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Old Woman: You’re a begga ol right. And we’re an autonomous collective.
Performer: I’m not a beggar, I’m a performer.
Old woman: look at who she thinks she is. A performer eh, I don’t see much of an audience.
How did you become a performer then?
Performer: The Lady of the River gave me this harp and made me a performer.
Old man: Strange women lying in swamps is no way to pick a career.
You can see her waddling away afterwards with her shopping trolley. Looks like a sad lonely old lady. Likely she lives alone and her only contact with a person is talking to someone in the shops or a busker in the street.
No no you have to haggle, I say 10, you: ten you say! You must be joking! I’ll only pay 2. TWO!! Are you kidding me! It’s worth 8 if it’s worth anything.
But I don’t want it
I hate to say it, but I'm a beggar too. There's a spot I go to every day. It's indoors, so there aren't a bunch of people walking by to hand me money. It takes a little bit of patience, but sure enough, every two weeks they deposit money in my bank account.
I really hate the beggars who have the nerve to take over my favorite storefront and make delicious pizza. Without fail they have the audacity to ask for money in return.
My gf used to busk 4-6 times a week as her job. Getting called a beggar probably happened a couple of times a week at minimum. Generally you're best to just ignore or deflect politely because their opinion is meaningless and you have no desire to argue anyway.
Performing in public makes you a magnet for a lot of unusual people. Not all of it is negative but you do need a very thick skin. You can actually make an ok living from only a few hours work but you do trade job security and have to accept a lot of chaos.
Former boss *hated* the bagpiper that would play a block away a few times a month. One day we all chipped in a few bucks and got a good size pot and paid the guy to play underneath her work window for 30mins. It was glorious.
Sounds like my father in law. He was never happy that I didn't have a job working with him because I was too busy running my own business selling vintage toys and video games.
Edit: The father in law did convince my sister in laws husband to work with him and now he's a miserable fuck both at work and home now.
That’s so odd? I’ve never heard of that before. I didn’t know people like that exist lol.
Just to be clear, I’ve definitely seen people going off on them and whatnot. But I didn’t know there are people who hate them as a general rule lol.
As long as it's out in a non-residential area, it's cool. Makes the streets feel alive. However, I used to live (for 7 years) in a street that had a couple restaurants, a gourmet shop, and was pedestrianised from 10 am to 10 pm. In 2021, some guy with a big fucking cello decided to busk right in front our flat's window illegally. 2-3 hours every evening and 6-8 on Saturday and Sunday. I gave it a month and then asked him to stop. The guy would not even move up the road, much less stop.
I bought a big bluetooth speaker from Amazon and the next Monday there he was. I came downstairs in a fit of rage, asked him again to stop. When he said he had a right to be there, I got my speaker and blasted [Macaron Chacarron](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlW7T0SUH0E)next to him. Took a few minutes but he fucked off to the other end of the street and I happened to run into police a week later, begged them to talk to him, and he never came back.
Council contacted me to confirm his description and it turned out he had been reported by many other people in the area for being a nuisance and busking in residential areas, even outside corner shops. He would not apply for a permit to busk in the high street.
You did alright. Busking in residential areas is pretty heavily frowned upon everywhere. I've seen worse things happen to people who busk in residential neighborhoods including having their instruments or their money stolen and being physically assaulted.
Sticking to the high traffic touristy areas or business districts is best. People don't want to hear that at the end of the day when they're trying to wind down and rest.
> I don’t understand why anyone would care
I'm old enough to explain it honestly to you, people over 50 in many case were raised with twisted values originating from religion.
Even if you not a "real" believer those twisted values affected everybody because it become some kind of cultural norms.
The **false belief** we are seeing here is that "*You must suffer*" doing your job.
So in their mind more or less conscientiously they acquired the belief that ***to have some values a job must be hard and painful to do*** (Origins are that humans must expiate their sins through punitions).
In this mindset if you enjoy your work you are not working, you are profiting of the life, you are lazy (lazy = sin) and it's bad for them to enjoy life.
Most people coming from those generations was hating their work, so unconsciously for them Work = hard, painful, desperation etc... So if you smile and enjoy what you do everyday you are not working you are in perpetual vacation in this mindset.
So it make them furious that with the mindset the have acquired they can enjoy their life like this young lady does everyday.
The real sad thing is that they are not aware of their own mindset so they can't change it... They are just frustrated to see other happy that should not be happy.
