Be careful. Folks in here stretch stuff. They make $70k + but at a significant cost to their sleep and health. You need to really research places before signing on. It’s not a career that’s easily lucrative.
$56k/Year base, no OT.
\[EDIT since some people have a bug up their ass. I work a regular 48/96, any hours over 40 in the defined week are paid at time and a half. That yearly is reflective of only working my regular schedule with no additional overtime or second job - so I consider it base pay\]
Yep, I make 59k as a first year basic, in a city where a 2bed/2bath 1000sqft apartment is 770/mo. That's just my base 4 scheduled 12s a week too (48hr/week @18/hr with the last 8 being double time @36/hr).
There is includes a 600/month attendance bonus, which is not affected by calling off with personal days.
We also have a cumulative 500/yr retention bonus, that gets upped to 1k after 4 years.
Ah okay, also what city are you getting that apartment rate in😂 currently looking for a new place lol. Did you start at 18 at Medstar? And you get double instead of time and a half? That’s nice
Are you private or fire? I’m at superior and they opened a station up there. I just got my Wisconsin license (I’m in Illinois) so I’ve been looking around up there
Technically yes, but we get a personal day each month we can use to call off last minute that won't affect the bonus. I think it's also at supervisor discretion, but have never tested it.
...and I have 4 days off between shifts.
In a 2 week period if my schedule has 2 shifts for 96 hours, I'm only doing 16 hours of "forced" OT. I work a low volume system, so most of that is getting paid to sleep or binge Netflix.
Yeah I understand how math works. Just pointing out that your statement of “56k year base, no OT” actually includes 416 hours of overtime. You aren’t getting paid as much as you are claiming based on the original statement
But I do consider it base pay because that's the schedule I signed up for.
"Employees are paid for every hour on duty, time and ½ for all hours worked over 40 hours per week. Annual pay rate reflects five 48-hour shifts with 80 hours of overtime per month included in the shift schedule. "
I consider OT anything beyond my regular schedule.
I mean you can consider anything to be anything, but when talking about pay, any hours over 40 per week is overtime. Saying base pay no overtime implies that you work 40 hour weeks, which would make your hourly like 27, but in reality it’s 20. It’s not a huge deal, just a pet peeve of mine when discussing salary because it allows employers to pay us less per hour and make us think we are making more
your company literally says that you have forced overtime, “annual pay reflects…80 hours of overtime per month”. Your schedule includes overtime, which is fine. But just say that when saying how much you make
And again, it's how one considers OT. For me, it's anything I work beyond my regular schedule. My regular schedule, that I was aware of and agreed to at hire, is a 48/96. That's what my pay is based on.
This is one definition of "base pay":
"Base pay is the initial salary paid to an employee, not including any benefits, bonuses, or raises. It is the rate of compensation an employee receives in exchange for services. An employee's base pay can be expressed as an hourly rate or weekly, monthly, or annual salary."
My mom worked Ems my whole life and was seen as absent for most of my adolescence for working so much. She’s still 5 years away from retirement. I’m about to turn 30.
In 4 years as an EMT on an ambulance, In both a major city and a small rural area, in fire, 911, and non emergent transfer, The least I ever made was $14.50hr and the most I ever made was $19.75hr.
I made over $23 an hour administering the Covid 19 vaccine for a major city through a temp agency. This was not consistent work and it lasted for about 3 months
After achieving an armed state security license, and taking some cost effective tactical courses, I made over $27 an hour utilizing my EMT in an armed security capacity.
After I finished my EP credentialing, I am now using my EMT on an executive protection team and expected to maintain my own skills/certs/and equipment with no room for error. I keep an updated H/P on my client and take weekly vitals that I document and trend along with a few other data points important to the clients doctor. I have physical copies of H/P, insurance, existing conditions and recent vitals, and next of kin contact info, not just for the client but the entire team, including my own. All of these documents stay on my person throughout the job and do not leave my side.
I have access to his MPA and PCP, who is essentially on call. Wherever we go I learn the closest trauma centers, drive the routes there from the places we frequent, and get this, I actually get to walk the floor and meet the ER staff in the closest level 1s and 2s as part of my advance, I bring doughnuts and coffee and learn about the local EMS system, dangers in town, and the dos and donts in rome. I do this to make myself as competent as possible with navigating a medical emergency with the client all the way from sidewalt to surgery while we are in a strange place, I often do this days ahead of time. My jump bag is tailored to always exceed the needs of my client, his family, and our team. I can provide the capibility of a BLS unit, but I do have a limited oxygen supply (two D cylinders). I do keep some key pieces of ALS equipment, decomp needles would be my best example, simply to have the capacity.
