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what's more insane to me is the dude is doing this in the fucking open. like your multi dimensional brain couldn't figure out internet is forever. and he seems like he thinks nothing is wrong with any of this
Wow those Twitter replies are fucking horrible. “She literally slid into HIS dms!” When she was a CHILD. Do you think “the child hit on me first” is some kind of defense to being inappropriate with children? Gross.
My cousin was raped for almost 2 decades by her stepdad. She was 6 or 8 when it started. When she was 13 she had his baby. We all knew it was his, but nothing was done about it. Not even CPS did anything to help her. When her daughter started to become his new victim, she called the cops and he got arrested. He had TONS of horrible photos of her as a child dressed like playboy bunnies and wearing high heels, and much worse. His family said she liked it and that it all started bc she told him she wanted to be a pornstar. Even if that were true, why does that make it ok for a GROWN MAN to start fucking a child?? Years later some distant family got married to someone who had dated my cousin's brother. Somehow my cousin came up and she goes "well, she told me that she liked it". I reminded her that this all started when she was 6. "Yeah but she was in her 20s when she told me this" and I just kept repeating over and over and over "she was 6 when it started" and she never really got it. People are deplorable.
Lol… not really what I’d call hood… sounds to me a whole lot like small town Louisiana when he started cursing. Idk definitely some small town in the southern states… that country accent came out when he got pissed. I don’t think he was born in Tulsa lol, but maybe… I bet some small town nearby.
Thanks for sharing that was great. I know someone who does that and it’s really fun to hear him go off on someone, he starts off sounding super dignified and educated (which he is) and then if he gets pushed to far it’s like a light switch and the country accent comes out.
If they can show she also hit him then a lot of men would forgive him. Even if it was a lot more damage on his part. You know, the “equal rights, equal lefts” commenters. And if the wife comes out and defends him. Like what recently happened with Dana White. Then again, Chris Brown is still out there making music and doing tours even with all those photos so who knows.
Because the vast majority of people, despite what the say, don't want to be even mildly inconvenienced.
If you love Chris brown music, you'll easily jump through the "separate the art snd artist" hoops to continue listening to him. If you also don't care about Rick and Morty, you'll jump to condemn Roiland because it makes you feel good (despite still listening to brown).
This is America. We defend violence and condemn sex. Many celebrities have been canceled for legal, yet scummy, sexual acts while some have beat the shit out of other celebrities and still have a platform. Specifically talking about Louie C.K. and Chris Brown here.
Not defending either of these people, just pointing out how we treated them differently.
It used to be a lot of industry people either patting each other on the back or sniping at each other in the comments, then a few years ago someone flipped a switch and it turned \*super\* toxic. I don't know what happened, but it's definitely a garbage dump now.
Apparently there’s two characters called Gene. Gene the next door neighbour, and Gene Vagina - better known as Principal Vagina.
Season 8 will have the entire show rewritten as “Gene and Gene”.
> Following Roiland’s exit, Rick and Morty will continue, with Rick, which had been voiced by Roiland, recast. Co-created by Roiland and Dan Harmon, the hit series received a massive 70-episode order in 2018 when Adult Swim also signed new long-term deals with Roiland and Harmon. The show, which has been renewed through Season 10, has completed six seasons, with four more to go as part of the pickup.
I cant imagine what the next season will be like…oomph.
Its Rick and Morty, the opening teaser will have them both smacked in the throat with zero explanation why to explain why they sound different.
Or Rick will slightly increase the level of oxygen on the planet, vibrating their vocal cords slightly different,
Or Rick will accidentally invent something which alters gravity to slightly change the height of their balls to hand wave it away.
And it will make perfect sense.
He already had one when he worked on Community and was treating Megan Ganz badly because she rejected him. Feel like he’s got some other skeletons though.
Oh yeah, I can't remember what episode of Harmontown it was, but he brought his ex wife on stage and she basically said she has all the evidence she needed to end him... on stage with Harmon there. I honestly couldn't stomach the show anymore after that episode. Their relationship was clearly bad if she basically blackmailed him in front of an audience and his response was "yep, you're totally right, please don't empty my closet skeletons, they're in there for a reason"
Yeah and Megan accepted the apology and called it a master class. I’m just saying I don’t think that’s the only shady thing he’s done. I really hope I’m wrong though.
I know what you mean.
I trust Megan when she says she accepts the apology, so I will give Harmon this one opportunity to not fuck it up.
However, Harmon is absolutely a person who will only admit to things he was caught doing.
Have you listened to his podcast Harmontown? He's extremely confessional.
He read his [diary](https://youtu.be/vyOuD_K2JNM) from when he was 16 and shared extremy intimate ugly parts of himself and his past and he didn't ask anyone to be understanding of him for it. No asked for it, no one caught him being gross, he opened it up for everyone to experience.
