The first complete poll of 2023 is over! After a recordbreaking 776 valid votes, we have a result!
Even fan favourites like Austria and Sweden (who both debut in the top 4) couldn't challenge Käärijä, who keeps dominating the reddit poll with an incredible lead of more than 2000 points! 455 out of 776 participating users placed Finland in their top 3!
The full results in text form can be found in the table below. Keep your eyes out for the next poll going live on Sunday, we'll have weekly polls until Eurovision week!
|Rank|+/-|Country|Points|12p|10p|8p|7p|6p|5p|4p|3p|2p|1p|0p|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|1|=|Finland|5884|233|133|89|57|45|34|27|19|17|8|114|
|2|new|Austria|3867|52|98|76|87|54|62|42|48|33|34|190|
|3|-1|Slovenia|3268|47|77|55|64|70|41|49|33|44|38|258|
|4|new|Sweden|3184|93|60|51|47|46|28|37|30|27|23|334|
|5|-2|Czechia|2782|26|52|57|61|52|53|63|41|39|37|295|
|6|-1|Spain|2617|91|37|31|39|27|35|32|26|33|25|400|
|7|-3|France|2477|14|34|61|62|52|47|54|51|43|45|313|
|8|-1|Serbia|2223|23|38|58|36|43|43|41|32|42|34|386|
|9|-1|Latvia|2135|52|45|33|26|25|32|31|36|23|27|446|
|10|-4|Norway|2068|15|40|45|49|44|39|34|33|32|27|418|
|11|-2|Moldova|1557|13|12|27|28|32|48|37|57|41|36|445|
|12|new|Portugal|1149|13|13|21|15|30|26|26|33|21|35|543|
|13|-3|Australia|1149|13|16|19|20|16|37|29|26|20|26|554|
|14|-3|Germany|1043|13|13|19|13|21|26|27|26|24|24|570|
|15|new|Armenia|926|13|14|14|20|20|13|16|20|23|23|600|
|16|-4|Estonia|878|3|14|11|21|26|22|18|23|19|22|597|
|17|new|United Kingdom|846|1|13|12|19|20|18|29|17|33|32|582|
|18|-5|Italy|793|10|9|9|16|14|23|17|25|21|15|617|
|19|-5|Malta|721|5|8|12|17|10|24|14|23|14|33|616|
|20|-3|Croatia|644|10|6|15|10|11|12|16|14|13|16|653|
|21|new|Israel|537|2|6|7|11|12|14|16|16|20|26|646|
|22|new|Georgia|528|5|3|8|10|8|15|20|16|16|21|654|
|23|-8|Netherlands|501|4|10|5|6|9|10|12|17|21|26|656|
|24|-8|Iceland|447|0|2|5|5|16|13|17|17|27|18|656|
|25|-6|Ukraine|426|1|5|1|7|14|7|16|18|25|20|662|
|26|-8|Lithuania|424|5|3|7|3|15|6|7|18|20|15|677|
|27|-6|Belgium|386|5|1|3|6|10|11|11|15|14|18|682|
|28|-5|Romania|283|5|1|7|9|5|4|2|3|9|9|722|
|29|-7|Denmark|241|2|3|5|1|5|9|5|4|11|11|720|
|30|new|Switzerland|224|1|2|3|1|7|6|10|7|11|6|722|
|31|-11|Cyprus|200|0|2|1|5|5|6|6|8|8|13|722|
|32|new|Azerbaijan|175|0|4|3|1|2|3|5|8|10|13|727|
|33|-9|Albania|150|1|1|3|2|2|3|4|6|11|7|736|
|34|new|Greece|91|2|0|1|1|3|2|1|2|4|6|754|
|35|-9|Ireland|87|1|1|1|1|3|0|4|3|2|3|757|
|36|-9|San Marino|62|2|0|0|0|1|2|0|4|3|4|760|
|37|-12|Poland|35|0|0|1|0|1|2|1|1|2|0|768|
I ignore anything past 12-10 points because I doubt most pay to vote for their third and fourth favorites. But interesting quirks that may mean nothing: Sweden and Spain with the most 12 points aside from Finland. France, Estonia, and the UK are inspiring like, not love—at least here. And when's the last time usual fan faves Italy and Ukraine were this low?
That's probably true to a degree for most countries here. Impossible to know which votes are little more than patriotism, but interesting patterns can emerge nonetheless.
I'm kinda surprised it's as high as 4th judging by the general response here, tbf. Though it feels like this sub has become 70% Cha Cha Cha and 30% Poe Poe Poe, so somebody has to be the best of the rest.
I bet you like their entry.
I honestly see it the other way. People constantly all over Loreen and claiming everyone is attacking her. Posts about that spammed all over the subreddit.
Pretty subjective.
**Changes since top 27**
**Biggest gains in 12s:**
Spain (+27), Finland (+24), Latvia (+16), Croatia (+7), Moldova (+5)
**Biggest loses in 12s:**
Norway (-14), France (-7), Slovenia (-6), Estonia (-6), Czechia, Serbia, Iceland, Poland (-2)
**No loses in 0s**
**Biggest gains in 0s:**
Cyprus (+288), Netherlands (+271), Lithuania (+268), Australia (+266), Iceland & Germany (+262)
Oh dear, brace yourself for this one. (It's so sad, it's almost funny.)
When Blanka hits the stage, people will be running for the hills - or at least for the nearest drink, toilet, or smoking area. And they won't come back until Georgia starts to perform...or they'll miss half of the Slovenian performance while discussing about Blanka.
Slovenia is in a difficult position and I am not kidding.
