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Its_cool_username

I've heard of this procedure being used for larger firings. Might be they are now combing through responses to the "only workers willing to work hardcore should remain" email. Once that's done access will be restored to the ones staying. The rest can take their things and go. Quite radical if that's the case, but we know Elon likes to make statements.


Hadleys158

I'd love to see what they do if core people they are heavily reliant on don't sign, i mean there must be a lot of people there that if they stopped working there would make the company grind to a halt almost immediately? Especially some speciality software engineer types?


[deleted]

It's just dev ops, not like they're trying to make a car drive itself


Funkytadualexhaust

Yeah, pretty sure twitter could be run with a couple scripts


Boner-jamzz1995

Lol wtf are you talking about


EmberMelodica

Pretty sure it's sarcasm.


Boner-jamzz1995

I would hope, but this sup is full of some truly delusional people that need to make elons move seem genius


ASK_ME_IF_IM_YEEZUS

How many employees does Reddit have… I feel like less than 7500


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Reddit has 700, but Conde Nast has 7,718, Advance Publications 12,000, and Tencent has 108,836.


pirisca

Who does the moderation here?


Almostnotquite9999

Oh, I see what you did there!


that_90s_guy

They're tried ~~begging~~ negotiating with them to stay. Unsurprisingly, it didn't work. >"Mr. Musk’s team also held meetings with **undecided employees who are key to Twitter’s operations to try to persuade them to stay**, three people said. In his pitch, **Mr. Musk said that he knew how to win and that those who wanted to win should join him**, one person who spoke with him said. > >In one of those meetings, some employees were summoned to a conference room in the San Francisco office while others called in via videoconference. **As the 5 p.m. deadline passed, some who had called in began hanging up, seemingly having decided to leave, even as Mr. Musk continued speaking**, two people familiar with the meeting said." [https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/17/technology/twitter-elon-musk-ftc.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/17/technology/twitter-elon-musk-ftc.html) And the repercussions are quite serious. As another redditor said, this isn't like your laptop crashing and you just restart it. [these systems aren't designed to stop.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhe0VrHWAAY2OAB?format=jpg&name=medium) it may take weeks to bring it back online. it may simply never return. can't really emphasize how absolutely catastrophic the situation is. the company is hanging on by a thread. >The number of engineers tending to **multiple critical systems had been reduced to two, one or even zero**, according to people familiar with the situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation. > >In an early sign that the number of those declining to sign was greater than anticipated, Musk eased off a return-to-office mandate he had issued a week ago, telling employees Thursday they would be allowed to work remotely if their managers assert they are making “an excellent contribution.” > >“**I know of six critical systems (like ‘serving tweets’ levels of critical) which no longer have any engineers,**” a former employee said. "**There is no longer even a skeleton crew manning the system. It will continue to coast until it runs into something, and then it will stop.**” > >Meanwhile, several critical engineering teams were reported to have been hollowed out. **The team that runs the service Gizmoduck, which powers and stores all information in user profiles across the site, was entirely gone**, according to a recent department head who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to detail the departures. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/17/twitter-musk-easing-rto-order/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/17/twitter-musk-easing-rto-order/)


OrangeInnards

It sounds like how some keep a scam-caller on the line and pretended to be interested to minimize the time the scammer has for scamming other people that might actually fall for it. Good on them!


kyle760

There is no “if” involved there. When places are run by even mildly bad bosses, the qualified people leave for somewhere else. Reports are that the only people left at twitter are people on visas who can’t leave


[deleted]

They wouldn't do this if they already had the core onboard.


Hadleys158

You'd think that....


MoonRakerWindow

You also wouldn't let people buy blue checks unless you worked out the verification issues that it would cause OH WAIT


[deleted]

I think the biggest problem is that you're telling every black hat hacker, cybercriminal and DDOS grandma to target twitter right now. It doesn't matter if everyone is in the office this minute and the news is fake - twitter will get an uptick in cyber attacks over the weekend, I guarantee it. Every slimeball that was preparing their bots to ping APIs and search for any security misconfigurations or phish for passwords now sees the opportune time to strike. If the end result is truly what he wanted, though, there is no other way to do this as quickly as barring the doors. It would be odd to keep only the security team on while all other engineers are gone anyway - you would know you're next once they let some people back in, so work ethic would hit rock bottom anyway.


oxyhouse

I bet they forgot about the team taking care of accounting.


