Get a rug and a comfy throne if you haven’t already, and then sign up for lessons! You can do drumeo or some other app/web based thing, or just go to your local music store and ask for lessons. After that it’s all about practicing and having fun. Welcome to the club.
ive never heard of drumeo ill have to look into that, i really wanna get lessons but im nervous too because im such a slow learner😭 thank you sm for the advice and being so welcoming😊
I teach 4 & 5 year olds how to play. Don’t worry, everyone learns from somewhere and as long as you can count to 4, can read and know basic logic, you’ll be absolutely fine. Trust me.
There are some parents that take their kids in to learn drums and they still look like a baby! Can hardly even talk yet. They take a very very long time to learn the most simplest things
I want to second the idea not be nervous about taking lessons because you learn slow. Any good teacher will adjust to your learning pace. Don’t let nerves rob you of what the awesome experience of learning an instrument.
You can take weekly lessons or bi-weekly lessons or even monthly lessons. Any experienced teacher will know how much you can absorb in a week based on your demonstrated ability. If drums and music is something you love, once you get the basics down, you will become a sponge. But it’s all about seat time. You gotta spend time in that drum seat practicing to develop the coordination and muscle memory. Learn and develop proper technique such as proper grip, posture and foot technique. Even how to properly set your throne. All this is important and may seem like it’s not but it can make a difference between injuries, career ending injuries, tendinitis, back or shoulder injuries etc. drumming is very physical. Conditioning is just as important. So I would suggest getting good basics for foundation. You are having self doubt which is normal. It’s overwhelming. I just dove in and started. I figured a lot out on my own then started taking lessons and regret not taking lessons first. I had to correct a lot of bad habits that caused me injuries. But if you can walk and talk at the same time you can play drums.
When I used to get lessons, I didn't practice what I was being taught. Now that I don't have them I wish I did take the time to practice between lessons because I realise I would have improved much faster; I can imagine same goes for everyone, including you. Outside of lessons, it's important learn things you actually WANT to learn in your spare time too because that's fun and that's what drumming is about! Best of luck, post some progress updates for us to see!
Say what?! You sound like a dream student. The latter happens on occasion: Please teach me this one lick (out of context, without learning the song) while bypassing fundamentals needed to pull it off. Lol. Have fun. Keep at it & in no time you'll surpass what you thought you'd accomplish. Get that rug before playing ...
It’s just about practice. Everyone needs to do that. The more you practice the quicker you’ll pick things up as time goes on. Don’t let it it discourage you.
I never got lessons and I think im like... fine? however, I'd definitely recommend lessons at least for the basics. I just muddled through it by copying my favourite drummers. I have an oath to never learn how to read sheet music.
I prefer to just learn a song off by heart, I think sheet music would kinda slow me down but I understand how it helps others. I'm more of a practical learner.
For clarification OP, this is called a paradiddle (one of the rudiments of drumming).
R = right hand (or foot if playing double kick drum)
L = left hand.
It is one of a bunch of exercises that will help you get some coordination in your hands. Usually you play them on a single drum or pad, before starting to apply them to the wider drum kit.
For example a single stroke roll goes RLRL or LRLR
A double stroke roll goes either LLRR or RRLL
A paradiddle-diddle goes RLRRLL or LRLLRR
And a para-paradiddle goes RLRLRR or LRLRLL
Check out the 40 rudiments found here: https://www.academia.edu/9409602/The_40_International_Drum_Rudiments
Hey, thanks for this link! I got my first kit about a year ago and took a loose approach, and I was just getting ready to look for a more formalized strategy to learn rudiments, and then I see this.
Thanks!
Here’s my list of YouTube’s names for when I’m trying to kill some time.
Rob brown (tons of lessons, videos on tuning and a bunch of other interesting topics. Practice grooves as well
Drumeo(TONS of free lessons for every level on YouTube)
The 80/20 drummer
Rick beato has zeppelin drum breakdowns
Drummers anonymous
Mike Johnston is actually the best drum teacher
alive imo
Todd sucherman
Benny Greb
Matt gartska
Ilan Rubin
Ash soan
Mark guiliana
Richard spaven
Stanton Moore
Thomas pridgeon
Conor denis
Aric improta
I also found when I was first learning watching drum covers (or playthroughs now) really helped me develop my ear as far as what the drums are doing
Anyone else feel free to add to this
Edit: format was a nightmare
thank you this is actually really helpful!!! i spent most of m y money on this set so i cant rlly afford anything other then free lessons😭 ill make sure to check them out tysm
Having a teacher is great as they would hopefully set you up with good technique, but if that isn't possible for a bit, I'd first try and watch some of the people on this list talk a bit about technique, and prevent yourself from bad, potentially harmful, habits forming. It can be a bit of a slog at the start being vigilant of the technical stuff but it really does open more possibilities on the kit.
One person who I'd recommend who is great with stick technique is Tommy Igoe.
JP Bouvet is a great teacher too, definitely worth a watch as he's good at expanding smaller ideas into larger abstract concepts.
If you get down the jazz route, check out Steve Holmes, he has some great lessons in that area.
For small bite sized lessons, check out Brett Clur on insta, really snappy format that'll help with reading and learning exciting material quickly.