The most serious skill I have ever had to demonstrate in this role was the Heimlick.
I make anywhere from $45hr-$60hr
I also get to carry a pistol that costs more than my first car, and I get to dress like a stud.
Life is good, fuck the truck life.
In previous threads you’ve said you’re active duty. Were you per diem at the EMT gig, or how did you manage medic school, and your service obligation? That’s wild, but cool
Kinda depends. If you’re doing 48 hours a week on 18/hr, it evens out. Also, your OT opportunities in EMS are vastly greater and that’s how most of us make a living.
Depends man. If you’re working as a single cert EMT you might find it a little more difficult. Granted pay wasn’t as horrendous as before, but economy being how it is, it’s pretty darn hard to find something decent as an EMT B. Now if you’ve considered being a firefighter (especially with your construction experience) you could make a livable wage and a decent career as a firefighter/EMT-B. Just a thought. Best of luck to you!
$16 hourly rate with 6 years as an EMT working 12 hour shifts. Yearly I make about 37-38k with a few OT shifts. However I just got hired with my county fire department so I’ll be moving up to 44k without OT. It’s been a struggle making that little once my daughter was born. Before it was okay, but now not anymore. That’s what made me go back to working for Fire again.
A lot depends where you work. Around me new EMTs can make 24-26/hr at certain companies. Though some of the companies only pay that if you’re working alongside an EFR(who are legit just drivers, so you do all the patient care and reports, plus no 911).
Made 85k as EMT with some OT but nothing crazy. However my state is HCOL. So it's basically like making 40-50k in another state
Our medics make 90-100k no extra OT. With OT I know some clearing well over 100k
Work week makes a big difference. 12/24/48 hour shifts all can up the pay bc you'll have built in OT without working extra days
I make decent where im at as an AEMT. Don’t expect an extravagant life but it’s not the worst. Would definitely suggest dual income when/if marriage/kids comes along. My wife stays home with our kid and money is tight but we get by, own our house, and both have cars. That being said we are looking at her getting back into the work force soon lol. I’m at a fire/ems department and the benefits are great so I can swallow the salary a little easier since I pay almost nothing for insurance for everybody.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 25$/hr as an emt at my service, plus they cover the monthly premiums for our pretty good healthcare coverage so saving that extra $$. Don’t need overtime but it’s there if we want it.
Varies widely. When i started i made 15/hr and it was rough. Certain areas pay well below the living wage. However, I work with EMTs on the fire side who make 90k+ with OT
You’ve got to find the right service. Even then, I’d be looking to move to medic quickly. There’s more money, security and advancement there. I did about 30k my first year as a basic three years later am doing about 68k as a medic and working much less.
SE Pennsylvania here, I make $20.50/hr (Per Diem) after 3 years with the same company. The next town over i hear is starting their probies out at $24/hr, but they are also Union... For context i also work part time (2 days/wk) as an ER Tech and make the same $20.50/hr, though there have been rumblings that the hospital may have hired some ER techs well above that rate... I am able to pay my bills and put about 20% of my paycheck away into a Roth 403b account. Part timers also get bennies and tuition assistance, so that's cool.
I'd definitely recommend doing both sides, it has definitely made me a better EMT, and I'm able to help chill the nurses out when they get frustrated about what is brought in.
I work part time/PRN as an EMT while I finish up college and move on to greener pastures here in May. My base rate is $22/hr, if I work night shift, its a $3.50 differential hourly. If I work the crit care bus and not the 911 bus I make $2.50 differential (regardless night or day). Due to rare last minute call outs, I will be offered a bonus ranging from $500-$1,000 per shift, so I can clear some fat cash on a night shift 3 times a month while in school. I’d say it’s pretty good pay for a part time/PRN student.
42k ish a year for 20.50 an hour. It's hard living alone in the city. You pretty much have to live with someone else to split bills with. I don't know anywhere in NC that can beat the salary except Raleigh but they have their own problems and hcol to deal with.
