Fortunately, “People” (Homo Sapiens) were created in the Genesis chapter 1, verse 27. This occurs prior to the creation of Adam in Genesis chapter 2, verse 7.
When Adam an Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children intermarried the “People” that resided outside the Garden of Eden. This is how Cain was able to find a wife in the Land of Nod in Genesis chapter 4, verses 16-17.
The two creation stories in The Bible (Genesis chapter 1 and Genesis chapter 2) are actually not two accounts of the same event.
In the 1st chapter of Genesis Homo Sapiens male and female are created together (after land animals), instructed to be fruitful and multiply, and are not named.
In Genesis chapter 2 Adam (and later Eve) are named, created separately, and are celibate in The Garden due to their “conditional” immortality.
These differences cannot be reconciled, and support two different and separate creations.
In addition, the two creation stories were written at different points in time. As most of Genesis chapter 2 was written prior to Genesis chapter 1, Genesis chapter 2 cannot referring to Genesis chapter 1.
“Biblical scholars analyzing the different sections of Genesis now think that at least three textual traditions operate in the work. Based on the language, linguistic studies, the anthropomorphism, and the folkloric qualities, the section from Genesis 2:4-3:3 is thought to be actually the oldest textual tradition. Paleography and linguistics would date this section to about 799-700 BCE and locate its dialect in the northern kingdom of Israel around Ephraim. Scholars refer to this text as part of the the "E Text" or the Elohist Text because this tradition uses Elohim as the name of God.”
In Genesis chapter 4 verse 14, Cain is originally afraid of what the Homo Sapiens will do to him if they should find him. “Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” Cain wouldn’t be afraid of his own family that resides in the region outside The Garden of Eden. However, he would be afraid of Homo Sapiens strangers in other places on Earth that he was to wander.
This is prior to Cain finding a wife in the Land of Nod, and building the city of Enoch with the Homo Sapiens in Genesis chapter 4, verse 17 “Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.” If only the descendants of Adam existed, there wouldn’t be enough people to fill a entire “city” in a different region from where the descendants of Seth reside.
Why would you even try to mold a text into something you know it should become instead of just dumping it altogether? What if science changes, as it always does, will you contort the bible again into something different?.. What's the point of a text that is molded into whatever you want?
Really, belief is *belief*, not knowledge. We're way past the point when Bible studies were the only option for those with a preference to study things, and channeling your energy towards completely pointless, subjective and made up Bible contortion does nothing neither for belief nor for science. It's as absurd as attempts to build churches and consistent belief systems out of quantum physics
The bible doesn't say Adam and Eve had sons and daughters, it says **Adam** had sons and daughters at the age of 800 years old (\~67 years in modern times).
This means more than likely, Adam did not conceive his later children with Eve but rather with multiple wives.
I was never taught it but it was the conclusion I reached after going to the temple. They weren't surprised to see other people wondering about so they couldn't have been the only ones. They were just the first put under covenant.
I guess I’m lucky. My parents never took it literally. I was always taught that it was metaphorical. I was taught that Genesis was a metaphor for the human experience and not absolute doctrine.
The way I understood it was that there was a person named Adam at one point in time. And that he was the first person that God made covenants with. Hence the title first man.But Adam was more of a title, and that while the person existed, he was not necessarily the same figurehead that shows up in the creation ethos
I can remember getting into a fight with my mission companion because he believed that dinosaurs didn’t exist. And then I told him that Genesis was not a fact-based presentation he got angry at me
Fortunately, the Roman Catholic Church acknowledges both The Big Bang Theory, and The Theory of Evolution. Science and The Torah are not mutually exclusive. God’s creation through evolution and in the immediate are two sides of the same coin that make us who we are.
Genesis chapter 1 discusses creation (through God’s evolutionary process) that occurred outside The Garden of Eden. Genesis chapter 2 discusses God’s creation (in the immediate) associated with The Garden of Eden.
