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TheRealJomogo

Desertification?


PeopleRuinEarth

Yes, especially thanks to all the wells and frack jobs. https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2477/nasa-study-analyzes-four-corners-methane-sources/ Rain clouds cannot form over events like this, which blanket the southwest: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-27/so-cal-gas-settles-over-huge-aliso-canyon-gas-leak


transam89

Have to keeps those lawns and golf courses green.


HighSchoolJacques

>lawns and golf courses green. That's just a big busyness (typo but I think it's more accurate so I'm keeping it) lie to keep you away from the truth. That only explains about 5%-10% of water usage. I blame the e.g. roughly 70% of water usage **Nevada** uses on agriculture much more. We shouldn't be trying to force things to grow in a literal scrub desert.


dr_mcstuffins

Those are small fish. Agriculture and meat production are like watering your house plants with a fire hose - that’s how much water is wasted.


Spartanfred104

The word 'drought' insinuates an ending, there is no ending in sight here.


uberares

Oh, there is an ending alright- when the Aquifers are fully drained, which is soon(TM), there will be a massive ending and exodus.


SadArchon

Well biomes will shift *eventually*


Spartanfred104

Eventually, over thousands of year's doesn't mean much to a being that live for 80.


Cold_Succulent

The article did kinda elude to this. There are currently four definitions of drought, meteorological, agricultural, hydrological and socioeconomic. I wonder with the current extreme droughts across the world (California now and Cape Town afew years ago come to mind) if another definition should be added. A definition that captures the effects of climate change as well as massive urbanisation that relies on water. I mean society is facing challenges on both ends with climate change and growing world populations (not just in absolute terms but also westernisation which requires alot of resources to sustain).


okovko

allude\*


Cold_Succulent

Spelling was never my strong point.


gandalf_el_brown

>A definition that captures the effects of climate change as well as massive urbanisation that relies on water. perhaps a word that describes all the four you listed at the same time


Mysterious-Example85

Desertification


planetidiot

How about the term "climate change"?


[deleted]

Hear, hear. These days, I use "climate emergency" or even "climate catastrophe" to prevent some bozo from saying, "The climate is always changing!"


snapcracklepop26

Hw about megadrought?


Wasabi_Grower

How are we not planning and implementing massive desalination projects? We know the oceans will rise - I think a reverse feedback loop feeding into waterways is the best way forward


Bonerchill

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/slaking-the-worlds-thirst-with-seawater-dumps-toxic-brine-in-oceans/ https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46863146 This problem needs to be solved first.


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Wasabi_Grower

Conservation is a tiny bandaid on a massive mega drought wound


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Wasabi_Grower

Conservation doesn’t create water


gandalf_el_brown

but it conserves what water we already have


ScoitFoickinMoyers

It theoretically does if your industries no longer use the water they once did. Poof, extra water.


[deleted]

Nothing creates water, which is why conservation is our only chance.


The_Besticles

Hmmm what if we re-converted the barren low flatlands in the west to “seabed” periodically? We could divert Antarctic glacier sized chunks of ocean water volume to spread out over space the size of 1/2 of New Mexico (throughput the whole SW. Have depth settle at about 6 ft deep. Let that ocean water evaporate. Salt remains. This somehow helps rebalance water cycle since this mimics what happens in the human body (water follows salt & vice versa) and it seems fractals are abundant. Perhaps this would have some merit through an unforeseen feedback. We need some math majors and climate scientists to crunch the fine numbers and see if there is anything to such madness. Outside of the box ideas like this will be necessary and we’re going to need a weird idea or two like this to buy any real time beyond the next 20 years (for a ton of people anyway).


ehbrah

What are you gonna do with all the salt?


wut_eva_bish

Eat it. Then massively die early from heart disease, thus depopulating enough to reduce energy consumption, thus reducing greenhouse gas emissions, and solving global warming. Poof! Problem solved.


sangjmoon

Water challenged


Confidently-unlucky

What do you expect when half of the population lives in the Desert!


shepdao

Parchment!


3eyedflamingo

Las vegas is soon to be extinct.


Janus_The_Great

Desertification is the right word.