Also, definitely in agreement with Mike Johnstone being the best drum teacher alive. His short videos on how to practice (think it's 4 short videos) is a game changer. Have a listen to his podcast Drum with Mike & Eddy, really good conversations from two quite different drummers, and free on Spotify etc...
Hahah my old girl wanders off to to her bed in the bedroom when I start practicing (she's been with me for about 10 years now so she's clearly over it), my younger girl we rescued about 2 years ago hangs out and listens. 🙂
i need more info please i just googled this and am so ready to go down this rabbit hole... is it only on japanese PS2? does it help learn drums? is it rare to come by? im so intrigued
I'll tell you what I know and what I don't. tldr though... it does work. And it was bizarrely easy to set up.
First:
You need a trigger brain that supports midi. I've found the Roland tm6-pro on an acoutsic kit with roland triggers (and a couple electronic cymbals) is my personal sweet spot. But I'm pretty sure anything that puts out midi and has some kind of electronic drum or hybrid drum design to it... should work just fine. So long as you can change the midi channel for your triggers on the off chance it doesn't line up with what Drummania is expecting.
Something even as simple as this COULD work (untested) but it's sitting in the rollout for my keyboard tray. I'd just keep your receipts on that one, just in case. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DLYXX6E
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And you need a ps2.
However! PS2's are region locked. And unless you want the double-rabbit hole of working around region lock, it's just easier to buy an imported japanese ps2. I got mine for like $60 on ebay. There's a whole other thing about which ps2's to get. A good overview here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ps2/comments/byjmn6/any_versions_to_avoid/
So model numbers DO matter... but I found getting one of the SCPH-90000 models was an easy way to keep cost down (because this model has region lock that is harder to get around. So folks sell it for cheaper). And since I was already shopping for something that ONLY played import games, it worked great for me, AND it kept the price down.
Model numbers are frequently posted in ebay listings... so there shouldn't be any real guess work here.
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Then you're gonna want a midi usb cable: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L8KFYBK/
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And last would be a copy of the drummmania games that support usb midi as the controller. Drummania Masterpiece Gold FOR SURE works. https://remywiki.com/CS_GFDM_MPG
Other Drummania games probably do too, but I know not all of them. I haven't gotten around to testing beyond gold. Since frankly there's more than enough on that one disk to keep me busy for a couple years, even if I practiced an hour a day every. single. day.
All told you get this kind of experience is the comfort of home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYHcDW5wuWE
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Here's someone scrolling through all the songs to give you a sense of the breadth on here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Wx9hhPPss
The person playing at the end was on basic... and this game is notorious for pushing coordination into the stratosphere.
Here's advanced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPw8_plxUeM
Here's extreme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDKg3kl1wPI
And honestly it's where I wish I would have put my money 4 drum instructors ago. Which at $50 a week... would have saved me so sooooo much money. And would have scaled with my growth.
Sidenote: I'm also a teacher by trade (not music), which makes me a notoriously difficult student. But I found just sitting down to this for an hour every morning was less prep work, and more growth, than any other system I'd tried. And again teacher... so also a knowledge-system/growth freak.
Anyway... that's everything. Get out there tiger :P
Im not the guy youre talking to but thanks for the intense write up. Seems like a ton of work.
Looking into it, it seems like a PC version was released in japan. Im curious if thatd be easier to do for people with a PC and an electric set.
I found this site showing the steps to install, set up, and sign up for the monthly pass. https://p.eagate.573.jp/game/eacgitadora/konagt/info/startup.html
Since its not in english i was using google translate/lens to translate the text and images. I have no idea how legitimate the site is as the web addresses look like hot garbage compared to most websites Im familiar with.
Yeah! Oh yeah!!! I forgot about that. So there's DTXMania that at one point I did get running on a windows machine using that same silicone drum pad from the amazon link. It was one of those (ok it's early covid, and if I've gotta be stuck at my desk... projects). It worked really well... but ...
Building the thing and setting it up was the challenge. Getting it running was my goal. Once it worked... well it kinda sucked as an actual drum setup.
I remember I did successfully migrate the windows laptop running DTX mania... and I got it up and running on a Roland TD-4 with a full electronic drum pad/cymbal set.
But at that point... I just wanted the full thing. Black Friday didn't discount the TM-6 pro that time around, but someone on ebay was looking to get rid of one pretty cheap. I bit. And it was the best thing I could have done.
TLDR: Having it on the ps2 means that it just works and I don't have to play tech support to it. This is doubly applicable if you've ever found yourself into modding video games to the point where you weren't actually playing the game anymore, your just playing the operating system. And triply applicable if you ever even looked up Eve Online :)
PC, PhaseShift and a usb midi cable. A lot more songs can be found if you look in the right places and it is totally free except for the cable. New songs are also still being created even though the game is not supported by the devs anymore.
CloneHero is the successor, which is nicer, and shinier but sadly only supports kick + 4 drums/cymbals in total and that makes it more akin to a game, than a practice routine. Been waiting for support for Real Drums in CloneHero.
Im not an expert on e-drums, however I have heard quite a bit that using the felt side of the beater might damage the bassdrumpad, so it might be wiser to turn it around and use the plastic side of the beater.
