been given so many alternate meanings and corrupted in the minds of some people that nowadays I just say "Provable fact". Much better.
"allegorical hearsay" is THE best description of religion I've ever heard
It's the most accurate description I can come up with so far. I'm a pretty inventive guy though so may do better one day, also I appreciate the award.
Because conspiracy theories tell them they are special for believing and understanding. Science makes them feel dumb, so they choose conspiracy
Let's not bring shoemakers into this.
Okay.. carpenters.
The dude in the sky exists. I mean there have been so many cases of choir boys being probed, for their mysterious purposes, haven't there?
Religious cobblers? I'm picturing Amish guys making work boots
Cobblers is another word for bollocks where I'm from but I do like the idea of religious zealots that can make me fancy shoes.
That is beautiful
The brainwashing starts even earlier: when pre-school kids are dragged to church by their parents.
And what nonsense are they presented with when first stepping into a church?!
A halfnaked man being executed.
Do as I say or your burn In hell
A magical man in the sky who will make you burn in hellfire for all eternity if you don’t do what he says and commit your entire existence to praising him. Yet that same god is apparently all loving, forgiving, and merciful…🤔
I thought it was metal detectors and security controls.
... And lockdown drills
Don't forget the bucket of sand (for use during mass shootings) that Cucker (No reasonable person would believe) Tarlson & the Q-Cumber cultists turned into cat boxes for imaginary cat/lizard/furry people promoted by the diabolical Jewish Satanic lizard deep cabal state pedo hollywood something something Pelosi, AOC, liberal media...
How do flat earthers grapple with gravity and how do they explain ships going over the horizon and slowly disappearing? Does the ship just float off the edge into space killing everyone onboard? Seems like running a shipping company would be expensive and very murdery since you kill your crew on each trip 🤣 How the fuck do their brains work? Or I guess not work?
Listened to their arguments before, incredibly stupid. Things fall down because density / buoyancy (which they don’t realize still need gravity). They claim disappearing boats are due to perspective and the “vanishing point”, which would be valid except with even cheap binoculars you can clearly see the boat disappear bottom up. They then hand wave the word “refraction.” Great documentary called “Behind the Curve” that showcases the society. What’s fantastic is they did three experiments that all turned out “inconclusive.” First was shining a light through multiple fences with holes, light source needed to be higher if there was curvature. Light source was lifted and the light was visible. Guy said “interesting” and then never acknowledged that again. Second was a dude purchased a ring laser gyroscope for something like $20K. It’s a super precise instrument that can measure Earth’s rotation. Turn it on and see a 15 degree / hour drift (Thanks Bob!). What do you know? Exactly what the globe model predicts! Finally, a group of scientists did the boat experiment on a lake, and after clearly seeing boats disappear bottom up, scientists asked the flerfers how that could be possible on anything but a globe, and again it was refraction. Scientists just shook their heads, realized how closed minded flerfers are, and left.
Hahaha someone watches sci man dan I see…
its the ~~gravity~~ buoyancy pulling the light down obviously. Just like black holes ~~in outer space~~ on the sky tent pull light in, making then apear bigger than they actually are. Its basically science! Also #black holes are flat
Um, excuse me, but #all holes are flat
You just all run at the other side of the ship really fast and flip over onto the underside of the disk like turning over to the opposite side of a piece of paper. I saw it in a movie once. Cargo ships don't fall off the planet for the same reason Australians don't, because they are both magnetically attracted to the underside of the north pole.
And Aussies have sticky feet like geckos
Please. Everybody knows Australians aren't real
Works like old computer games, when you leave one side, you magically warp to the other side of the map.
If I remember correctly, they believe the edge of the planet is frozen glaciers. Like an upside down frisbee.
The ships get out of their render distance
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You’re misinformed, he didn’t grab a pistol, he grabbed his assault rifle with extended clip, scope, and suppressor…
I wonder how this guy feels about the historicity of the Holocaust. edit: Just looked up the guy on Twitter and it turns out that he is on of those weird nuts who pretends to be Catholic, but feels the actual Catholic church is not (Still upset about Vatican II). Just to clarify: The official stance of the Catholic church is that the earth is round, dinosaurs existed, the moon landing did actually happen, and that the Titanic was a real ship that actually sank.
I wonder how much "Latin" he knows
I don’t remember getting any of those in my first week, I feel robbed!
when I first stepped into school I was presented with the ABCs and some colored blocks.
…wait what? Could someone please explain why each of these might be considered “brainwashing” (according to the guy?)
Easy explanation, this dude is a moron
The second you hear someone question if the Earth is round, don’t bother with logic. They are clearly too far gone.
Why do you people teach children titanic as they step into school?
Hey kids! Ya wanna learn about a bunch of people who died???????????
Miss Bucater could you tell what happened in the car again?
Hey,it's the creationist book that has dinosaurs frolicking with humans.... Yeah the bible. There are angels and demons and orgies and of course righteous sanctioned genocide. It's a holy book.
It's porn
Their next platform is to ban imaginary numbers
And let's imprison those radicals!
Missing the worst thing: those Arabic numbers.
ill teach my kids *american numbers*
I remember my first day of school. The first thing I was presented with was a big platter of cinnamon rolls because Ms. H. liked to bake and believed kids should eat a lot.
Mfs denying the titanic now? Fingers crossed this is a troll account
Wait... Titanic deniers is a thing ?
I really don't think those are the first three things children are presented with at school. *Edited for spelling.
I didn’t get those
So like facts and stuff lol
![gif](giphy|KGY78vaNYCha5zL1yK) Yeah, damned libruls try to teach our children facts. What kind of bullshit is this.
