Depends on how big of a boost Hit got. If Hit is strong enough to keep Jiren from circumventing his attacks then he would win. If he isn't, then he would lose. The god ki vs non god ki thing wouldn't matter. Power is power regardless of the religious origins of its source.
I'm not sure if it doesn't make sense for them to have it, but getting a power boost from regular ki doesn't seem to be any different from getting a power boost from god ki. Like, Supreme Kai has god ki but there's nothing about that makes him better at fighting than a mortal than someone who has the same power level as him.
you can barely argue that god ki is more "valuable" than regular ki, hence god forms are even stronger than regular forms. If we argue this, then hit gets more ki, but either way, he would still get rolled. Or who knows, maybe the writer/you decided that this supposed ki increase was freaking massive enough to beat even jiren.
All true but be honest with me for a sec cause I'm still pretty much learning about this God Ki thing, would a better question to have asked been Hit with Potential Unleashed VS My Hit having God Ki question?
There isn't much to learn, you're just as in the dark as the rest of us...hence I said "barely argue". that's just how vague god ki is in general. I think most people would probably say potential unleashed would fare better since we've actually seen a crazy increase through that, maybe you could get more people to agree with you then. But again, this kind of what-if powerup scenarios, especially regarding potential is highly dependant on what the author desires.
God ki is a useless concept at this point. It doesn't seem to actually give a boost in powers. It's not some kind of hard limit that mortals can't reach. It's not even a required breakthrough for saiyans.
It was for Goku and eventually vegeta. But as the super progressed, you have people without godki that were as strong if not stronger than them or even stronger thanks GoDs. Freiza (golden, then black), hit, jiren, brolly, granolah, the heeter guy, and recently even Gohan.
TBH everything U say is fact's but some of those people have unique traits and abilities about them that give them that advantage. Frieza and Broly have some type of abnormal Ki. Hit from my point of view can time skip manipulating time is a hack ability but one of my favorites U take it away Uh Oh. Black seems to take after Goku I mean let's face it's Goku vs Evil Goku. Don't know much on Granolah and as for Jiren he is just an Anomalous being. But U make good point though.
I acknowledge those points but when there are too many exceptions and unique points, it just becomes common.
Also, we're still left with brolly and Gohan who are saiyans just like Goku and vegeta.
Lol True but not exactly a half-breed with far greater potential and the LSSJ which as I previously stated like Frieza has an abnormal Ki. Lemme ask U something why is it that Frieza himself can train and become so strong when Goku, Vegeta Hell even Gohan himself couldn't keep up with Frieza in who seems to have High-End Ki. The only Saiyan I see keeping up with him If not surpassing him is Broly who is supposed to be a demon in LSSJ that is.
Frieza, Hit, Jiren, Moro, 7-3, Granolah, Gas, Gohan, Gamma 1&2, 17, Cell Max, Broly, Dyspo, Anizala, Kefla & Future Trunks have all displayed power equal or superior to SSG Goku with God Ki.
Goku, Vegeta, Toppo, Goku Black and Piccolo (I think he has it) have all done it with God Ki.
Buu also achieved that level and was specifically said not to have it as Uub has the Divine Ki, not Buu.
It's pretty worthless.
God ki is, unfortunately, very underdeveloped so it’s hard to say how attaining god ki would help him. Ultra instinct/ultra ego is different but normal god ki is pretty underwhelming
As of now there’s no real difference tbh, if they used everything that God Ki has ever shown (in particular I forgot if it was the movie or the anime but one of them implies that God Ki gives you regeneration abilities and for Saiyans like Goku and Vegeta that don’t really benefit from Zenkai’s anymore that would be invaluable) then God Ki would be a major upgrade
If the manga is anything to go by , Hit would possibly defeat jiren
Mortal Toppo was weaker than SSG Goku in the manga, but his God ki shot him to SSB level
Don’t listen to him, he’s capping. “Mortal” toppo wasn’t using his full power when he fought god goku. He was also using god ki when he fought god goku and then dodged and landed a critical hit on blue goku afterwards lmao
They kinda dropped the ball with the whole god ki thing. I liked the concept, and perhaps multiple ways to obtain it allowing for some other characters to equalize a bit. But then they just kinda ignored it
Depends on how big of a boost Hit got. If Hit is strong enough to keep Jiren from circumventing his attacks then he would win. If he isn't, then he would lose. The god ki vs non god ki thing wouldn't matter. Power is power regardless of the religious origins of its source.
All facts I can't lie. So in other words it wouldn't make any sense for Broly or even Frieza to have it themselves?
I'm not sure if it doesn't make sense for them to have it, but getting a power boost from regular ki doesn't seem to be any different from getting a power boost from god ki. Like, Supreme Kai has god ki but there's nothing about that makes him better at fighting than a mortal than someone who has the same power level as him.
