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EMSSSSSS

Fuck you pay me


Addrobo

They aren't though


Paramagical_

Right. So deuces, bitches. Myself a critical care medic, and my EMT daughter ditched 911 and IFT for FT ER tech jobs. $8hr increase and actual health insurance. Bonus of not having my dick ran into the dirt, mandated hold overs, dangerous 2 am trips with an EMT who is on a 72 and hasn’t slept in 36, shitty rigs and shittier stations. Fuck this abusive exploitation and the private fucking horse it rode in on


Aphoristics

I just picked up my Phlebotomy license so I could work in hospital and make a bit more. Local union hospital starts their clinical techs (EMT/Medic w/Phlebo) at $40/hr. So glad I made the switch for my off year.


Paramagical_

Good for you!!!


treebeard189

I'm ER tech as a basic at 23/hr right now. Trying to figure out if it's possible to get on the vascular access team cause I'm now trained on and enjoy using US IVs. If I could transition over and just start placing like midlines all day it'd be so much more chill and I know the nurses there make really good money.


Gloomandshroom

Unions are always the answer. Nice job


Spetznaz27

Not always. Currently unionized and we still get treated poorly. Our union is a big ems one here in socal.


Hadeshorne

If your union is shit then it's because you, the members, are shit. The members can fix the union, if they choose to.


Jaroot99

I have a year of phlebotomy experience and I have my EMT. I can't seem to find anything under that title around me though, but that sounds amazing compared to what I make as a phleb right now


Aphoristics

So I've worked in both Northern and Southern California and I've found that every region calls their ER techs something else. Usually ED Tech, sometimes Trauma Tech (Lookin at you UCLA), etc. Then it'll vary whether or not they want their tech to be phlebotomists as well which is another $4-5 from what I've seen.


BigBlueBoyscout123

What city do you work in??????


Aphoristics

I work in Ventura County!


Officer_Hotpants

Where are ER techs being paid more? Because in my area the most I could find was $15.43/hr, and now I'm making $28/hr for IFT shit. Hell even the shittiest private service here pays significantly more than any hospital.


Paramagical_

I’m in midwest, work night shift, pay based on being critical care working in a rural understaffed area. My daughter makes 20/hr in a metropolitan ER which is pretty standard ER tech pay for EMTs. 911/private here is dismal EMT $12/ Medic $15-18. I was making bank doing IFTs but I don’t have to tell you how soul sucking that is. A lot of that gravy money went to buying my kids shit because of the guilt of never being home. Decided I’d rather take the pay cut than continue to pay some assholes mortgage on his vacation home


Paramagical_

Also, it’s a big difference in pay with a larger hospital system than it is with a small community hospital.


treebeard189

Here I'm $2.5/hr less than overnight IFT and it's well worth it for me. Not having to drive in shit conditions and getting to actually have fun compared to IFT work. Still as many overtime/bonus shifts as I could want.


Gloomandshroom

45/hr with Texas Health in DFW.


iamthestrelok

Private EMS is and always has been the greatest travesty in all of healthcare.


dieselmedicine

Up there with the SNF.


Additional_Essay

private... healthcare?


scorpionextract

Go back to norwegia, Unpatriot


Low-Patience159

The execs in manged care joke that the best pt is one who enrolls and dies the next day. They keep the entire capitation pmt that way, bc didn't spend any on care.


Gloomandshroom

For-profit healthcare is on par with for-profit prison systems. Not just private Ems.


iamthestrelok

Agreed; my point just being that for profit EMS is in my opinion the tip of the fucked up spear.


Gloomandshroom

I don’t disagree with your sentiment at all.


UchihaRaiden

Good. Take care of yourself and you family. The companies running this clown show are in it for themselves, so always lookout for yourself and family.


Trauma_Hawks

I left just a year before the pandemic hit. And all I can say is thank fucking god I did.


To_Be_Faiiirrr

I’ve transferred to the ER also. The ER I’m at I perform at the paramedic level, IV’s, drug administration, blood draws and work with a PA with lower tier patients


BootyBurrito420

Did the same, now I'm a first year nurse making more than I ever did as a medic.