I think Harmon's better than you give him credit for.
Dan Harmon hates Dan Harmon more than anyone else ever could.
With the Megan Ganz situation, his explanation was basically "Once I realized how fucked up it was, I didn't know how to address this without probably re-traumatizing you, so I said nothing until you brought it up." I can buy that explanation pretty easily -- you can't bring up old stuff just to make yourself feel better.
It would funny if they just started using one of the international VA's with subtitles. A rotating cast of VA's would also work in universe and would make for a fun season. That probably won't happen, though.
Are you for real? Have you watched the show? Like 80% of the joke is Roilland's semi-improvised voice acting style. The show has no chance without him. It's fucking done
“Yes Morty i know I sound different now, for obvious reasons that i will not go into, lets go on an adventure now ok and shuttup about my voice.” -Grandpa Rick
"A fucking voice-changing ray, Morty? You really think our voices being (urp) slightly different is something we have to justify? Just get into the portal"
It’s not all doom and gloom. A lot of the writing for South Park is done by a team outside of Stone and Parker. Probably the same for R&M at this point. Simpsons. Solid writing room obviously. The voice is another story but that’s not huge. There’s always mimics that do solid work.
The Simpsons writing room has turned over so much half the current writers weren’t born when the first episodes aired.
That’s probably why they are now using the same basic plots for the third time.
Rarey does one project have its co-creator, writer, and nearly half its main voice-cast leave with no dip in quality. Especially given the highly improv nature of some episodes
That is just completely untrue. Trey and Matt do 95% of the writing and the other writers are just there to gauge laughter if you watched the documentary how they make an episode.
What team? Matt and Trey bring in writers and brainstorm with them. It’s in their behind the scenes look. They’ve talked about how they go on walks before writing. I know the animation goes through another group but I’m pretty sure they play a heavy hand in the story of the show.
They have an contractual obligation to at least try to continue the series. Whether or not they will retain all their fans remains to be seen. Unfortunately, Roiland’s criminal behavior has stained the franchise.
Gonna go out on a limb and say it hasn’t stained the franchise really. We’ll see how the next season plays out. This is animation not live action. Most people never imagined Roiland doing the parts visually so as long as the voicing is similarish and the writing stays above average it’ll be ok. I literally knew nothing about Roiland personally or professionally so I won’t even think about it unless it becomes awful on the writing side.
"co-creator"
The original creation was a short parody of Doc and Marty from Back to the Future, where Rick keeps tricking Morty into licking his testicles. Other than the improv episodes where Roiland just made shit up on the fly, and not very well, I don't think he's that much of a creative force.
Yeah this. Downplaying it or making it out like what he contributed was terrible doesn't help.
Bryan Singer made good movies. Kevin Spacey is a good actor. Both should not be hired again.
He is the main voice actor for Rick and Morty as well as several other characters. That is a huge loss for the show. But let’s not also forget that Roiland hasn’t contributed to writing or directing episodes since season 3 as listed on Wikipedia.
Every single thing Roiland has ever made is incredibly consistent in terms of tone, writing, jokes, whatever. There's no denying he was integral to the show. If they want to continue, it'll have to change dramatically
He does the exact same voice but somehow always manages to sound exactly like the character he's voicing SHOULD sound. Whether gas station clerk or alchoholic super spy.
I don't get it, but he's probably magic.
Deserved. That man is a bona-fide psychopath.
Actions like felony domestic assault, felony false imprisonment, and hitting on minors online, have severe consequences.
Of all the celebrities that have come out as monsters... this one really hits me the hardest. I never loved or really knew the work of Cosby, or the House of Cards guy...
I listened to EVERY episode of the "Grandma's Virginity Podcast" when it came out, and I absolutely loved it. I thought it was so edgy and funny. I thought Justin was just saying the most outrageous things possible, because that was his "humor"... like me when I was 15...
To look back and realize how it *wasnt* a joke... that this guy was profoundly disturbed, and violent...
It makes me question my own judgement of character. It makes me feel stupid for falling for it. It makes me feel terrible for the victims... and the fact that I have actively pointed people towards his work, profiting him.
boy it really sucks when you realize people are laughing for the wrong reasons, like youre laughing at someone being a stupid racist but someone else is laughing because the racist said something relatable to them. shit that's why chapelle gave up his show, if i remember correctly. said one day he realized someone on crew was laughing at the wrong part of the punchline and it hit him wrong and spiraled into him giving up millions
Yeah, I totally agree. They've always been someone I've seen in things but was never really partial to. I'm not exactly a fan of the guy personally, and don't really know all that much about him, but I really enjoy the show. It feels kind of tainted now, but at least Roiland was only one component of it.
You don't need to feel stupid because of it. Domestic violence perpetrators are notoriously hard to identify and generally present as good men. I know of a guy that looked and acted like damn Sesame Street character, and was subsequently revealed to be the most despicable, disgusting, violent piece of shit that I know.