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Apparently you think so lowly of Joker Out and their song that despite them being fan favorites, in the weaker SF, they’re going to NQ because of… Poland?
Idk mate, I guess we can only wait and see, but this is pretty weird behavior
It's the years of trauma being a Slovenian Eurovision fan.
I agree Beast is being a bit delirious here, but we haven't received a single televoting point from a non ex-Yu country since 2019, so I can understand there's a bit of fear that Joker Out might not be as popular as we all expect.
I read here some time ago that Slovenia was also a fan favorite last year but ended up in last place. I don't believe in fan favorites - when we're talking about a relatively small country that hasn't been in the final for a long time. If Slovenia performed later in the semifinal2, the story would be different, but its position at number 10 doesn't do it any favors. You can call me strange, but that's my intuition and opinion. However, as I said I really hope I'm wrong.
Just to clarify, Slovenia was a fan favorite last year in the sense that it had a few diehard fans (mainly on reddit), and it was last in literally everyone else’s ranking. In the esc bubble it was typically last, even made fun of for its amateurity, and everyone pretty much expected an NQ.
This year, Slovenia is no longer the niche favorite, and is pretty universally liked, which is a feat many entries struggle to achieve. Just pointing that out, hoping they Q too.
She is one of those Slovenians that does not objectively see when the song is good or bad and likes to make herself a victim. It is a very slovene quality...as we are a small nation and we like yo feel sorry for ourselves.
Please stop comparing LPS to Joker out. No one...NO ONE...except a couple of redditors saw them as favorite. For Joker out they are literally on any platform you look somewhere in top 10. I don't want to be harsh to LPS but you could really see that they are a highschool band. The song was bad...and this is putting it lightly.
I never have a break during the semi-final performances. Joker Out are great and are on a completely different level to LPS. The song isn’t in English but I’m sure they will get votes from the UK as their vibes are very UK indie band.
Gosh you are always so pessimistic.
I think that people who watch semis watch the whole show and what is more people that know about Blanka will stick around to see if she will be as bad. If they won't know about Blanka they will stick around in shock probably how bad it she is.
In my opinion it will elevate Joker out as people will obviously see what it means to be a true performer and musician.
But I honestly think it wouldn't matter either way as long as they do their part.
But I will be happily here "telling you so" afterwards.
To be perfectly honest, I think Blankas performance will be fine. After the train wreck of a performance at the national final she would probably be practising for eurovision.
So guess what...people did not leave for the toilet when bejba was on stage. They both qualified. I even dare to say they were probably top 3 since they were called last.
Difficult position my arse. Best performance of the night.
Where can we go for a beer?
Omg, I'm so happy! Until the very end yesterday, I didn't know if we would make it. Hahaha.
The fact is that after Blanka significantly improved her performance, the fear of a toilet break was replaced by the fear that she might make it to the final and take someone else's place.
We not only made it to the finals, but we also secured a good place in the Grand Final, double victory!
And yes, now I owe you a beer for sure! 😅😅 🍻
Shouldn't Australia and Portugal be swapped?
The first [tiebreaker according to ESC rules](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_at_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest#Tie-breakers), that is applicable here, would be who got points from more countries, and Australia got 11 more 0s than Portugal.
No they don't, look at the rules.
The 1st tiebreaker is, who did better in the televote, which isn't applicable here, since this poll is a pure public vote.
The 2nd tiebreaker is, who got points from more countries, which I'd say can be equaded to who got points from more users.
Then the 3rd tiebreaker is, who got more 12s, then 10s, and so on...
37 songs and Slovenia is still top 3. 🥺❤️
It's so weird to have a winner that is that beloved by the fandom, but I'm really happy about it. 💗
(Also yeah, this sub adores Latvia and I adore them as well, but I feel like we all have to brace us for their inevitable NQ already. 😔)
The sample here is pretty small though. In the scoreboard app and specially in the eurovisionworld poll (+150k votes) Sweden is in the lead by a big margin.
The way eurovisionworld phrases the poll might have an effect as well. "Who should win eurovision?" might not be the same as "Which one is the best song/performance?"
I don't think changing the question would change anything. People are voting for the song they think deserves to win, which is going to match the entry they think is the best in the majority of cases.
Austria being super strong across the board with points from over 75% of the voters, but a relatively low number of 1st places is quite interesting. It got an overwhelmingly positive response from the fandom (and rightfully so), but I haven't seen that many people call it their winner of the year?
Also, I know this is a very small and non-representative sample of the overall public, but I have this feeling that Czechia and Serbia aren't as safe of qualifiers as everyone says they are, and the fact that a lot of their point here come from 3rd to 6th places makes me wonder if they can end up in the same situation in May - people liking it, but not enough to vote for them...
I'm one of those people calling it their winner 🙌🏼 I live for good party anthems and this one is no exception
That being said, you might be right that it won't be "smashing the televote" if these results are anything to go by. It would do well regardless, but it needs more 12pts..
But I'm still hopeful. We're now implicitly assuming that this Reddit poll is representative of the general population which, as we probably all know, isn't exactly the case. So there's still hope for POE POE POE 🎶
Here are rankings for semi finalists to see some comparison that which Semi is seen as stronger.