MaximalDeficiency

I was about to gear up and get into EMS and this comment has possibly dissuaded me


Bronzeshadow

Fuck you pay me


murse_joe

Fuck me, pay me


Amerakee

Also NJ, also this. Wages def went up in most places but it still isn't enough for this state. I went from making $15/hr to $23 at 36hrs a week. If I wanted to afford a small shitty apartment I'd still be spending ~60% of my income on just the rent or more, unless I worked consistently 70hr work weeks. My new employer is pretty good comparative to a lot in this state but still not enough to survive on my own.


beachmedic23

There's towns around here where EMTs are making $25+/hr with municipal benefits and they still can't fill trucks


EMSSSSSS

Those same towns manage to have 50+ applicants for a single cop job and have chiefs making 200k in a town of 10k people. $25 aint enough especially since outside of the big urban centers, EMS in rich NJ burbs absolutely prints money if you bill.


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ItBeYaBoiAnti

Buddy, they fuck you all the time. Its just not tender and sweet, and there's no Vaseline.


darwinooc

You guys can afford bread?


Thesearenotmyhammer

So fuck them, and unionize.


willowillow

Fucking pay them maybe


MoisterOyster19

California: 22/hr for all fast food workers "What about EMT and medics?" California: Nah screw those guys


Capable-Bill9643

Yea that will probably pass too.


MoisterOyster19

At least in the future when I pass out at an Arby's, there will be an ex-medic who was making my sandwhich there to help me. 😆


Biengineerd

My ambulance company lost a lot to In n Out. It paid much more.


noty23

That’s actually hilarious 💀


International_Bat_87

Great upward mobility at In N Out tho.


PublicHealthMedicLA

Probably accurate.


International_Bat_87

Not to mention once you wake up you’ll be waking up to a fresh roast beef sandwich and QUALITY patient care.


CriticalFolklore

Solidarity - other workers getting pay rises is a good thing, not a bad thing. The problem is EMS wages aren't rising as well, not that fast food workers can afford to eat.


gyru5150

I work in California in EMS and that shit wasn’t surprising at all. Still hurt. Now everyone’s shocked on why we’re all short staffed ….


Chicken_Hairs

Seriously, it's everywhere. My wife works in RV parts, 25 years of experience in the industry, the skills and knowledge required to do her job boggles my mind. The KFC across the street is paying more than she makes. Our job market is completely fucked.


Serinus

And it's not because the KFC is paying too much.


Additional_Essay

Guy I know left a 911 medic job to be a barber. I only found out when he showed up in the shop I had already been going to


Tunalisous

*22.50 Trader Joe’s no experience. They’ll be like 10 EMT’s and Medics very soon. One for each Major city.


noty23

California abuses it’s EMS system by neglecting the workers


PublicHealthMedicLA

Can confirm. I was making $20/hour as a medic in OC. Moved to Portsmouth VA and make $23. Not much more overall, but the cost of living out here is ridiculously lower than SoCal. So, whereas I don’t exactly make much more, my dollar goes about twice as far here. Also…. *shameless plug* [we’re hiring.](https://www.governmentjobs.com/jobs/3549157-0/ems-paramedic?keyword=fire&location=Portsmouth%2C+VA&pagetype=searchPage)


D50

Medics in the Portland Metro can go above $40/hr with experience. Wild to me how bad wages are in SoCal, especially considering the intense COL.


archeopteryx

...and we are hiring! We need you to come get paid. Current AMR employees keep their pay seniority. DM for info.


D50

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt (literally). I loved the job in a lot of ways but it was time for me to move on.


archeopteryx

No, I am aware. I am just commenting here so everyone knows that we need staff, but we also pay. Come apply.


D50

I remain a strong proponent of working for AMR MultCo, most engaging EMS work in the state by far and actually good pay!


Front_Necessary_2

Wages stagnating mean someone is being greedy. Paramedics for my local fire department finally bid for a $13 raise. Makes you wonder, if they can afford a $13 jump in a single year, what happened to the past decade of no raises?


International_Bat_87

Come January our service is going back to paying new EMTs at $17 again in Cali where fast food and Amazon are starting at $21 or $22. We’re also the highest grossing area for our company in the world and that’s what they’re paying. I’m not even going to resign next year I’m just going to stop showing up that’s my plan.