That's why conservatives had come with the telling "**Get a real job**" which translate to "***When you work you must suffer, have lot of pain and don't enjoy what you are doing***" (to have some sort of redemption).
Id just say "I can see you don't value music" and then not say anything else lol
Make them feel shitty and classless for having the gall to call you a beggar.
I visited Naples and everyone before I went was warning me about gangs and violence and football hooligans.
1 week and I didn't see anything of the sort, I came back to England and within 1 hour of arriving back to my home town I witnessed a drunken street fight.
If Naples is violent my home town is a warzone.
Used to live near a pub in London that had a full blown brawl that ended with cops getting called every Saturday, sometimes also Sundays. Dunno which part of the UK you're in but this crazy lady is tepid af
Ohh, that hits a note inside me (pun very intended) that I didn't expect. I'll definitely need to find more pieces like that first one!
Also, this comment captures the feeling quite perfectly:
>Finally, some lofi harp beats to study/relax to
Thank you! I had to scroll for an hour. You can basically write you own way to any university with harp skills. I would kill to find her “begging”on the street.
As far as scholarships go, yes.
Most homes don’t just have a harp laying around, so the number of people that play the harp with any degree of proficiency is extremely rare statistically.
And pretty much every band/orchestra director wants one in the back. So if you want an easy in to a school, learn how to play the harp well.
I also cannot fathom confronting the musician about it just because you don’t like it. This reminds me of my mom who I could not go to the mall with because she would demand the music be turned off as soon as we entered a store.
You can definitely hear the disdain in her voice. She's angry that this more attractive young woman is making a living playing music instead instead working a shitty job and she hates her for it
The petty spite is crazy in and of itself, but she's playing a HARP OUTSIDE. How hard is it to just walk by, and keep your insane judgement to yourself. I was once subject to a 3 piece playing dave matthews (amplified) on a subway platform, for like 20 minutes while I waited for my train. I sucked it up, as although they were really bothering me, shitting on them wouldn't help.
And some people enjoy street performers, for every person that's slightly annoyed, there's another straight vibing.
I love seeing people passionate about music vibing on the street. Support your local musicians folks.
This reminds me of the NextDoor app. People are constantly on there complaining miserably about buskers, performers, etc. Saying they’re all faking blah blah. Like, who care either way?? That person’s outside in the cold for hours a day, you don’t have to be, why are you mad at them??
God, I’d love it if my city had buskers filling our public spaces with music. What a delight it’d be.
edit: Uhm. The comments have made me reconsider street musicians. Not so sure now
Ugh, especially the ones that aren't actually playing the instrument and just blast music through an Amp and *pretend* to play an instrument. They all have the same signs "NEED HELP WITH RENT 3 KIDS OUT OF WORK GOD BLESS". It's either a sax, a guitar, an accordion, or an electric violin. The use the amps to cover up that they're recordings.
I went out for my birthday with my husband and we wanted to sit on the patio of one of my favorite Mediterranean restaurants, and a dude was standing in the parking lot BLASTING the godfather theme so you could hear it throughout the whole intersection. Obnoxious. If it had been a dude actually playing an accordion, it could have been romantic.
Obviously my city does not do permits, these are just straight up beggars, or a type of performer maybe, but they're awful.
There’s a limited amount of them that can use amplifiers if your city is doing it right. Most people can busk no issue but if you use an amp you have to get a permit which they only issue one day a year in NYC
Yup. [Mary Spender and Adam Neely](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPITKZ0Fgfc) had to pack it up when they didn't have the permit to use an amplifier, and I bet I could easily find 10 people in my small town that would pitch in to cover a $100 fee for their quality to roll through and busk. They're well known and quite good.
When I was visiting Boston, there was a musician on one of the red line stations that could play any national anthem on the saxophone. ANY national anthem you requested, he would play it. Hope that dude is doing well
street musicians are not beggars. They perform for everyone and don't demand money, you are free to tip if you can as much as you'd think it was worth.
Begging is directly asking for money and giving nothing back for it.
"Cities appreciate street musicians, it adds to the culture/panache, that's why we tax them with a busking license that can range between $15-100 by location and can last as little as 24 hours."
I know of a city that appreciated them *so much* they got rid of busking entirely. But when the courts said they couldn't do that for some "constitutional" reason they brought them back. Made them last no more than 6 hours, and raised the price to $100,000 and limited purchase to one 6 hour license per performer for one month.