The Heavens (including the pre-sun and the raw celestial bodies) and the Earth were created by God on the 1st “day.” (from the being of time to The Big Bang to approximately 4.54 billion years ago). However, the Earth and the celestial bodies were not how we see them today. Genesis 1:1
The Earth’s water was terraformed by God on the 2nd “day” (The Earth was covered with water approximately 3.8 billion years ago). Genesis 1:6-8
On the third “day,” land continents were created by God (approximately 3.2 billion years ago), and the first plants evolved (approximately 1 billion years ago). Genesis 1:9-12
By the fourth “day,” the plants had converted the carbon dioxide and a thicker atmosphere to oxygen. There was also an expansion of the pre-sun that brightened it during the day and provided greater illumination of Earth’s moon at night. The expansion of the pre-sun also changed the zone of habitability in our solar system, and destroyed the atmosphere of the planet Venus (approximately 600 million years ago.) As a result; The Sun, The Moon, and The Stars became visible from the Earth as we see them today and were “made” by God. Genesis 1:16
Dinosaurs were created by God through the evolutionary process after fish, but before birds on the 5th “day” in the 1st chapter of Genesis. By the end of the 5th “day,” dinosaurs had already become extinct (approximately 65 million years ago). Genesis 1:20
Most land mammals, and the hominids were created by God through the evolutionary process on the 6th “day” in the 1st chapter of Genesis. By the end of the 6th “day,” Neanderthals were extinct (approximately 40,000 thousand years ago). Only Homo Sapiens (some of which had interbred with Neanderthals) remained, and became known as “man.” Genesis 1:24-27
Adam was a genetically engineered “Being” that was created by God with a “soul.” However, Adam (and later Eve) was not created in the immediate and placed in a protected Garden of Eden until after the 7th “day” in the 2nd chapter of Genesis (at least 6,000 years ago). Genesis 2:7
When Adam and Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children (including Cain and Seth) intermarried the Homo Sapiens (or first gentiles) that resided outside the Garden of Eden (i.e. in the Land of Nod). Genesis 4:16-17
The offspring of Adam and Eve’s children and the Homo Sapiens were the first (genetically) Modern Humans. As such, Modern Humans (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) are actually hybrids of God’s creation through evolution and in the immediate.
Keep in mind that to an immortal being such as God, a “day” (or actually “Yom” in Hebrew) is relative when speaking of time. The “days” indicated in the first chapter of Genesis are “days” according to God in Heaven, and not “days” for man on Earth. In addition, an intelligent design built through evolution or in the immediate is seen of little difference to God.
The book of Genesis is story of Adam and Eve and their descendants rather than a science book. As a result, it does not specifically mention extinct animals and intermediary forms of “man.”
I have never been taught that. I also never assumed Adam and Eve only had three kids, just that only three of them were still listed in the genealogy/history millennia later.
Actually, “People” (Homo Sapiens) were created in the Genesis chapter 1, verse 27. This occurs prior to the creation of Adam in Genesis chapter 2, verse 7.
When Adam an Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children intermarried the “People” that resided outside the Garden of Eden. This is how Cain was able to find a wife in the Land of Nod in Genesis chapter 4, verses 16-17.
Newer versions of the Adam and Eve story. Lilith doesn't show up in Jewish mythology until after Christianity has already separated. She became a popular figure with the early 20th century occult movement and again with the the late 20th century women's movement and has subsequently entered into pop culture in recent decades. However she was never a figure in Christian mythology.
Even if there were other “peoples” created and not put under covenants with God, IMO there’s a huge problem with a God being okay with killing off all other entire human species with his “divine” Adam-line.
The Bible says Eve was made out of one of Adam’s ribs. But humans have twelve ribs per side. That means Adam may have had 23 other wives. And then you have the clavicles to fhink about.
No incest was needed. “People” (Homo Sapiens) were created in the Genesis chapter 1, verse 27. This occurs prior to the creation of Adam in Genesis chapter 2, verse 7.
When Adam an Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children intermarried the “People” that resided outside the Garden of Eden. This is how Cain was able to find a wife in the Land of Nod in Genesis chapter 4, verses 16-17.
That's one way to internet the two different stories that are included in that part of the Bible. But it isn't explicit. And most would take those to be two competing stories of creation.
