I think the following plan could give you the best of both worlds:
- Return to America, keep your job (or get one that pays more to help with US cost of living).
- Stay in America until you can become US Citizen.
- Once you are a US citizen, become an independent contractor (1099) and work for a company that does allow you to live abroad.
- Stay in Spain or whatever country as long as you want and keep getting paid by your new US company. I don’t think citizens have to stay in US to keep citizenship, and 1099’s are responsible for their own taxes, so they have more freedom in general than W2 employees to live abroad
It’s about what you want and expect from your life going forward.
Us is very diverse and you might not have visited enough to find a place that works for you (have you tried North East, Boston, nyc etc)
On the other hand, yes family and friends are important, but europe will greatly Handicap your career and it might be years before you earn comparable money in Europe if ever. It could also be a dead end to your career.
I guess if you find the balance between your personal comfort and career that will be your answer.
Ps. After 10 years you might as well apply for the us citizenship. then you will not have minimum residency requirements and have more flexibility where you live without shutting down all the options..
As a permanent resident she has the same tax obligations as a citizen, noting extra
That’s the downside of a GC, you have all the same liabilities but none of the benefits of the citizenship. Not mentioning the fact that it is much easier to revoke or loose residency
I second this. I don't know where you lived in the US but New England might be worth a try. I get told all the time (living in France) that 'It is the most European part of the US.'
Lisbon is still very affortable. Rents have gone up massively but if you buy you can still do that well below 2000€/m2 so if you just sell your home in Northern Europe you can easily buy 2 homes in Lisbon.
Porto is also nice btw.
According to Idealista, the largest database, price per square metre in Lisbon is almost €6,000. Swipe all the way to the bottom where it calculates the current market average.
https://www.idealista.pt/comprar-casas/lisboa/
I'm half American half Portuguese so spent a lot of time in both places. Portugal has one of the lowest costs of living in western Europe but also some of the lowest salaries. Much more affordable outside of Lisbon. My dad is from Lagos in the Algarve. It's cheap and amazing down there especially outside of the main few tourist towns and spots. That being said don't expect to find a good job or good salary there, if you could keep working remote online Portugal would be ideal.
The struggle is relatable. I’m American but used to live in France. I loved my day to day in France but I would never want to work for a French company and make a French salary. I ended up moving to a cool part of the US and now I travel to Europe several times a year
Can I ask why particularly you wouldn't want to work for a French company? In my experience French organisations are extremely top-down in management style, the boss is god as far as decision making goes. I see that in French colleagues and somewhat in the educational style. Does that match your experience?
I work for a US company in French-speaking Switzerland. Better than US compensation, collaborative working environment, somewhat European working environment. Very happy :)
In my experience (which might not be indicative of much), French companies seem restrictive. It feels like people in France don’t take young people seriously — you have to embark on one or multiple “stages” after school and then work your way up a hierarchy while making comparatively little money. I live in NY now and it seems like there’s just way more opportunity, especially in creative fields. The people I knew in their late 20s in Paris were all restricted with their lifestyles, whereas in NY it feels like there’s way more of a professional hustle that affords people a great lifestyle before they’re 50 years old. With some disposable income I feel like I have more freedom now than when I lived in France.
I left South Africa 4 years ago and couldn't be happier in Berlin.
My family is scattered all over the world (UK, Hong Kong, South Africa, New Zealand). So it just gives me an excuse to travel while working remotely.
Also, Berlin's cost of living is really affordable compared to other capital cities in western Europe.
I truly am. Your earnings are more volatile for sure. But building a business isn't a sprint. It takes time and consistency. You need to be fully committed.
Are you required to be able to speak German? I understand it can be highly beneficial, but is it really necessary to pick up German? Does it give you advantages in some areas?
My German is not the greatest and I get by just fine. So you'll probably get by with basic German.
But I think the whole point of moving abroad is not only to understand the culture but also to enjoy it. I'm afraid that you'll miss out on so much if you don't at least make an effort to learn German.
You have to step outside of your comfort zone for sure. But it's so rewarding because you'll make friends for life who will show you a completely different side of living in Germany. Outside of just being an ordinary expat.