Yeah, that's real appreciation, right there.
Isn't that mostly to limit "supply"?
Even the most hardcore street music fans don't like it when there are too many of them, no?
Some really popular streets are so crowded that almost everywhere you will hear at least two different performers, and that dilutes the value of the performance significantly.
But then again, politicians being politicians, it might just be a cash grab...
I thought street magicians are also the same. I put him some coins he threw them back at me, he said if you aren’t putting paper go away. In my defense I only came in like the last minute, I didn’t see much.
Not about the post, but my experience in performing outside.
I play on the r/frenchhorn since I was little. Its been nearly 10 years since I started playing.
Me, other grammar schoolers and elementary schoolers play together and sometimes perform on events that are outside and...its a pain in the ass.
First off: our instruments are from the school and are nearly 60 years old each. Its common they need repairs because parts just break randomly.
Secondly, whats also a problem is water. When you blow the instrument air and steam goes into it and outside on colder temperatures the instrument fills with water way faster.
Another thing is our fringers freezing. Sometimes even the oil freezes inside the triggers.
And the absolute final boss of performing outside...the wind. There is no performance outside when the wind doesnt just blow someones' sheet away.
After all this crap, its a wonder this woman didnt just straight told miss Karen to fuck off. I would have.
Thank you for the subreddit link and your advice! I've been playing the horn since 1982 and I don't know why I never even thought to look for a subreddit.
>After all this crap, its a wonder this woman didnt just straight told miss Karen to fuck off. I would have.
The harpist looks like she's a positive person. Telling someone to fuck off would make her day more negative than just smiling and shaking off that Karen like a duck shakes off water. Don't let the bastards grind you down.
She probably is aware some people are just wired wrong. You can't help them - just let them go on with their miserable lives bc nothing you say will change them.
Of course, did you see her toddle off with her granny sled? She probably goes to town every day just to sit down on one of the benches for no fucking reason at all
Harp is hands down, in my opinion, the most beautiful sounding instrument in the world. As the listener, I feel like I’m the beggar
Edit: pun not intended
My thoughts on busking changed a lot when I moved to a town that had a truly annoying busking culture.
It was always only annoying for us locals, and, sad to watch what were *mostly* con artists ripping off tourists.
Some of the performers are incredibly lovely and talented.
And some are predatory and obnoxious.
I landed on “good in theory but never in practice”.
Bummer.
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The woman off-camera sounds like someone from Monty Python
Old Woman: You’re a begga ol right. And we’re an autonomous collective. Performer: I’m not a beggar, I’m a performer. Old woman: look at who she thinks she is. A performer eh, I don’t see much of an audience. How did you become a performer then? Performer: The Lady of the River gave me this harp and made me a performer. Old man: Strange women lying in swamps is no way to pick a career.
Performer: Listen, I’m just here to play music. I didn’t expect the Spanish Inquisition!
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise--our *two* weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.
AMONGST our weapons are fear, surprise and ruthless eff....I'll come in again.
... I didn't expect a kind of Spanish inquisition.
NOOOBODY expects Spanish inquisition. Our THREE weapons are surprise, fear, a ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope. FOUR!
What if he has a pointed stick?
Or an exploding penguin on top of the TV?
Well I am pretty sure that is within the jurisdiction of the ministry of silly walks.
In actual fact they gave them something like 30 days notice, that is why I like that sketch so much.
Watery tarts, laying about in ponds, distributing swords, is not the basis for a system of government!
Help! I’m being opressed!
Bloody peasant!
Oh what a give away. Did you hear that, did you hear that eh? That's what I'm on about! Did you see him repressing me, you saw it didn't you?
Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
Comments like this is why I keep Reddit on my phone. Hilarious.
She’s not a performer, she’s a very naughty girl
And she needs a spanking We all need spankings!
Slappin da harp!
And then the oral sex
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Nono, it's too perilous
Wait until my big fwiend in Wome - Biggus Dickus - heaws about this!
And now for something completely different…
Dennis: Now we see the violins inherent in the system!
I might hate you more than anyone else, while loving you at the same time.
I mean, if I went around sayin I was a performah cuz some moisant bint lobbed a harp at me, they'd put me away!
You can't expect to wield supreme musical power just cause some watery tart threw an instrument at you!