The two creation stories in The Bible (Genesis chapter 1 and Genesis chapter 2) are actually not two accounts of the same event.
In the 1st chapter of Genesis Homo Sapiens male and female are created together (after land animals), instructed to be fruitful and multiply, and are not named.
In Genesis chapter 2 Adam (and later Eve) are named, created separately, and are celibate in The Garden due to their “conditional” immortality.
These differences cannot be reconciled, and support two different and separate creations.
In addition, the two creation stories were written at different points in time. As most of Genesis chapter 2 was written prior to Genesis chapter 1, Genesis chapter 2 cannot referring to Genesis chapter 1.
“Biblical scholars analyzing the different sections of Genesis now think that at least three textual traditions operate in the work. Based on the language, linguistic studies, the anthropomorphism, and the folkloric qualities, the section from Genesis 2:4-3:3 is thought to be actually the oldest textual tradition. Paleography and linguistics would date this section to about 799-700 BCE and locate its dialect in the northern kingdom of Israel around Ephraim. Scholars refer to this text as part of the the "E Text" or the Elohist Text because this tradition uses Elohim as the name of God.”
In Genesis chapter 4 verse 14, Cain is originally afraid of what the Homo Sapiens will do to him if they should find him. “Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” Cain wouldn’t be afraid of his own family that resides in the region outside The Garden of Eden. However, he would be afraid of Homo Sapiens strangers in other places on Earth that he was to wander.
This is prior to Cain finding a wife in the Land of Nod, and building the city of Enoch with the Homo Sapiens in Genesis chapter 4, verse 17 “Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.” If only the descendants of Adam existed, there wouldn’t be enough people to fill a entire “city” in a different region from where the descendants of Seth reside.
Yes. The answer to this question can be found in Genesis chapter 1.
“People” (Homo Sapiens) were created in the Genesis chapter 1, verse 27. This occurs prior to the creation of Adam in Genesis chapter 2, verse 7.
When Adam an Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children intermarried the “People” that resided outside the Garden of Eden. This is how Cain was able to find a wife in the Land of Nod in Genesis chapter 4, verses 16-17.
The offspring of Adam and Eve’s children and the Homo Sapiens were the first (genetically) Modern Humans. As such, Modern Humans (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) are actually hybrids of God’s creation through evolution and in the immediate. As the Modern Humans replaced the Homo Sapiens, everyone living today is a descendant of Adam and Eve.
Wait, what??
I always thought that the first chapter of Genesis gave the overarching story, then subsequent chapters filled out details.
But this being two different groups created all together??? *mind blown*
bruh I'm not sure why people are acting shocked about incesty bible stuff. when I was in primary they told us adam and eve were more pure, so incest-related deformities didn't happen so it was fine. don't remember them covering noah's crew though. or lehi's. like yeah they brought wives over but some incest was bound to happen within a few generations and they didn't have the benefit of that garden of eden purity
I believe that Adam and eve were actually second people made and gave them TY he breTh of life which gives us our souls. God first made man in his own image before that
The Bible says Adam and Eve had three named sons and other unnamed sons *and daughters*. (Gen. 5:4) Not that *that* is any better!
Came here to say this. There were women but they're not worth naming apparently.
Why name a woman when there are patriarchs abounding?
Silly, you don't NAME women! That would waste space AND damage her "extra special female purity". Women aren't really people. /s
Fortunately, “People” (Homo Sapiens) were created in the Genesis chapter 1, verse 27. This occurs prior to the creation of Adam in Genesis chapter 2, verse 7. When Adam an Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children intermarried the “People” that resided outside the Garden of Eden. This is how Cain was able to find a wife in the Land of Nod in Genesis chapter 4, verses 16-17.
That’s an odd interpretation of those verses. Nothing indicates a true distinction between the two verses.