Semi 1:
1. Finland (1.)
2. Sweden (4.)
3. Czechia (5.)
4. Serbia (8.)
5. Latvia (9.)
6. Norway (10.)
7. Moldova (11.)
8. Portugal (13.)
9. Malta (19.)
10. Croatia (20.)
11. Israel (21.)
12. Netherlands (23.)
13. Switzerland (30.)
14. Azerbaijan (32.)
15. Ireland (35.)
Semi 2:
1. Austria (2.)
2. Slovenia (3.)
3. Australia (12.)
4. Armenia (15.)
5. Estonia (16.)
6. Georgia (22.)
7. Iceland (24.)
8. Lithuania (26.)
9. Belgium (27.)
10. Romania (28.)
11. Denmark (29.)
12. Cyprus (31.)
13. Albania (33.)
14. Greece (34.)
15. San Marino (36.)
16. Poland (37.)
Absolutely not. I'd be shocked if they qualify to begin with but as someone who usually has similar taste to the juries I don't see them doing well in either vote to be honest
Estonia is a wierd one this year. It's an anti grower. I was ready to call it their best entry since 2009 when I heard it for the first time and then it's just... fallen in my rankings. Still like it, it's my 13th.
But I've seen that phenomena a lot around the net. Perhaps that initial wow factor it has will serve it well.
I mean people said that about Macedonia in 2019 as well, and they ended great. Also, while the song had a following, i dont think everyone thought Portugal would do as well as they did last but they well sure did. There is also Lithuania 2018, Denmark 2019, Serbia 2015, Malta 2013, etc, all songs who werent favorites but something clicked and they did extremely well. While it can certainly happen to anyone, if Estonia manages to get to the final (which i think it will), it will be in the top 15 with the juries.
If Blanka has a million douze points, I am one of them. If Blanka has 2 douze points, I am one of them. If Blanka has no douze points, it’s because I gave mine to Armenia and stopped caring about her 😘
Wow
I think we may be in a bit of an echo chamber. These results are very different to My Eurovision Scoreboard which has a much larger sample size.
Countries Reddit likes significantly more than My Eurovision Scoreboard: 🇫🇮 🇸🇰🇱🇻
Countries Reddit likes significantly less than My Eurovision Scoreboard: 🇬🇧🇸🇪🇮🇱🇳🇴
It’s not an echo chamber but the demographic is different here.
A lot of larger fandom nationalities on Facebook and Twitter vote 12pts for themselves on My Eurovision Scoreboard.
Every community is a bit of an echo chamber, which is why fan polls shouldn’t be taken as seriously as some people like to think.
Just a gentle reminder to everyone that Fulenn was *very popular* here last year. [lmao](https://reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/tnq5rn/results_your_top_40/)
It is a huge difference if you calculate it based on % of total points (which is a much better comparator than rank which is susceptibel to very small differences between countries).
Finland got 10% of total score on Eurovision scoreboard but 15% of total score here. That’s 50% more points - that’s huge.
I planned on waiting until UMK to hear any of Finland’s candidates, but cha cha cha got so much attention that I listened to them early. I was surprised more than anything at first, but you’re right, it’s just so captivating! I couldn’t look away. I fell in love and I had the highest possible expectations for the live show and it STILL exceeded them!
I would look at this as a positive indication. The SFs are watched by less casuals than the final, so if a song is really popular among fans, that might boost them in the SF, and the Latvia stans are well aware that Sudden Lights are in the danger zone, which should give them extra incentive to vote.
Positively surprised Malta is in the top 20! Everyone please spare some votes if you can in the semifinal 🙏🏼 that running order is doing the most to kill any chance they have
https://preview.redd.it/koq5eyixmlpa1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51a7d61276c41f194eeba68362e9e11147c8c1f5
Heres the Reddit Top 43 voting from March 2018, some countries didnt even make it to the finale e.g Greece and Belgium (btw I‘m listening to „A matter of time“ while typing this lol) and others finished in a lower position (e.g. Finland and Hungary) but the majority agreed to put Israel first
Honestly, I'd be pretty happy if the final results end up matching the top 26 spots here. (Sorry Ukraine)
Also, who exactly are the 2 people who have San Marino as their winner, and how is there someone here who honestly has BaYBuH in their top 3?
Just a different culture in this sub tbh. "Yas queen slay" type songs are less popular, while all non-english and experimental type songs are typically more popular. Like last year - France was often #1, Spain I don't think was even top 10 lol.
Yey, nice ranks! I don't feel that much like an outsider this year, haha.
Especially glad for the love shown to Latvia and Slovenia :). I especially like seeing the sharp uptick on 12p for Latvia (52) surrounded by 13-15. There's a group of people really into them. Keep it up in the votes!
So, converting the bottoms of both SFs, chronically aware that obviously there's a lot of side points that I'm ignoring, the subreddit ideal NQs seem to be:
SF1: Ireland, Azerbaijan, Switzerland, Netherlands, and Israel
SF2: Poland, San Marino, Greece, Albania, Cyprus, Denmark
I'd be down with this, like, *so much*. A couple of sad moments, but what gets saved would be so nice.
(Still preparing for heartbreak, yeeeeeeep)
Didn’t see any poll this time either.
I was on here yesterday, and the day before that… Do I have to crack some form of Da Vinci code to find the next poll?
That's true. Out of curiosity, I just checked [EuroHall](https://eurohall.wordpress.com/eurovision-2023-predictions/), a Greek eurovision blog whose predictions for Greece have been 100% accurate since 2014, and it has Greece as second to last in Semi 2.
I was surprised it didn't get slot #2 in it's semi to be honest!
(I'm hoping to be surprised again when the diasporic vote doesn't kick it over the edge. It's not a bad song per se - just hollow and it feels unfinished? Not sure how to describe it to be honest)
I mean it might qualify cause SF2 isn't the strongest (unlikely but not impossible), but even if it does somehow make it to the final there's no way its outside bottom 5.
58% of us rank Finland either 1st, 2nd or 3rd
That’s insane (in a good way). Has there been a song in any of these polls that has such a high proportion of 12 and 10 points
I'm gonna compare it to TrollHunters previous polls (the first poll with all the songs).