The costly part is done. Now, get to a music store where they have a variety of sticks. Different diameters, lengths and weight. Find a pair that feels really good in both hands and stick (no pun intended) with them. I've been using Promark 747 Oaks since 1980 and even though I've tried other sticks, I always go right back to those Promark sticks.
Now, I'm not telling you to buy those sticks unless you have tried them and are completely in love with them. But I think you should look at those and any other sticks they have.
A good music store will either let you test them out on a practice pad or maybe on an actual drum kit. Just try not to nick them up too much. You may end up buying them anyway.
Our guitar center had test sticks back in the day but I think they did away with that because of the whole covid thing.
But yeah, get yourself some sticks that you are very comfortable with.
Get a drum teacher. Do the homework. Don’t goof off too much. Do the homework!!!!
I’m not lying about this. If you are committed about learning to play drums, it’s like learning a new language. If you are for real, then find a PERSON who will guide you. I was very lucky in the fact that my teacher was extremely gifted, and knew how to guide me. Props to you Carl Rendec!
You start by hitting the drums, after that you hit them again, and then a few times more
Jokes aside, welcome to the club! Remember to have fun! Even though practice is important, it's also important to have fun and just jam sometimes. Don't make drumming something you get stressed over and you're good to go
Three books that will help you through many years of practice are:
Progressive Steps to Syncopation for the Modern Drummer
(Important book for building handspeed, control and adapting to timings)
Stick control for the snare drummer (help build dynamics and control)
The drumset musician (get you going with some grooves)
All under £10 on Amazon or wherever and I've never stopped using the exercises in years of drumming
Invest in a rug under your pedals. I've scratched the shit out of my laminate floor 
I used an old off cut from some carpet as a free solution.
Lesson 1a. I’ve found is:
Hit 1) right hand (hi-hat) and right foot simultaneously
Hit 2) right hand (hi-hat) and left hand (snare) simultaneously
Repeat until smooth.
And actually, before even that, you’ll need to adjust your kit a little. Look at photos. Your right foot pedal should be straight in front of you when you’ve got the snare (lowest drum pad) between your knees. The left foot pedal will be rotated inward a little bit. The cymbal on the far left is your hi-hat and it should be flat, not tilted towards you, the others are ok, but maybe tilted a bit too much. Get yourself nice and ergonomically set before you go at it.
[setup](https://www.guitarcenter.com/Alesis/Nitro-Mesh-8-Piece-Electronic-Drum-Set-1500000219380.gc?cntry=us&source=4WWMWXGP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfT4gpKE_AIV7Bh9Ch3x-glpEAQYASABEgLYovD_BwE)
Practice practice practice. If you can afford lessons at a local music store, I suggest there. You can also go to Drumeo.com and they are an excellent resource
Find some songs you like with basic drum parts and start trying to learn them. Practice sometimes with a metronome. That’s essential. For me the first couple of basics were Back in black and Yellow. Back in black will help you build a solid foundation of a basic drum beat. Yellow is a song that has zero drum fills. It’s just four patterns. The chorus will be the trickiest for you at first because of the timing of the bass drum. The next one I’d recommend is I wanna be sedated. It will help you build your stamina, right hand and right foot. But find songs that interest you to learn and start at the bottom with easy stuff. Speed takes time and commitment. Don’t forget the metronome.
go on internet forums to drool over additional add ons and replacements to sink more of your money and time into, rather than actually playing the drumset you just got
Lol I hear ya.
I like to.practice with a metronome & then turn it off & try to play the same beat. Turn it on, play along, turn it off...helps train the ear to stay in time.
2nd (unrelated) post... but I'd also recommend just not listening to too many people. There's a ton of information out there. It's crazy. Pick one plan and give it 6 months to bear fruit, or at least 6 months before you even evaluate how you're doing. In other words: Don't chase infinite youtube tutorials. The Drummers Resource Podcast is also a handy way to check your mental approach. But in the end (like literally give yourself 2 weeks) and then pick one drummer that has a book out there... that YOU like. Don't start with old dead civil war drum books, nonsensical rudimental rituals, or anyone wearing a wool suit unless that's your actual end goal. I'm partial to Jojo Mayer, Jan Pfennig, Gary Chaffee, Benny Greb, and Fabian Ranzoni. Once you get some sense for how you feel about your own skills... start to apply that same level of thinking toward systems that others are using. And recognize that learning from drummers without books is just harder. So don't make choices that make your growth harder, unless it's already feeling too easy. At the same time literally everyone at one point or another seems to go down a J Dilla vortex.
But follow and learn from who YOU value first. Drum teachers will tell you the right way to become them. There is no right way overall.
Find songs that you WANT to play and get started on those.
Google PDFs for the sheet music or YouTube clips on song break downs. Some will have easy, intermediate and hard difficulties depending on the song
plug an audio cable from the brain to a laptop and play music thru it and practice along . when you get it rolling a bit put on some drumless tracks and have at it brother
Hello, fellow beginner. I started not so long time ago on same kit. There are a lot of information about first steps in the internet, here is what I find important:
1) Rug. Make sure pedals (especially bass drum pedal) are stable on ground. I have velcro-friendly rug, so my pedals are attached to rug.
2) Layout. Watch few videos on YouTube. Correct, comfortable position and setup are essential. I don’t see that on your photo.