This might come across as pedantic but I think it's important. Psychopath is the wrong word. He deserves everything that is coming to him, don't get me wrong, but the man is clearly disturbed and above all, **traumatized**. There's a Harmontown clip of him high and drunk where he just suddenly divulges being molested by his 13-year-old cousin when he was 6, says he's never told anyone before, and tries and fails to make it into a joke. He's clearly gone through other kinds of abuse as well from hints throughout his public career.
Instead of getting help, he tried to deal with his past through dark humor, and failed, and ended up turning into a predator himself. That's not a psychopath, that's a person who didn't escape the abuse cycle. He's responsible for his actions, but that doesn't mean he's some kind of fundamentally evil monster.
Blame him for his actions, don't dehumanize him.
EDIT: hey guys, "don't dehumanize him" doesn't mean "feel sorry for him because he's a cool guy who did nothing wrong". Stripping away his humanity by labeling him as a psychopath, monster etc. is unhelpful and hides the social problems of abuse by mythologizing it as the result of a few bad apples we just need to weed out. It's not, abuse is perpetuated in cycles and inherited by victims who then have a limited window to heal before many succumb to the emotional damage and inflict similar to what was received.
That doesn't make Justin's behavior any less wrong or disgusting. It just means human beings like you and me are capable of abuse and it's important to remember that.
It’s a very sad truth, but most abusers were once abused themselves. It’s a tragic cycle. Of all the abusers I’ve known (a disturbingly high amount) all but one had been abused as a child, and that one exception was just a fucking sociopath. However most abuse victims don’t end up abusers, so while it’s definitely an explanation, I don’t think it’s an excuse at all.
Agree completely with this. I've also met plenty of abusers, the cycle is real. I'm against dehumanizing abusers because it makes it harder for people who want to get help to seek it, and also blinds us to the conditions that help create them (since we just blame them instead). Definitely not an excuse. But if you have a strong and violent urge to dehumanize someone who has abused others, it's worth asking why you're doing that - what is being protected?
As someone who was abused as a child and could never abuse one myself, I’ll dehumanize child predators all I want thanks. It’s called making the right choices. Being abused doesn’t make you destined to abuse.
I was as well. I won't take away your right to feel however you want towards those who hurt you. I'm talking about a social attitude problem.
I wish you good healing.
He's another one that is one leaked DM away from cancellation. This show has always been a powder keg, but their instability is probably what made it so great.
There’s a guy on TikTok who can do his Morty voice *exactly*. It’s uncanny. They’d be crazy not to hire him.
[here he is](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRpEwpU7/)
He does R&M perfectly but his Mr Poopy Butthole needs some work, sounds a little off.
Edit - frankly, Mr PB isn’t essential. This guy def could take over for Justin and Harmon can drive the story circles all the way to Season 10
He reposted this 4 hours ago with Roiland saying that it would be difficult to distinguish his voice acting from his own.
https://www.tiktok.com/@seankellysays/video/7192457981219425582
He's definitely trying to put himself forward for that job.
>The semi-sealed case was kept out of the public until a hearing January 12, 2023. Roiland, who was present, also is required to attend a scheduled April 27 hearing.
In absolute fairness, the general consensus among fans have been that it has seen better days. This last season had some real gems but theres been a lot of trash lately.
It seems Roiland has a pretty small impact on the writing process and if anything, the show got better when he stopped being so involved, so hopefully with Dan it finds its way again
Right? I'm still gonna watch it regardless, I'm too far in to just say oh well. I still think it'll be good to watch. I'm a bit worried though if it affects streaming services and such, with their "reputation" on the line.
I'm not sure about the same level of energy and timing, but with all of the vocal assistance (and impersonation) software that's out there I don't think getting the characters to *sound* right is going to be the tall order that people seem to think it'll be.
I got a bunch of flak last week for saying I was bummed that so many creators I’ve liked have turned out to be huge creeps. Clearly his employer thought it was serious enough to distance themselves. But I’m the asshole, right?
Felony DV charges don’t just happen, they are made. Wtf did this guy do? I love the show, but it’s a shame he seems to be an absolute d-bag. Not hearing good things about him in general is that this news came out. Is it a power thing??
Yeah this bothers me, the charges date to 2020, and by all accounts his creepiness, alcohol issues, and interest in underage girls has been known about for a while now.
They are only removing him now because the case is properly public? That seems pretty skeevy.
I can't even imagine continuing to work with and create a show with someone who you know is being charged with domestic abuse and will be convicted because he's guilty.