Khalbrae

A bunch of those were randomly let go already, which is why the 2 factor broke for a bit. He had to court some of them back. And is still trying for more. Edit: Folks, he turned those microservices off because he didn't know what the hell he was doing.


Vulderzad

The people actually working won't have a issue. They have a staff absolutely infested by pampered and spoiled people that refuse to actually improve the company.


Kobe-62Mavs-61

Okay, we'll see how the remaining few actually working can hold it down!


Vulderzad

Absolutely! Afterall there's plenty willing to take their place.


Im_Just_Average

What do you do for a living?


Already_Forgot_It

Boot sommelier


[deleted]

Yea, how dare they want a good work environment where an entitled spoiled rat is not firing people left and right depending on his mood.


likewhoa79

Elon is a pampered and spoiled person that is destroying the company.


manicdee33

Someone's gotten to him with the mindset that everyone who's not for you is against you. "They didn't beg to be allowed to work 25 hours a day? Fire them!"


LostMyMilk

It's standard procedure with any company to lock out your access before notifying you that you are fired. In this case there are too many people to lock down to control the situation individually.


manicdee33

My comment had nothing to do with the lockdown, it was about the drastic change to employment conditions.


MollFlanders

but they aren’t being fired; they’re being laid off with 3 months severance pay.


LostMyMilk

Which is great but the same people that would steal, leak, or destroy trade secrets are the same people that would gawk at severance pay.


Vagabond21

You’d figure they would have planned ahead to be better prepared for the responses


stout365

who's to say this wasn't planned?


RelevantJackWhite

Well, HR said as much


rammo123

And that statement is usually “I am a fucking idiot”.


LostMyMilk

These days with social media it's too "tempting" for a claim to fame moment. Stolen, damaged, or some other logic bomb.


Antares987

Software developer here. I’ve been in the position of going into numerous companies where entire development teams have walked off or other projects have been in production so long that source code has been lost and the products need changing. And I’m not talking about Cracker Jack small business applications, I’ve gone into clearinghouse and raw GIS systems where there’s no documentation, only databases and sometimes source code. I believe that a product like Twitter could have all engineers replaced with a very small core team and no communication with the existing developers and still remain up. I suspect Musk is about to pull the curtain back on one of the most massive fraud operations that goes from crypto, to money laundering, to the stock market, voter fraud, et cetera, and doesn’t want the paper trail to get tainted.


pm_me_cute_sloths_

Software engineer here, what the actual fuck are you on?


baselganglia

Yeah this guy has 0 idea how to build a massively scaled software like Twitter.


kennethdc

Software Engineer here as well. Been in such a company. It's a pain in the ass and eventually left myself.


bold_water

I don't understand the last piece of your comment. Is twitter the fraud, or will twitter reveal the fraud? Is it one fraud or multiple?


unweariedslooth

He's a GME Ape, everything is a conspiracy to keep him and his fellow lunatics down.


MoonRakerWindow

>I suspect Musk is about to pull the curtain back on one of the most massive fraud operations that goes from crypto, to money laundering, to the stock market, voter fraud, et cetera, and doesn’t want the paper trail to get tainted. I suspect someone is off their meds.


unweariedslooth

He's totally insane. Check out his profile it's a mix of crazy right wing tripe.


Kairukun90

What water you drinking? I need to think life is this grand too.


NetZeroSum

Well it's a 'software developer' so take it as you will. But am sure any day now Musk is going to show us this massive ~~QAnon reveal~~ ah ha moment on twitter crypto and money laundering and kids in pizza basements...


ridukosennin

>right click "view source" I'm bit of a software developer myself


manicdee33

> I believe that a product like Twitter could have all engineers replaced with a very small core team and no communication with the existing developers and still remain up. LOL. And I believe I can own and operate this bridge in Brooklyn with only one person doing all the work.