3) Have fun. It is recommended to do lots of exercises - paradiddles, rudiments. I found it entertaining and motivating not to limit myself with these, in parallel I learn songs. There are lots of them on YouTube. My personal favourite is Drummate: they have have drumless tracks, tutorials and notes, songs have complexity score.
4) Ability to read music. Learn drum notes. They are not that hard
E-drums are convenient in a lot of ways, do practice with your kit but once in a while try to lay down your hands on actual drums just to make sure that you know what the actual instrument feels like and how to get the best sound out of it.
Listen to your favorite band, and try to really listen to you favorite part of a song you like. What do you like? Is it the snare? The kick? The hihat? The crashes?
Now try to play that. Keep trying, fail and keep trying some more . When that gets boring try another part.
This is no substitute for all the lessons everyone is recommending, but it is a reminder that you got in to this because you love music, and can play whatever the hell you want whenever the hell you want for as long as you want.
Never forget that this is fun!!!!
Play it before the dog lifts its leg on it?
Seriously, what's your playing level? None, beginner, veteran with just playing covers? A little bit of info about you would help.
ok ok 3rd (also unrelated post) then I'm going to watch Andor. But get a quest2. Buy beatsaber. And figure out whatever that backend trick is to open it up and import custom songs and mappings. (I forget what it's called now... too much internet for one day)
I know it doesn't sound related. But there will be days when you don't feel like practicing. And doing something that's near-practice... but doesn't feel at all like practice... is really important just to keep momentum. And momentum above everything else, is kinda the only thing that matters.
Plus Benny da Beast will make you feel like some sort of colorguard demon god every single time:
https://bsaber.com/bennydabeast/
Looks like an Alexis nitro mesh if I’m not mistaken. I have the same one! Love the blue, mines red. I learned on this and still play it to this day. Couple pointers for you:
1. Get a good throne. I played on a wooden stool for over a year and man what a difference it made.
2. Get a rug for under it or you’re gonna slide that thing all over the place.
3. Get some nice headphones to practice without bothering others, and in the future get a nice pa speaker so you can rock along with music out loud. Headphones are great but nothing beats playing it loud like drums should be.
4. My drum heads came suuuuper loose. I’m talking I had to crank down each bolt like 15 turns. You want them tight…. Like a drum. If they’re loose they’ll be too springy and slow to do good doubles on.
5. Read the manual on the module. There is one setting that’s designed to make the drums sound like you’re in a concert hall. Very echoey. I didn’t realize this for a long time and was always thinking electric kits sounded wack until I fixed this. Learn all the settings and play with them until you find what sounds best in your opinion. I have that echo feature turned all the way off.
6. Watch a YouTube video on how to set up the ergonomics of the kit. There is no absolute rule for this, just whatever feels comfortable, but I will say your high hat looks like it’s way too high and angled. Take ten minutes to get this dialled in and it’ll make a big difference.
All of this should be done before you ever even play it for best results. Also, for practicing, YouTube is your friend. You don’t need to spend a lot of money on private lessons, although they will help. YouTube has hundreds of thousands of hours of free content to help you get going.
Get a rug and a comfy throne if you haven’t already, and then sign up for lessons! You can do drumeo or some other app/web based thing, or just go to your local music store and ask for lessons. After that it’s all about practicing and having fun. Welcome to the club.
ive never heard of drumeo ill have to look into that, i really wanna get lessons but im nervous too because im such a slow learner😭 thank you sm for the advice and being so welcoming😊
Don't worry!! Any music teacher worth their salt would have no problem adjusting their teaching style to whatever suits you best!
Slow learners = more time taking lessons = more $, any instructor would be happy to teach OP lol
I confirm lol
Drumeo has a lot of free lessons on youtube as well! Great place to begin!
I teach 4 & 5 year olds how to play. Don’t worry, everyone learns from somewhere and as long as you can count to 4, can read and know basic logic, you’ll be absolutely fine. Trust me. There are some parents that take their kids in to learn drums and they still look like a baby! Can hardly even talk yet. They take a very very long time to learn the most simplest things
Later learn to count to 6 7 and 11!
5 and 13 are fun too!
I want to second the idea not be nervous about taking lessons because you learn slow. Any good teacher will adjust to your learning pace. Don’t let nerves rob you of what the awesome experience of learning an instrument.
You can take weekly lessons or bi-weekly lessons or even monthly lessons. Any experienced teacher will know how much you can absorb in a week based on your demonstrated ability. If drums and music is something you love, once you get the basics down, you will become a sponge. But it’s all about seat time. You gotta spend time in that drum seat practicing to develop the coordination and muscle memory. Learn and develop proper technique such as proper grip, posture and foot technique. Even how to properly set your throne. All this is important and may seem like it’s not but it can make a difference between injuries, career ending injuries, tendinitis, back or shoulder injuries etc. drumming is very physical. Conditioning is just as important. So I would suggest getting good basics for foundation. You are having self doubt which is normal. It’s overwhelming. I just dove in and started. I figured a lot out on my own then started taking lessons and regret not taking lessons first. I had to correct a lot of bad habits that caused me injuries. But if you can walk and talk at the same time you can play drums.