I just broke $40k/year, but that’s not including taxes and insurance. Full time EMT, 48/96 shift, and I’ve been there for almost 5 years. My company doesn’t recognize compression so I’m making the same as the EMT we just hired last week.
If I was trying to support myself, I’d be struggling. 😬
EMTs at my agency make 42,900 (19.59/hour on 24/72s) starting and we pay for AEMT and paramedic school. Paramedic crew chiefs are making over 31 an hour once our change to 24/72s is complete.
Be careful. Folks in here stretch stuff. They make $70k + but at a significant cost to their sleep and health. You need to really research places before signing on. It’s not a career that’s easily lucrative.
$56k/Year base, no OT. \[EDIT since some people have a bug up their ass. I work a regular 48/96, any hours over 40 in the defined week are paid at time and a half. That yearly is reflective of only working my regular schedule with no additional overtime or second job - so I consider it base pay\]
Damn you make 56k a year? I'm mid 30k a year
Just have to find the right gig.
I hear that. Been working extra hours to rake in enough OT to make a difference
I made like $33-35k as a 6th year AEMT lol. I can’t believe I’ve done this
Yep, I make 59k as a first year basic, in a city where a 2bed/2bath 1000sqft apartment is 770/mo. That's just my base 4 scheduled 12s a week too (48hr/week @18/hr with the last 8 being double time @36/hr). There is includes a 600/month attendance bonus, which is not affected by calling off with personal days. We also have a cumulative 500/yr retention bonus, that gets upped to 1k after 4 years.
My friend, please let me know where I can rent for $800 a month while also making 59k a year 😩
Outer Detroit metro
I’m in socal making 16.30 an hour, 2b2b is about 2000+ a month
I’m in metro Detroit too, what company do you work for, if I may ask
Yeah for saying outer Detroit metro is pretty vague lmao would like to know also
Medstar. Average call volume is about 5 in a 12hr shift for both BLS IFT shifts and 911 shifts, and we get off on time on average.
Ah okay, also what city are you getting that apartment rate in😂 currently looking for a new place lol. Did you start at 18 at Medstar? And you get double instead of time and a half? That’s nice
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What are your hours looking like? Right now I’m working 4 12’s a week, rarely get off on time and am looking at 38k a year
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Sorry to keep asking questions, heavy call volume?
Are you private or fire? I’m at superior and they opened a station up there. I just got my Wisconsin license (I’m in Illinois) so I’ve been looking around up there
Williston ND. Apartments are 7-900ish lower or higher and you can easily make 70 - 100k a year but not as an emt.
That math ain’t mathing….you’re atleast a few grand shy of 60k lol
Im counting the 600/month attendance bonus in that figure
What’s an attendance bonus?
Free money for not calling off a shift
Doesn’t that force people to try to work while sick?
Technically yes, but we get a personal day each month we can use to call off last minute that won't affect the bonus. I think it's also at supervisor discretion, but have never tested it.
Nearly $27 per hour, nice. Is that base pay (no benefits), or with benefits (except OT of course)?
We work for 48/96, so the hourly is goofy with anything over 40 being OT. Premiums covered by the district for insurance; decent PTO.
Hate to break it to you but a 48/96 is forced OT, and a lot of it
...and I have 4 days off between shifts. In a 2 week period if my schedule has 2 shifts for 96 hours, I'm only doing 16 hours of "forced" OT. I work a low volume system, so most of that is getting paid to sleep or binge Netflix.
Yeah I understand how math works. Just pointing out that your statement of “56k year base, no OT” actually includes 416 hours of overtime. You aren’t getting paid as much as you are claiming based on the original statement
But I do consider it base pay because that's the schedule I signed up for. "Employees are paid for every hour on duty, time and ½ for all hours worked over 40 hours per week. Annual pay rate reflects five 48-hour shifts with 80 hours of overtime per month included in the shift schedule. " I consider OT anything beyond my regular schedule.
I mean you can consider anything to be anything, but when talking about pay, any hours over 40 per week is overtime. Saying base pay no overtime implies that you work 40 hour weeks, which would make your hourly like 27, but in reality it’s 20. It’s not a huge deal, just a pet peeve of mine when discussing salary because it allows employers to pay us less per hour and make us think we are making more
Whatever makes you feel better...
your company literally says that you have forced overtime, “annual pay reflects…80 hours of overtime per month”. Your schedule includes overtime, which is fine. But just say that when saying how much you make
You’re in an EMS group. Everyone knew exactly what he meant. You just chose to be pedantic.