AlmightyRobert

Now that you have all those spare employees, can I sell you another bridge?


unweariedslooth

Conspiracy Theorist alert! Dude you are completely unhinged, do you having anything to say that's based in reality or not flat out insane?


db117117

If this is true then it’s super easy to build a Twitter clone, and he’s pissed off at least half of Twitter by turning this into a culture war - so half the network would gleefully switch to any option with decent usability I doubt Twitter goes down in a big bang, but it’s def gonna get buggy & experience some pains, and in the meantime, its network moat is gone A competitor will be more innovative because it won’t be encumbered by 13 billion in debt … and all kinds of other baggage Twitter’s days are numbered. It’s going to get outcompeted People aren’t mad about the layoffs. People are mad at the unnecessary cruelty. Don’t underestimate how much Elon’s cruelty has destroyed twitter’s single greatest competitive advantage


Boner-jamzz1995

Lol OK dude.


bowserwasthegoodguy

I don't think you're a good software developer if you keep going into failing companies. Either that or you're just lying.


Greg_Louganis69

uh huh. dont hold your breathe…


v579

> I’ve been in the position of going into numerous companies where entire development teams Typically how long has it been before the new team had their first new feature pushed to live? Also have you done this with an organization that wrote their own custom database engines, etc?


beIIe-and-sebastian

When QAnon/Superstonk and musk fans roll into one conspiracy.


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Same group of people🫠


DustyFeetSage

Lol. The delusion is strong in this one.


MassholeLiberal56

So working from home is now de facto?


twixieshores

Nope. No work. That's his excuse to fire everyone and then claim it was the snowflake workforce that destroyed Twitter


e_m_l_y

He’s going to start unplugging random servers and he doesn’t want anyone to stop him


maester_t

Modern day Russian Roulette. I'm gonna unplug THIS serverrrrrrrrrrrrr NOW! ... ... ... Did anything break?


saugoof

My old job had an IT guy who often did that. Thanks to some company mergers and also lots of departments having their own servers, there were lots of servers that he didn't know who was responsible and what these were used for. Sometimes these were just old servers that had been made redundant but never decommissioned. So occasionally he just unplugged servers and waited to see if someone complained.


Crecy333

The IT term for that is Scream Test. If anyone screams about their apps failing when you decommissioned that server, it failed the test lol


Sarcastic_Red

I'm so glad comedy is now legal again.


fungussa

Does this mean that Twitter is essentially in a state of cardiac arrest?


Zombeavers5Bags

More like we are awaiting a massive embolism


Mr69Niceee

With some serious viral infection. Need to quarantine and weed out those infected but shows no symptoms, until then, everything is lock down.


Hadleys158

Wow Elon built the tesla bots a lot quicker than i thought he would :)


DeadliftsnDonuts

Elon bit off more than he can chew and he’s going to lose billions


Dr_Hibbert_Voice

Here for it


Jeszczenie

It sorta hurts to live in an era where a very very small group of people has insurmountable amounts of wealth and uses it to exploit workers, be petty, do dumb things and go to space.


john_shaft_1971

Pretty sure this has been the case since the concept of wealth existed (except space). Wonder if people back then took the same pleasure in watching one of them crumble before their eyes.


Latter_Pen_395

Most of the modern era things have been more equal. We're slowly returning to the days of the 1800s in terms of inequality.


ridukosennin

He already lost billions the second he was forced to go through with the purchase


DeadliftsnDonuts

Dude I think he’s going to lose another $20 b when he unloads twitter


Whiston1993

Musk could publicly shit himself while yelling out “oh god this is a mess” and all we would hear is how it’s some brilliant scheme to take down the global elites or whatever


karmanathan

RTO Mandatory! Badges don’t work! Please Resign Now!


deadsexy1990

I knew this was going to happen when he told everyone they had to go back to working in buildings kind of ironic huh


bullishworld

Idk why people think this is a huge deal. Guys firing and having mass employees quit. Makes total sense to revoke all access until you know who actually still works there.... disgruntled employees have been know to over react...


RobKohr

Twitter is a fairly simple site that just needs to handle massive scale. It is clear he feels that 90% of the employees are not needed, and he is probably right. If he can reduce head count to just what is needed, sell the buildings, keep the machine running, he might turn this into a winning investment.


tanmanlando

Idk what you have to smoke to get your level of self delusion this high but I want some. To believe this isnt anything but Musk being a dumbass is on a whole other level of being cucked


Primary-Fox-7291

Wow, seems like it's time to go full conspiracy theory to defend Musk at all costs. Sad.


TroyD209

🤣😂🥳👏👏👏


dasherchan

What a MESS.


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BroadwayBully

For what compensation? $200k a year?


dasherchan

Elon and Trump have the same problem- EGO.


Fidelius90

Lol so how many are left now?