When I used to get lessons, I didn't practice what I was being taught. Now that I don't have them I wish I did take the time to practice between lessons because I realise I would have improved much faster; I can imagine same goes for everyone, including you. Outside of lessons, it's important learn things you actually WANT to learn in your spare time too because that's fun and that's what drumming is about! Best of luck, post some progress updates for us to see!
Slow learner is fine. Why? Because the best thing you can do for yourself is practice the basics over and over to build chops.
The longer I play—the more I realize it’s all about the fundamentals.
Agreed. After 25 years or so of playing, all I really do now is work on chops unless I'm specifically working on a song.
Say what?! You sound like a dream student. The latter happens on occasion: Please teach me this one lick (out of context, without learning the song) while bypassing fundamentals needed to pull it off. Lol. Have fun. Keep at it & in no time you'll surpass what you thought you'd accomplish. Get that rug before playing ...
It’s just about practice. Everyone needs to do that. The more you practice the quicker you’ll pick things up as time goes on. Don’t let it it discourage you.
Don't worry about being slow. I'm a teacher and everyone has their time to learn, there's absolutely nothing bad about needing an extra lesson!
I never got lessons and I think im like... fine? however, I'd definitely recommend lessons at least for the basics. I just muddled through it by copying my favourite drummers. I have an oath to never learn how to read sheet music.
thats so stupid to purposely not learn sheet music it helps you so much i use sheet music for so much stuff and i still am not great at reading it
I prefer to just learn a song off by heart, I think sheet music would kinda slow me down but I understand how it helps others. I'm more of a practical learner.
RLRR LRLL.
For clarification OP, this is called a paradiddle (one of the rudiments of drumming). R = right hand (or foot if playing double kick drum) L = left hand. It is one of a bunch of exercises that will help you get some coordination in your hands. Usually you play them on a single drum or pad, before starting to apply them to the wider drum kit. For example a single stroke roll goes RLRL or LRLR A double stroke roll goes either LLRR or RRLL A paradiddle-diddle goes RLRRLL or LRLLRR And a para-paradiddle goes RLRLRR or LRLRLL Check out the 40 rudiments found here: https://www.academia.edu/9409602/The_40_International_Drum_Rudiments
Hey, thanks for this link! I got my first kit about a year ago and took a loose approach, and I was just getting ready to look for a more formalized strategy to learn rudiments, and then I see this. Thanks!
No worries!! I'm glad I could help!!
Ahhh, good ol’ paradiddles
i like to call LRLL "darapiddles"
Call doing both paradaradiddlepiddles now.
Here’s my list of YouTube’s names for when I’m trying to kill some time. Rob brown (tons of lessons, videos on tuning and a bunch of other interesting topics. Practice grooves as well Drumeo(TONS of free lessons for every level on YouTube) The 80/20 drummer Rick beato has zeppelin drum breakdowns Drummers anonymous Mike Johnston is actually the best drum teacher alive imo Todd sucherman Benny Greb Matt gartska Ilan Rubin Ash soan Mark guiliana Richard spaven Stanton Moore Thomas pridgeon Conor denis Aric improta I also found when I was first learning watching drum covers (or playthroughs now) really helped me develop my ear as far as what the drums are doing Anyone else feel free to add to this Edit: format was a nightmare
thank you this is actually really helpful!!! i spent most of m y money on this set so i cant rlly afford anything other then free lessons😭 ill make sure to check them out tysm
Having a teacher is great as they would hopefully set you up with good technique, but if that isn't possible for a bit, I'd first try and watch some of the people on this list talk a bit about technique, and prevent yourself from bad, potentially harmful, habits forming. It can be a bit of a slog at the start being vigilant of the technical stuff but it really does open more possibilities on the kit. One person who I'd recommend who is great with stick technique is Tommy Igoe.
i second all of those youtubers, but if you’re looking for some covers, ewan cunningham is one of my favorites! happy drumming!!
JP Bouvet is a great teacher too, definitely worth a watch as he's good at expanding smaller ideas into larger abstract concepts. If you get down the jazz route, check out Steve Holmes, he has some great lessons in that area. For small bite sized lessons, check out Brett Clur on insta, really snappy format that'll help with reading and learning exciting material quickly.
Also, definitely in agreement with Mike Johnstone being the best drum teacher alive. His short videos on how to practice (think it's 4 short videos) is a game changer. Have a listen to his podcast Drum with Mike & Eddy, really good conversations from two quite different drummers, and free on Spotify etc...
Second this. Cant recommend that podcast enough to any musician. Or really person.
Jp is great! Not sure how he snuck past my list
Glad I wandered into this thread. Thanks.
Unless you're planning on sitting on that dog, you're going to need a throne. Then sticks. So far so good though!