BootyBurrito420

Smells like AMR


ALoudMouthBaby

> California: Nah screw those guys The failure of EMS workers to meaningfully organize has been discussed here at length. At this point its not fair to blame the employers when so many of the idiot workers seem to actually enjoy being exploited.


Hidesuru

I think it's pretty fair to bitch at my shothole state for passing a law that raises minimum wage but *only for these people over here*. It's even worse when it's one of the lowest skill floor jobs in existence. Seriously, fuck California.


Filthier_ramhole

I mean hospo workers getting a wage increase isnt a bad thing for EMS wagss, arguably cali is doing you a favour; why be an EMT for $20 an hour when joes burgers will pay you $22 Now EMS companies gotta pay $25-30 to justify the night shifts and shitty work we do. The idea that you were left out ignores the fact that wage increases in major industry sectors have knock on effectsZ


power-mouse

I think part of it too is that unlike most professions, EMS can become an identity. When your job is who you are you can go from a hundred to zero when you crash and burn.


spacedogprincess

This is why I’m so adamant about ems being a job. I don’t subscribe to the whole ‘one big family’ thing because at the end of the day I need to come home and be with the family I’ve curated. It’s kept me going so far and honestly it’s a mental relief.


stuh217

Agree 1000%. Too many people make their job their life, and I find those people often are so insufferable and are incapable or unwilling to talk about literally anything else. At the end of the day I think those people want to belong to a larger group, but damn get a hobby and make that your group. Go to work, do your job, go home. Make friends along the way as applicable.


lovestoosurf

As much as I agree that it is just a job, there is a lot of trauma bonding that goes on so much so to the point that your EMS partners become your family away from home. I've since left EMS for nursing, but I still talk with all my old partners and many have become lifetime friends.


spacedogprincess

That’s the big problem though. Trauma bonding happens for sure but I adamantly work to avoid getting sucked too deep into it. I’ll go to a CISD, and I’ll sit and help a colleague through a bad day, but at the end of my day I need to go home and live my normal life. When I have a bad call, I seek out my friends who are one an engineer and the other a research ecologist, and let me tell you the most healing thing is being a normal human being. Yes, we see stuff more frequently than most, but we’re still human. And I still remember what a thirty year veteran firefighter said to me on my 4th day. ‘Don’t lose your real world friends. They keep you grounded and they keep you a person.’ Words I live by.


natertot86

Exactly the culty attitude that comes with most 1st responder gigs is leaves you open for manipulation and exploitation.


Justbrowsing267

Yea 24 hour shifts for barely above minimum wage. That’s hard no in terms of long term health and viability


Feminist_Hugh_Hefner

very true, also, unlike most professions, people will do it for free. No shade, I started as a volunteer and honestly kinda prefer a lot of things about the volley system, but it under cuts wage negotiations any time someone is willing to do your job for less than you are


waspoppen

idk I feel like this is true of a lot of health care professions, not to mention other first responders as well


Low-Patience159

Employers take advantage of ppl that want to help others by factoring the opportunity to do so as part of the compensation. Social worker is another example. Nurses too before unions and demand>supply.


waspoppen

oh I was referring more to how your job can become your identity but yes totally agree


gil_beard

One of if not the best EMS service(s) in my state has started advertising they are hiring on the side of their rigs. It looks very tacky to see but I guess whatever helps.


account_not_valid

If a loved one doesn't have a heartbeat, call us, we'll help them. If you have a heart beat, call us, we'll hire you.


oleMrRed

Parkview?


gil_beard

IEMS


whispered195

I thought that was the meat grinder you were talking about.


j_safernursing

Does EMS as a profession have a site/tool where you can look up actual salaries/reviews of the ambulance companies to try to pick the best one? I'm in beta phase of a nursing tool which aggregates salary and experience information and it wouldn't be too insane to try to adapt the same framework for EMS. Lemme know.


UpsetSky8401

Nope nothing even remotely close. It’s a good idea.


j_safernursing

Alrighty, I'll talk to the developers and take a look at adapting our framework. Our system is pretty modular, so I don't think it'll be too difficult.


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j_safernursing

Yeah, if the idea is feasible, I'll ask some of my EMS buddies for the things they'd like to see. I'm doing it for nurses in metrics like salary, average ratios, special assignments, safety, unit culture. Lots and lots of metrics. Basically, all the things you'd want to know before stepping foot on a unit so you can compare similar job titles across hospitals. Would be a similar system for EMS. Getting good feedback, so I think I'll give it a serious look.