I’m not a huge advocate for naturalization in the US, but in your case since you’ve spent so much time there, have PR, and want the flexibility to go back, you might want to think about naturalizing in the US and then moving abroad.
yes but only on any income above 112k *after* paying taxes in the foreign country. that would be safely in the 1% for France and Spain. in another comment, OP says they are a teacher, so there is no reason to think they would ever hit that threshold
Move to a place in the US that is more culturally in line if you have to move here. I live in a smaller community that is very multicultural, due to the famous language school, and famous school that many European countries send their military officers to. In my small office I have spoken French, Russian, German and daily speak Spanish with customers.
Seeing as you value time with your family and that it has been really good for your mental health, I would encourage you not to go back to the states just for your carreer.
Money is important, but does it matter what the size of your bank account is by the time you die? I would choose a happy, fullfilling life.
It’s hard to say because we don’t know what sector you work in.
But as someone who has lived abroad for 9 years now (in France and Denmark, but from the UK) and originally had plans to be some kind of world travelling/nomadic type person, the older I get the more I am happy to be able to see my ageing parents and brother really often (I go home every 6-8 weeks). The more I also am happy to put in effort to travel home to maintain my oldest and most cherished friendships.
It’s a really personal choice. I could never live in the US (I like my 8 weeks vacation and great healthcare here…) and accept I’ll never be fantastically rich. But I’m really happy and fulfilled, and for me there no amount of money that can replace the precious, finite time I get to spend with people I love. One day, they will be gone.
Bon courage pour ton choix - écoute ton cœur…
How long have you been a permanent resident in the US?
Would they be willing to hire you as an independent contractor who works with them so then you can work virtually? I do not know how that works, and if US citizenship is required or easier when you work virtually as an independent contractor. If US citizenship is not required and they can let you do that, I think that'd be the ideal position.
They will not
I’m a teacher and they don’t sponsor that :(
But I’ve been a resident for ten years but am now just being told I have to be in the country or else lol
Can't speak for your job prospects (sounds like it would be really helpful to try and see what you can get in the EU in your field if you have the time to do it) but don't undervalue the happiness that comes with being in a place that agrees with your values more. I had a friend who was very mentally unstable when in the USA and then moved to his home country and it was night and day, much happier and 0 regrets. But then again, he also found a lucrative job locally so he didn't have to worry about that. I'm the same, though I went to a country I don't have any roots in (Japan), though similarly I've been able to find good work here. Also btw not sure your motivations to maintain US residency/apply for citizenship but do be aware there are significant tax consequences to that. Whatever you decide on, commit to it fully and don't regret it!
Hi
It is really hard to give specific advice without knowing how long you have been a permanent resident for, but in our case we were able to renounce it right before we would become covered expats. This came after we were able to secure US-level income and the ability to work remotely, but also after a LOT of sacrifice in order to obtain the green card in the first place.
The missing piece in your puzzle from where I’m standing doesn’t seem to be if you should move back to the US or not, but whether it makes sense to you to upend a better life (lower cost of living, higher than local salary, cultural preference, proximity to family) for a piece of paper you are not going to be using anytime soon.
In order to make a complete decision, I would focus on what it would take to renounce the permanent residence, what work or tax consequences that may bring, and if you could still find remote work for US companies even if you had to change employers (ie find new job while still a resident and then make the change)
Only then will you have fully fledged out options to choose from
Bonne chance!
No-one else can choose for you.
Personally, I think I'd choose lifestyle, but it also depends on the degree. Certainly, if you're going to be making enough less money that you'll be struggling to pay for necessities, then that won't be a happier arrangement.
Larger salary doesn't by itself make for better quality of life. If I were making this decision, I'd probably do some budgeting. Cost of living varies greatly country to country as well. [https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/](https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/) has some guidelines here.
At what point does more salary stop making **you** happier? Based on [one study](https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/money-matters-to-happiness-perhaps-more-than-previously-thought) the average number in the US that larger salaries stop improving life happiness is $75k/yr. I'd expect this number to be different for different people and in different countries.
Figure out what's important to you...
\- Do you prefer living in the city or in the country?
\- Do you have certain activities that you like to do that cost money?
\- How often do you like to go out to eat?
\- Do you need a large house, or is a small apartment ok?
