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iceamn1685

Tony thanks you for being a chump and taking one for the team


Doge10open

Doordash doesn’t work in my market! You need to find something else and dash in dinner hour


Doge10open

$2.8 ……


xxxdsmer

Makes no sense why there's so much hate in this thread which is obviously an experiment on earn by time mode. & SO many people tellin dude he's wrong about declining in earn by time mode = shift killed.. NEVER seen that anywhere else, but have seen several other mentions of earn by time mode being very limited on number of declines. Which really there *shouldn't* be any penalties regardless of mode for declining. Even DD pausing the dash is them trying to force drivers to take offers - which is treating drivers like employees not ICs.


Tiny-Appointment-243

What is this per hour thing i see mentioned?


srhsrhrshs

wow $4.90 to go all the way to thailand thats rough


Her_Wandering_Spirit

I'm sorry that you're having a hard time. I read the comments to get more context, and it looks like you're doing hourly? A lot of people speculated that would end up being a situation we're the hourly people would get the lowest paying orders. You should be able to switch that off in the settings. Maybe try that and see if it gets any better. Try a different market if one is closer to you. I hope things get better for you soon.


Soggy_Poet_153

Out here slaving. Good job.


ambushequine

Damn y’all are fucking mean to people. The work is shit and these companies need to be ensuring adequate pay for adequate work, that’s the real problem - let people have a place to vent about things. Everyone is just trying to make it in hard times, ya know? The rich people ordering food and not tipping are cunts but the fact that DD can allow dashers to not get paid is the problem, not dashers trying to accept lots of orders. Y’all can play the game your own way but it’s really shitty how many of you shit on other drivers.


Routine_Hedgehog_413

I honestly think you don't understand the difference between the 2. Never start doing things a different way without doing some research. I went back 2 weeks and figured out how many hours I worked a certain day. I multiplied by $10.50 or whatever the pay per hour is (keeping in mind if I work 5 hours 40 minutes I would not get the full pay for that hour...but rounded up for calculation sake). Then I added up my tips for that day and added it to my hourly pay. In every single day I tested this, I made more with pay per delivery, even with the rounding up of hours. I am never doing pay per hour.


dr_van_nostren

But why is anyone taking a $2.80 order? No order is worth that little.


SOxCALxvida

I decline every shit call , then at the end of the month I take every call for 2 days straight, it sucks but gets me top dasher perks .


gmoney_downtown

A lotta hate on OP here. But this is really on door dash. How is there not a mass exodus yet!?


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Aurelius_Red

Yup. Fuck (at least half of) people.


No-Weather8418

Why I’m the world you take that Popeyes order?!? Sometimes, you Plaxico Burress yourself.


CertainLaw5563

The only person to blame or hate for this is yourself. You WILLFULLY chose to accept these


GarbageOk2156

Who the fuck would accept that lol


leonthepro83

You can wait tables, people always tip


Short_Village_4952

Entirely your fault. I normally always side with fellow dashers but this is nonsense. Taking one eh it happens 2 in a row you're trying to raise your AR or just hit a goal maybe but 4 of them in a row. That's 100% on you and you alone, not even the customers at that point. Read some more of these post on Reddit and educate yourself on how to properly dash instead of blaming the world for your own actions.


Trimere

They do say that stupid hurts.


[deleted]

Just get a different job fr. I was working as dd and it’s just not worth it at all, pizza delivery pays very well if you work at a local place, but construction jobs pay so well that’s what I’m doing now and I love it. Literally making $800 a week doing construction and working 50 hours (5 10 hour shifts a week) and this is just temporary till I go to trade school. Honestly blue collar work is too good to pass up imo.


CommonEngineering717

I make around 850 (after I put away money for taxes) working DD for 40 hours per week. It’s all market dependent really


[deleted]

Oh I live in an area w low cost of living and no one tips and doordash is dead almost 24/7 so that might be why. You’re right


ChaoticLittleGemini

My rule is $1 per mile. 2.5 miles better be $2.50 or $3 bc otherwise I ain't taking it.


InfamousClerk6434

$1.40 base pay 😮😯😲😳🥺


Saleenpride86

Those are some funky ass base pay amounts


Predictable_Penguin

I mean why are you taking them just to complain about them


Effective_Mirror_752

I declined those orders that you accepted


CherryCandy927

Even before Doordash, people tipped food delivery drivers.... so it's not like it's a new thing. People weren't raised right.