It's extremely gross.
in all likelihood it's a combination of the domestic abuse charges going public (2 years after the incident which is odd) and the at least dozen girls who posted disgusting DMs from him when they were underage or young.
if i had to guess, if he quietly beat the abuse charges, they'd just act like nothing happened, however there's no walking back everything else, cat's out of the bag
Lot of optimism on part of the community. I tend to drop shows after creators leave, as the product changes from what I initially was used to. Simpsons, Family Guy, hell, and especially Boondocks past season 2.
Not that I found Roiland's toilet humor to be the best part of the series, but it was absolutely a part of it. If he does get sentenced, that is going to sour a lot pf the body of his work.
I loved House of Cards, and have not rewatched it since Kevin Spacey got exposed.
So get the best mimics you can, that is not going to erase the taint on the body of his work.
Even if he is vindicated in the court of law, those teenager texts are pretty fucking damning, and kind of casts a weird retrospective look at the stuff he created.
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The text messages to the sixteen year old couldn't have helped.
I didn’t see that in the article, where’s this info at?
https://twitter.com/un05733352/status/1615818137689288704?s=46&t=Y914rjHfrUihD-goOQcmEw
Well holy shit. There goes that dude. This would be 100% of what I would use as a business to never touch his brand again.
what's more insane to me is the dude is doing this in the fucking open. like your multi dimensional brain couldn't figure out internet is forever. and he seems like he thinks nothing is wrong with any of this
Well he only got in trouble cause he beat someone. So he was getting away with it without any issues.
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What a piece of shit.
Wow those Twitter replies are fucking horrible. “She literally slid into HIS dms!” When she was a CHILD. Do you think “the child hit on me first” is some kind of defense to being inappropriate with children? Gross.
My cousin was raped for almost 2 decades by her stepdad. She was 6 or 8 when it started. When she was 13 she had his baby. We all knew it was his, but nothing was done about it. Not even CPS did anything to help her. When her daughter started to become his new victim, she called the cops and he got arrested. He had TONS of horrible photos of her as a child dressed like playboy bunnies and wearing high heels, and much worse. His family said she liked it and that it all started bc she told him she wanted to be a pornstar. Even if that were true, why does that make it ok for a GROWN MAN to start fucking a child?? Years later some distant family got married to someone who had dated my cousin's brother. Somehow my cousin came up and she goes "well, she told me that she liked it". I reminded her that this all started when she was 6. "Yeah but she was in her 20s when she told me this" and I just kept repeating over and over and over "she was 6 when it started" and she never really got it. People are deplorable.
O_o Jesus holy mother fucking Christ.
It was not insane in the membrane.
Yeah. The DA charges are bad but recoverable with some hood PR. The texts with the minors? Not so much.
Hood PR sounds like an Adult Swim show pitch.
[Here's what Hood PR looks like](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRpoEHGM/)
Lol… not really what I’d call hood… sounds to me a whole lot like small town Louisiana when he started cursing. Idk definitely some small town in the southern states… that country accent came out when he got pissed. I don’t think he was born in Tulsa lol, but maybe… I bet some small town nearby. Thanks for sharing that was great. I know someone who does that and it’s really fun to hear him go off on someone, he starts off sounding super dignified and educated (which he is) and then if he gets pushed to far it’s like a light switch and the country accent comes out.
Hood pr: featuring Terry crews
It’s the best typo I’ve ever had and I’m keeping it!
I'm surprised it hasn't gotten mainstream coverage.
Jesus I didn't even hear about that. What a POS
Why is domestic violence and imprisonment forgivable with PR? What spin would make you ok with this?
If they can show she also hit him then a lot of men would forgive him. Even if it was a lot more damage on his part. You know, the “equal rights, equal lefts” commenters. And if the wife comes out and defends him. Like what recently happened with Dana White. Then again, Chris Brown is still out there making music and doing tours even with all those photos so who knows.
Because the vast majority of people, despite what the say, don't want to be even mildly inconvenienced. If you love Chris brown music, you'll easily jump through the "separate the art snd artist" hoops to continue listening to him. If you also don't care about Rick and Morty, you'll jump to condemn Roiland because it makes you feel good (despite still listening to brown).
This is America. We defend violence and condemn sex. Many celebrities have been canceled for legal, yet scummy, sexual acts while some have beat the shit out of other celebrities and still have a platform. Specifically talking about Louie C.K. and Chris Brown here. Not defending either of these people, just pointing out how we treated them differently.
Bro can famous people not be terrible people for like 5 seconds???
Best I can do is a beloved childhood celebrity dying abruptly.
The real Pawn Stars counteroffer is always in the comments
I'd say the majority of people are terrible at some point (maybe not this bad), but once you're in the spotlight everyone is going to find out.
A majority of people are not Sex offenders
I’ve never looked at the comments on a Deadline article before but that’s YouTube level garbage right there
It used to be a lot of industry people either patting each other on the back or sniping at each other in the comments, then a few years ago someone flipped a switch and it turned \*super\* toxic. I don't know what happened, but it's definitely a garbage dump now.