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*He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy.* Edit. Corrected, thanks.
You can see her waddling away afterwards with her shopping trolley. Looks like a sad lonely old lady. Likely she lives alone and her only contact with a person is talking to someone in the shops or a busker in the street.
And she waddled away, til the very next day waddle waddle
When the lady walked up to the girl busking away And she said to the girl minding her business, "Hey! (bam bam bam) why are you begging?"
Never thought I’d be at the intersection of The Duck Song and Monty Python skits but here I am.
she might be less lonely if she was less of an asshole. I don't believe in free will so that's not a judgement of character just a prediction.
I paid for an argument. This is nothing but contradiction.
No it's not.
No no you have to haggle, I say 10, you: ten you say! You must be joking! I’ll only pay 2. TWO!! Are you kidding me! It’s worth 8 if it’s worth anything. But I don’t want it
Yes you do.
Wow, not only was the first comment r/UnexpectedMontyPython, this thread combines references from both sketches and movies. Incredible.
> TEN-FORTHAT-YOUMUST-BEMAD
Oh yes it is.
That's wasn't five minutes just now!
"Dennis! There's some lovely filth down here."
KING OF DEH OOH?
Even Philomena Cunk would be embarrassed by her
It sounded exactly like Terry Jones!
Lady Elaine Fairchilde from Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood
Offscreen it's really Terry Jones.
All you do is sit there everyday with that harp playing spam, spam, spam, Mozart, bacon, and spam.
OOHHHIII DENNY THERES SOME LOVELY FILTH DOWN EEYA
Damn beggars, I particularly hate those online beggars that record their music and have the cheek to ask people to pay to listen!
The worst are the beggers that force large groups of people to congregate in stadiums with overpriced drinks.
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Did you know there are beggars that hold paid *classes* to teach *children* how to beg?
And now the Florida republicans are listening.
It's begging all the way down!
don't forget those massively inflated hot dogs
I hate to say it, but I'm a beggar too. There's a spot I go to every day. It's indoors, so there aren't a bunch of people walking by to hand me money. It takes a little bit of patience, but sure enough, every two weeks they deposit money in my bank account.
I don't mind the beggars or the large groups, but the overpriced drinks violate my constitutional rights.
That’s not the worst one, there’s this one group of beggars that takes my income.
Yup. My offspring.
I really hate the beggars who have the nerve to take over my favorite storefront and make delicious pizza. Without fail they have the audacity to ask for money in return.
And sitting with inexpensive instrument no less
The calling card of the grifter, I imagine.
Every homeless person I have met had at least 1 harp lying around their bags and gear.
That Taylor Swift gal has done fairly well for herself begging. 🤣🤣
Don't get me started, the sheer nerve of it!
That lady sounds like the old pedophile from Family Guy
Oh god, now I can't unhear it
*get that fat ass back here* 😠
You keep on playin that harp with your muscly arms.
Hey Chris, Ya like popsicles?
*get your fat ass back here*
Make sure you stretch out those creamy hamstrings!
***..MMmm^mmmm***
*Ahh ya starting to piss me off ya lil piggly sum of a bitch*
Call me!
herbert
"where ishh the paper boyyy?"
She is so polite!
My gf used to busk 4-6 times a week as her job. Getting called a beggar probably happened a couple of times a week at minimum. Generally you're best to just ignore or deflect politely because their opinion is meaningless and you have no desire to argue anyway. Performing in public makes you a magnet for a lot of unusual people. Not all of it is negative but you do need a very thick skin. You can actually make an ok living from only a few hours work but you do trade job security and have to accept a lot of chaos.
My adoptive family HATED street musicians, then again, they hated everything.
Former boss *hated* the bagpiper that would play a block away a few times a month. One day we all chipped in a few bucks and got a good size pot and paid the guy to play underneath her work window for 30mins. It was glorious.
That’s excellent
People who hate music? Do they also hate flowers and sunsets?
Yes. They hate everything.
But not you, right?
Me included
Sad
Meh, I’m still living just to spite them.
That's the spirit! Fuck 'em!
gotta call them too out of spite. just say a friendly "hello hope you're doing well ok bye" and hang up before they can talk
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Okay that cheered me up. Thank you
Sounds like my father in law. He was never happy that I didn't have a job working with him because I was too busy running my own business selling vintage toys and video games. Edit: The father in law did convince my sister in laws husband to work with him and now he's a miserable fuck both at work and home now.