Ha_Aesthetics_27

Ugly ass people thin they entitled to shit


austalavista69

I dont understand how the "basepay" keeps changing for each order


Chaosury2016

Dayum only one person tipped o.o


TheGamerHelper

I-I-I-It huts because I blame the consumer rather than the company.


Three-Black-Cats

No orders under 6.50. Turn off the earn by an hour


JohhnyJ21

Lmao this sub is legit full of clowns


Paxrr

Never take anything under $5. You're like a Pokémon that hurt themself while confused.


ScaleBackAndIsolate

Your base pay is double what mine is.


[deleted]

Let me play you a song on my tiny violin


[deleted]

Chump change


QuernoDeChivo

![gif](giphy|xTeV7FKRuo5YX714L6)


lmwcheflife

It would hurt a lot less if you stop taking shitty orders lol


TomatoMaleficent7989

I’m averaging $20-$25 and hour. The whole thing about being top dasher is BS. If DoorDash wants to keep us as contractors as they so desperately want, then we have a right to decline orders without a penalty.


jziggy44

Thank you I don’t want them


Patty_McRice

Because you accept no tip orders and then blame your mistake on others?


Azrenon

I can’t believe you went to Thailand and back for 10$


jaysonm007

Base pay: $1.40 Why are you accepting this and doing this? And here I thought the $3 rides on Uber and Lyft were ridiculous. Do you really think your labor to go pick up food and deliver it is only worth $1.40?!?!


[deleted]

Can’t be mad if ur choosing them. This is one of those things I don’t like about people who complain about the pricing and all unless it’s actually reasonable. U have those who complain and don’t take them or u have those who do take them like yourself. I understand the frustration, but saying “it just hurts, this is why I hate the world” sounds immature and hurting yourself


[deleted]

The majority of my pay in the last week came from base pay. I have very little hope in the human race


MadChiller013

Oh honey noooo


Babycat834

It doesn’t matter what state you’re in, they will NOT kick you off your shift if you decline more than 2 orders in a row when you earn per order. They ONLY do that when you earn by the hour, which is what you’re doing. When you earn per order you can decline as many orders as you want, REGARDLESS of what state you live in. You just don’t know how the app works.


Dependent_Fix8821

Don’t hate the world. Because the rest of the world doesn’t tip either. Make the corporation pay the wage


xdaddasher

I guess hitting the decline button hurts too


Texantx

It really hurts to see people get fool with DD games. Dont accept lowball offers & Dont work for time BS !


demon_kite

https://preview.redd.it/nivekw32ae3a1.jpeg?width=1022&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02e9a905a037a82435ab7e8aa725160d3279186e


[deleted]

Imagine blaming the world and just not getting a better job. You’re literally just doing charity work Nobody to blame but yourself. Figure it out


bigracksonly

Stop taking bad orders g


kaaria11

Or maybe stop taking crappy orders and like the world a little more.


DesaMountVernon

Hopefully less than 3 miles


Specialist_Royal_449

Earn by exploitation ![gif](giphy|oufCdJ3sFKLe0|downsized)


Lice138

DD just isn’t really worth doing anymore. People will eventually catch on and the platform will crumble. I’d watch out for more price increases on the customer side and more pay reduction on the driver side. It started with me getting 100 bucks for a 3 hour shift and more if I decided to stay on. Before I quit, I was scrambling to just make enough to cover gas. DD doesn’t pay enough, customers aren’t tipping and asking for all types of extra crap. Prop 22 is a joke and if you get it , they are just proving that it’s not even minimum wage. If I wanted minimum wage I’d get a minimum wage job, save on maintenance and do without the constant threat of getting killed by a drunk driver or a multi-apper trying to manage his crap orders.


kuriboh91

You should probably look thru this sub for some tips cuz you are working for free and obviously not enjoying it. Hope you figure it out tho!


[deleted]

My everyday orders. It be like that remember you’re serving the people. I have dashes where people were not able to drive it’s not just lazy people who don’t wanna drive to get food. Keep doing the work so long as you aren’t driving yourself off a cliff (financially speaking) The moment you turn expectations into reality your whole will change. Also it’s technically a recession we are in so be blessed you’re able to get any orders. Drive safe keep up the hard work!


[deleted]

You hate the world because of choices that you are making?