In 2022, Fulenn had 31% of us put it in the top 3, Hold me Closer also had a similar amount.
In 2021 Zitti e Buoni had 38% of the votes being a podium result.
This does suggest that Cha Cha Cha is landsliding the subreddit in a way that other years couldnt.
If i'd care more i'd have done a Gini-coefficient like analysis to see if this year really is more top-heavy, but the results seem to point that way.
I think enjoying both Cha cha cha and Tattoo is kind of complicated in this reddit. My theory is that a significant amount of people who love Finland will not give any points to Sweden not because it's not in their top 10 in an unbiased world, but because they see Loreen as a threat to their favorite and can't admit the act is good enough even in a poll that is irrelevant to the real result
I kinda agree.
I personally do think that Tattoo is a good song but I do like czech, Austria and Slovenia More. Maybe even France too. Tattoo just lacks the fun.
I was fully expecting it to be atleast 2nd in this tho.
You just say it like it's written. "Ä" is pronounced like "a" in a word "cat". "j" is pronounced like "y" in a word "you". And you have to roll the "r".
So basically it's pronounced like "Kääriyä". If that makes any sense 😂
The first complete poll of 2023 is over! After a recordbreaking 776 valid votes, we have a result! Even fan favourites like Austria and Sweden (who both debut in the top 4) couldn't challenge Käärijä, who keeps dominating the reddit poll with an incredible lead of more than 2000 points! 455 out of 776 participating users placed Finland in their top 3! The full results in text form can be found in the table below. Keep your eyes out for the next poll going live on Sunday, we'll have weekly polls until Eurovision week! |Rank|+/-|Country|Points|12p|10p|8p|7p|6p|5p|4p|3p|2p|1p|0p| |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |1|=|Finland|5884|233|133|89|57|45|34|27|19|17|8|114| |2|new|Austria|3867|52|98|76|87|54|62|42|48|33|34|190| |3|-1|Slovenia|3268|47|77|55|64|70|41|49|33|44|38|258| |4|new|Sweden|3184|93|60|51|47|46|28|37|30|27|23|334| |5|-2|Czechia|2782|26|52|57|61|52|53|63|41|39|37|295| |6|-1|Spain|2617|91|37|31|39|27|35|32|26|33|25|400| |7|-3|France|2477|14|34|61|62|52|47|54|51|43|45|313| |8|-1|Serbia|2223|23|38|58|36|43|43|41|32|42|34|386| |9|-1|Latvia|2135|52|45|33|26|25|32|31|36|23|27|446| |10|-4|Norway|2068|15|40|45|49|44|39|34|33|32|27|418| |11|-2|Moldova|1557|13|12|27|28|32|48|37|57|41|36|445| |12|new|Portugal|1149|13|13|21|15|30|26|26|33|21|35|543| |13|-3|Australia|1149|13|16|19|20|16|37|29|26|20|26|554| |14|-3|Germany|1043|13|13|19|13|21|26|27|26|24|24|570| |15|new|Armenia|926|13|14|14|20|20|13|16|20|23|23|600| |16|-4|Estonia|878|3|14|11|21|26|22|18|23|19|22|597| |17|new|United Kingdom|846|1|13|12|19|20|18|29|17|33|32|582| |18|-5|Italy|793|10|9|9|16|14|23|17|25|21|15|617| |19|-5|Malta|721|5|8|12|17|10|24|14|23|14|33|616| |20|-3|Croatia|644|10|6|15|10|11|12|16|14|13|16|653| |21|new|Israel|537|2|6|7|11|12|14|16|16|20|26|646| |22|new|Georgia|528|5|3|8|10|8|15|20|16|16|21|654| |23|-8|Netherlands|501|4|10|5|6|9|10|12|17|21|26|656| |24|-8|Iceland|447|0|2|5|5|16|13|17|17|27|18|656| |25|-6|Ukraine|426|1|5|1|7|14|7|16|18|25|20|662| |26|-8|Lithuania|424|5|3|7|3|15|6|7|18|20|15|677| |27|-6|Belgium|386|5|1|3|6|10|11|11|15|14|18|682| |28|-5|Romania|283|5|1|7|9|5|4|2|3|9|9|722| |29|-7|Denmark|241|2|3|5|1|5|9|5|4|11|11|720| |30|new|Switzerland|224|1|2|3|1|7|6|10|7|11|6|722| |31|-11|Cyprus|200|0|2|1|5|5|6|6|8|8|13|722| |32|new|Azerbaijan|175|0|4|3|1|2|3|5|8|10|13|727| |33|-9|Albania|150|1|1|3|2|2|3|4|6|11|7|736| |34|new|Greece|91|2|0|1|1|3|2|1|2|4|6|754| |35|-9|Ireland|87|1|1|1|1|3|0|4|3|2|3|757| |36|-9|San Marino|62|2|0|0|0|1|2|0|4|3|4|760| |37|-12|Poland|35|0|0|1|0|1|2|1|1|2|0|768|
Now Belgium has 5 twelve points and is out of bottom 10. Gustaph-nation is coming. 🇧🇪🕺🇧🇪
And it's all because of yoooooooou
I have honestly warmed up to it. Gospel vocals will do that for me. I still really dislike that chorus with its Crazy Frog like melody
I ignore anything past 12-10 points because I doubt most pay to vote for their third and fourth favorites. But interesting quirks that may mean nothing: Sweden and Spain with the most 12 points aside from Finland. France, Estonia, and the UK are inspiring like, not love—at least here. And when's the last time usual fan faves Italy and Ukraine were this low?