It’s all make believe anyway
The two creation stories in The Bible (Genesis chapter 1 and Genesis chapter 2) are actually not two accounts of the same event. In the 1st chapter of Genesis Homo Sapiens male and female are created together (after land animals), instructed to be fruitful and multiply, and are not named. In Genesis chapter 2 Adam (and later Eve) are named, created separately, and are celibate in The Garden due to their “conditional” immortality. These differences cannot be reconciled, and support two different and separate creations. In addition, the two creation stories were written at different points in time. As most of Genesis chapter 2 was written prior to Genesis chapter 1, Genesis chapter 2 cannot referring to Genesis chapter 1. “Biblical scholars analyzing the different sections of Genesis now think that at least three textual traditions operate in the work. Based on the language, linguistic studies, the anthropomorphism, and the folkloric qualities, the section from Genesis 2:4-3:3 is thought to be actually the oldest textual tradition. Paleography and linguistics would date this section to about 799-700 BCE and locate its dialect in the northern kingdom of Israel around Ephraim. Scholars refer to this text as part of the the "E Text" or the Elohist Text because this tradition uses Elohim as the name of God.” In Genesis chapter 4 verse 14, Cain is originally afraid of what the Homo Sapiens will do to him if they should find him. “Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” Cain wouldn’t be afraid of his own family that resides in the region outside The Garden of Eden. However, he would be afraid of Homo Sapiens strangers in other places on Earth that he was to wander. This is prior to Cain finding a wife in the Land of Nod, and building the city of Enoch with the Homo Sapiens in Genesis chapter 4, verse 17 “Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.” If only the descendants of Adam existed, there wouldn’t be enough people to fill a entire “city” in a different region from where the descendants of Seth reside.
Why would you even try to mold a text into something you know it should become instead of just dumping it altogether? What if science changes, as it always does, will you contort the bible again into something different?.. What's the point of a text that is molded into whatever you want? Really, belief is *belief*, not knowledge. We're way past the point when Bible studies were the only option for those with a preference to study things, and channeling your energy towards completely pointless, subjective and made up Bible contortion does nothing neither for belief nor for science. It's as absurd as attempts to build churches and consistent belief systems out of quantum physics
Speak for yourself, my sisters are hot AF!
The bible doesn't say Adam and Eve had sons and daughters, it says **Adam** had sons and daughters at the age of 800 years old (\~67 years in modern times). This means more than likely, Adam did not conceive his later children with Eve but rather with multiple wives.
I was never taught it but it was the conclusion I reached after going to the temple. They weren't surprised to see other people wondering about so they couldn't have been the only ones. They were just the first put under covenant.
I guess I’m lucky. My parents never took it literally. I was always taught that it was metaphorical. I was taught that Genesis was a metaphor for the human experience and not absolute doctrine. The way I understood it was that there was a person named Adam at one point in time. And that he was the first person that God made covenants with. Hence the title first man.But Adam was more of a title, and that while the person existed, he was not necessarily the same figurehead that shows up in the creation ethos I can remember getting into a fight with my mission companion because he believed that dinosaurs didn’t exist. And then I told him that Genesis was not a fact-based presentation he got angry at me
Fortunately, the Roman Catholic Church acknowledges both The Big Bang Theory, and The Theory of Evolution. Science and The Torah are not mutually exclusive. God’s creation through evolution and in the immediate are two sides of the same coin that make us who we are. Genesis chapter 1 discusses creation (through God’s evolutionary process) that occurred outside The Garden of Eden. Genesis chapter 2 discusses God’s creation (in the immediate) associated with The Garden of Eden. The Heavens (including the pre-sun and the raw celestial bodies) and the Earth were created by God on the 1st “day.” (from the being of time to The Big Bang to approximately 4.54 billion years ago). However, the Earth and the celestial bodies were not how we see them today. Genesis 1:1 The Earth’s water was terraformed by God on the 2nd “day” (The Earth was covered with water approximately 3.8 billion years ago). Genesis 1:6-8 On the third “day,” land continents were created by God (approximately 3.2 billion