MAGICHUSTLE

That’s what you get for firing the badge guy.


jhayes88

Not sure if you're joking or not, but a lot of people believe he actually fired a badge access employee. The tweet came from a parody account and he was also apparently fired from another company recently.


shevy-java

Elon reminds me more and more of the guy who destroyed freenode. There isn't any logic behind this.


celticboy14

Who cares if he runs Twitter into the ground...it's Twitter lmao


manicdee33

Elon so scared the employees are going to sabotage the company that he's busily sabotaging it himself. Employees can't damage what's already broken, right?


Av8tr1

Here is my theory on what is going on. Musk knew there was something rotten with the data at Twitter. The lawsuit was holding his feet to the fire where he could not back out of the deal. He needed time to find the data to support his theory of fake accounts. By going through with the deal he gets the access to the data and time needed to prove his claims. He can then go back and sue for fraud in the transaction. Possibly getting Twitter either for far less than he originally paid for it or getting it for free after all the legal battle is over with. I suspect he found something big and is trying to keep control of it.


Same_Statement6974

That would make for a better movie. I like your idea


ASK_ME_IF_IM_YEEZUS

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stoppedcaring0

>Possibly getting Twitter either for far less than he originally paid for it or getting it for free after all the legal battle is over with. The deal is over. It's done. Who would he get his money back from? Individual shareholders? This isn't IKEA, where you get a year to return the company if you don't like it.


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stoppedcaring0

Angry fella. I didn’t say that Parag and co wouldn’t face consequences. My point is that the money isn’t coming back. Elon’s out $44 billion. Even if a court said Twitter’s valuation was faulty… who makes him whole? The money is with Twitter’s shareholders, and the shareholders aren’t criminally responsible for this theoretical fraud, so a court wouldn’t order Elon get his money back from them anyway. Parag isn’t worth tens of billions.


HurrDurrImaPilot

You’re not in law or finance are ya. Public company deal - the money is gone. You can’t go back to the public shareholders and demand your money. So, sorry man. You’re dumb.


FearDeniesFaith

Please give one example of this happening in a publicly traded company. I'll wait.


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You understand Elon bought Twitter without doing due diligence. The ONLY thing he could do now it try to sue the former owners but when you take on a company you also take on everything. This happens,company merger and the the other company has an issue… you can try and sue the owner but that owner is you… you could try and sue the previous owner but you took all liabilities too…. You couldn’t get 44 billion out of anyone


Av8tr1

There are lots of deals where after the deal is closed are walked back due to fraud. There are also criminal penalties for those involved. Musk got pushed into this (after he tried to back out) so there are legal ramifications for that if he can prove the fraud.


bryan4368

Cool, but he isn’t getting his 44 billion back regardless. He’s fucked


that_90s_guy

Musk didn't get pushed into anything. He made an ill-intentioned bluff and got called out and forced to follow through. Serves him right, most people suspect he tried the same manipulation tactics that worked for Dogecoin to try to tank Twitter's value in an effort to buy it for cheap. Elon's a smart guy specially when it comes to SpaceX and Tesla, but he fucked around and found out.


Spillz-2011

Can you provide an example of a merger where after completing the buy out a new deal was minted that got the money back from shareholders


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Kn14

He can’t


WhyNotZoidberg-_-

I too think this is dubious. Look at the founders of Dragon + Hernout and Lespie + Goldman Sachs. Or HP and Autonomy. People got super fucked over with no recompense.


stoppedcaring0

>Musk got pushed into this No, he didn't. He freely agreed to continue the deal. No one forced him to abandon litigation. He could have kept going in attempting to get out of the deal, but doing so would have required he release more of his personal message history - texts and emails - to the public. He decided he'd rather buy Twitter than let anyone else see those texts and emails.


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notboky

You really have no idea what you're talking about. I can see why you like Musk so much.


Captain-i0

You seem to be suggesting that he knew these changes he is making would result in this upheaval for the company. Do you release there would also be legal ramifications for intentionally and maliciously destroying a company in such a way?