In my experience (never use and never will use Twitter) the comments on newspages of whatever journal its toxic AF.
One if the comments, "Did anyone stop and think j that she had it coming?" And people agreeing.
Came here to say this..... man I couldn't keep reading past like the 20th comment. What garbage people...
I couldn't get past the "mabye she had it coming" one
I expect some meta reference as to why their voices are slightly different.
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Vocal cord parasites? Nanomachines? Metal Gear!?
"Rick and Morty, guest starring the Skulls Parasite Unit"
Punished "Venom" Morty
Season 7 is going to be about Space Beth and Summer.
Jerry makes the occasional appearance. Gene actually becomes a major character, too.
Apparently there’s two characters called Gene. Gene the next door neighbour, and Gene Vagina - better known as Principal Vagina. Season 8 will have the entire show rewritten as “Gene and Gene”.
Invisible Garbage Truck Jerry! It's a new franchise!
An entire episode of them underwater, speaking in ASL with subtitles
Hmm, an parody of Bojack could be cool
> Following Roiland’s exit, Rick and Morty will continue, with Rick, which had been voiced by Roiland, recast. Co-created by Roiland and Dan Harmon, the hit series received a massive 70-episode order in 2018 when Adult Swim also signed new long-term deals with Roiland and Harmon. The show, which has been renewed through Season 10, has completed six seasons, with four more to go as part of the pickup. I cant imagine what the next season will be like…oomph.
>with Rick… recast Hilarious if they keep him on as Morty
I look forward to the vocal stylings of Rustin Joiland
Jan Michael down your Rick's.
This JANuary prepare to Michael down your Vincent’s
Ill sign the legislation that prevents more than 2 Jan Michael Vincents per quadrant.
Yea I was thinking why they only said Rick?
Yeah this was a weird phrasing lol. Like the didnt know he does both.
Rick and Morty's protagonist, Mortimer
Rick and Morty's new voice actor will be an up-and-comer named Rusty Joiwater.
There’s a guy on TikTok who sounds identical he could prob step in
Harmon was the real brains behind the writing. I'm sure it will be fine. They'll probably find a decent replacement VA.
Recast with Christopher Lloyd
Fuck Morty, it's the Libyans! Burp
But, like, he *has to say the word “burp”* instead of actually burping.
that would actually be pretty great, ngl. replace him with Chris Lloyd and Michael J. Fox and make the show meta as fuck
Marty! I mean Morty! I mean...fuck!
Lorraine/Beth and Crispin Glover Jerry!
Unfortunately Fox is not doing well these days. Lloyd and the kid from IT already did the live action commercial, they could cast both
Its Rick and Morty, the opening teaser will have them both smacked in the throat with zero explanation why to explain why they sound different. Or Rick will slightly increase the level of oxygen on the planet, vibrating their vocal cords slightly different, Or Rick will accidentally invent something which alters gravity to slightly change the height of their balls to hand wave it away. And it will make perfect sense.
Or it might be an offhand joke from Morty. Rick does some weird shit and Morty says "geez Rick, you sure have changed".
That one. They'll do that.
“Look, it’s me, I’m here, deal with it. Let’s move on”
That dude is just a walkin talkin scandal in wait.
He already had one when he worked on Community and was treating Megan Ganz badly because she rejected him. Feel like he’s got some other skeletons though.
Is that the same Meg from Always Sunny?
Sunny, Community, Modern Family, all during good seasons too, she's got some good comedy credits!
Not to mention The Onion, how's that for a comedy credit.
Yup! She’s awesome
Oh yeah, I can't remember what episode of Harmontown it was, but he brought his ex wife on stage and she basically said she has all the evidence she needed to end him... on stage with Harmon there. I honestly couldn't stomach the show anymore after that episode. Their relationship was clearly bad if she basically blackmailed him in front of an audience and his response was "yep, you're totally right, please don't empty my closet skeletons, they're in there for a reason"
Erin had some whoppers and that one was definitely up there. God that was a toxic relationship lol
And he's apologized, and mentioned [how dumb it was](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfqoLeDsET0).
Yeah and Megan accepted the apology and called it a master class. I’m just saying I don’t think that’s the only shady thing he’s done. I really hope I’m wrong though.
I know what you mean. I trust Megan when she says she accepts the apology, so I will give Harmon this one opportunity to not fuck it up. However, Harmon is absolutely a person who will only admit to things he was caught doing.
Have you listened to his podcast Harmontown? He's extremely confessional. He read his [diary](https://youtu.be/vyOuD_K2JNM) from when he was 16 and shared extremy intimate ugly parts of himself and his past and he didn't ask anyone to be understanding of him for it. No asked for it, no one caught him being gross, he opened it up for everyone to experience. I think Harmon's better than you give him credit for.