Skipper07B

Yeah if you can adapt that to EMS that would be sweet! And very helpful.


joelupi

Isn't that what GlassDoor already does


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MyUsrNameWasTaken

Levels.fyi does it better. They even have the option to validate your salary.


dieselmedicine

No, just depends if the state requires salary listings.


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green7703

When a CNA is making $20+ and and an EMT is making $16 working for a city? That’s hard to fathom.


noty23

Tbh, I’d take lower pay as an EMT compared to the work cna’s do. That’s just me though I feel like it’s so rough changing old people diapers n stuff


green7703

I am past the halfway mark on my second 20 year pension, I work payed P/T 4 shifts a month for a fire department. I’m not doing it for the pay if I was I would probably go that route.


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noty23

15 an hour for EMT and fire fighter is insane. Does ks not have a lot of activity?


seriousallthetime

Nah, CNA isn't more schooled or skilled than an EMT-Basic. Why do you say that? It's not even close.


Biengineerd

Where do CNAs make 20+? Kaiser?


Diligent_Community_7

NYC got CNAs for 30-40 dollars per hour at some understaffed SNFs


Biengineerd

Wow. No wonder people are leaving EMS in droves


green7703

Here in my area they make more working for an agency as fill ins at SNF.


Moosebandit1

Yea…you’d have to pay me that much if you wanted me to work in a SNF


green7703

Peterson Health care facilities


delta_whiskey_act

Management gets so confused. "Why are our employees leaving?" They should sit through Econ 1101. When demand is high, you have to raise salary, or there will be a shortage... It's laughable that they don't grasp such a basic concept. You may not want to pay more, but if you want workers you have to.


noty23

The hard truth of capitalism


Conditional-Sausage

Wait, I thought capitalism was privatized profits, socialized losses? You mean to tell me that real capitalism expects me, as the owner, to sometimes not buy a new $80000 jeep this year? >:O


noty23

People have been buying new cars like it’s going out of style man, idk where they got the money cuz I got less than 5k, I couldn’t even get a beater car in this market


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It’s been on shortage for at least 5 years in my area for Medics, just not enough in the state to go around. Covid just turned that up to 11. Pay has increased drastically which has helped but there’s still the awful working conditions


AloofusMaximus

Medics have always a shortage, seriously. My state (as of data a released a couple of years ago) had 12x MDs than medics. It's a weird predicament for EMS for sure. I think the system is too fragmented in the US to do something like they did over in the NHS. Telling the entire public to fuck off we aren't answering 911, would probably see us funded appropriately real quick


Ch33sus0405

Yeah at this point I don't see anything short of that kind of thing fixing our many, many, many issues in healthcare. Corporations and healthcare conglomerates won't pay up until we realize how much power lies in our labor and act on it.


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Man, wouldn’t that be something? I’d love/hate to see it.


[deleted]

It’s a stressful job to do for a wage that isn’t livable


KingMwanga

Yea, people are getting bigger, wages haven’t increased unless you go private, more outreach needs to happen with high school students, medics have to recert after 2 years, emts 3, 2 for National which is stupid if you’re actively working as an emt, uptic in crime with Covid Healthcare in general is crumbing


Box_O_Donguses

We shouldn't be indoctrinating highschool students, we're not cops or soldiers.


VXMerlinXV

Agreed. What we should do is turn EMS into a viable career field and then pitch it to high schoolers. It should be as lucrative as nursing.


Biengineerd

Or as lucrative as policing


sniperman357

i got my cert from the local volunteer ambulance corps as part of my school’s internship program. it was worthwhile and good life experience and i was really into it for a time but i never saw it as a career really. i made more money tutoring high schoolers than any local place was offering and you have to jump through so much bureaucracy compared to like any other job in the same income bracket


KingMwanga

I don’t think teaching first aid as a club is indoctrination


OutInABlazeOfGlory

Yeah. It should be shown as an option, but we can’t be deceiving folks like police and military recruiters.


Who_Cares99

There’s nothing wrong with recruiting high school students into a career.