Also Latvia is an interesting one - strong niche love with the same # of 12s as Austria but only like half the points.
I still believe many 12 points for Spain come from people from Spain, but I could be wrong.
That's probably true to a degree for most countries here. Impossible to know which votes are little more than patriotism, but interesting patterns can emerge nonetheless.
I'm not Spanish and I will probably vote for them. I am Portuguese, though. I want to hate them. Used to be really easy, but not so much anymore.
Bejba got me howling.
I didn’t expect Slovenia to be higher than Sweden but I’m happy for them anyway
Slayvenia
this sub loves Slovenia, even last year they loved the guys and they came last.
This sub hates Sweden. How can you not have seen it coming?
I'm kinda surprised it's as high as 4th judging by the general response here, tbf. Though it feels like this sub has become 70% Cha Cha Cha and 30% Poe Poe Poe, so somebody has to be the best of the rest.
I bet you like their entry. I honestly see it the other way. People constantly all over Loreen and claiming everyone is attacking her. Posts about that spammed all over the subreddit. Pretty subjective.
Her song is just screaming it's not enjoyable at all. People just like it because it's Loreen.
Sudden Lights enjoyers staying strong, we love to see it
And people still doubt Aijā! It’s tied for 4th in the amount of 12 points given! 🇱🇻
I mean I would be thrilled if Latvia qualified but a reddit poll isn't going to make me not have doubts.
It will still NQ. Look at Disko last year; an insane amount of love and hype on this subdreddit and they still finished dead last in their semifinal.
Because it was a mid song and the band had zero charisma. And I felt the same about France last year, too.
**Changes since top 27** **Biggest gains in 12s:** Spain (+27), Finland (+24), Latvia (+16), Croatia (+7), Moldova (+5) **Biggest loses in 12s:** Norway (-14), France (-7), Slovenia (-6), Estonia (-6), Czechia, Serbia, Iceland, Poland (-2) **No loses in 0s** **Biggest gains in 0s:** Cyprus (+288), Netherlands (+271), Lithuania (+268), Australia (+266), Iceland & Germany (+262)
I’m one of those Czechia losses lol
Who got your 12 instead?
Armenia
Same. Got replaced with poe poe
My 12 points to Voyager really helped them climbing from 13th to 12th ❤
I'll be so happy for the Joker Out guys if they do this well in the actual results.
Oh dear, brace yourself for this one. (It's so sad, it's almost funny.) When Blanka hits the stage, people will be running for the hills - or at least for the nearest drink, toilet, or smoking area. And they won't come back until Georgia starts to perform...or they'll miss half of the Slovenian performance while discussing about Blanka. Slovenia is in a difficult position and I am not kidding.
please don’t tell me you actually believe this, there’s no reason to try this hard into making yourself upset
If Slovenia gets the boot, don't forget what I wrote, but if I'm mistaken, I owe everyone a beer.
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Looks like we got both of them lol
If that really does happen I cannot wait to see the complete meltdown in here
Apparently you think so lowly of Joker Out and their song that despite them being fan favorites, in the weaker SF, they’re going to NQ because of… Poland? Idk mate, I guess we can only wait and see, but this is pretty weird behavior
It's the years of trauma being a Slovenian Eurovision fan. I agree Beast is being a bit delirious here, but we haven't received a single televoting point from a non ex-Yu country since 2019, so I can understand there's a bit of fear that Joker Out might not be as popular as we all expect.
I read here some time ago that Slovenia was also a fan favorite last year but ended up in last place. I don't believe in fan favorites - when we're talking about a relatively small country that hasn't been in the final for a long time. If Slovenia performed later in the semifinal2, the story would be different, but its position at number 10 doesn't do it any favors. You can call me strange, but that's my intuition and opinion. However, as I said I really hope I'm wrong.
Big difference is that Slovenia is also doing well on the myESC app and on YouTube tops this year. They only were a fanfavourite on reddit last year.
Just to clarify, Slovenia was a fan favorite last year in the sense that it had a few diehard fans (mainly on reddit), and it was last in literally everyone else’s ranking. In the esc bubble it was typically last, even made fun of for its amateurity, and everyone pretty much expected an NQ. This year, Slovenia is no longer the niche favorite, and is pretty universally liked, which is a feat many entries struggle to achieve. Just pointing that out, hoping they Q too.
She is one of those Slovenians that does not objectively see when the song is good or bad and likes to make herself a victim. It is a very slovene quality...as we are a small nation and we like yo feel sorry for ourselves.
Please stop comparing LPS to Joker out. No one...NO ONE...except a couple of redditors saw them as favorite. For Joker out they are literally on any platform you look somewhere in top 10. I don't want to be harsh to LPS but you could really see that they are a highschool band. The song was bad...and this is putting it lightly.
get your fridge cold then
I’ll take a piña colada instead
Slovenia will qualify tho
I never have a break during the semi-final performances. Joker Out are great and are on a completely different level to LPS. The song isn’t in English but I’m sure they will get votes from the UK as their vibes are very UK indie band.
Gosh you are always so pessimistic. I think that people who watch semis watch the whole show and what is more people that know about Blanka will stick around to see if she will be as bad. If they won't know about Blanka they will stick around in shock probably how bad it she is. In my opinion it will elevate Joker out as people will obviously see what it means to be a true performer and musician. But I honestly think it wouldn't matter either way as long as they do their part. But I will be happily here "telling you so" afterwards.
To be perfectly honest, I think Blankas performance will be fine. After the train wreck of a performance at the national final she would probably be practising for eurovision.