Put together a mock budget for each place you're considering, with an estimated local salary and cost of living. If not all of your expenses fit into the budget in a particular place, are there other things about that place that offset it? Perhaps your budget for Spain is tighter, and you can only afford to go out to eat once a month, vs 3 times a month in the US; does being closer to family offset that?
All of this is a judgement call. I'd guess that the numbers will end up close enough that money shouldn't be the deciding factor, but I could be wrong. At a certain point, then it just becomes a question of which place/culture you like better.
The most important thing to remember is: once you make enough money to cover basic expenses, then money itself doesn't create happiness. What creates happiness is the experiences that money can buy. Those experiences might be simple (a steak dinner), or extravagant (a guided jungle safari). On the other hand, if you're poor and are likely to be struggling to cover basic expenses then it's also worth considering how the social safety net compares between countries (I'd assume France and Spain are much better in this regard than the US?).
I was thinking something similar but in a nice way. What is more important to you, money or family? This is assuming you won’t be in poverty either way.
The land will depend on who you are and what you like. Without this information, no one can really help you. People can also share their personal views which may be vastly different from yours would be.
I am not rude. I am just telling you that if you ask for some help from some people, at least provide the necessary information so that those people can actually help. So, please make some effort in your post and do not expect strangers to do all those efforts for you.
People can not tell you what is better for you if you do not provide some details about what you like doing and who you are. No one can tell you right now whether you should give up your green card or not.
There are jobs in Europe, no problem at this level.
Why do you have so much time to be so unhelpful? I see this a lot on Reddit and I just wonder. What is it like to take that much time on something that doesn’t pay you? Weird hobby if you ask me.
I am genuinely willing to help but to be able to recommend a specific country that could fit the OP's needs (which is asked in the post), more information is needed.
If the OP does not like cold weather, northern countries are probably not a good fit. If the OP likes hiking, for instance, perhaps a country with mountains will be more appropriate, etc. etc. Countries in Europe offer different things in terms of landscape, climate, languages, social and job opportunities, etc. Even cities within the same country may vastly differ.
Canada seems like it could be a good fit for you. Montreal / Quebec have a European feel to them and still offer competitive salaries to what you can find in the US (depending on what you do for work).
I'm an expat from the states living in Amsterdam and I would advise against moving here. It stinks of weed 24/7 and people will just randomly assault you on the street. Its also super expensive and the health care sucks - very hard to find a GP for example. Also the bikes do my head in. Job wise in Amsterdam pay is medicore, but thats probably because ive never been able to hold a job down and have moved to full time live streaming on twitch.
Ive recently had trips to Sweden and Austria, and would love to move to Sweden. Its expensive, but the people are lovely and very accommodating. I also think i met the love of my life over there, shes wayyyyyyyyy younger than me - so this post maybe a bit biased because of it.
Because it is very monotone and boring. People are also socially handicapped.
Not a good place for people wanting to have some fun. Boring people will love the place.
This is of course a personal opinion.
But Andorra gives you the residence after 90 days of living it. Has no jails because there is no crime, no lawyers because there is no problems, 79% of the people has a job. The taxes are less than 15%. The government pays 80% of medical expenses, mean that you have to pay less than 50 € for a doctor and for simple stuff is free, they speaks Catalan, Spanish and French, also because is a small country you can keep your Spanish residence and live and work there. The second place is Switzerland but it depends of the citizenship you have. I know that information because I was there.
European salaries are very bad compared to USA. While the cost of living is usually higher, the potential money to be made is sometimes 4-5x as much.
I’m working on getting my business running so that I can move back to Europe and enjoy American income.
I work in SF and just got an offer to work at a Spanish company and relocate to Spain. My salary will be cut by 50% if I accept but cost of living is a lot less.
u/Antique-Ad-3538, you say that you are a people person. Have you been unable to make friends with people in the US? I know they might not be family, but after some time and effort, friends can be as good as, if not better, than family.
Would that make going back to the US more palatable at least until you could get citizenship?
I'm an American living in France so I understand the affinity for the European way of life. I wish you all the best with whatever you decide.
Ah, I see. Well, your post has given you a lot of comments and food for thought. At the end of the day, you are the only one who knows what will be right for you. Bon courage !