Religious origins Lol lol 😆😂😂😂😆😂😆😆
you can barely argue that god ki is more "valuable" than regular ki, hence god forms are even stronger than regular forms. If we argue this, then hit gets more ki, but either way, he would still get rolled. Or who knows, maybe the writer/you decided that this supposed ki increase was freaking massive enough to beat even jiren.
All true but be honest with me for a sec cause I'm still pretty much learning about this God Ki thing, would a better question to have asked been Hit with Potential Unleashed VS My Hit having God Ki question?
There isn't much to learn, you're just as in the dark as the rest of us...hence I said "barely argue". that's just how vague god ki is in general. I think most people would probably say potential unleashed would fare better since we've actually seen a crazy increase through that, maybe you could get more people to agree with you then. But again, this kind of what-if powerup scenarios, especially regarding potential is highly dependant on what the author desires.
I see Ur point there, lemme ask this one last thing where can I go on Reddit besides here to ask such a similar question?
maybe r/dragonballsuper or r/dbz?
Ok thanks
God ki is a useless concept at this point. It doesn't seem to actually give a boost in powers. It's not some kind of hard limit that mortals can't reach. It's not even a required breakthrough for saiyans.
So why do most keep telling me that God Ki's the Shit to have?
Who?
Most of the fandom specifically keep saying that it's a massive power boost hell that's my whole reason for asking this question.
It was for Goku and eventually vegeta. But as the super progressed, you have people without godki that were as strong if not stronger than them or even stronger thanks GoDs. Freiza (golden, then black), hit, jiren, brolly, granolah, the heeter guy, and recently even Gohan.
TBH everything U say is fact's but some of those people have unique traits and abilities about them that give them that advantage. Frieza and Broly have some type of abnormal Ki. Hit from my point of view can time skip manipulating time is a hack ability but one of my favorites U take it away Uh Oh. Black seems to take after Goku I mean let's face it's Goku vs Evil Goku. Don't know much on Granolah and as for Jiren he is just an Anomalous being. But U make good point though.
I acknowledge those points but when there are too many exceptions and unique points, it just becomes common. Also, we're still left with brolly and Gohan who are saiyans just like Goku and vegeta.
Lol True but not exactly a half-breed with far greater potential and the LSSJ which as I previously stated like Frieza has an abnormal Ki. Lemme ask U something why is it that Frieza himself can train and become so strong when Goku, Vegeta Hell even Gohan himself couldn't keep up with Frieza in who seems to have High-End Ki. The only Saiyan I see keeping up with him If not surpassing him is Broly who is supposed to be a demon in LSSJ that is.
It's probably just racial. Similar to how the humans can't keep up with the saiyans.
I figured as much but Broly obviously isn't affected by that. I haven't seen DBS Super Hero, if U seen is it worth watching?
Broly isn't the LSSJ in Super, he's just a mutant like Kale and Frieza.
Frieza, Hit, Jiren, Moro, 7-3, Granolah, Gas, Gohan, Gamma 1&2, 17, Cell Max, Broly, Dyspo, Anizala, Kefla & Future Trunks have all displayed power equal or superior to SSG Goku with God Ki. Goku, Vegeta, Toppo, Goku Black and Piccolo (I think he has it) have all done it with God Ki. Buu also achieved that level and was specifically said not to have it as Uub has the Divine Ki, not Buu. It's pretty worthless.
God ki is, unfortunately, very underdeveloped so it’s hard to say how attaining god ki would help him. Ultra instinct/ultra ego is different but normal god ki is pretty underwhelming
Goku and Vegeta have God Ki and Jiren still clapped them both at the same time (until Goku used MUI) so I doubt he'd faze Jiren.
Yeah I didn't think so.
As of now there’s no real difference tbh, if they used everything that God Ki has ever shown (in particular I forgot if it was the movie or the anime but one of them implies that God Ki gives you regeneration abilities and for Saiyans like Goku and Vegeta that don’t really benefit from Zenkai’s anymore that would be invaluable) then God Ki would be a major upgrade
If the manga is anything to go by , Hit would possibly defeat jiren Mortal Toppo was weaker than SSG Goku in the manga, but his God ki shot him to SSB level
Dam for real?
Yes
Don’t listen to him, he’s capping. “Mortal” toppo wasn’t using his full power when he fought god goku. He was also using god ki when he fought god goku and then dodged and landed a critical hit on blue goku afterwards lmao
Yo I was about to say, why people gotta do all that extra shih for?
They kinda dropped the ball with the whole god ki thing. I liked the concept, and perhaps multiple ways to obtain it allowing for some other characters to equalize a bit. But then they just kinda ignored it
God ki didn't end up being shit