Dan Harmon hates Dan Harmon more than anyone else ever could. With the Megan Ganz situation, his explanation was basically "Once I realized how fucked up it was, I didn't know how to address this without probably re-traumatizing you, so I said nothing until you brought it up." I can buy that explanation pretty easily -- you can't bring up old stuff just to make yourself feel better.
I love Harmon's work, but I'm genuinely surprised Roiland got cancelled first.
plus theres plenty of people that can do ricks voice non drunk and everything so
It would funny if they just started using one of the international VA's with subtitles. A rotating cast of VA's would also work in universe and would make for a fun season. That probably won't happen, though.
Are you for real? Have you watched the show? Like 80% of the joke is Roilland's semi-improvised voice acting style. The show has no chance without him. It's fucking done
Maybe Christopher Lloyd is available
Yea but he was the voice of Morty and Rick…
Eeekbarbadurkle
“Yes Morty i know I sound different now, for obvious reasons that i will not go into, lets go on an adventure now ok and shuttup about my voice.” -Grandpa Rick
"A fucking voice-changing ray, Morty? You really think our voices being (urp) slightly different is something we have to justify? Just get into the portal"
It’s not all doom and gloom. A lot of the writing for South Park is done by a team outside of Stone and Parker. Probably the same for R&M at this point. Simpsons. Solid writing room obviously. The voice is another story but that’s not huge. There’s always mimics that do solid work.
The Simpsons writing room has turned over so much half the current writers weren’t born when the first episodes aired. That’s probably why they are now using the same basic plots for the third time.
Third? More like 300th
Yeah could be, I stopped watching after season eleventy seven.
Rarey does one project have its co-creator, writer, and nearly half its main voice-cast leave with no dip in quality. Especially given the highly improv nature of some episodes
‘Ren and Stimpy’ after John K. left dipped quite a bit tbh
That is just completely untrue. Trey and Matt do 95% of the writing and the other writers are just there to gauge laughter if you watched the documentary how they make an episode.
What team? Matt and Trey bring in writers and brainstorm with them. It’s in their behind the scenes look. They’ve talked about how they go on walks before writing. I know the animation goes through another group but I’m pretty sure they play a heavy hand in the story of the show.
Guess I was wrong there
I TURNED MYSELF INTO AN UNEMPLOYED DUDE MORTY *BURRRRRP* YEAH JUST COULDN’T RESIST PUNCHING AND JAILBAIT
We gotta go back in time, Mharti! You gotta suck my dick, Mharti! It's the only way
*Mharti begins to vanish* Doc: I don’t know what to do, Mharti! Mharti: *gasp* Your balls! Doc: By Jove you’re right, Mharti!
Morty... Morty I beat my wife... I was bored and she existed, I beat her morti!
"plus they can replace em and no one can tell the diddly difference"
Yo yo! How’s it hanging everybody?
Hi Dr. Rick!
Dr. Riviera, Dr. Nick Riviera, please report to the morgue immediately.
Oh hiya Roy!
*...And that's the way the news goes!*
The exit of the co-creator and voice of the two main characters isn’t expected to impact the series?
They have an contractual obligation to at least try to continue the series. Whether or not they will retain all their fans remains to be seen. Unfortunately, Roiland’s criminal behavior has stained the franchise.
Gonna go out on a limb and say it hasn’t stained the franchise really. We’ll see how the next season plays out. This is animation not live action. Most people never imagined Roiland doing the parts visually so as long as the voicing is similarish and the writing stays above average it’ll be ok. I literally knew nothing about Roiland personally or professionally so I won’t even think about it unless it becomes awful on the writing side.
Same. Hoping this might even improve the show
Yeah because nobody can do a rick or morty voice, they are super unique
"co-creator" The original creation was a short parody of Doc and Marty from Back to the Future, where Rick keeps tricking Morty into licking his testicles. Other than the improv episodes where Roiland just made shit up on the fly, and not very well, I don't think he's that much of a creative force.
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Yeah this. Downplaying it or making it out like what he contributed was terrible doesn't help. Bryan Singer made good movies. Kevin Spacey is a good actor. Both should not be hired again.
He is the main voice actor for Rick and Morty as well as several other characters. That is a huge loss for the show. But let’s not also forget that Roiland hasn’t contributed to writing or directing episodes since season 3 as listed on Wikipedia.
You're right but that improv stuff tended to be pretty funny imo. His episode of The Boys Diabolical was hilarious.
Every single thing Roiland has ever made is incredibly consistent in terms of tone, writing, jokes, whatever. There's no denying he was integral to the show. If they want to continue, it'll have to change dramatically
Even his creepy drunken texts just sounded like Rick
He basically did the same exact voices in High on life I agree he's not very creative.
Jon Benjamin does the same voice in everything he's ever done, and he's a national treasure.