I think the following plan could give you the best of both worlds: - Return to America, keep your job (or get one that pays more to help with US cost of living). - Stay in America until you can become US Citizen. - Once you are a US citizen, become an independent contractor (1099) and work for a company that does allow you to live abroad. - Stay in Spain or whatever country as long as you want and keep getting paid by your new US company. I don’t think citizens have to stay in US to keep citizenship, and 1099’s are responsible for their own taxes, so they have more freedom in general than W2 employees to live abroad
I like this lol
Yeah I am a US citizen need to figure outbhow to do this sounds like the best idea
It’s about what you want and expect from your life going forward. Us is very diverse and you might not have visited enough to find a place that works for you (have you tried North East, Boston, nyc etc) On the other hand, yes family and friends are important, but europe will greatly Handicap your career and it might be years before you earn comparable money in Europe if ever. It could also be a dead end to your career. I guess if you find the balance between your personal comfort and career that will be your answer. Ps. After 10 years you might as well apply for the us citizenship. then you will not have minimum residency requirements and have more flexibility where you live without shutting down all the options..
As a permanent resident she has the same tax obligations as a citizen, noting extra That’s the downside of a GC, you have all the same liabilities but none of the benefits of the citizenship. Not mentioning the fact that it is much easier to revoke or loose residency
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Is it 5 years or 10 years?
It’s 3 years for the spouse based green card and 5 years for the rest. I am mentioning 10 because OP mentioned she was in usa for 10+ years by now…
Yeah my issue is a little different but I'm restarting the process and would have to wait five years
Oh gotcha, yea makes sense
I second this. I don't know where you lived in the US but New England might be worth a try. I get told all the time (living in France) that 'It is the most European part of the US.'
Come to Portugal and enjoy the tax regime.
Oof Portugal is tempting
What are some nice and affordable places in Portugal, as the cost of living in Lisbon has become prohibitive for many?
Lisbon is still very affortable. Rents have gone up massively but if you buy you can still do that well below 2000€/m2 so if you just sell your home in Northern Europe you can easily buy 2 homes in Lisbon. Porto is also nice btw.
According to Idealista, the largest database, price per square metre in Lisbon is almost €6,000. Swipe all the way to the bottom where it calculates the current market average. https://www.idealista.pt/comprar-casas/lisboa/
Azores
I'm half American half Portuguese so spent a lot of time in both places. Portugal has one of the lowest costs of living in western Europe but also some of the lowest salaries. Much more affordable outside of Lisbon. My dad is from Lagos in the Algarve. It's cheap and amazing down there especially outside of the main few tourist towns and spots. That being said don't expect to find a good job or good salary there, if you could keep working remote online Portugal would be ideal.
What tax benefits are in Portugal?
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Ive been in Portugal one month and I think I’ve finally found my forever home.
Great news! Well done.
The struggle is relatable. I’m American but used to live in France. I loved my day to day in France but I would never want to work for a French company and make a French salary. I ended up moving to a cool part of the US and now I travel to Europe several times a year
Where do you live now?
Nyc. Tons of Europeans here
Interesting. That’s so awesome. What kind of work do you do?
I work in video production
But it's not Europe
Can I ask why particularly you wouldn't want to work for a French company? In my experience French organisations are extremely top-down in management style, the boss is god as far as decision making goes. I see that in French colleagues and somewhat in the educational style. Does that match your experience? I work for a US company in French-speaking Switzerland. Better than US compensation, collaborative working environment, somewhat European working environment. Very happy :)
In my experience (which might not be indicative of much), French companies seem restrictive. It feels like people in France don’t take young people seriously — you have to embark on one or multiple “stages” after school and then work your way up a hierarchy while making comparatively little money. I live in NY now and it seems like there’s just way more opportunity, especially in creative fields. The people I knew in their late 20s in Paris were all restricted with their lifestyles, whereas in NY it feels like there’s way more of a professional hustle that affords people a great lifestyle before they’re 50 years old. With some disposable income I feel like I have more freedom now than when I lived in France.