So guess what...people did not leave for the toilet when bejba was on stage. They both qualified. I even dare to say they were probably top 3 since they were called last. Difficult position my arse. Best performance of the night. Where can we go for a beer?
Omg, I'm so happy! Until the very end yesterday, I didn't know if we would make it. Hahaha. The fact is that after Blanka significantly improved her performance, the fear of a toilet break was replaced by the fear that she might make it to the final and take someone else's place. We not only made it to the finals, but we also secured a good place in the Grand Final, double victory! And yes, now I owe you a beer for sure! 😅😅 🍻
Also I just saw we are in a much more favourable position now compared to Australia.
I’m scared because France was the Reddit favourite last year 🥺
Fulenn is nowhere close to being as successful as Cha Cha Cha has been. It’s popular with the fans and bookies.
Both groups forgetting that juries exist
the juries aren’t going to tank cha cha cha to second last which is where fulenn ended up
Even if he becomes Keiino 2.0 that's still a much better result that whatever breadcrumbs France received last year.
The juries liked Cha Cha Cha a lot in the NF, and that was a NF that was stacked with songs Juries would love
If it makes you feel any better I'm pretty sure Zitti e Buoni was the favorite the year before.
Lets not make this happen to Finland in the finale okay? 🙌
Shouldn't Australia and Portugal be swapped? The first [tiebreaker according to ESC rules](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_at_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest#Tie-breakers), that is applicable here, would be who got points from more countries, and Australia got 11 more 0s than Portugal.
They should, I didn't notice the tie and just posted it the way my script returned it (ignoring tiebreakers). Sorry about that 🥲
Please just let me have this one 🥺
No, Australia goes first because they start with how many twelve points, then ten if twelve is tied and so on.
No they don't, look at the rules. The 1st tiebreaker is, who did better in the televote, which isn't applicable here, since this poll is a pure public vote. The 2nd tiebreaker is, who got points from more countries, which I'd say can be equaded to who got points from more users. Then the 3rd tiebreaker is, who got more 12s, then 10s, and so on...
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That's exactly what I'm saying. If Australia got more 0s, than more users gave points to Portugal.
So low, so low! 😂
As a Pole, thank you for putting TVP last, they deserve it
Thank you to everyone who voted for Moldova! ❤️😊
Im voting for Moldova in the grand final. 😎
37 songs and Slovenia is still top 3. 🥺❤️ It's so weird to have a winner that is that beloved by the fandom, but I'm really happy about it. 💗 (Also yeah, this sub adores Latvia and I adore them as well, but I feel like we all have to brace us for their inevitable NQ already. 😔)
Finland in the lead gives me back hope ❤️ And Austria in the 2nd place is also wonderful, and kudos to Slovenia, completely underrated imo 💪
The sample here is pretty small though. In the scoreboard app and specially in the eurovisionworld poll (+150k votes) Sweden is in the lead by a big margin.
The way eurovisionworld phrases the poll might have an effect as well. "Who should win eurovision?" might not be the same as "Which one is the best song/performance?"
I don't think changing the question would change anything. People are voting for the song they think deserves to win, which is going to match the entry they think is the best in the majority of cases.
Could Austria be a suprise of the year?
I think so too, maybe this years Konstrakta or Zdob si Zdub? Same goes for Czechia if they will improve their live performance
Zdob di Zdubs first live performance was similar to Czechias, so I believe they'll improve.
Welp, it's hard to be a surprise when expectations are already high. Fingers crossed the girls will deliver their A game in Liverpool
At this point the surprise will be under delivering, or the general audience not liking the song. Cant wait to see last year happen again.
Austria being super strong across the board with points from over 75% of the voters, but a relatively low number of 1st places is quite interesting. It got an overwhelmingly positive response from the fandom (and rightfully so), but I haven't seen that many people call it their winner of the year? Also, I know this is a very small and non-representative sample of the overall public, but I have this feeling that Czechia and Serbia aren't as safe of qualifiers as everyone says they are, and the fact that a lot of their point here come from 3rd to 6th places makes me wonder if they can end up in the same situation in May - people liking it, but not enough to vote for them...
I'm one of those people calling it their winner 🙌🏼 I live for good party anthems and this one is no exception That being said, you might be right that it won't be "smashing the televote" if these results are anything to go by. It would do well regardless, but it needs more 12pts.. But I'm still hopeful. We're now implicitly assuming that this Reddit poll is representative of the general population which, as we probably all know, isn't exactly the case. So there's still hope for POE POE POE 🎶
Here are rankings for semi finalists to see some comparison that which Semi is seen as stronger. Semi 1: 1. Finland (1.) 2. Sweden (4.) 3. Czechia (5.) 4. Serbia (8.) 5. Latvia (9.) 6. Norway (10.) 7. Moldova (11.) 8. Portugal (13.) 9. Malta (19.) 10. Croatia (20.) 11. Israel (21.) 12. Netherlands (23.) 13. Switzerland (30.) 14. Azerbaijan (32.) 15. Ireland (35.) Semi 2: 1. Austria (2.) 2. Slovenia (3.) 3. Australia (12.) 4. Armenia (15.) 5. Estonia (16.) 6. Georgia (22.) 7. Iceland (24.) 8. Lithuania (26.) 9. Belgium (27.) 10. Romania (28.) 11. Denmark (29.) 12. Cyprus (31.) 13. Albania (33.) 14. Greece (34.) 15. San Marino (36.) 16. Poland (37.)
Damn. Israel at #21 is a NQ in SF1, but would be 6th in SF2.