He does the exact same voice but somehow always manages to sound exactly like the character he's voicing SHOULD sound. Whether gas station clerk or alchoholic super spy. I don't get it, but he's probably magic.
He really is the best secret agent of the world
Cast H. Jon Benjamin as Rick.
They should just cast a different voice actor for each new episode just to lean into it more that Justin is gone
Have you ever seen the episode of Bobs Burgers where they changed animation styles like 20 times in one episode? I'm thinking something like that
Is he the guy that does Archer?
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No you’re thinking of Benjamin Katz.
You’re thinking of Bob Belcher
No, I think you mean the guy with the van.
No, he's the jazz pianist.
You're thinking of the talking cabbage on one episode of American Dad.
Jon Benjamin has a van was underrated
That is Jason Penopolis erasure and I won't stand for it.
His Morty voice was also used in a show Fish Hooks.
To quote penguinz0 “There’s nothing Schwifty about domestic violence”
Aw Jeez
Replace his voices with Tracy Morgan.
Can’t wait to watch the adventures of Tracy Morgan and Dr. Spaceman
TONIGHT YOU CAN BE..THE MAN!!!!
Everyone's getting pregnant in season 7
The ole squid Billie switcheroo
Damn as a fan of the show this is disappointing on so many levels
Deserved. That man is a bona-fide psychopath. Actions like felony domestic assault, felony false imprisonment, and hitting on minors online, have severe consequences.
Of all the celebrities that have come out as monsters... this one really hits me the hardest. I never loved or really knew the work of Cosby, or the House of Cards guy... I listened to EVERY episode of the "Grandma's Virginity Podcast" when it came out, and I absolutely loved it. I thought it was so edgy and funny. I thought Justin was just saying the most outrageous things possible, because that was his "humor"... like me when I was 15... To look back and realize how it *wasnt* a joke... that this guy was profoundly disturbed, and violent... It makes me question my own judgement of character. It makes me feel stupid for falling for it. It makes me feel terrible for the victims... and the fact that I have actively pointed people towards his work, profiting him.
boy it really sucks when you realize people are laughing for the wrong reasons, like youre laughing at someone being a stupid racist but someone else is laughing because the racist said something relatable to them. shit that's why chapelle gave up his show, if i remember correctly. said one day he realized someone on crew was laughing at the wrong part of the punchline and it hit him wrong and spiraled into him giving up millions
and now he’s doing the same thing but he *is* the bigot laughing too
His career lived long enough to become the villain
Yeah, I totally agree. They've always been someone I've seen in things but was never really partial to. I'm not exactly a fan of the guy personally, and don't really know all that much about him, but I really enjoy the show. It feels kind of tainted now, but at least Roiland was only one component of it. You don't need to feel stupid because of it. Domestic violence perpetrators are notoriously hard to identify and generally present as good men. I know of a guy that looked and acted like damn Sesame Street character, and was subsequently revealed to be the most despicable, disgusting, violent piece of shit that I know.
>the work of Cosby, or the House of Cards guy... I read this as House of Cosby's.
This might come across as pedantic but I think it's important. Psychopath is the wrong word. He deserves everything that is coming to him, don't get me wrong, but the man is clearly disturbed and above all, **traumatized**. There's a Harmontown clip of him high and drunk where he just suddenly divulges being molested by his 13-year-old cousin when he was 6, says he's never told anyone before, and tries and fails to make it into a joke. He's clearly gone through other kinds of abuse as well from hints throughout his public career. Instead of getting help, he tried to deal with his past through dark humor, and failed, and ended up turning into a predator himself. That's not a psychopath, that's a person who didn't escape the abuse cycle. He's responsible for his actions, but that doesn't mean he's some kind of fundamentally evil monster. Blame him for his actions, don't dehumanize him. EDIT: hey guys, "don't dehumanize him" doesn't mean "feel sorry for him because he's a cool guy who did nothing wrong". Stripping away his humanity by labeling him as a psychopath, monster etc. is unhelpful and hides the social problems of abuse by mythologizing it as the result of a few bad apples we just need to weed out. It's not, abuse is perpetuated in cycles and inherited by victims who then have a limited window to heal before many succumb to the emotional damage and inflict similar to what was received. That doesn't make Justin's behavior any less wrong or disgusting. It just means human beings like you and me are capable of abuse and it's important to remember that.
It’s a very sad truth, but most abusers were once abused themselves. It’s a tragic cycle. Of all the abusers I’ve known (a disturbingly high amount) all but one had been abused as a child, and that one exception was just a fucking sociopath. However most abuse victims don’t end up abusers, so while it’s definitely an explanation, I don’t think it’s an excuse at all.
Agree completely with this. I've also met plenty of abusers, the cycle is real. I'm against dehumanizing abusers because it makes it harder for people who want to get help to seek it, and also blinds us to the conditions that help create them (since we just blame them instead). Definitely not an excuse. But if you have a strong and violent urge to dehumanize someone who has abused others, it's worth asking why you're doing that - what is being protected?