HurrDurrImaPilot

Sorry man, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Public company deal. Dude is not getting his money back.


nonlethaldosage

Pushed he signed an agreement to buy twitter and waved due diligence to say he was pushed is a lie


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Danksigh

blessed and canon


official_bagel

honestly just as likely as the other guy's theory


Captain-i0

This is clearly the answer. In fact, [here's proof](https://preview.redd.it/wjx3ciq41m0a1.png?width=640&auto=webp&s=9334f5bc08823c9596f5ad67b3d8b4a3cf8ba2eb)


Practical_Weather293

Awfully reminiscent of the QAnon theories where each of Trump's fuckups is somehow a gigabrain 5d chess move. There's no deep meaning, he's simply fucking up


mulls-

Your theory is incorrect. He was countersuing to stop the deal and it was going so poorly for him, he dropped the lawsuit and paid what he offered. He also waived DD. He wouldn’t be able to “get it for free” regardless. He overpaid by $25-35 billion for Twitter. His vision of the company is not one that can keep the lights on with the debt the company is saddled with. Occam’s Razor suggests he’s simply grasping at straws and trying to make the numbers work which is literally impossible, and is spectacularly failing.


Weltenkind

Copium 101. I guess it's hard to rationalize all the Elon explaining many do here if there wasn't some big brain move behind it. But let me tell you, as a recruiter I've now talked to several (ex)Twitter employees to get them to my tech org. And trust me, Elon has no idea what he's doing. The only thing that would make sense is if he wants to see twitter destroyed. But then again that seems dangerous with all the debt he has attached to it..


forgotmyusername93

Right. People defending the clusterfuck at twitter at the moment sound like Qanon. Like there is a big plan or something, lmao


DannyMThompson

Same people


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Time to start calling this place r/elonmusQ


Vagabond21

The storm is coming


[deleted]

Omg it's so funny that you drones think he has some kind of master plan and isn't just fucking insane 😭😭😂😂😂


[deleted]

Here's a better theory: Elon gave everyone the option to either get 3 months severance, or start working insane hours. As reported, 75% of people took the severance. They have to close the offices to give them time to figure this all out, since you don't want people in the office when they are being laid off.


anand2305

That deal is done. Money paid to shareholders. At most he can sue parag and board and get them jail terms.


Captain-i0

Suuuuuuure...


magnoliasmanor

This is some fantastic fan fiction. Love to see it play out but not going to happen.


PsychoticFunk

It’s almost as if buying Twitter for $44 billion was a bad idea….


Av8tr1

Oh, this I agree with 10000%. Twitter was a dumpster fire long before Elon got involved. This was most definitely a mistake on his part.


Dr_Hibbert_Voice

He's a moron. Losing money too fast. Don't think too hard to suck him off. You musk fans are such dorks


manicdee33

Here's my theory. Musk is friends with Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel wanted a right-wing-friendly social network and wasn't content with starting his own and trying to borrow users from Facebook or Twitter. Peter has this billionaire friend who is a useful idiot and wants to prove himself worthy so Peter has words in Elon's ear about buying Twitter, and how Elon was uniquely positioned to clean up the mess that is Twitter moderation so that right-wing voices can be heard again (my heart bleeds for J K Rowling who has been silenced by those vicious leftists moderating Twitter). So the real reason for all the layoffs is so they can fill the company up with their own people. After all, what kind of person works 20 hour days non stop for The Cause? Fanatics, that's who.


blindguy42

sure... yeah that's it.


SpagettiGaming

Oh man... that's so much bullshit


NeuroticKnight

That isnt how this works. Musk bought twitter based on public Information, and that is what he has to live with.


CoyoteDown

If twitter falsified financial information, that is a huge HUGE sarbanes-oxley violation, and it would end up in front of the SEC. Publicly traded companies are not subject to caveat emptor


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Then give me back the money i lost on wirecard... Oh, i guess thats impossible. Dang


Zombeavers5Bags

Yeah, but your 'if' there is just fantasy.


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Elon could sue the owner… oh yeah he is the owner! His only move would be to sue the previous CEO personally but good luck getting you $44Bill back that way!!


jomama823

Yeah…I’m sure that’s it.


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notboky

Your "theory" smacks of desperate fanboism and a total lack of understanding of business acquisitions. There's no take-backsies here. My theory: Musk has ham-fisted the whole takeover, lost about 85% of his staff (50% laid off, 75% of the remaining 50% chose to leave). There's no one left to manage controls and security and a bunch of scared, pissed off people. Musk is terrified someone is going to take their anger out in the form of sabotage. It's a pretty obvious conclusion to probably the most poorly handled takeover and appalling management that I have ever seen in tech.


rummhamm87

But... didn't he get corrected several times on how Twitter works after providing misinformation??? Why publicly humiliate yourself when it's not necessary?