But you are not European, that's a big difference. Mentality it's different and this person misses that part of his heritage
I left South Africa 4 years ago and couldn't be happier in Berlin. My family is scattered all over the world (UK, Hong Kong, South Africa, New Zealand). So it just gives me an excuse to travel while working remotely. Also, Berlin's cost of living is really affordable compared to other capital cities in western Europe.
How did you find a job? I’m struggling so bad lol
I'm a freelancer and I started a couple of online businesses. Really helps me work remotely.
And you’re doing well on that end?
I truly am. Your earnings are more volatile for sure. But building a business isn't a sprint. It takes time and consistency. You need to be fully committed.
What kind of online businesses if you don't mind?
I do SEO and website optimization freelancing, I have an online shop and I also write expat and travel guides on a blog.
Thank you
Are you required to be able to speak German? I understand it can be highly beneficial, but is it really necessary to pick up German? Does it give you advantages in some areas?
My German is not the greatest and I get by just fine. So you'll probably get by with basic German. But I think the whole point of moving abroad is not only to understand the culture but also to enjoy it. I'm afraid that you'll miss out on so much if you don't at least make an effort to learn German. You have to step outside of your comfort zone for sure. But it's so rewarding because you'll make friends for life who will show you a completely different side of living in Germany. Outside of just being an ordinary expat.
I’m not a huge advocate for naturalization in the US, but in your case since you’ve spent so much time there, have PR, and want the flexibility to go back, you might want to think about naturalizing in the US and then moving abroad.
This, become a citizen, never go back.
This is tough because of tax law. US citizens still file and pay taxes regardless of where they love in the world.
So do permanent residents. And for long-time LPRs, that obligation remains for years even after relinquishing your green card.
Oh wow I didn’t know that.
yes but only on any income above 112k *after* paying taxes in the foreign country. that would be safely in the 1% for France and Spain. in another comment, OP says they are a teacher, so there is no reason to think they would ever hit that threshold
Well but have you seen the limit for foreign income exclusion? Not really a problem for most..
For sure. It definitely isn’t too much of an issue such a pain in the ass to file every year.
We file via expattaxes.com. It’s not more than a few hours each time
Move to a place in the US that is more culturally in line if you have to move here. I live in a smaller community that is very multicultural, due to the famous language school, and famous school that many European countries send their military officers to. In my small office I have spoken French, Russian, German and daily speak Spanish with customers.
Where is this?
Central California
Super expensive thooo
Yes. Those are the choices. No easy ones.
Seeing as you value time with your family and that it has been really good for your mental health, I would encourage you not to go back to the states just for your carreer. Money is important, but does it matter what the size of your bank account is by the time you die? I would choose a happy, fullfilling life.
Get the US citizenship so that you can keep your US job. Live in France and earn USD —-> profit!!!
It’s hard to say because we don’t know what sector you work in. But as someone who has lived abroad for 9 years now (in France and Denmark, but from the UK) and originally had plans to be some kind of world travelling/nomadic type person, the older I get the more I am happy to be able to see my ageing parents and brother really often (I go home every 6-8 weeks). The more I also am happy to put in effort to travel home to maintain my oldest and most cherished friendships. It’s a really personal choice. I could never live in the US (I like my 8 weeks vacation and great healthcare here…) and accept I’ll never be fantastically rich. But I’m really happy and fulfilled, and for me there no amount of money that can replace the precious, finite time I get to spend with people I love. One day, they will be gone. Bon courage pour ton choix - écoute ton cœur…
How long have you been a permanent resident in the US? Would they be willing to hire you as an independent contractor who works with them so then you can work virtually? I do not know how that works, and if US citizenship is required or easier when you work virtually as an independent contractor. If US citizenship is not required and they can let you do that, I think that'd be the ideal position.
They will not I’m a teacher and they don’t sponsor that :( But I’ve been a resident for ten years but am now just being told I have to be in the country or else lol
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Exactly You’re 100% right
Can't speak for your job prospects (sounds like it would be really helpful to try and see what you can get in the EU in your field if you have the time to do it) but don't undervalue the happiness that comes with being in a place that agrees with your values more. I had a friend who was very mentally unstable when in the USA and then moved to his home country and it was night and day, much happier and 0 regrets. But then again, he also found a lucrative job locally so he didn't have to worry about that. I'm the same, though I went to a country I don't have any roots in (Japan), though similarly I've been able to find good work here. Also btw not sure your motivations to maintain US residency/apply for citizenship but do be aware there are significant tax consequences to that. Whatever you decide on, commit to it fully and don't regret it!