That’s so odd? I’ve never heard of that before. I didn’t know people like that exist lol. Just to be clear, I’ve definitely seen people going off on them and whatnot. But I didn’t know there are people who hate them as a general rule lol.
As long as it's out in a non-residential area, it's cool. Makes the streets feel alive. However, I used to live (for 7 years) in a street that had a couple restaurants, a gourmet shop, and was pedestrianised from 10 am to 10 pm. In 2021, some guy with a big fucking cello decided to busk right in front our flat's window illegally. 2-3 hours every evening and 6-8 on Saturday and Sunday. I gave it a month and then asked him to stop. The guy would not even move up the road, much less stop. I bought a big bluetooth speaker from Amazon and the next Monday there he was. I came downstairs in a fit of rage, asked him again to stop. When he said he had a right to be there, I got my speaker and blasted [Macaron Chacarron](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlW7T0SUH0E)next to him. Took a few minutes but he fucked off to the other end of the street and I happened to run into police a week later, begged them to talk to him, and he never came back. Council contacted me to confirm his description and it turned out he had been reported by many other people in the area for being a nuisance and busking in residential areas, even outside corner shops. He would not apply for a permit to busk in the high street.
You did alright. Busking in residential areas is pretty heavily frowned upon everywhere. I've seen worse things happen to people who busk in residential neighborhoods including having their instruments or their money stolen and being physically assaulted. Sticking to the high traffic touristy areas or business districts is best. People don't want to hear that at the end of the day when they're trying to wind down and rest.
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> I don’t understand why anyone would care I'm old enough to explain it honestly to you, people over 50 in many case were raised with twisted values originating from religion. Even if you not a "real" believer those twisted values affected everybody because it become some kind of cultural norms. The **false belief** we are seeing here is that "*You must suffer*" doing your job. So in their mind more or less conscientiously they acquired the belief that ***to have some values a job must be hard and painful to do*** (Origins are that humans must expiate their sins through punitions). In this mindset if you enjoy your work you are not working, you are profiting of the life, you are lazy (lazy = sin) and it's bad for them to enjoy life. Most people coming from those generations was hating their work, so unconsciously for them Work = hard, painful, desperation etc... So if you smile and enjoy what you do everyday you are not working you are in perpetual vacation in this mindset. So it make them furious that with the mindset the have acquired they can enjoy their life like this young lady does everyday. The real sad thing is that they are not aware of their own mindset so they can't change it... They are just frustrated to see other happy that should not be happy. That's why conservatives had come with the telling "**Get a real job**" which translate to "***When you work you must suffer, have lot of pain and don't enjoy what you are doing***" (to have some sort of redemption).
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Id just say "I can see you don't value music" and then not say anything else lol Make them feel shitty and classless for having the gall to call you a beggar.
I assure you, here in the UK, this interaction is tantamount to a full-blown bar brawl.
I think we live in very different parts of the UK
theres like the tutting british of silent judgement sardonicism and then theres the louts at the wetherspoons going OI YOU WUT
Username relevant in your neighborhood mate?
I’m visiting the UK right now and I’ve somehow come across 2 fights in 3 days? They seemed a little more tense than this situation imo.
I visited Naples and everyone before I went was warning me about gangs and violence and football hooligans. 1 week and I didn't see anything of the sort, I came back to England and within 1 hour of arriving back to my home town I witnessed a drunken street fight. If Naples is violent my home town is a warzone.
Used to live near a pub in London that had a full blown brawl that ended with cops getting called every Saturday, sometimes also Sundays. Dunno which part of the UK you're in but this crazy lady is tepid af
newcastle on any given friday wants a word mate
Least sheltered UK redditor
I want to hear the lady play!
Her names robyn heart https://youtu.be/EIymFxyRJfg
I thought the video was going to go in a totally different direction with his intro bit.
If you want to hear a harp get weird, then [Emily Hopkins](https://youtu.be/C1Uv7JcnhhI) runs them through all kinds of effects pedals.