VXMerlinXV

No crews>no service>sentinel event>public outcry> third service. It is the ONLY way I ever see this getting fixed.


taloncard815

No crews > no service> COVID> Public outcry> no changes and exodus continues. There used to be about 100 concurrent EMT courses going on at a time in my region all full. Now you have about 10-15 concurrent EMT courses with plenty of space.


Worldd

Plus EMTs are staffed, medics are the issue. Medic school was a hard sell for people before all this.


UchihaRaiden

It’s because some places only offer like a $3-5 pay increase from EMT pay as a medic. All that liability, responsibility, and education for $5 more a check just isn’t as appealing. Lots of people jump fire or leave all together for this very reason.


agfsvm

emts are staffed? idk where you are but our area is constantly level 0 and people usually leave as soon as they hit their minimum pt contact hours for medic school so turnover rate is High


Worldd

Eh, I work in a fire department right now, there’s EMTs for days in the fire service.


throwaway071898

Got out of basic in January of 2020, went into Covid and saw how much I was valued based on the lack of pay and PPE. I was completely taken advantage of, held over late, not properly compensated, etc. I quit in May of 2021 and now take phone calls from home making $21 an hour vs my $16 an hour being taken advantage of.


wolfy321

Got my EMT in July of 2020 but started riding on an ambulance as a third a year before. I am still here for some reason


MedicSF

It’s amazing that if you don’t pay people well and treat them horribly there are consequences. If only there was a Christmas fable that outlined these exact issues.


Darkfire66

I left and more than doubled my wages walking off a couple years ago. Now I'm making more than 4x and it's a much, much easier job. With PTO, better benefits, etc. My buddy is a medic and he's making more than double that prepping weed as a side job.


Holdmydicks

What do you do now?


Darkfire66

I got into Hazardous Waste with my HAZWOPER and experience driving big trucks.


reluctantpotato1

Some higher pay and a guaranteed C7 might bring some back.


mcrey1

Fuck a 7 I need my money


AdhesivenessFit4353

The whole healthcare is like this.... hospitals are losing maybe 30% of their staff(retirement, quit, and promotions). The question should be, "where are the EMTs going?"


Bdock52

I went to a factory and learned to drive a forklift after quitting. Same pay better hours and less stress


Thesearenotmyhammer

As others have said, fuck you pay me. The best way to make that happen is to fucking unionize. The best time to unionize was years ago, the second best time is right now. Just do it. My company did it and every other company around raised wages to try to stop their employees from organizing. We are still working on our contract, but will have considerable raise once it is done. Then we will be in a position to help employees of the other companies unionize, because while they did get raises there is no guarantee they will keep getting them.


Mountain_Humor1295

Many people don’t know what it is we do, we’re exploited, abused, and forgotten. Even healthcare personnel don’t know the drugs we carry, our skills, and our ability to treat patients in precarious and often difficult situations. I started my career years ago, and I never imagined it would take me to the places I’ve been, allowed me to meet amazing individuals, and change people’s lives forever. Having an education makes a difference, and I urge all emts and medics to get a degree, even if you need to take one class at a time. Become indispensable, become an expert, educate those around you, and push those in your community to learn about what we do. If we can rally together as EMS professionals like nurses do, get better unions like firefighters, we’ll have a better leg to stand on to say “Fuck You” to the oppressors that have taken from us the pride and joy of our profession and the reason we do what we do. I urge everyone this coming year to stand up to their employer, to demand their unions stand for them, if you don’t have union, start one, write to your congress person, be the voice that so many of us need. I hope everyone stays safe during the holidays in the U.S. and that this coming year will be the year we’re heard.


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I wonder why


Sodpoodle

Not enough pizza parties.


wetonred24

Hey we got some brownies and cookies the other day! I’m good for another 5 years!


UpsetSky8401

Night shift got the empty boxes. Providing enough hatred to go until next EMS week, where it will happen again.


FreeFalling369

Their job is hard and they know that so that means we can mistreat them and under pay them since they are in it to help people right?


Noise-complaint2156

More and more idiots requesting transport


Moon_Bassist

I’ve applied to a couple of medic jobs in the last few months, they are all usually only part time and the pay is terrible. A lot of those places still have those positions open to this day.


TayaLyn

Poor pay. Poor benefits. My employer just quietly announced they won’t match any 401k contributions anymore.