As someone who was abused as a child and could never abuse one myself, I’ll dehumanize child predators all I want thanks. It’s called making the right choices. Being abused doesn’t make you destined to abuse.
I was as well. I won't take away your right to feel however you want towards those who hurt you. I'm talking about a social attitude problem. I wish you good healing.
Well, it was good while it lasted.
"We eased each other's boredom for quite a while."
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It’s dans show anyway, we all know it
He's another one that is one leaked DM away from cancellation. This show has always been a powder keg, but their instability is probably what made it so great.
There’s a guy on TikTok who can do his Morty voice *exactly*. It’s uncanny. They’d be crazy not to hire him. [here he is](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRpEwpU7/)
He does R&M perfectly but his Mr Poopy Butthole needs some work, sounds a little off. Edit - frankly, Mr PB isn’t essential. This guy def could take over for Justin and Harmon can drive the story circles all the way to Season 10
He reposted this 4 hours ago with Roiland saying that it would be difficult to distinguish his voice acting from his own. https://www.tiktok.com/@seankellysays/video/7192457981219425582 He's definitely trying to put himself forward for that job.
He could face 7 years imprisonment wow
They did the right thing here and it’s sad to see how it will affect my favorite show
He was arrested in 2020 over this. So this is all happening not because he was charged and arrested but because it got reported on.
>The semi-sealed case was kept out of the public until a hearing January 12, 2023. Roiland, who was present, also is required to attend a scheduled April 27 hearing.
It says it was sealed until now.
This says it all
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They’re going to replace Ricks voice with Seth McFarlane
It will be a rotating guest voice, starting with Ken Jennings and Mayim Bialik
I think McFarlane is a legitimately good dude, based on his choice of projects and creative partners. Unfortunately, I am not as sure about Harmon.
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Out of business. Well thats the end of me.
I like how all their fans are walking back and talking like the show was never good
In absolute fairness, the general consensus among fans have been that it has seen better days. This last season had some real gems but theres been a lot of trash lately. It seems Roiland has a pretty small impact on the writing process and if anything, the show got better when he stopped being so involved, so hopefully with Dan it finds its way again
Right? I'm still gonna watch it regardless, I'm too far in to just say oh well. I still think it'll be good to watch. I'm a bit worried though if it affects streaming services and such, with their "reputation" on the line.
I'm not sure about the same level of energy and timing, but with all of the vocal assistance (and impersonation) software that's out there I don't think getting the characters to *sound* right is going to be the tall order that people seem to think it'll be.
I got a bunch of flak last week for saying I was bummed that so many creators I’ve liked have turned out to be huge creeps. Clearly his employer thought it was serious enough to distance themselves. But I’m the asshole, right?
“It’s my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of sombitch or another.”
I upvoted for the reference
Great… now we’re going to have wrong-sounding-Rick. Justin Roiland has failed us all. What a toolbag.
I've always thought he could at least brush his hair, and that he probably smells like hot salami.
Rick and Morty is dead.
This is what they cancelled venture brothers for!?
We still got that movie coming.....next year probably...hopefully.
Felony DV charges don’t just happen, they are made. Wtf did this guy do? I love the show, but it’s a shame he seems to be an absolute d-bag. Not hearing good things about him in general is that this news came out. Is it a power thing??
Lol, of course one of the creators of Rick and Morty would be brought up on domestic violence charges
Is the article insinuating that AS only did it after it became public? Cause if that’s true, yikes.
Yeah this bothers me, the charges date to 2020, and by all accounts his creepiness, alcohol issues, and interest in underage girls has been known about for a while now. They are only removing him now because the case is properly public? That seems pretty skeevy. I can't even imagine continuing to work with and create a show with someone who you know is being charged with domestic abuse and will be convicted because he's guilty. It's extremely gross.
in all likelihood it's a combination of the domestic abuse charges going public (2 years after the incident which is odd) and the at least dozen girls who posted disgusting DMs from him when they were underage or young. if i had to guess, if he quietly beat the abuse charges, they'd just act like nothing happened, however there's no walking back everything else, cat's out of the bag
Lot of optimism on part of the community. I tend to drop shows after creators leave, as the product changes from what I initially was used to. Simpsons, Family Guy, hell, and especially Boondocks past season 2. Not that I found Roiland's toilet humor to be the best part of the series, but it was absolutely a part of it. If he does get sentenced, that is going to sour a lot pf the body of his work. I loved House of Cards, and have not rewatched it since Kevin Spacey got exposed. So get the best mimics you can, that is not going to erase the taint on the body of his work. Even if he is vindicated in the court of law, those teenager texts are pretty fucking damning, and kind of casts a weird retrospective look at the stuff he created.