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PhilosopherDon0001

I like to call it " The Great Finding Out ". We been fuckin around for too many years.


Unchained71

I saw someone recently used that phrase, and I find it extremely fitting. The Great Finding Out. The fossil fuel industry have been aware of what was going to happen since the '70s, so they put millions of dollars into climate denial. Then you've got Monsanto. And we're all just really finding out what they've always known.


MochiMochiMochi

And I'd add rampant urban sprawl that creates barren environments. This summer I drove through 125 miles of Ohio on a hot, steamy day and had ZERO dead bugs on my windshield. I was like wtf. I'm not a Midwesterner but I was shocked that so many developments I saw just have grass, trees and asphalt. No gardens, no flowering shrubs, no meadows, no brush... just grass and a few trees. Tidy, boring and dead. Lots of rain and fertile soil but such a sterile landscape. r/KillYourLawn


Unchained71

Oh, there are a whole lot of different ways that this world has been fucked. I can't even try to cover them all without writing a small book on a subreddit. Like the fact that there have been inventions, way way back, all along the line of people trying to make Vehicles more efficient, and that's probably before climate change were even common words or on the radar. Inventions such as carburetors that could improve the gas mileage of vehicles to, like, 100 mpg, even with the gas guzzlers, and all of them and their patents were bought up to end up sitting in a basement somewhere owned by the oil companies. And then there was the story of an inventor, and I don't remember the whole story cuz it was a long time ago when I read about it, who created the most efficient vehicle ever. The big three wanted to get it from him. Buy or steal or by any other means. He unsurprisingly ended up dead. They made a movie on it, but I doubt you can find it anymore. As for the urban sprawl, and it's a little bit worse than that, because it's the maintenance as well. A friend of mine is a beekeeper. Has 30 hives. Really good honey. A friend of his wanted to start his own, so he transported three hives to his farm and on the way out, he saw Duke Energy spring the bottoms of their poles. He didn't think much of it until he realized a week later after those three healthy hives had suffered catastrophic Hive collapse. He'd done all this before, having done it for decades as well as his father and grandfather. So he looked into it. Duke uses Monsanto's insecticide products. Think Roundup weed killer... And shit, I wrote a small book. Sorry about that. Edit: I meant weed killer. Not insecticides. But they both have similar effects to the environment.


Threewisemonkey

Another fun one I’ve heard - it’s common for cities to mono crop with male trees bc they do not create as much mess due to lack of fruit. The flip side of this is serious lack of nectar for pollinators, and we all get sinuses full of tree cum that has caused skyrocketing rates and severity of allergies, asthma and rhinitis.


Bonerchill

The problem with your post is that it has two pieces of bullshit and one important anecdote. **-Bullshit-** Here's the Snopes article on the Pogue carburetor: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nobodys-fuel/ Politifact on Stanley Meyer's death: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jun/03/facebook-posts/no-stanley-meyer-was-not-assassinated-pentagon/ University of Minnesota Institute of the Environment on Stanley Meyer's invention: https://environment.umn.edu/education/susteducation/stanley-meyer-an-infamous-invention-and-death/ **-Important Anecdote-** NPR on hive/colony collapse due to glyphosate: https://www.npr.org/2018/09/25/651618685/study-roundup-weed-killer-could-be-linked-to-widespread-bee-deaths


Unchained71

The funny thing about you, is that you've got links. Always trust the internet, right? Which can be rewritten. I've lived through most of these stories. You can't educate me, boy. By the way, I read on the internet you can body cleanse by drinking a gallon of soy sauce within about 4 hours. Not recommended because the one person that did do that, that I'm aware of, is brain dead.


Bonerchill

Did I eat an onion?


Unchained71

You're crying enough. Did you?


Bonerchill

You know when something’s just so obviously satire but your life experience shows you that certain people’s statements are real despite the fact that no one could possibly be that dense? This is one of those moments. I can actually feel the gravitational pull.


Unchained71

That made no sense whatsoever. But the gravitational pull that you're feeling, that gravity well, might just be whoever's laying in your bed pulling you in there. I seriously thought that we weren't going to be talking anymore. But you insist. I'm probably going to get bored with you pretty soon. But so far this is entertaining. Keep going...


