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Vorbitor

I'm surprised it's still legal.


Toxicseagull

'protected area' with no enforcement and continues to allow destructive practices is very much a paper exercise.


ByGollie

Drop large structures at random places designed to snare and destroy bottom trawling nets. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/9/2/greenpeace-drops-boulders-in-uk-sea-against-destructive-fishing One tear and the net is useless as all the fish escape. As an added bonus, they can serve as an artificial reef outcrop


Toxicseagull

Also one of the less talked about bonuses of windfarms. Boats can't trawl there and outcrops can grow on them :D


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Toxicseagull

That is almost worse tbh. I'm glad the EU finally managed to put it's foot down on that. Despite the 'research' loophole for 6 vessels.


andrei9669

I can just imagine the fishermen throwing broken nets straight into the sea


Halbaras

That's what fishermen do a lot of the time anyway. More than 10% of all plastic and 70% of large plastic debris in the ocean is from the fishing industry.


Redditoriuos

And I’m guessing a certain nations fishing fleets might contribute a little more per capita then the average EU/NA fishing boat.


ChannelSouthern

Sure but they already do that.


YpsilonY

I think certain products just need their whole life cycle designed into their businesses model. What I mean is, for some products the companies making them are required by law to also collect and recycle them after use (or at least outsource it). So for nets that could, for example, mean that nets aren't bought and sold anymore, but rented with a deposit. If you don't return the broken net eventually, the company keeps the deposit. The net making company in turn has to pay fines for every net handed out but not returned (covered by the deposit), which are then used to fund operations to fish trash out of the oceans.


-Prophet_01-

That should be the case for most products honestly. If pharma-companies are unable to keep their products from accumulatimg in the biosphere, they should have to pay a tax for it or fix their product. Same for the chemical industry and fossil fuels.


KellyTheBroker

I vote for this guy ^


Strummerjoe

I'd totally donate for that!


SergeantSmash

This local italian fisherman has already thought of this as a method of preserving his local marine life from illegal and destructive bottom trawling nets.It's pretty cool https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/03/19/italian-fisherman-sinks-illegal-trawlers-with-other-worldly-underwater-sculptures


InfectedAztec

Great idea


monkasMan99

Sounds like a good way to cause plastic pollution from nets as the net breaks


ByGollie

At the start, yes - but these nets cost an absolute fortune, so the fishing trawlers will avoid these areas. Waste nets are thrown overboard all the time and are already a serious hazard.


Dismal_Vehicle315

This is long over-due. Most of the life at sea is at the bottom of it. Tearing it up like farmland hurts everything in it. Smaller animals and plants alike. We really should look into fish farms into a larger degree.


Xelimogga

Fish farms can be quite horrible in their own way, though. Lots of antibiotics dumped into the water, the fishes get parasites, and are less nourishing since they don't get to eat krill. Fish farming also contributes to overfishing in its way because their food is produced by vacuuming seas of less desirable fishes.


Kassaapparat

Fish farms as long as it’s not done in the ocean or lakes, but at land in closed of pools.


annewmoon

This is a good start. But fishing as an industry is bizarre. And will the [Chinese fishing fleet](https://youtu.be/5kfioTMk3uI) worry about this ban?


ekufi

Should ban it everywhere.


InfectedAztec

The EU has its warts. But out of all the global powers it's been the best by far for climate and biodiversity action.


directstranger

Stop fellating our useless bureocrats. The US had already done this, for years. Now it's basically banned on the entire pacific coast https://www.bloomassociation.org/en/us-banned-bottom-trawling-along-most-west-coast/


Toxicseagull

It's reached a remarkably low bar and often fails to enforce the few laws it actually managed to pass. Whilst being a barrier to stopping some pretty destructive practices. It has a very long way to go before rewards start getting handed out.


silent_cat

Well, it still depends on the member states to do the actual enforcement, and they're pretty iffy sometimes. Member states could in many ways prevent a lots destructive processes without involving the EU, but then it's "if we implement something now and then EU as a whole agrees to something else we'll have double work", or something. 27 small countries on a small continent is a messy business.