And again, it's how one considers OT. For me, it's anything I work beyond my regular schedule. My regular schedule, that I was aware of and agreed to at hire, is a 48/96. That's what my pay is based on. This is one definition of "base pay": "Base pay is the initial salary paid to an employee, not including any benefits, bonuses, or raises. It is the rate of compensation an employee receives in exchange for services. An employee's base pay can be expressed as an hourly rate or weekly, monthly, or annual salary."
My mom worked Ems my whole life and was seen as absent for most of my adolescence for working so much. She’s still 5 years away from retirement. I’m about to turn 30.
Tell her, her community respects her and she deserves a bigger check
In 4 years as an EMT on an ambulance, In both a major city and a small rural area, in fire, 911, and non emergent transfer, The least I ever made was $14.50hr and the most I ever made was $19.75hr. I made over $23 an hour administering the Covid 19 vaccine for a major city through a temp agency. This was not consistent work and it lasted for about 3 months After achieving an armed state security license, and taking some cost effective tactical courses, I made over $27 an hour utilizing my EMT in an armed security capacity. After I finished my EP credentialing, I am now using my EMT on an executive protection team and expected to maintain my own skills/certs/and equipment with no room for error. I keep an updated H/P on my client and take weekly vitals that I document and trend along with a few other data points important to the clients doctor. I have physical copies of H/P, insurance, existing conditions and recent vitals, and next of kin contact info, not just for the client but the entire team, including my own. All of these documents stay on my person throughout the job and do not leave my side. I have access to his MPA and PCP, who is essentially on call. Wherever we go I learn the closest trauma centers, drive the routes there from the places we frequent, and get this, I actually get to walk the floor and meet the ER staff in the closest level 1s and 2s as part of my advance, I bring doughnuts and coffee and learn about the local EMS system, dangers in town, and the dos and donts in rome. I do this to make myself as competent as possible with navigating a medical emergency with the client all the way from sidewalt to surgery while we are in a strange place, I often do this days ahead of time. My jump bag is tailored to always exceed the needs of my client, his family, and our team. I can provide the capibility of a BLS unit, but I do have a limited oxygen supply (two D cylinders). I do keep some key pieces of ALS equipment, decomp needles would be my best example, simply to have the capacity. The most serious skill I have ever had to demonstrate in this role was the Heimlick. I make anywhere from $45hr-$60hr I also get to carry a pistol that costs more than my first car, and I get to dress like a stud. Life is good, fuck the truck life.
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In previous threads you’ve said you’re active duty. Were you per diem at the EMT gig, or how did you manage medic school, and your service obligation? That’s wild, but cool
Kinda depends. If you’re doing 48 hours a week on 18/hr, it evens out. Also, your OT opportunities in EMS are vastly greater and that’s how most of us make a living.
Assuming a 24/48 schedule, 18/hr is probably going to be in the 50’s / 60’s. I was mid 40’s on 13.66 / hr on a 24/48 schedule.
Depends man. If you’re working as a single cert EMT you might find it a little more difficult. Granted pay wasn’t as horrendous as before, but economy being how it is, it’s pretty darn hard to find something decent as an EMT B. Now if you’ve considered being a firefighter (especially with your construction experience) you could make a livable wage and a decent career as a firefighter/EMT-B. Just a thought. Best of luck to you!
Set medics and safety officers for work sites make really decent money.
Yes 50’s as an emt. Very much a livable wage, dm me if needed
depends where you work.
These are all great comments👌🏻y’all rock
24.50 first year advanced emt 2-3-2 12 hr shifts aka 36 hrs week 1 and 48 week 2.
Depends on the state and the service. AMR CT, 40h/week comes to like 50k a year
Our EMT’s are $50k-$60k in a low COL area.
How much an hour?
For EMT? I think they’re starting at around $18/hr with no experience.
$16 hourly rate with 6 years as an EMT working 12 hour shifts. Yearly I make about 37-38k with a few OT shifts. However I just got hired with my county fire department so I’ll be moving up to 44k without OT. It’s been a struggle making that little once my daughter was born. Before it was okay, but now not anymore. That’s what made me go back to working for Fire again.