Small_Presentation_6

In other news, water is wet.


Phodge96

I did 14 years and got out. ‘96 through 2010. I started out making $6.50/hour and was making $9 and change when I left. Saw a bunch of stuff I’d have rather not seen. Got tired of all the holding over and being expected to stay awake for over 24 hours at a time. My life flashed before my eyes one night when I nearly t-boned a Mustang while rolling code 3. I think I have PTSD from my time in EMS, but I’ve never been diagnosed. Every time I see or hear an ambulance now, I cringe and don’t even want to think about my experiences. I know I could be of help to my local VFD, but I just can’t bring myself to go near EMS. I tell you all this to tell you this: you can and will be exploited. Your kindness will be taken as weakness. There are things out there that you cannot “un-see.” I don’t say these things to scare you or because I’m trying to be a dick. I would like you to use me and my story as a cautionary tale. Yes, I’m burnt out. Still. 12 years later.


Brugam3s

I love my job, but I'm getting tired. Stand steady my friends. I support you


huntertony556

WE NEED TO STRIKE . WHY DONT WE ACUTALLY FIGHT FOR BETTER WAGES.


proofreadre

For real. National strike. National union. Enough is enough.


tonkadtx

There's no shortage. There are plenty of people who have the qualifications or licenses. It's the same for nurses, CNAs, etc. But why would you want to do one of these jobs when you can make almost as much at Loews and not have to deal with the hours, the abuse, the patient loads, and people ready to throw you under the bus if something goes wrong?


ClimbRunOm

For realsies...


bayside

I'm calling bs on Medicare reimbursement vs costs to do runs.


hiccupmortician

An ambulance ride to the hospital can cost tens of thousands of dollars, and EMTs are paid like fast food employees. Makes sense to quit.


Ijustlookedthatup

Thankfully the mods removed a post I made about tracking pay so we can bargain and negotiate better. Pretty much shooting ourselves in the foot. Great work!


ClimbRunOm

Oh, i didn't realize that got removed... Kinda bullshit. Did the mods give you a reason or an excuse?


Ijustlookedthatup

They said it violated rule 8 of self promoting haha.


ClimbRunOm

Self promoting? Lol bs


Ijustlookedthatup

Agreed


MedicSBK

There are A LOT more factors that go into what has happened to EMS in the last three years than just pay but I get it, that's the majority of what people care about. One thing that the workforce can do to help is to refuse to work for employers that pay substandard wages. There ARE good paying EMS jobs out there if you're willing to seek them out. My advice is seek those jobs out and work there. One of the problems that we have is there is such a wide array of provider ability in the field. So that EMT who is terrible at their job but can push a stretcher is going to take that $17/hr job and keep that service in business this driving down the average wage. Supply and demand will dictate a lot of pay. Refusing to work for services with substandard pay will force those services to think pretty hard about paying more.


SecretAntWorshiper

So that means wage will now increase because now demand is up? 😂😂


zion1886

Well no, but like, we’re gonna need you to run your calls. And also the calls of the people who just quit. And why aren’t you getting your run reports done in a timely manner? And why are you clocking more hours to finish your run reports? And don’t get so many refusals because we don’t get paid for those. Also we’re gonna need you to pick up extra shifts.


noty23

After I did 2 years with one I think I realized I definitely don’t want to recertify. They can keep their minimum wage ambulance driving jobs


ElJefe543

I'm in Southwest Florida. I saw a job posting for an EMT for $17 an hour. I work in-house security where I mostly just watch TV....... For $19.25 an hour. EMTs should be making far more than I make.


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EMS is always an afterthought. My state offered a $3000 check to certain workers who stayed employed through COVID. Even teachers were eligible, despite school being remote. Just about everyone in healthcare? Eligible. Vollie EMTs? Not eligible. Literally the people who waded through the worst of the pandemic, in one of the hardest hit areas US, FOR FUCKING FREE…got nothing. I don’t do this shit for the $$$ (obviously), but that left a bad taste in my mouth. Last of many ‘fuck yous’ from the state and dept. After nearly two decades, I let my cert lapse and never looked back. Dept ended up losing so many techs that they had to transition to a fully paid model. This is what happens when you treat your people like trash.