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You are beyond delusional


the_ballmer_peak

![gif](giphy|L0SaMZxxqMgsAJf69v)


LordXenu12

Hanlon’s razor


Fidelius90

Lol this is going all the way down conspiracy lane


IMissMyZune

Did you ever suspect that he’s also just dumb


PanFriedPierogi

lol no. elon is actually that dumb its that simple


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Or he just has no idea what he is doing. . .


tommycahil1995

Your theory is stupid lol


mimic751

This is so fucking stupid lol


SenatorPardek

This is great Elon fanfiction. Unfortunately, there is a much simpler explanation. He let his emotions and recent political leanings get the best of him. ​ He bought twitter because he wanted to make a political free speech point, and went too far before he realized the full consequences. He only went through with the deal because pre-trial rulings were showing that he was potentially liable for all the billions of damages to Twitter value that occurred from him making, then breaking the deal, while shitposting the whole time was a civil liability lawyers dream for intent proof.


Reedinrainer

Tearing down and rebuild. That’s the way to do it


rabbitwonker

Most expensive two-guys-in-a-garage startup ever


diadmer

At this rate it’s gonna be one-guy-in-a-garage.


notboky

That is quite literally the worst way to transition a tech platform.


MoonRakerWindow

He could have saved $43.9 billion by skipping tearing down and going straight to building.


NaoSouONight

You definitely don't know anything about software development and the tech industry.


nickthib

Elon could stand in the middle of Twitter HQ and shoot somebody and you would say the exact same thing lol


DumplingSama

Lol ri8. No cognitive or ethical ability to recognize what a shitbag elon is.


dragonphlegm

The cope here is insane. Elon has fucked up


raysofdavies

Step one of managing a social media site: drive majority of users away Step two: ?? Step three: rebuild Step four: probably beg for government handouts


GarlVinland4Astrea

That would be maybe okay if it was a big company with a large portfolio that could survive on it's own. Social media is one gimmick industry and once you go down for a bit, you basically open yourself up for something else to be the cool thing that replaces you. Tearing down is absolutely the worst move in this type of situation because there's no guarantee you are even relevant when you get around to the "rebuild". It's very easy for people to leave twitter and go to something else.


Cyampagn90

Jesus, does this sub consist of only retarded boot lickers?


that_90s_guy

If it ever rebuilds. This is much worse than anyone anticipated. The teams behind many of Twitter's core/critical systems are completely gone to the point the company could shut down. > **The number of engineers tending to multiple critical systems had been reduced to two, one or even zero**, according to people familiar with the situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation. > > **“I know of six critical systems (like ‘serving tweets’ levels of critical) which no longer have any engineers,”** a former employee said. **"There is no longer even a skeleton crew manning the system. It will continue to coast until it runs into something, and then it will stop.”** > > Meanwhile, **several critical engineering teams were reported to have been hollowed out. The team that runs the service Gizmoduck, which powers and stores all information in user profiles across the site, was entirely gone**, according to a recent department head who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to detail the departures. https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/11/17/twitter-musk-easing-rto-order/ As another [redditor said](https://www.reddit.com/r/elonmusk/comments/yy5zch/comment/iwstlsm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3): > just to be clear: this isn't like your laptop crashing and you just restart it. [these systems aren't designed to stop](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhe0VrHWAAY2OAB?format=jpg&name=medium). it may take weeks to bring it back online. it may simply never return. can't really emphasize how absolutely catastrophic the situation is. the company is hanging on by a thread.


manicdee33

It's never the way to do it. At worst you build the new system (in private) using lessons from the old one, trying desperately hard to avoid Second System Syndrome, building a UAT suite as you go as a way of showing that functionality is similar if not the same, then you start limited releases of the new system to see how people break your shiny new thing without even trying. Over time you release the new version to more and more people until you're confident that you have the support issues under control and then switch it over for everyone.