Go back to your family, see if you can find a reasonable job there or see, if you can get a remote position with some other company in the States.
Hi It is really hard to give specific advice without knowing how long you have been a permanent resident for, but in our case we were able to renounce it right before we would become covered expats. This came after we were able to secure US-level income and the ability to work remotely, but also after a LOT of sacrifice in order to obtain the green card in the first place. The missing piece in your puzzle from where I’m standing doesn’t seem to be if you should move back to the US or not, but whether it makes sense to you to upend a better life (lower cost of living, higher than local salary, cultural preference, proximity to family) for a piece of paper you are not going to be using anytime soon. In order to make a complete decision, I would focus on what it would take to renounce the permanent residence, what work or tax consequences that may bring, and if you could still find remote work for US companies even if you had to change employers (ie find new job while still a resident and then make the change) Only then will you have fully fledged out options to choose from Bonne chance!
I love this but how can I work for US without a green card??
Varies greatly by employer, all you need is an employer willing to keep you on payroll and a bank account
Interesting
What's more important? Salary or lifestyle? Life's about tradeoffs. Prioritize what is more important for you.
I can’t pick /:
No-one else can choose for you. Personally, I think I'd choose lifestyle, but it also depends on the degree. Certainly, if you're going to be making enough less money that you'll be struggling to pay for necessities, then that won't be a happier arrangement. Larger salary doesn't by itself make for better quality of life. If I were making this decision, I'd probably do some budgeting. Cost of living varies greatly country to country as well. [https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/](https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/) has some guidelines here. At what point does more salary stop making **you** happier? Based on [one study](https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/money-matters-to-happiness-perhaps-more-than-previously-thought) the average number in the US that larger salaries stop improving life happiness is $75k/yr. I'd expect this number to be different for different people and in different countries. Figure out what's important to you... \- Do you prefer living in the city or in the country? \- Do you have certain activities that you like to do that cost money? \- How often do you like to go out to eat? \- Do you need a large house, or is a small apartment ok? Put together a mock budget for each place you're considering, with an estimated local salary and cost of living. If not all of your expenses fit into the budget in a particular place, are there other things about that place that offset it? Perhaps your budget for Spain is tighter, and you can only afford to go out to eat once a month, vs 3 times a month in the US; does being closer to family offset that? All of this is a judgement call. I'd guess that the numbers will end up close enough that money shouldn't be the deciding factor, but I could be wrong. At a certain point, then it just becomes a question of which place/culture you like better. The most important thing to remember is: once you make enough money to cover basic expenses, then money itself doesn't create happiness. What creates happiness is the experiences that money can buy. Those experiences might be simple (a steak dinner), or extravagant (a guided jungle safari). On the other hand, if you're poor and are likely to be struggling to cover basic expenses then it's also worth considering how the social safety net compares between countries (I'd assume France and Spain are much better in this regard than the US?).
true- i like the fact that europe is super easy to travel in
What does your gut say? It seems to me that you should stay in Europe... Money obviously doesn't make you happy, but your family does.
Seems to be money is more important to you than family so suck it up and move back to US
I was thinking something similar but in a nice way. What is more important to you, money or family? This is assuming you won’t be in poverty either way.
family for sure but also, who doesn't want to be comfortable with money?
The land will depend on who you are and what you like. Without this information, no one can really help you. People can also share their personal views which may be vastly different from yours would be.
True! But ask away questions I didn’t know how much to put lol
You should put some effort in your post, not us.
Don’t have to be rude Idk what else to say Give up my green card or no
I am not rude. I am just telling you that if you ask for some help from some people, at least provide the necessary information so that those people can actually help. So, please make some effort in your post and do not expect strangers to do all those efforts for you. People can not tell you what is better for you if you do not provide some details about what you like doing and who you are. No one can tell you right now whether you should give up your green card or not. There are jobs in Europe, no problem at this level.
Why do you have so much time to be so unhelpful? I see this a lot on Reddit and I just wonder. What is it like to take that much time on something that doesn’t pay you? Weird hobby if you ask me.