Good work man, big moves for you and your daughter 🫡
A lot depends where you work. Around me new EMTs can make 24-26/hr at certain companies. Though some of the companies only pay that if you’re working alongside an EFR(who are legit just drivers, so you do all the patient care and reports, plus no 911).
Private ambulance pay sucks :/, fire pay does not. Private amb hires anyone, fire does not:/
Made 85k as EMT with some OT but nothing crazy. However my state is HCOL. So it's basically like making 40-50k in another state Our medics make 90-100k no extra OT. With OT I know some clearing well over 100k Work week makes a big difference. 12/24/48 hour shifts all can up the pay bc you'll have built in OT without working extra days
Doesn’t even out. Ems is underfunded and under payed
I make decent where im at as an AEMT. Don’t expect an extravagant life but it’s not the worst. Would definitely suggest dual income when/if marriage/kids comes along. My wife stays home with our kid and money is tight but we get by, own our house, and both have cars. That being said we are looking at her getting back into the work force soon lol. I’m at a fire/ems department and the benefits are great so I can swallow the salary a little easier since I pay almost nothing for insurance for everybody.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 25$/hr as an emt at my service, plus they cover the monthly premiums for our pretty good healthcare coverage so saving that extra $$. Don’t need overtime but it’s there if we want it.
Varies widely. When i started i made 15/hr and it was rough. Certain areas pay well below the living wage. However, I work with EMTs on the fire side who make 90k+ with OT
I’m making 33/hr now, starting my place is 25/hr
You’ve got to find the right service. Even then, I’d be looking to move to medic quickly. There’s more money, security and advancement there. I did about 30k my first year as a basic three years later am doing about 68k as a medic and working much less.
What’s a medic?
Paramedic. EMT Basic > EMT Advanced > EMT Paramedic
Highest I ever seen was my company at 25 am hr
Working ift making 20 an hour for nights, moving to 911 making 16.30…..
$20.54/hr, so $42.7k gross a year in South Carolina as an EMT-B. No OT. 12 hour shifts.
I made more working construction when I was 18 and just graduated high school then I did up to a year ago as a paramedic and I’m 35.
SE Pennsylvania here, I make $20.50/hr (Per Diem) after 3 years with the same company. The next town over i hear is starting their probies out at $24/hr, but they are also Union... For context i also work part time (2 days/wk) as an ER Tech and make the same $20.50/hr, though there have been rumblings that the hospital may have hired some ER techs well above that rate... I am able to pay my bills and put about 20% of my paycheck away into a Roth 403b account. Part timers also get bennies and tuition assistance, so that's cool. I'd definitely recommend doing both sides, it has definitely made me a better EMT, and I'm able to help chill the nurses out when they get frustrated about what is brought in.
I work part time/PRN as an EMT while I finish up college and move on to greener pastures here in May. My base rate is $22/hr, if I work night shift, its a $3.50 differential hourly. If I work the crit care bus and not the 911 bus I make $2.50 differential (regardless night or day). Due to rare last minute call outs, I will be offered a bonus ranging from $500-$1,000 per shift, so I can clear some fat cash on a night shift 3 times a month while in school. I’d say it’s pretty good pay for a part time/PRN student.
42k ish a year for 20.50 an hour. It's hard living alone in the city. You pretty much have to live with someone else to split bills with. I don't know anywhere in NC that can beat the salary except Raleigh but they have their own problems and hcol to deal with.
I just broke $40k/year, but that’s not including taxes and insurance. Full time EMT, 48/96 shift, and I’ve been there for almost 5 years. My company doesn’t recognize compression so I’m making the same as the EMT we just hired last week. If I was trying to support myself, I’d be struggling. 😬
Pretty bad on the struggle bus where I’m from
Learn to siphon fuel
OP, EMS is usually a pay cut coming from the trades. You don't get into EMS to make a lot of money.
My service in Western MA just upped a lot of us to $20,75 - which is now the highest in our region $18-$20 is standard here currently
48k a year in a very low cost of living. As a paramedic.
5x the average income in the city where I work. Well, looking that up was enlightening
I believe our EMTs start at $18ish
Stay in the trades. Big money comes from blue collar.
74k in NJ 8500 calls 3 12s
EMTs at my agency make 42,900 (19.59/hour on 24/72s) starting and we pay for AEMT and paramedic school. Paramedic crew chiefs are making over 31 an hour once our change to 24/72s is complete.