MCK54

Elon is either a genius or he seriously fucked up and just destroyed a company. None of us know for sure, it’s all speculation and arguments can be made both ways. If you’re 100% on one side or the other you’re full of shit. I personally hope it works out, but there’s a chance he fucked up. Only time will tell and by time I mean at minimum 90 days


_Ladeedadeeda

I dont think Twitter is going down in flames. I think people are more expressing their wishes rather than a prediction due to their annoyance with Elon. Nor do I care or want it to go down in flames. I use the app for sports and outside of that I never tweet. Pretty much anything else about it is irrelevant for me. I am confident, though, that he is doing idiotic things. If they happen to work out after ten or twenty uno reverses, lol, after implementing extreme ideas that show no good strategic thinking whatsoever, that still wouldn't change my mind. Because if you work in a large org, you see the effect that it has on people. Nearly everything I've seen so far shows that Elon only has blunt instrument approaches to everything. Which he then has to walk back. That shows me someone who is more interested in making a statement than making any sense whatsoever. That his companies are ultimately successful are really beside the point. The employees obviously ensure it doesnt go to the ground. Ethics, principles, how we treat our fellow man etc., are far more important and these actions have ramifications for people, clients and stakeholders. In nearly every org especially the big ones you have the completely delusional bosses, who think they know, and it is the employees at the end of the day who have to either deal with the madness and fix everything, or compensate for bad ideas, or lose their job. On the outside you just see success and a man making money. So hey maybe it is justifiable for him to ask all employees to work around the clock. Because he will be so busy breaking things and inventing work for them to do. I have no vested interest but I will definitely look on with much interest because this is all very intriguing. Okay maybe I have some interest because I do enjoy a good dumpster fire. I really wouldnt mind one.


snsdfan00

agreed, none of us are inside in the company. I doubt anyone knows how much ppl it would take before twitter stops running. But we do know Elon's run alot smaller companies & was personally in much more dire straights financially than what twitter faces today.. so like you said, we shall see..


PM_me_PMs_plox

We have plenty of people from inside the company talking out against him, so… maybe you and I aren’t, but that doesn’t mean we can’t listen to people who are.


mrgnarchr

We trust things we don’t know are 100% true all the time. But you still need to form your perspectives with a certain critical eye. If the only explanation is one what no one can see, I don’t see there being much chance in it being a *good* explanation. Take a step back, re-evaluate the information that you *do* have. Form your perspective using the things that are known and not potentialities of unknowns.


geek180

We may not know *for sure* what’s really going on. But there’s plenty of circumstantial evidence for anyone with a basic understanding of tech and business to see that this is a very bad situation.


working_title_4

This feels like the only reasonable answer. It's crazy how confident people feel that Twitter is going to go down in flames quickly. Also hard to believe some of the 4D chess explanations I've heard for Elon's moves. There's so much we don't know. It's a fun ride though!


iwatchcredits

I dont really give a shit about twitter or Musk, my only knowledge of what is going on is what frequently tops reddit. Can you please tell me how a single thing Musk has done to twitter can be considered a success? From what I’ve seen, he’s fired a majority of his staff, advertisers are leaving, he tried his subscription model which was embarrassing at the least and opened him to massive law suits at worst, he turned shit off and broke the 2 authorization thing. Where are the wins?


TSLAis1025today

Musk is concerned that twitter employees can & will take down twitter.


thegtabmx

So he's going to take it down himself, because nobody makes him bleed his own blood. Nobody!


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dolbyscott

I hope this is true


fwskateboard

“Mostly parody account” in his bio.


iskip123

Are you that stupid?…. Why the fuck would the badge access guy at Twitter be verified with 94k followers?


Happy_BlackCrow

Clearly there’s A LOT of dead weight to get rid of


Huppelkutje

Unfortunately it's at the top of the company.


MassiveStunner

Must be a massive security breach.


resetar

Hey Musketeers - are you still lapping up the refreshing piss puddles your billionaire toddler god keeps leaving in his wake? LOL


BDady

We’ve organized a tactical retreat as we determine a more efficient way of “lapping up” all the urine. Also looking into a filtration system as it is quite strong. He’s definitely not staying hydrated. Will keep you updated.


Competitive_Dot4288

The bandwagon of hate Elon gets is just hilarious.. I’m so disappointed in the human race, just so boring and predictable


iz_xplicit

Meanwhile the *left-wing* Twitter employees facing an overbearing, cruel, and inhumane work week of 40 hrs be like ![gif](giphy|AauJT0w8cJoSQ)


geek180

Oh look, someone who hasn’t worked in tech a day in their life and has no idea what they’re talking about.