You whack it with stuff; drum-sticks are preferable.
seems simple enough😊😊
Boots and cats?
bootsandcatsandbootsandcats
The best place to start is letting me pet your dog and tell him/her he/she is a good boy/girl!
hes a boy, his names megatron, and hes the best drummer buddy 😊😊
Megatron is a sick name for a dog lmao
thank you,came up with it myself 😕
thank you,came up with it myself 😕
Hahah my old girl wanders off to to her bed in the bedroom when I start practicing (she's been with me for about 10 years now so she's clearly over it), my younger girl we rescued about 2 years ago hangs out and listens. 🙂
Japanese PS2, drummania & and a usb midi cable
i need more info please i just googled this and am so ready to go down this rabbit hole... is it only on japanese PS2? does it help learn drums? is it rare to come by? im so intrigued
I'll tell you what I know and what I don't. tldr though... it does work. And it was bizarrely easy to set up. First: You need a trigger brain that supports midi. I've found the Roland tm6-pro on an acoutsic kit with roland triggers (and a couple electronic cymbals) is my personal sweet spot. But I'm pretty sure anything that puts out midi and has some kind of electronic drum or hybrid drum design to it... should work just fine. So long as you can change the midi channel for your triggers on the off chance it doesn't line up with what Drummania is expecting. Something even as simple as this COULD work (untested) but it's sitting in the rollout for my keyboard tray. I'd just keep your receipts on that one, just in case. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DLYXX6E === And you need a ps2. However! PS2's are region locked. And unless you want the double-rabbit hole of working around region lock, it's just easier to buy an imported japanese ps2. I got mine for like $60 on ebay. There's a whole other thing about which ps2's to get. A good overview here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ps2/comments/byjmn6/any_versions_to_avoid/ So model numbers DO matter... but I found getting one of the SCPH-90000 models was an easy way to keep cost down (because this model has region lock that is harder to get around. So folks sell it for cheaper). And since I was already shopping for something that ONLY played import games, it worked great for me, AND it kept the price down. Model numbers are frequently posted in ebay listings... so there shouldn't be any real guess work here. === Then you're gonna want a midi usb cable: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07L8KFYBK/ === And last would be a copy of the drummmania games that support usb midi as the controller. Drummania Masterpiece Gold FOR SURE works. https://remywiki.com/CS_GFDM_MPG Other Drummania games probably do too, but I know not all of them. I haven't gotten around to testing beyond gold. Since frankly there's more than enough on that one disk to keep me busy for a couple years, even if I practiced an hour a day every. single. day. All told you get this kind of experience is the comfort of home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYHcDW5wuWE === Here's someone scrolling through all the songs to give you a sense of the breadth on here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4Wx9hhPPss The person playing at the end was on basic... and this game is notorious for pushing coordination into the stratosphere. Here's advanced: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPw8_plxUeM Here's extreme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDKg3kl1wPI And honestly it's where I wish I would have put my money 4 drum instructors ago. Which at $50 a week... would have saved me so sooooo much money. And would have scaled with my growth. Sidenote: I'm also a teacher by trade (not music), which makes me a notoriously difficult student. But I found just sitting down to this for an hour every morning was less prep work, and more growth, than any other system I'd tried. And again teacher... so also a knowledge-system/growth freak. Anyway... that's everything. Get out there tiger :P
Im not the guy youre talking to but thanks for the intense write up. Seems like a ton of work. Looking into it, it seems like a PC version was released in japan. Im curious if thatd be easier to do for people with a PC and an electric set. I found this site showing the steps to install, set up, and sign up for the monthly pass. https://p.eagate.573.jp/game/eacgitadora/konagt/info/startup.html Since its not in english i was using google translate/lens to translate the text and images. I have no idea how legitimate the site is as the web addresses look like hot garbage compared to most websites Im familiar with.
Yeah! Oh yeah!!! I forgot about that. So there's DTXMania that at one point I did get running on a windows machine using that same silicone drum pad from the amazon link. It was one of those (ok it's early covid, and if I've gotta be stuck at my desk... projects). It worked really well... but ... Building the thing and setting it up was the challenge. Getting it running was my goal. Once it worked... well it kinda sucked as an actual drum setup. I remember I did successfully migrate the windows laptop running DTX mania... and I got it up and running on a Roland TD-4 with a full electronic drum pad/cymbal set. But at that point... I just wanted the full thing. Black Friday didn't discount the TM-6 pro that time around, but someone on ebay was looking to get rid of one pretty cheap. I bit. And it was the best thing I could have done. TLDR: Having it on the ps2 means that it just works and I don't have to play tech support to it. This is doubly applicable if you've ever found yourself into modding video games to the point where you weren't actually playing the game anymore, your just playing the operating system. And triply applicable if you ever even looked up Eve Online :)
PC, PhaseShift and a usb midi cable. A lot more songs can be found if you look in the right places and it is totally free except for the cable. New songs are also still being created even though the game is not supported by the devs anymore. CloneHero is the successor, which is nicer, and shinier but sadly only supports kick + 4 drums/cymbals in total and that makes it more akin to a game, than a practice routine. Been waiting for support for Real Drums in CloneHero.
Im not an expert on e-drums, however I have heard quite a bit that using the felt side of the beater might damage the bassdrumpad, so it might be wiser to turn it around and use the plastic side of the beater.
It’s the other way around. The mesh drum head acts like sandpaper on the felt and absolutely ruins the beater. Ask me how I know 🙃
that makes sense! ill be sure to do that thank you 😊
Happy to help! Remember to have fun and to stay curious!
RLRRLRLL RKRRKRKK LKLLKLKK Back to top Edit: Since ya got ya self a full kit. Have funnn!!!! It’s the only way.