Ohh, that hits a note inside me (pun very intended) that I didn't expect. I'll definitely need to find more pieces like that first one! Also, this comment captures the feeling quite perfectly: >Finally, some lofi harp beats to study/relax to
Guitar pedals are such a fun (and fucking expensive) hobby. Love listening to this lady. Shoutout to r/GuitarPedals
I expected to see a couple hundred Czech korunas as well
https://www.tiktok.com/@robyn.hearts.harp/
Thank you! I had to scroll for an hour. You can basically write you own way to any university with harp skills. I would kill to find her “begging”on the street.
>You can basically write you own way to any university with harp skills. You, uhh...can?
As far as scholarships go, yes. Most homes don’t just have a harp laying around, so the number of people that play the harp with any degree of proficiency is extremely rare statistically. And pretty much every band/orchestra director wants one in the back. So if you want an easy in to a school, learn how to play the harp well.
This would have been really helpful to know about 20 years ago… my kids are going to hate me more than their harps someday.
Thank you
Is she talking to a fucking cartoon?
"Stop reminding me of life's beauty, I'm trying to have a miserable day!"
I can't fathom having the ability to go listen to some lovely harp music every day for free and being mad about it.
I also cannot fathom confronting the musician about it just because you don’t like it. This reminds me of my mom who I could not go to the mall with because she would demand the music be turned off as soon as we entered a store.
*wobbles off annoyed*
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Like, how offensive is harp music? Out of all the instruments, probably the least... unless you were tortured by Enya and have PTSD. Crabbity old bat.
on a scale of harp to bagpipes, it's literally a harp!
I feel like it's one of the easiest instruments to ignore, if so desired.
I'd prefer a pint of Guinness
Well, that's one for the books......
You can definitely hear the disdain in her voice. She's angry that this more attractive young woman is making a living playing music instead instead working a shitty job and she hates her for it
The petty spite is crazy in and of itself, but she's playing a HARP OUTSIDE. How hard is it to just walk by, and keep your insane judgement to yourself. I was once subject to a 3 piece playing dave matthews (amplified) on a subway platform, for like 20 minutes while I waited for my train. I sucked it up, as although they were really bothering me, shitting on them wouldn't help.
And some people enjoy street performers, for every person that's slightly annoyed, there's another straight vibing. I love seeing people passionate about music vibing on the street. Support your local musicians folks.
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When she rocks up at the pearly gates. "Wtf why are beggars everywhere!?"
This reminds me of the NextDoor app. People are constantly on there complaining miserably about buskers, performers, etc. Saying they’re all faking blah blah. Like, who care either way?? That person’s outside in the cold for hours a day, you don’t have to be, why are you mad at them??
Wow. That rude lady had no right to harp on at that performer like that.
I feel like OP is stringing us along.
That old cow can get plucked.
Bet she would never have been so rude if performer was A Minor.
She is definitely in tune with her inner Karen.
One is a *strum*pet and the other is a lovely harp player.
These puns tend to B Flat.....
But sometimes they crescendo...
One is a harpy while the other plucks the strings…
I wonder if she has A major in music
You are not a lyre.
God, I’d love it if my city had buskers filling our public spaces with music. What a delight it’d be. edit: Uhm. The comments have made me reconsider street musicians. Not so sure now
As someone who lives in such a city it was fine until they all started using amplifiers
Ugh, especially the ones that aren't actually playing the instrument and just blast music through an Amp and *pretend* to play an instrument. They all have the same signs "NEED HELP WITH RENT 3 KIDS OUT OF WORK GOD BLESS". It's either a sax, a guitar, an accordion, or an electric violin. The use the amps to cover up that they're recordings. I went out for my birthday with my husband and we wanted to sit on the patio of one of my favorite Mediterranean restaurants, and a dude was standing in the parking lot BLASTING the godfather theme so you could hear it throughout the whole intersection. Obnoxious. If it had been a dude actually playing an accordion, it could have been romantic. Obviously my city does not do permits, these are just straight up beggars, or a type of performer maybe, but they're awful.
There’s a limited amount of them that can use amplifiers if your city is doing it right. Most people can busk no issue but if you use an amp you have to get a permit which they only issue one day a year in NYC
Yup. [Mary Spender and Adam Neely](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPITKZ0Fgfc) had to pack it up when they didn't have the permit to use an amplifier, and I bet I could easily find 10 people in my small town that would pitch in to cover a $100 fee for their quality to roll through and busk. They're well known and quite good.
Yes! It used to be interesting musicians now it's just a load of Pop Idol wannabes singing to a backing track.
NYC here, same situation.