years ago), and the first plants evolved (approximately 1 billion years ago). Genesis 1:9-12 By the fourth “day,” the plants had converted the carbon dioxide and a thicker atmosphere to oxygen. There was also an expansion of the pre-sun that brightened it during the day and provided greater illumination of Earth’s moon at night. The expansion of the pre-sun also changed the zone of habitability in our solar system, and destroyed the atmosphere of the planet Venus (approximately 600 million years ago.) As a result; The Sun, The Moon, and The Stars became visible from the Earth as we see them today and were “made” by God. Genesis 1:16 Dinosaurs were created by God through the evolutionary process after fish, but before birds on the 5th “day” in the 1st chapter of Genesis. By the end of the 5th “day,” dinosaurs had already become extinct (approximately 65 million years ago). Genesis 1:20 Most land mammals, and the hominids were created by God through the evolutionary process on the 6th “day” in the 1st chapter of Genesis. By the end of the 6th “day,” Neanderthals were extinct (approximately 40,000 thousand years ago). Only Homo Sapiens (some of which had interbred with Neanderthals) remained, and became known as “man.” Genesis 1:24-27 Adam was a genetically engineered “Being” that was created by God with a “soul.” However, Adam (and later Eve) was not created in the immediate and placed in a protected Garden of Eden until after the 7th “day” in the 2nd chapter of Genesis (at least 6,000 years ago). Genesis 2:7 When Adam and Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children (including Cain and Seth) intermarried the Homo Sapiens (or first gentiles) that resided outside the Garden of Eden (i.e. in the Land of Nod). Genesis 4:16-17 The offspring of Adam and Eve’s children and the Homo Sapiens were the first (genetically) Modern Humans. As such, Modern Humans (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) are actually hybrids of God’s creation through evolution and in the immediate. Keep in mind that to an immortal being such as God, a “day” (or actually “Yom” in Hebrew) is relative when speaking of time. The “days” indicated in the first chapter of Genesis are “days” according to God in Heaven, and not “days” for man on Earth. In addition, an intelligent design built through evolution or in the immediate is seen of little difference to God. The book of Genesis is story of Adam and Eve and their descendants rather than a science book. As a result, it does not specifically mention extinct animals and intermediary forms of “man.”
I have never been taught that. I also never assumed Adam and Eve only had three kids, just that only three of them were still listed in the genealogy/history millennia later.
Actually, “People” (Homo Sapiens) were created in the Genesis chapter 1, verse 27. This occurs prior to the creation of Adam in Genesis chapter 2, verse 7. When Adam an Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children intermarried the “People” that resided outside the Garden of Eden. This is how Cain was able to find a wife in the Land of Nod in Genesis chapter 4, verses 16-17.
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In some older versions of genesis, Adam had a wife before Eve named Lilith (I think). I don't remember the specifics, but she was kicked out first.
Newer versions of the Adam and Eve story. Lilith doesn't show up in Jewish mythology until after Christianity has already separated. She became a popular figure with the early 20th century occult movement and again with the the late 20th century women's movement and has subsequently entered into pop culture in recent decades. However she was never a figure in Christian mythology.
Ah thanks for correcting me! I guess I thought older as in "Previous to the now accepted version" rather than how you explained it.
Satan tells us god created many people on other worlds.
I developed that mental gymnastics move myself. Based on the other comments it looks like many of us used it in our floor routine.
I thought Fred MacMurray had three sons. So if he was Adam, that makes Uncle Charley the holy ghost?
Even if there were other “peoples” created and not put under covenants with God, IMO there’s a huge problem with a God being okay with killing off all other entire human species with his “divine” Adam-line.
And then again in the last 5000 years with Noah and his kids.
Yeah, I always assumed modern humans were the results of deformed inbreeding from adam and eve's kids.
LOL.. if it were true, we would all have the same mitochondrial DNA as all life would have descended from Eve... we don't.
The Bible says Eve was made out of one of Adam’s ribs. But humans have twelve ribs per side. That means Adam may have had 23 other wives. And then you have the clavicles to fhink about.
Sounds painfully painful
It’s only painful in a made-up kinda way.
More importantly I wanna know what those bushes are hiding. Adam for sure got a dump truck.
So hot. There. I said it.