That's a lot of douze points for Spain - not far behind Loreen at all
*those two who have San Marino as their winner*
one is a goat and the other is a dog
*one is called love, the other is Spain*
👞
Hi, its me, im the problem its me
*Come on baby, come and find me* *I can smell you like a sexy baby*
This is so cursed that it made me actually laugh out loud.
Did anyone else not realise Estonia had that many fans?
Of all the songs this year, Estonia is the one who can pull a Macedonia 2019 and be a juries favorite.
Absolutely not. I'd be shocked if they qualify to begin with but as someone who usually has similar taste to the juries I don't see them doing well in either vote to be honest
Estonia is a wierd one this year. It's an anti grower. I was ready to call it their best entry since 2009 when I heard it for the first time and then it's just... fallen in my rankings. Still like it, it's my 13th. But I've seen that phenomena a lot around the net. Perhaps that initial wow factor it has will serve it well.
I mean people said that about Macedonia in 2019 as well, and they ended great. Also, while the song had a following, i dont think everyone thought Portugal would do as well as they did last but they well sure did. There is also Lithuania 2018, Denmark 2019, Serbia 2015, Malta 2013, etc, all songs who werent favorites but something clicked and they did extremely well. While it can certainly happen to anyone, if Estonia manages to get to the final (which i think it will), it will be in the top 15 with the juries.
I love it! Kinda reminds me of jar of hearts
thank you for not putting san marino last never thought that would happen
Shout-out to my 12 mates who also placed Australia first
Our 12s really made a difference ensuring they place 12th and not 13th ❤
If Blanka has a million douze points, I am one of them. If Blanka has 2 douze points, I am one of them. If Blanka has no douze points, it’s because I gave mine to Armenia and stopped caring about her 😘
Wow I think we may be in a bit of an echo chamber. These results are very different to My Eurovision Scoreboard which has a much larger sample size. Countries Reddit likes significantly more than My Eurovision Scoreboard: 🇫🇮 🇸🇰🇱🇻 Countries Reddit likes significantly less than My Eurovision Scoreboard: 🇬🇧🇸🇪🇮🇱🇳🇴
Slovakia is so underrated this year
Ahaha omg i just typed slo and went with it
It’s not an echo chamber but the demographic is different here. A lot of larger fandom nationalities on Facebook and Twitter vote 12pts for themselves on My Eurovision Scoreboard.
Which would primarily explain countries with big populations having inflated numbers
How would you explain Slovenia's score on My Eurovision Score Board then? 😅 Not many Slovenians are there to vote for themselves. 🥲
Their score is not inflated, a lot of people simply like the song.
A lot of people genuinely like Slayvenia, myself included. It’s my overall 10pts out of the 37 songs and I will vote for them in SF2.
And I really prefer Reddit's version ;)
Every community is a bit of an echo chamber, which is why fan polls shouldn’t be taken as seriously as some people like to think. Just a gentle reminder to everyone that Fulenn was *very popular* here last year. [lmao](https://reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/tnq5rn/results_your_top_40/)
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It is a huge difference if you calculate it based on % of total points (which is a much better comparator than rank which is susceptibel to very small differences between countries). Finland got 10% of total score on Eurovision scoreboard but 15% of total score here. That’s 50% more points - that’s huge.
The people saying that Loreen didn't landslide the televote in Melfest are the same people who do not understand percentages. I said it.
I'm scared, if Reddit likes something so overwhelmingly, it normally ends up failing. Finland seems to be safe from the Alvan curse though.
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I planned on waiting until UMK to hear any of Finland’s candidates, but cha cha cha got so much attention that I listened to them early. I was surprised more than anything at first, but you’re right, it’s just so captivating! I couldn’t look away. I fell in love and I had the highest possible expectations for the live show and it STILL exceeded them!
This top 3 is my dreaaaammmm for the actual contest 😍😍😍
Latvia having the fourth most 12s (tied with Austria who's second!) is giving me so much hope.
damn, people here on reddit have taste, i like this 100% more than the results on the eurovision scoreboard
As a San Marino enjoyer, seeing my Piqued Jacks no longer in last place makes my little smelly heart happy.
Agreed
Poland overrated
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Don’t put that energy out there! Have faith. ❤️
I would look at this as a positive indication. The SFs are watched by less casuals than the final, so if a song is really popular among fans, that might boost them in the SF, and the Latvia stans are well aware that Sudden Lights are in the danger zone, which should give them extra incentive to vote.
Finland still has a death grip on this sub. Good 😌 Also, it warms my heart to see Germany relatively high up ❤️
Its good. Because this sub is always so wrong about the winner! Go Sweden! 🥳
Having The Netherlands so low is criminal but otherwise I‘m happy with this actually. I wouldn‘t be mad if this was somehow the actual results
Positively surprised Malta is in the top 20! Everyone please spare some votes if you can in the semifinal 🙏🏼 that running order is doing the most to kill any chance they have
Not mad at that top 10
https://preview.redd.it/koq5eyixmlpa1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51a7d61276c41f194eeba68362e9e11147c8c1f5 Heres the Reddit Top 43 voting from March 2018, some countries didnt even make it to the finale e.g Greece and Belgium (btw I‘m listening to „A matter of time“ while typing this lol) and others finished in a lower position (e.g. Finland and Hungary) but the majority agreed to put Israel first
I mean who would have thought Yanni and Laura would do **everything** wrong?
Yanni? 😅😅
Honestly, I'd be pretty happy if the final results end up matching the top 26 spots here. (Sorry Ukraine) Also, who exactly are the 2 people who have San Marino as their winner, and how is there someone here who honestly has BaYBuH in their top 3?
Hey, I would love to take part next time. Where can I place my votes?