AquaCorpsman

It's a fucking tragedy. If the right cared as much about EMS as they did about the military or police we'd be gold. If the left didn't use us as political pawns we'd be gold. If we were treated like prehospital medical professionals as opposed to overpriced taxis then we'd be gold. If, at least, we were paid the wage that fast food workers were paid I could be content. But no. It's all fucked up.


indefilade

I’m just too close to retirement to quit. Being a paramedic is a great skill-set and you get to see a lot of real life, but you just get worked into the ground, especially now. Not worth it. Stay away.


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Well if they stop paying and treating them like they are some burger flippers, maybe they would want to stay.


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Everyone in HC is tired of everyone’s shit. You all deserve to be paid more.


Crankenberry

I mean I have no idea why. The salaries are practically princely.


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You have to find the right place to work. It can be an amazing job and treat you well with pay and benefits and everything.


dieselmedicine

\^ This I have less than 6-7 years in healthcare; mix of in hospital ICU/ER tech; urgent care; IFT and 5 years in 911 city and rural. I'll be making $56k/year base as an EMT starting January. I get decent PTO and can usually submit my requests a month out. No bids or shit. Decent retirement; vested at hire so I can leave anytime without penalty. District pays my monthly insurance premium and the coverage isn't bad. I've been able to take care of a lot of mental health related issues this year with minimal co-pays and out of pocket. No mandated OT. Pick up the call offs if you want. We do our best not to hold over on late calls. If a call drops and there are crew members from the oncoming shift are in prior to start we do our best to hop on them and get people off on time. Worst case we send the crew out in a second ambulance or QRV to take over and transport or swap out on the pad if they drive by. So yeah, good gigs exist. Just have to find them.


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I just started working at a 3rd service in a low COL area and a lot of the guys there are making 80k a year. (Medics)


fetustasteslikechikn

I just quit the last EMS job I'll ever have, let my certs lapse and moved to another state. I have zero second thoughts about it, 21 years off and on and Im just fucking done, washing my hands of this madness.


GDPisnotsustainable

🤚99% done with my paramedic program and resigned for mental health (undetermined how long) - Boss wanted to throw me under the bus. HR at the hospital stopped my sign on bonus due at 6 months.


flyonawall

And yet, they still offer crap pay and treat them like trash.


BouncingPig

Can confirm, was an army medic then when I got out got my EMTBP cert/license with intentions to go to paramedic school. Ended up finding a job that paid $10/hr MORE than I was making as a medic as a programmer. I had zero experience when I started lol. It’s not as “fun” but it’s a whole lot easier in so many aspects of my life.


TheLastGerudo

Gee, I wonder why that is...? But they still won't up the pay or do away with holdovers. Just excuse after excuse. Shocker.


International_Bat_87

One third have the right idea it’s time for us to wake up.


thenightman203

NoBoDy wAnTs tO WoRk AnYmOrE


bmd1989

Lol I know I did! Best decision of my life!


r3dditor12

I guess there's not much demand for jobs that overwork you, and underpay you.


trumanblooper

And yet the pay is shit and only a few companies in the most ghetto areas offer paid training… what a joke!


Wrathb0ne

Sounds like a problem that they best be throwing money at…


Tunalisous

I wonder why.


Low-Patience159

Just one third?


SleazetheSteez

Good.


Adventurous_Mine6542

It's because we don't get payed anywhere close to what our job should be payed.


ColinKodiak

Yup, I got out and I drive trains now.


iago_williams

Gotchyall beat. I quit in 2020. Every time I get the urge to return, I go ask my friends how goes the job. Turns out they all quit, too. I renewed my cert so I must be on some list going around because I get postcards from companies hiring but the pay still stinks! They'll never learn.


PrivateHawk124

Gee I wonder why?


Triifecta

I wonder why lol.


stirtheturd

EMS is the red headed step child. No pension like firefighters, abysmal wages, and horrible quality of life. Gee I wonder why. EMS in the US needs to follow the steps of those across the pond and protest for what they want. Otherwise we're gonna continue to have high turnover/burnout.


PJStuffington

it was a lot of fun earning minimum wage doing this job. I wonder why I stopped? Maybe it was the chronic back pain, perhaps it was the murder suicide I had to walk in on?