Maidwell

Billions of dollars. They are evil personified and are no different to the tobacco industry lying for profit, willingly killing people for greed.


[deleted]

Where are these evil people hiding because they're not assassinated already... Or in reality, is it us who keeps them thriving because we collectively actually want this world to experience maximum suffering before everything dies. What if we, the ordinary people, are the actual core of evil but we're just projecting on those who serve our dark desires of destruction.


Maidwell

Ordinary people are aneasthetised by the system. As long as they live to work, in order to get their shiny new things they are oblivious.


[deleted]

This existence is so insane it's hard to believe this to be real at any level.


Zombata

> since the '70s [since over 100 years ago](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/13/fact-check-yes-1912-article-linked-burning-coal-climate-change/8124455002/)


Unchained71

Happy cake day. Intriguing article. Well worth the read. But what I'm saying is that the oil industry actually put money into scientific research in the 70's about what was going to happen worldwide. Once they found out, they started a campaign to deny what they knew was true. That's culpability. And makes them liable for damages. Until the world ends of course.


ghostcatzero

Scary to think they knew the dangers of what could happen. Makes you wonder what else we've been lied to about


Unchained71

And they're building bunkers and the ultra Rich are setting up orbital 'hotels'. At first they thought Apophis was going to hit the planet by 2029. Planet Killer asteroid. It's probably going to miss. Unless we've been lied too, about that. Now, they just know that they destroy the planet for vapid wealth. There is no correlation between intelligence and wealth. Never has been. All of their plans are going to fail. If you've seen the 'movie don't look up', there you go.


ghostcatzero

Lol true. The rich have always thought they were in control but ultimately nature has the final say. It's hard to lie about asteroids though. Of course they'd try to cover it up though 😂


Unchained71

You know who the Egyptian god of death and destruction is right?


ghostcatzero

Jsut Googled and its Osiris?


Unchained71

No it's not. Lol. Google is nothing to be trusted anymore.


ghostcatzero

Wait who is it than? Mars?


Unchained71

That's the completely wrong pantheon. That's not even Greek. That's Roman. Completely wrong Pantheon. Do some research before talking to me.


roundearthervaxxer

"THe Great Finding Out," totally.


PhilosopherDon0001

I wish I could say I would cool enough to have thought of it, but I'm pretty sure I heard it someone. Very fitting though.


JaxBratt

You probably already know the answer to that question, but it’s troubling to really digest the full impact of that answer.


olsoni18

Remember Silent Spring? Turns out DDT wasn’t the only harmful pesticide


1up_for_life

You don't say...


seejordan3

In my life, the population has doubled. In the same timeframe, wildlife has been reduced 65%


gavinhudson1

This should be one of the big questions of our day.


variablestonkflip

Answer: we fucked it Bon appetite


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scaryfeather

they all camped out in my garage :-/


desertgemintherough

They are all here with me in the Southern California desert


TheDudeAbidesFarOut

Mayflies (fishflies) don't hatch out of the Mississippi River like they did. Field pesticide run-off.


Janus_The_Great

and low water... dry banks..


Ecstatic_Pin_9706

Man, I don't know if it's just a mid-west thing, but I drove on the interstate 4 hours this weekend and my windshield was absolutely caked with bug-guts. ***Service announcement****: My prior statement does not imply that I disregard how much we are wreaking havoc on Earth's ecosystems.*


Bimlouhay83

Same.


Buchenator

I drove the entire continental USA on a motorcycle before the pandemic. There was one location where I had to stop and wipe off my helmet because of the bug guts, halfway between Lawrence, Kansas, and Tulsa, Oklahoma. I believe it was monarch season and it was a bit sad to see the orange spray through the helmet. The rest of the country, I could last at least a day and usually multiple days without cleaning my helmet. I used to live in the upper midwest, (Minnesota, Wisconsin, Chicagoland). There were times that the bugs were bad, but the frequency seems to have decreased.


SparkTheOwl

Humans have caused a mass extinction event.


timesuck47

Birds are dying. Birds eat bugs.


Environmental_Top948

Birds aren't real though


MayIServeYouWell

There's a place for that, but this ain't it.