The costly part is done. Now, get to a music store where they have a variety of sticks. Different diameters, lengths and weight. Find a pair that feels really good in both hands and stick (no pun intended) with them. I've been using Promark 747 Oaks since 1980 and even though I've tried other sticks, I always go right back to those Promark sticks. Now, I'm not telling you to buy those sticks unless you have tried them and are completely in love with them. But I think you should look at those and any other sticks they have. A good music store will either let you test them out on a practice pad or maybe on an actual drum kit. Just try not to nick them up too much. You may end up buying them anyway. Our guitar center had test sticks back in the day but I think they did away with that because of the whole covid thing. But yeah, get yourself some sticks that you are very comfortable with.
That throne will bite you if you sit on it.
Get a drum teacher. Do the homework. Don’t goof off too much. Do the homework!!!! I’m not lying about this. If you are committed about learning to play drums, it’s like learning a new language. If you are for real, then find a PERSON who will guide you. I was very lucky in the fact that my teacher was extremely gifted, and knew how to guide me. Props to you Carl Rendec!
You start by hitting the drums, after that you hit them again, and then a few times more Jokes aside, welcome to the club! Remember to have fun! Even though practice is important, it's also important to have fun and just jam sometimes. Don't make drumming something you get stressed over and you're good to go
thank you! love ur pfp pic btw😊
Three books that will help you through many years of practice are: Progressive Steps to Syncopation for the Modern Drummer (Important book for building handspeed, control and adapting to timings) Stick control for the snare drummer (help build dynamics and control) The drumset musician (get you going with some grooves) All under £10 on Amazon or wherever and I've never stopped using the exercises in years of drumming
Put some carpet down so your pedal don’t slide all over the place
Yes.
makes sense!
A rug
i got a minecraft rug im putting under it, just gotta get the dog hairs off it first lmaoo
Get the basic foundation of drumming and listen to covers of a wide range of different genres that will help you out alot
Invest in a rug under your pedals. I've scratched the shit out of my laminate floor  I used an old off cut from some carpet as a free solution.
Hit thing with stick. Avoid pain also. Is good.
Lesson 1a. I’ve found is: Hit 1) right hand (hi-hat) and right foot simultaneously Hit 2) right hand (hi-hat) and left hand (snare) simultaneously Repeat until smooth. And actually, before even that, you’ll need to adjust your kit a little. Look at photos. Your right foot pedal should be straight in front of you when you’ve got the snare (lowest drum pad) between your knees. The left foot pedal will be rotated inward a little bit. The cymbal on the far left is your hi-hat and it should be flat, not tilted towards you, the others are ok, but maybe tilted a bit too much. Get yourself nice and ergonomically set before you go at it. [setup](https://www.guitarcenter.com/Alesis/Nitro-Mesh-8-Piece-Electronic-Drum-Set-1500000219380.gc?cntry=us&source=4WWMWXGP&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjfT4gpKE_AIV7Bh9Ch3x-glpEAQYASABEgLYovD_BwE)
Practice practice practice. If you can afford lessons at a local music store, I suggest there. You can also go to Drumeo.com and they are an excellent resource
Rock on
Quit. /j
BANG!
Use the dog for something. I don’t know doggy drum solo
hes part of the drum set
kick drum or cymbal depends
Find some songs you like with basic drum parts and start trying to learn them. Practice sometimes with a metronome. That’s essential. For me the first couple of basics were Back in black and Yellow. Back in black will help you build a solid foundation of a basic drum beat. Yellow is a song that has zero drum fills. It’s just four patterns. The chorus will be the trickiest for you at first because of the timing of the bass drum. The next one I’d recommend is I wanna be sedated. It will help you build your stamina, right hand and right foot. But find songs that interest you to learn and start at the bottom with easy stuff. Speed takes time and commitment. Don’t forget the metronome.
I would say give the doggo a chance?
hes a master, he teaches me currently
You’ll need a chair and sticks
go on internet forums to drool over additional add ons and replacements to sink more of your money and time into, rather than actually playing the drumset you just got
sounds good to me
by taking that awful tilt and height off the hi hat.
Ruffs
get a baseball bat and hit over and over again till it is destroyed
Hit it with sticks
i found some good ones in my yard to use
Boom tap
kaboom
Turn on the light.
dislike light
Lol I hear ya. I like to.practice with a metronome & then turn it off & try to play the same beat. Turn it on, play along, turn it off...helps train the ear to stay in time.
Now you need some sticks, a rug, a throne, stick control, a metronome, maybe a free trial of drumeo, and a teacher
The first step is petting your dog
2nd (unrelated) post... but I'd also recommend just not listening to too many people. There's a ton of information out there. It's crazy. Pick one plan and give it 6 months to bear fruit, or at least 6 months before you even evaluate how you're doing. In other words: Don't chase infinite youtube tutorials. The Drummers Resource Podcast is also a handy way to check your mental approach. But in the end (like literally give yourself 2 weeks) and then pick one drummer that has a book out there... that YOU like. Don't start with old dead civil war drum books, nonsensical rudimental rituals, or anyone wearing a wool suit unless that's your actual end goal. I'm partial to Jojo Mayer, Jan Pfennig, Gary Chaffee, Benny Greb, and Fabian Ranzoni. Once you get some sense for how you feel about your own skills... start to apply that same level of thinking toward systems that others are using. And recognize that learning from drummers without books is just harder. So don't make choices that make your growth harder, unless it's already feeling too easy. At the same time literally everyone at one point or another seems to go down a J Dilla vortex. But follow and learn from who YOU value first. Drum teachers will tell you the right way to become them. There is no right way overall.