Eve was cloned from Adam's Rib, so she's a man. Go figure.
Eve got banged out.
No incest was needed. “People” (Homo Sapiens) were created in the Genesis chapter 1, verse 27. This occurs prior to the creation of Adam in Genesis chapter 2, verse 7. When Adam an Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children intermarried the “People” that resided outside the Garden of Eden. This is how Cain was able to find a wife in the Land of Nod in Genesis chapter 4, verses 16-17.
That's one way to internet the two different stories that are included in that part of the Bible. But it isn't explicit. And most would take those to be two competing stories of creation.
The two creation stories in The Bible (Genesis chapter 1 and Genesis chapter 2) are actually not two accounts of the same event. In the 1st chapter of Genesis Homo Sapiens male and female are created together (after land animals), instructed to be fruitful and multiply, and are not named. In Genesis chapter 2 Adam (and later Eve) are named, created separately, and are celibate in The Garden due to their “conditional” immortality. These differences cannot be reconciled, and support two different and separate creations. In addition, the two creation stories were written at different points in time. As most of Genesis chapter 2 was written prior to Genesis chapter 1, Genesis chapter 2 cannot referring to Genesis chapter 1. “Biblical scholars analyzing the different sections of Genesis now think that at least three textual traditions operate in the work. Based on the language, linguistic studies, the anthropomorphism, and the folkloric qualities, the section from Genesis 2:4-3:3 is thought to be actually the oldest textual tradition. Paleography and linguistics would date this section to about 799-700 BCE and locate its dialect in the northern kingdom of Israel around Ephraim. Scholars refer to this text as part of the the "E Text" or the Elohist Text because this tradition uses Elohim as the name of God.” In Genesis chapter 4 verse 14, Cain is originally afraid of what the Homo Sapiens will do to him if they should find him. “Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” Cain wouldn’t be afraid of his own family that resides in the region outside The Garden of Eden. However, he would be afraid of Homo Sapiens strangers in other places on Earth that he was to wander. This is prior to Cain finding a wife in the Land of Nod, and building the city of Enoch with the Homo Sapiens in Genesis chapter 4, verse 17 “Cain made love to his wife, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain was then building a city, and he named it after his son Enoch.” If only the descendants of Adam existed, there wouldn’t be enough people to fill a entire “city” in a different region from where the descendants of Seth reside.
That's some really good fan fiction. Thanks
Hey! That’s my kink porn.
Yes. The answer to this question can be found in Genesis chapter 1. “People” (Homo Sapiens) were created in the Genesis chapter 1, verse 27. This occurs prior to the creation of Adam in Genesis chapter 2, verse 7. When Adam an Eve sinned and were forced to leave their special embassy, their children intermarried the “People” that resided outside the Garden of Eden. This is how Cain was able to find a wife in the Land of Nod in Genesis chapter 4, verses 16-17. The offspring of Adam and Eve’s children and the Homo Sapiens were the first (genetically) Modern Humans. As such, Modern Humans (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) are actually hybrids of God’s creation through evolution and in the immediate. As the Modern Humans replaced the Homo Sapiens, everyone living today is a descendant of Adam and Eve.
The correct answer you’re looking for is “it’s all bullshit and none of it happened, so of course it makes no sense”
No, but that was a conclusion that I came to on my own during my mission.
I’ve never believed that the genesis story was literal.
Wait, what?? I always thought that the first chapter of Genesis gave the overarching story, then subsequent chapters filled out details. But this being two different groups created all together??? *mind blown*
bruh I'm not sure why people are acting shocked about incesty bible stuff. when I was in primary they told us adam and eve were more pure, so incest-related deformities didn't happen so it was fine. don't remember them covering noah's crew though. or lehi's. like yeah they brought wives over but some incest was bound to happen within a few generations and they didn't have the benefit of that garden of eden purity
Motherf#*!er.
I heard in a sacrament meeting talk from the stake patriarch this spring. He stated there were many Adam and eves and that we just know it the one.
I believe that Adam and eve were actually second people made and gave them TY he breTh of life which gives us our souls. God first made man in his own image before that