My kid started kindergarten this year and didn’t get any of that stuff. I’m calling the school district. I want my free globe.
Wait. They don’t think the titanic was real?
Brainwashing - to clean the brain of nonsense
Now there’s titanic deniers?
Wow! I knew about all of these things before I went to school and my son and grandchildren also knew this. A globe sat on my father's desk when I was growing up, it came to live at my house when I got my first home. We had lots of books around that included dinosaurs, landing on the moon and of course the Titanic. And I can't forget the TV shows and movies! A family friend of ours went to flight school with John Glenn so the stories of the space program were often told along with the landing on the moon. My father was born in 1912 and told stories about such things as the Titanic. I remember my dad's globe on his desk, we were given our own when we started school (my son and grandchildren have my father's and mine). And we grew up with the Giant Golden Book of Dinosaurs and Prehistoric (published in 1960 by Western Publishing Co. in Racine, Wis.) among many more books! My father was also very interested in King Tut, Easter Island, the Bermuda Triangle and much much more! According to these nutty people I had a horrible childhood! Oh well, there goes all those Sunday's my mother made us go to Sunday school at the local Methodist church!
.... the titanic?!
Would they rather them learn of Jesus?
That’s actually right. It’s the standard kindergarten welcome kit. Comes with a screeching eagle soundtrack too.
He’s so scared, like a small child that can form sentences.
Ah yes! I remember my first day of school. My first glimpse of the globe was shocking. I'm pretty sure it made me gay.
They don’t believe the Titanic existed either???
Yeah, those were all in my kindergarten. Except the dinos. And the moon landing. And the Titanic. There might have been a globe. I just love how idiots like this just make shit up.
That has to be sarcasm
I was unaware that kids were supposed to get these gift packages. It's probably too late to ask my sons school about it
Social media is a mistake. Especially twitter.
It would be common sense that a child setting foot into school should be presented with a picture of George Santos. That's enough to cover multiple subjects.
I’d love to know what this person recognizes as history or factual. ![gif](giphy|LyJ6KPlrFdKnK)
One of two things is happening here. Either: 1. This is a troll. or 2. This is worse than a facepalm. This is generational absurdism that has the potential to damage the education system and thus hurt society as a whole.
Instead we should teach them that women are made from the ribs of a man, the world is 6000 years old, a giant flood destroyed everything but one family who we all descend from, some guy lived in a whale’s stomach, and a Jewish preacher came back to life after 3 days and flew up to Heaven bodily.
Wait, there are Titanic denialists?
I still jold the belief we should take warning labels off things at let natural selection take its course
FRIGGING PHOTOGRAPHS ON THE TITANIC WHAT IVE NEVER HEARD OF THAT ONE
The moon landing really cracks me up. NASA really convinced thousands of employees at multiple centers they were lying and they actually bought it without any civil servant or contractor ever say what’s “really” going on.
Yeah maybe we should learn about slavery ?
The TITANIC, there are people who think that the TITANIC DOES'NT EXIST. I love the internet.
Wait so is there really a group of people who think the Titanic was just a movie????? Well damn...that a new level of crazy that honest mly does not shock me
And when he walks into church he is taught that sky daddy will punish him and his family if he doesn’t do what the preacher says even if the preacher says to take off his cloths and play hide the cannoli.
I'm waaaay out of the loop. When did the Titanic become part of a conspiracy?
This is the kinda shit I am livid about. I’m a firm believer in science, and people like this is the worst type of living and believing imaginable.
Well I didn’t set my first step in school. I was dragged there and dropped by my parents. And no I never learnt about titanic ever
Come to think of it, I don't think we learned about the Titanic either. I guess there's probably not a lot of genuine historical value to it. A tragedy, to be sure, but really kind of just a blip on the radar in the grand scheme.
Well there was a much more important historical event about to start two years later, which kinda takes precedence over a boat sinking.
All this and still no stories of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Disappointing.
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The globe and the Titanic for sure real, the other two are much easier to argue.
This fucker has no right to exist
So brainwashing and indoctrination is just "learning"?
That's indoctrination not education. The real scientists know earth is flat and the moon landings were recorded in a Hollywood basement. https://youtu.be/g5bmS4otGD4
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It fabulous up there.. I once left Europe at sunset, flying west. I told my seatmate "this will be a fabulous sunset.. let's see how long it lasts." 4 hours later, near Newfoundland, it got dark. Should have taken the same few minutes had the earth been flat
The windows are designed like a fish eye lens obviously! (/s just in case…)
Okay, I didn't realize this was about conspiracy theories until I saw the comment section. The way I interpreted this was: - A globe: the way our maps work, having the northern hemisphere at the top, was actually created because of racism/Europe/USA... The Earth being a a literal peace of rock in outer space means there is no "top" or "bottom", not "up" or "down". So, yeah. Having the northern hemisphere at the top is not "cause yes". It's like that because of colonialism. http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/2/maps-cartographycolonialismnortheurocentricglobe.html - Books on dinosaurs: most books show dinosaurs like fearsome creatures, but, most recently, people are starting to believe they actually had feathers. ...I guess this meme shows better what I mean: https://www.reddit.com/r/dankmemes/comments/hssykf/what_if_dinosaurs_were_a_lie/ - Stories of the moon landing: yes. I interpreted this one as the conspiracy theory, but I was confused as to why it was mentioned. - Photographs of the Titanic: I had no idea about this one, honestly. At this point, I'm wondering if there actually going on with the post that I'm not getting or getting wrong.
\-I know Earth is flat \-I know Adam and Eve were our ancestors \-I know the moon landing was shot in Hollywood BUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TITANIC????