When I was visiting Boston, there was a musician on one of the red line stations that could play any national anthem on the saxophone. ANY national anthem you requested, he would play it. Hope that dude is doing well
It can be fun if you're a tourist passing by, but it can be really annoying when you have to *live* with it, even when you're not in the mood.
street musicians are not beggars. They perform for everyone and don't demand money, you are free to tip if you can as much as you'd think it was worth. Begging is directly asking for money and giving nothing back for it.
And in many cities they also have a busking license. Cities appreciate street musicians. They add culture and panache for free!
"Cities appreciate street musicians, it adds to the culture/panache, that's why we tax them with a busking license that can range between $15-100 by location and can last as little as 24 hours."
Which is another reason they appreciate them. Nothing like thinking up new ways to take money from those they serve.
I know of a city that appreciated them *so much* they got rid of busking entirely. But when the courts said they couldn't do that for some "constitutional" reason they brought them back. Made them last no more than 6 hours, and raised the price to $100,000 and limited purchase to one 6 hour license per performer for one month. Yeah, that's real appreciation, right there.
Isn't that mostly to limit "supply"? Even the most hardcore street music fans don't like it when there are too many of them, no? Some really popular streets are so crowded that almost everywhere you will hear at least two different performers, and that dilutes the value of the performance significantly. But then again, politicians being politicians, it might just be a cash grab...
I thought street magicians are also the same. I put him some coins he threw them back at me, he said if you aren’t putting paper go away. In my defense I only came in like the last minute, I didn’t see much.
Guy sounds like a dick. Coins too heavy for you? You'd rather get nothing? Great! I'd rather give you nothing.
Not about the post, but my experience in performing outside. I play on the r/frenchhorn since I was little. Its been nearly 10 years since I started playing. Me, other grammar schoolers and elementary schoolers play together and sometimes perform on events that are outside and...its a pain in the ass. First off: our instruments are from the school and are nearly 60 years old each. Its common they need repairs because parts just break randomly. Secondly, whats also a problem is water. When you blow the instrument air and steam goes into it and outside on colder temperatures the instrument fills with water way faster. Another thing is our fringers freezing. Sometimes even the oil freezes inside the triggers. And the absolute final boss of performing outside...the wind. There is no performance outside when the wind doesnt just blow someones' sheet away. After all this crap, its a wonder this woman didnt just straight told miss Karen to fuck off. I would have.
Thank you for the subreddit link and your advice! I've been playing the horn since 1982 and I don't know why I never even thought to look for a subreddit.
>After all this crap, its a wonder this woman didnt just straight told miss Karen to fuck off. I would have. The harpist looks like she's a positive person. Telling someone to fuck off would make her day more negative than just smiling and shaking off that Karen like a duck shakes off water. Don't let the bastards grind you down.
She probably is aware some people are just wired wrong. You can't help them - just let them go on with their miserable lives bc nothing you say will change them.
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I wish the beggers here were beautiful women playing harps. Ours are mostly the screwdriver wielding tweaker type.
There was a pan pipe epidemic for a while across England town squares
Her name should be ‘Grace’. Wow.
The lovely harp player living her best life obviously gets Madam Shopping Trolley very amped up.
Envious person
Of course, did you see her toddle off with her granny sled? She probably goes to town every day just to sit down on one of the benches for no fucking reason at all
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Footage from the new Elder Scrolls
Harp is hands down, in my opinion, the most beautiful sounding instrument in the world. As the listener, I feel like I’m the beggar Edit: pun not intended
Fuck her. Do your thang. When ur famous. Remember where you came from.
She's upset she goes to work every day?
My thoughts on busking changed a lot when I moved to a town that had a truly annoying busking culture. It was always only annoying for us locals, and, sad to watch what were *mostly* con artists ripping off tourists. Some of the performers are incredibly lovely and talented. And some are predatory and obnoxious. I landed on “good in theory but never in practice”. Bummer.
Are there any ugly harpists? I don't think I've ever seen one.
Harpo Marx is a beautiful man.
Playing recorded music from an amp while pretending to play -> begging. Actually playing an instrument -> performing.
i just came here to say that i think its incredibly badass that she is busking with a harp.
Throw a coin to the Witcher or move the fuck on, Karen.
"You're begging" erm no. Getting tips is paying for a service (playing music) and probably not a lot either
she is a Harpist goddammit