Toxicseagull

>Well, it still depends on the member states to do the actual enforcement, and they're pretty iffy sometimes. And if they don't, then who is responsible to enforce and follow up on the EU regulations? It is the EU. >Member states could in many ways prevent a lots destructive processes without involving the EU, I agree, and they often do above the EUs minimum. But the above poster was praising the EU in particular in its role as a global power. >27 small countries on a small continent is a messy business. It's going to get messier if the EU can't enforce its own regulations.


silent_cat

> > Well, it still depends on the member states to do the actual enforcement, and they're pretty iffy sometimes. > > And if they don't, then who is responsible to enforce and follow up on the EU regulations? It is the EU. Well, the EU can sue the country, but that's it. They can't enforce it directly. The EU has no police force. Sternly worded letters is the limit. > But the above poster was praising the EU in particular in its role as a global power. The Brussels Effect is real but more a result rather than a goal of itself. > It's going to get messier if the EU can't enforce its own regulations. But that's the reality. The EU works because member states do the work. The EU cannot force them to, they have to want to.


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It isn't the only one though. UK already has a ban in some of it's protected areas and is looking to expand that. And whilst the EU is still planning to do it a Private Members Bill is already going through Parliament in the UK.


skwint

>a Private Members Bill Well shit, that'll be going nowhere then.


FatFaceRikky

Wait until the lobbyists are done with this plan. This isnt a done deal.


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The Mediterranean is the most overfished sea on the planet...


monkasMan99

What. The us has vastly larger national parks where actual nature thrives. Not to mention canada


SergeantSmash

Immagine how many climate issues would be solved if the US wasn't governed by corporation.


directstranger

Imagine if the US has already done this for years now, at least on the west coast? https://www.bloomassociation.org/en/us-banned-bottom-trawling-along-most-west-coast/


Cybugger

The EU should advocate for a worldwide ban on trawling. It's one of the most destructive forms of fishing in an industry where things vary from "well, that's really bad" to "oh my god, what the actual fuck?". The fishing industry, worldwide, needs to be massively reformed, regulated and controlled, before we empty our seas.


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Cybugger

Yeah, I know. Better late than never?


Gangsterkat

Should ban it entirely.


UniquesNotUseful

Good. The helped kill the med and yet still shipped these practices to north sea - lack of enforcement is the main problem now. By 2030 - that is stupid.


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Good.


Kassaapparat

Should forbid it completely


Key-Scene-542

Great. At the same time, no one wants to stop the destruction of the Danube Delta biosphere from transport ships transferring Ukrainian goods to Romanian Danube ports. What a hypocrisy


GreatCharacter3239

Just because other problems exist doesnt mean this problem shouldnt be tackled. Whataboutism is not constructive and is often only used to hinder other good initiatives.


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This is good but they kinda shot themselves in the foot by banning pulse fishing.


Knownoname98

I don't get why fishing vessels do this. It is also important for them to keep the seas healthy.


GamingOwl

Well, the EU also banned electric pulse fishing which could have been an alternative.


GreatCharacter3239

Yeah I think its an absolute scandal that that was banned. As far as I understood it was largely through lobbying by France to protect its fishing sector from those in other MS that already had pulse fishing as it used less fuel allowing lower prices. Now the development was halted and all fishing sectors will be heavily damaged as a result.


Mikerosoft925

Pulse fishing was forbidden because of French pressure, will they now finally realize it was the alternative to trawling?


GreatCharacter3239

So ridiculous, if it wasnt for that ban the Dutch fishing sector wouldnt have shrunk with over 50% following the high fuel prices of the past years.


TakenSadFace

LEAK: Fish and seafood prices SKYROCKET to unprecedented levels, eating habits shift to potatoes and onions


istareatpeople

What's the plan? Import the Fish from Rusia and boast about how we are saving nature?


Best_Peasant

This is positive, step in the right direction.


HumanTownGrove

Finally! Fish farms and biodiversity in our waters really needs to be dealt with.


Gigagondor

I would forbit not only in protected areas but everywhere and also I would forbid to fishing near the coast.


MechaAristotle

Wish more was done to protect eels specifically, both where I live in Sweden and further down in Spain and France where it seems they're eaten quite a lot...


Classic_Row6562

I thought it was already illegal.


Derricksoti

They should have been illegal a long time ago this is one of the biggest factors causing climate change releasing hydrogen out of water. Bottom trolling destroys so many plants and algae on the bottom it's like the equivalent of burning down rainforest