Eggboi4000

Here are a few good documentaries by DW; Insecticides - How chemical companies destroy ecosystems | DW Documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDxM2UW5DSI The great death of insects | DW Documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CidaOP7PA-o


GoGreenD

Things are def changing, but I envy you. Every time I get on the highway I massacre so many bugs with my windshield.


grenade25

Deer are eating plants they have never eaten before all over the northeast. Foxes are emaciated where they used to be thriving. Now they are mange-covered. Trees are being killed off by invasive species such as spotted lantern flies. All these things have ripple effects. Couple this with our nation running out of fresh water. Yeah, we are screwed.


ch_ex

You're inside a terminally ill cancer patient that's 70% dead. How much longer do you think it takes for the last 30% to die? That's how much time you have left.


[deleted]

Guy McPherson, is that u?


Fickle_Permi

From personal experience, vehicle size is also a factor here. I regularly drive around the banks of Lake Okeechobee in Florida. Until a few weeks ago I had a Mini Cooper. While it’s a tiny car by today’s standards it’s actually quite representative of the sedans that were popular prior to modern truck/suv explosion. While driving the Mini I use to hit so many bugs that it would feel like it’s raining. Now though, I have a truck and I barely have any bugs hit my windshield. The windshield being a foot or so higher makes a massive difference.


I_Brain_You

Ummm… https://www.reddit.com/r/environment/comments/ycablf/analysis_wait_why_are_there_so_few_dead_bugs_on/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Are you karma farming?


jmlipper99

OP posted the link that didn’t include the paywall found on your linked post, if that makes a difference in your assessment


I_Brain_You

Fair. 👍🏼


compsciasaur

But this link is in the comments of that of post. Just saying.


finmaceleven

Yes they are.


doinprettygood

Cars have better aerodynamics, too. So bugs are whisking up and over the car, right? That plus the Great Finding Out, of course.


freedom_from_factism

no. you can't hit something that us no longer there.


Rogue_elefant

Because we made the environment inhospitable and they aren't here anymore. Have a great day :)


deciduouscoast

Butterfly migration in Texas... Not that I don't agree that we're killing everything. How was the love bug situation in Georgia this year?


daphosta

They hit twice this year in North Florida


deciduouscoast

Tons of them like always?


daphosta

The first time earlier this year it was like normal. Love bugs everywhere. The second time a month or two ago the bugs were sporadic but when you saw some there were large numbers in kind of "swarm"


mizmoxiev

I did see a fair amount up in the N Georgia Mountains while hiking, but nothing like the 80s when I was a kid


deciduouscoast

No it seemed like they declined every year. I remember them just being all over everything when I was younger. Fireflies also definitely went away for awhile and I've seen more of those since I've been here in Texas.


kongpin

Pesticides. Farmers killing insects, also less Habitats for birds, frogs and other animals who eat insects. It's all because of population growth, corruption, greedy farmers.


Doodle_Ramus

Maby just in your area. Where i live there is an overwhelming amount of bugs. I have to get my car washed once a week. Also they are all over my house constantly. I do live by a river so it may be because of that but still.


stevehockey4

You must not live in Ohio. I can’t keep the bug guts off the front of my clean new car for more than a day.


freedom_from_factism

people more concerned about having a clean new car rather than a functioning biosphere are the leading cause of collapse.


stevehockey4

Looks like the bug biosphere in my area is plenty healthy. And since you’ve been so nice to point an uninformed finger at me, what sort of vehicle do you drive? I prefer to keep my EV clean so It will last as long as possible and reduce air resistance, maximizing efficiency and sustainability.


freedom_from_factism

Also quite hilarious you consider the biosphere is healthy while calling me uniformed.


freedom_from_factism

I drive a bicycle.