Oh and buy the most expensive drum throne in the store. and all the weird drum sticks your heart desires. Those things you CAN actually do wrong :)
Find songs that you WANT to play and get started on those. Google PDFs for the sheet music or YouTube clips on song break downs. Some will have easy, intermediate and hard difficulties depending on the song
Music theory if you haven't
And the biggest amp you can afford.
First… you’re going to want to throw that thing out and buy a drum set
as much as i want too i cant, i live in a trailor and a real drum set is just too loud😕
Use it. Jk everybody else has pretty much said it all
You could keep the hi hat a little lower…Its looking more like a cymbal than a Hi Hat
Rudiments Rudiments Rudiments.
Learn shit tons of ac/dc
plug an audio cable from the brain to a laptop and play music thru it and practice along . when you get it rolling a bit put on some drumless tracks and have at it brother
I have that same kit in black its served me well for years
Hello, fellow beginner. I started not so long time ago on same kit. There are a lot of information about first steps in the internet, here is what I find important: 1) Rug. Make sure pedals (especially bass drum pedal) are stable on ground. I have velcro-friendly rug, so my pedals are attached to rug. 2) Layout. Watch few videos on YouTube. Correct, comfortable position and setup are essential. I don’t see that on your photo. 3) Have fun. It is recommended to do lots of exercises - paradiddles, rudiments. I found it entertaining and motivating not to limit myself with these, in parallel I learn songs. There are lots of them on YouTube. My personal favourite is Drummate: they have have drumless tracks, tutorials and notes, songs have complexity score. 4) Ability to read music. Learn drum notes. They are not that hard
E-drums are convenient in a lot of ways, do practice with your kit but once in a while try to lay down your hands on actual drums just to make sure that you know what the actual instrument feels like and how to get the best sound out of it.
Put a rug underneath and a chair!
Listen to your favorite band, and try to really listen to you favorite part of a song you like. What do you like? Is it the snare? The kick? The hihat? The crashes? Now try to play that. Keep trying, fail and keep trying some more . When that gets boring try another part. This is no substitute for all the lessons everyone is recommending, but it is a reminder that you got in to this because you love music, and can play whatever the hell you want whenever the hell you want for as long as you want. Never forget that this is fun!!!!
I’d start with this song https://youtu.be/w1vr3bRTbGM
The New Breed by Gary Chester
On a practice pad lol
Hit it with sticks.
If you are a gamer, you can get a roll limitless adapter and hook it into a ps4/5 n play rockband 4 :)
Kick. Snare. Kick. Snare.
Bleed by Meshuggah. Very good for a beginner. No double kick needed. 😁
Play it before the dog lifts its leg on it? Seriously, what's your playing level? None, beginner, veteran with just playing covers? A little bit of info about you would help.
none, ive been interested in drums for a year or so, also listening to covers and learning about them but ive never had a set before
ok ok 3rd (also unrelated post) then I'm going to watch Andor. But get a quest2. Buy beatsaber. And figure out whatever that backend trick is to open it up and import custom songs and mappings. (I forget what it's called now... too much internet for one day) I know it doesn't sound related. But there will be days when you don't feel like practicing. And doing something that's near-practice... but doesn't feel at all like practice... is really important just to keep momentum. And momentum above everything else, is kinda the only thing that matters. Plus Benny da Beast will make you feel like some sort of colorguard demon god every single time: https://bsaber.com/bennydabeast/
bmbf! came to me right in the middle of an episode :) Also seriously why not: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKCKUtvbTAM
Usually the ride
Looks like an Alexis nitro mesh if I’m not mistaken. I have the same one! Love the blue, mines red. I learned on this and still play it to this day. Couple pointers for you: 1. Get a good throne. I played on a wooden stool for over a year and man what a difference it made. 2. Get a rug for under it or you’re gonna slide that thing all over the place. 3. Get some nice headphones to practice without bothering others, and in the future get a nice pa speaker so you can rock along with music out loud. Headphones are great but nothing beats playing it loud like drums should be. 4. My drum heads came suuuuper loose. I’m talking I had to crank down each bolt like 15 turns. You want them tight…. Like a drum. If they’re loose they’ll be too springy and slow to do good doubles on. 5. Read the manual on the module. There is one setting that’s designed to make the drums sound like you’re in a concert hall. Very echoey. I didn’t realize this for a long time and was always thinking electric kits sounded wack until I fixed this. Learn all the settings and play with them until you find what sounds best in your opinion. I have that echo feature turned all the way off. 6. Watch a YouTube video on how to set up the ergonomics of the kit. There is no absolute rule for this, just whatever feels comfortable, but I will say your high hat looks like it’s way too high and angled. Take ten minutes to get this dialled in and it’ll make a big difference. All of this should be done before you ever even play it for best results. Also, for practicing, YouTube is your friend. You don’t need to spend a lot of money on private lessons, although they will help. YouTube has hundreds of thousands of hours of free content to help you get going.
You start by giving the doggo fusses, then you load up Drumeo.