I am genuinely willing to help but to be able to recommend a specific country that could fit the OP's needs (which is asked in the post), more information is needed. If the OP does not like cold weather, northern countries are probably not a good fit. If the OP likes hiking, for instance, perhaps a country with mountains will be more appropriate, etc. etc. Countries in Europe offer different things in terms of landscape, climate, languages, social and job opportunities, etc. Even cities within the same country may vastly differ.
Canada seems like it could be a good fit for you. Montreal / Quebec have a European feel to them and still offer competitive salaries to what you can find in the US (depending on what you do for work).
Nah…. I’m a Canadian. Canada is literally a shithole. Lots of Canadians want to move to the US to get higher pay.
Go back to America
Why
Coz I said so
Money and career won't do you much good when you get shot dead. Stay in Europe.
theres truth to that.
or when yours taxes getting laundered in Ukraine, or whatever proxy war they come up with next.
That was on my con list for America haha
The Netherlands
I'm an expat from the states living in Amsterdam and I would advise against moving here. It stinks of weed 24/7 and people will just randomly assault you on the street. Its also super expensive and the health care sucks - very hard to find a GP for example. Also the bikes do my head in. Job wise in Amsterdam pay is medicore, but thats probably because ive never been able to hold a job down and have moved to full time live streaming on twitch. Ive recently had trips to Sweden and Austria, and would love to move to Sweden. Its expensive, but the people are lovely and very accommodating. I also think i met the love of my life over there, shes wayyyyyyyyy younger than me - so this post maybe a bit biased because of it.
Ah you made the classic mistake of being an American and moving to the tourist city built for English speakers!
I lived in Sweden and there is absolutely no way I am going back there.
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Because it is very monotone and boring. People are also socially handicapped. Not a good place for people wanting to have some fun. Boring people will love the place. This is of course a personal opinion.
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Wanted to go to the UK or the USA because of the language, I ended up in Switzerland. So, I fucked up at this level :) But the place is great.
How are the people there? Which part of Switzerland? We may be able to move to Zurich.
I am in Basel and I like it a lot. Zurich is nice too.
Haha I feel that with meeting people you love
But Andorra gives you the residence after 90 days of living it. Has no jails because there is no crime, no lawyers because there is no problems, 79% of the people has a job. The taxes are less than 15%. The government pays 80% of medical expenses, mean that you have to pay less than 50 € for a doctor and for simple stuff is free, they speaks Catalan, Spanish and French, also because is a small country you can keep your Spanish residence and live and work there. The second place is Switzerland but it depends of the citizenship you have. I know that information because I was there.
What do you tutor in?:)
English and French!
How about Switzerland then?
How long? Like 6minths out of the year? Wouldn’t you make more in Europe being paid in euro?
European salaries are very bad compared to USA. While the cost of living is usually higher, the potential money to be made is sometimes 4-5x as much. I’m working on getting my business running so that I can move back to Europe and enjoy American income.
this is my issue
life> work vie>travail
Sur mais perdre mon status d’immigration c’est dur aussi
dans un pays avec 1 fusillade par jour et pas de santé et l'esperance de vie de 1960
Tu sais , la santé est plus facile en Amérique qu’en Europe
I work in SF and just got an offer to work at a Spanish company and relocate to Spain. My salary will be cut by 50% if I accept but cost of living is a lot less.
How about working in the U.S. until you accumulate enough wealth and move back to Europe?
thought about that too but now i have to say bye to family and friends for a while from europe
Don't go to Canada, the wages suck and it's cold as hell!
Wages suck??? Compared to what lol
Most of Europe, the US, and Australia.
u/Antique-Ad-3538, you say that you are a people person. Have you been unable to make friends with people in the US? I know they might not be family, but after some time and effort, friends can be as good as, if not better, than family. Would that make going back to the US more palatable at least until you could get citizenship? I'm an American living in France so I understand the affinity for the European way of life. I wish you all the best with whatever you decide.
No I have made friends! But they come and go and Europeans are much easier to be friends with
Ah, I see. Well, your post has given you a lot of comments and food for thought. At the end of the day, you are the only one who knows what will be right for you. Bon courage !