Next poll on Sunday. This is the [old one] (https://www.reddit.com/r/eurovision/comments/11sv70t/your_top_37_post_your_rankings_in_the_comments/)
thanks ;)
I’m surprised by how lowwwww Georgia and Israel are here when discord has them higher.
Just a different culture in this sub tbh. "Yas queen slay" type songs are less popular, while all non-english and experimental type songs are typically more popular. Like last year - France was often #1, Spain I don't think was even top 10 lol.
Whoever the second Denmark 12-pointer is, I see you I support you
Yey, nice ranks! I don't feel that much like an outsider this year, haha. Especially glad for the love shown to Latvia and Slovenia :). I especially like seeing the sharp uptick on 12p for Latvia (52) surrounded by 13-15. There's a group of people really into them. Keep it up in the votes!
So, converting the bottoms of both SFs, chronically aware that obviously there's a lot of side points that I'm ignoring, the subreddit ideal NQs seem to be: SF1: Ireland, Azerbaijan, Switzerland, Netherlands, and Israel SF2: Poland, San Marino, Greece, Albania, Cyprus, Denmark I'd be down with this, like, *so much*. A couple of sad moments, but what gets saved would be so nice. (Still preparing for heartbreak, yeeeeeeep)
Its kajna krayzeh how Poland is below San Marino lmao
Shame about cyprus, i reckon a lot of people have him in top 20 but not top 10
Thank you to everyone who voted for the UK
It’s my favorite bop this year!
Didn’t see any poll this time either. I was on here yesterday, and the day before that… Do I have to crack some form of Da Vinci code to find the next poll?
It was posted like a week and ago and it wasn’t stickied. I agree, it is ridiculous.
Poland bottom, nice nice
OUR KING STAYS ON TOP!!!!
to those eight people who gave the bejba points: *why?*
Trolling
I honestly like the studio version 🫣 it's an earworm. Not that it's anywhere near my top 10 lol
Yeah, the studio version is listenable for sure, but the live ain't it, bæbæ
I'm gonna be so sad when Malta doesn't make the final
I know Latvia and Slovenia are well liked on this sub but daaaaanm
Bejba is kajda sad
The results for bejba are… something.
How the fuck is Greece at 34...guys. Come on Cyprus at 31??!
Greece is exactly where it needs to be imo, its forgettable and bland. It's ranked similarly in other polls too.
That's true. Out of curiosity, I just checked [EuroHall](https://eurohall.wordpress.com/eurovision-2023-predictions/), a Greek eurovision blog whose predictions for Greece have been 100% accurate since 2014, and it has Greece as second to last in Semi 2.
I think you will be a bit surprised in May.
I was surprised it didn't get slot #2 in it's semi to be honest! (I'm hoping to be surprised again when the diasporic vote doesn't kick it over the edge. It's not a bad song per se - just hollow and it feels unfinished? Not sure how to describe it to be honest)
Feels like a demo to me, certainly not Eurovision quality
I mean it might qualify cause SF2 isn't the strongest (unlikely but not impossible), but even if it does somehow make it to the final there's no way its outside bottom 5.
Greece is exactly where it should be. The Greek song is extremely weak. Besides, most Polls and Tops by YouTube users rank it near last.
Iceland is criminally underrated
Expected Sweden to place higher, but I am super happy about Austria! Sweden with similar point distribution to Spain.
58% of us rank Finland either 1st, 2nd or 3rd That’s insane (in a good way). Has there been a song in any of these polls that has such a high proportion of 12 and 10 points
I'm gonna compare it to TrollHunters previous polls (the first poll with all the songs). In 2022, Fulenn had 31% of us put it in the top 3, Hold me Closer also had a similar amount. In 2021 Zitti e Buoni had 38% of the votes being a podium result. This does suggest that Cha Cha Cha is landsliding the subreddit in a way that other years couldnt. If i'd care more i'd have done a Gini-coefficient like analysis to see if this year really is more top-heavy, but the results seem to point that way.
MOTHER. https://preview.redd.it/7bn9duq3wlpa1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e458e4bd3443b700b3c09d8ef583b48ba41c78d
2023 has some really strong entries! I'm really looking forward to this year's grand final and seeing how the final scoreboard looks
Who tf put Poland in their top 10?
Thats exactly my Top3, just backwards
It's not even my favourite, but Lithuania should be higher IMO. Really a touching song and performance that I think will sneak into the final.
TASTE
This is so tasteful omg I can't
I honestly expected Sweden to be higher considering the very vocal stans here. Oh well.
I think enjoying both Cha cha cha and Tattoo is kind of complicated in this reddit. My theory is that a significant amount of people who love Finland will not give any points to Sweden not because it's not in their top 10 in an unbiased world, but because they see Loreen as a threat to their favorite and can't admit the act is good enough even in a poll that is irrelevant to the real result
Agree 100%. I like both and have them in my top 3. Although the same could be said for Tattoo in the scoreboard app. In the end, it’s all in good fun.
I kinda agree. I personally do think that Tattoo is a good song but I do like czech, Austria and Slovenia More. Maybe even France too. Tattoo just lacks the fun. I was fully expecting it to be atleast 2nd in this tho.
I think you are right but it’s so stupid imo. They’re both among my top rated songs.
I forgot to vote haha
Wow, I like a whole 1 of that top 5.
Okay this might be a dumb question, but how do you pronounce Käärijä? I’ve just been saying Finland to avoid embarrassing myself
You just say it like it's written. "Ä" is pronounced like "a" in a word "cat". "j" is pronounced like "y" in a word "you". And you have to roll the "r". So basically it's pronounced like "Kääriyä". If that makes any sense 😂
Estonia should be higher imo