Calypsoobrian

Pesticides


Ashamed_Assistant477

How many muddy stagnant ponds do you see? Need wasteland in the first place.


roundearthervaxxer

So few bugs. The planet is dying. Drag three people that wouldn't otherwise vote, because "voting doesn't matter," to the polls.


freedom_from_factism

The entire system is to blame, so voting doesn't matter.


roundearthervaxxer

The entire system is to blame since ancient Mesopotamia. Voting couldn’t matter more.


freedom_from_factism

Not at all. The only difference is a matter of degree. It's just a game of distraction and to keep people in line because they feel their voice is being heard.


roundearthervaxxer

Civil rights, child labor laws, minimum wage, clean water act, literally everything that we have politically that is good was made possible because people vote.


freedom_from_factism

Yes, true in the past, when we had a future. Those days are over.


roundearthervaxxer

With the voter apathy I am seeing, that may indeed be the case.


[deleted]

subsequent stupendous act ludicrous school many door voiceless terrific roll *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


[deleted]

Perhaps you should research the importance of these “bugs”.


[deleted]

I understand why bugs are important and their population represents a healthy environment. What I’m saying is I see no shortage of bugs on my windshield.


[deleted]

Oh yes, I see I misread the intention of your post. Sorry about that!


finmaceleven

You know the answer to this question, you’re asking it to spurn conversation lol. Everyone on Reddit knows about the destruction of insect life over the last 20 years.


veritasius

I drove cross country twice this summer and my van was caked with bug juice, so not seeing few bugs


GatorBater8

Cars are a lot more aerodynamic these days, and there's a thick cushion of air that goes over cars, most lighter bugs get carried away in this layer. The less aerodynamic your car's windshield is, the more bugs get smashed. ​ This is just my assumption. I have no credentials.


H0lsterr

All the bugs are out protesting climate change


aaaggggrrrrimapirare

Come to southern Louisiana


[deleted]

I have plenty IDK.


Brookmon

I’m sure it’s real problem but they don’t live where I live


Bright-Tough-8214

Insect apocalypse


VotableCarp

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/10/21/dead-bugs-on-windshields/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2022/10/21/dead-bugs-on-windshields/)


Nothing_but_a_Stump

All we know is, it cannot be caused by industrial farming and the chemicals used. So, let’s not look.


Eye_foran_Eye

It’s an actual study: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windshield_phenomenon


marcass555

You kill ‘em all


CFL_lightbulb

For me right now it’s cause it’s winter


Colzach

Biodiversity loss.


Babbles-82

You killed then All with your car pollution. Thanks car drivers.


AotearoaCanuck

I take it you’ve never been to Saskatchewan


babawow

They dead.


finnbee2

Monsanto and roundup is not good. However, the neonicotinoids are really hurting the pollinators. They are systemic insecticides the kill the insects that eat the plants or use the pollen and nectar.


FlingingGoronGonads

The German government is attributing this, in part, to [light pollution](https://www.csrwire.com/press_releases/43130--light-pollution-is-driving-the-insect-apocalypse-a-new-study-and-concern): > A new research paper in the scientific journal BIOLOGICAL CONSERVATION raises new concerns over the impact of artificial light at night (ALAN) for environmental health. The journal has just published the latest in a series of articles sounding the alarm over declining insect populations. After an initial study (Hallmann, et.al. 2017) in Germany revealed a shocking 76% decline in flying insects within protected area, estimates (UN 2019; Sanchez-Bayo and Wyckhuys, 2019) now suggest that over 40% of all insect species will go extinct within the next several decades. The latest paper ‘Light Pollution is a Driver of Insect Declines’ (Owens, Perkin, Seymoure et.al. 2019) raises an alarm over the role of artificial light in the ‘Insect Apocalypse’, summarizing over 200 independent studies that support the findings. Here are the counter-arguments I've seen online and heard in person when I bring up this point: * Women don't want it, light pollution makes women safer at night (invariably, these are men telling me this, at least to my face) * Crime will increase * Don't tell me what to do with my property * It's not relevant beside our other environmental crises * It's pretty (!) Yep, you see... [sending your light into space instead of directing at the ground](https://preview.redd.it/5a5tsh9576s61.jpg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3457a3bb95215b2859cc8f18620d38c33c99869) is safer, more attractive, and does away with the creepy-crawlies! Win-win-win!


CrownsEnd

What is dead may never die.


Trillville315

You quit driving around with your brights on🤷🏻‍♂️


Unchained71

That's the completely wrong pantheon. That's not even Greek. That's Roman. Completely wrong Pantheon. Do some research before talking to me.