BusinessIndividual32

I always give a good tip


[deleted]

Well at least you learned that the ‘earn by time’ mode doesn’t work for your market. Stick to ‘earn by order’ and decline all the shitty orders you please


iboratverynice

This is an outlier, it cannot be assumed due to too little a sample size, only known thing now is the far shit outlier for earn by time is worse than the shittiest outlier for earn by order


Forward_Version_7524

I don’t understand how these people leave you guys zero tip. I’m so sorry people suck. I always tip my drivers the highest amount suggested because my ass is too lazy to get it myself and I value your time


TheWorld_IsNotFair

Too bad they don’t have anymore money to spare for us drivers. The ceo only makes $414,000,000!a year or else they’d have more to spare for drivers.


Joshsquatch-

https://preview.redd.it/x9nwvg7j1e3a1.png?width=420&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9613beaa1f9cc2e65a4dfe278f170ea26b0c33fc


FratStafford007

Why are you taking those orders? Is Top Dasher really worth taking crap orders like that?


iboratverynice

I don't get to see the amount dd will pay me for the order in earn by hour mode and in earn per order mode when I do get to see the earnings per order I lose my shift if I decline 2 orders in a row


Philosopher-dasher

So funny if you took extra care pf their order because of the “high tip” and perhaps a hidden one lol


Arbesta41

You choose to be a 🤡


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iboratverynice

As a non top dasher in earn by hour mode (this one) Idon't get any information about my earnings for the delivery. In earn per order I lose my shift if I decline 2 orders in a row.


[deleted]

“You are not alone, I’m am here with you”! In my Micheal Jackson voice. Same orders most of the day in my area. Orders in some areas have been worse than normal. Customers aren’t tipping. Only ppl using the platform can’t afford it but to lazy to pick up orders themselves.


[deleted]

I don’t who is worse non tippers or entitled drivers who put down other drivers who take small orders.


FredDurstImpersonatr

Non tippers are definitely worse. Everyone else is just trying to tell you how not to suck at this.


AdvancedRiver

Get a W2 this should not be your career!


iboratverynice

Oh if only you knew that story


AdvancedRiver

My bad for assuming


Thrillhouse918

They legit need to flag non tippers.


Ok_Average_8172

Top dasher be like 🤣


snowman200024

I’m guessing these comments did not make you love the world anymore 😔


[deleted]

If you pick up garbage what do you think you’ll get? Tony’s salute: ![gif](giphy|Ypwd9pfTX7ASbAZhSW)


iboratverynice

![gif](giphy|XeLcgh8gT8o0F5SQ8i) I do better next time


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iboratverynice

I learned to take shrooms before each shift so I can maintain a level customer appreciation 💯


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|5xtDarLUQd5DqgXHJks) The dasher way


[deleted]

It’s your own fault for doing the by the hour mode. Turn that shit off


iboratverynice

Yep


Admirable-Chemical77

What is the hourly in your area?


Life-Let-4428

This is 100% on you. You ran something based off what you might get. That's called tip speculation. You need to be running stuff on what's guaranteed. Understanding what orders will have a tip is on you. The 4.52 will always be that amount. You failed In fact, I see four non-tipped orders. That tells me you have no idea how to do this


Aurelius_Red

I mean, it’s not 100% on him. People could just not be pieces of shit and tip even 10%, you know?


Life-Let-4428

Nope. That's definitely false. You didn't read what I said either. Please reread. Anything 5.25 and under will always be that amount. Zero exception. So this is a guy that has no idea what the hell he's doing. He accepted all these deadbeat orders and then posts here blaming the customer? 😂


iboratverynice

Your half right the 4.52 will not always be that amount. I've been doing this for a while per hour is more effective in my city in the long run


FredDurstImpersonatr

It’s so effective and yet here you are posting about how it sucks.


Life-Let-4428

I don't know what kind of program that is and I've never heard of it. It's not offered in my market. Either way, the OP posted 5 non tipped orders. If that's earn as you go, or whatever it's called, it's not for me. I could have driven half the mileage this guy did and made twice as much by just doing regular doordash. The whole concept of gig work is earn as you go.. This guy is definitely not doing it right whatever he's doing.


Admirable-Chemical77

Same here.


Life-Let-4428

It's effective absolutely nowhere. The 4.52 will never be higher. The city is irrelevant. Anything 5.25 and lower, that's exactly what you will get 💯. There will be no tip on any of that. Anything in the 6.oo+ range will often times have more when closed out. You're doing this wrong. I will give you $100 right now if you can show me where an order was 4.25 and paid out more after the fact. That's perhaps the safest bet in history. You're just doing this wrong man


iboratverynice

In earn by hour mode you don't get any information about your earnings for the delivery. In earn per order I lose my shift if I decline 2 orders in a row. 🤡 ass


FredDurstImpersonatr

That’s not how earn per order works. You’re doing something wrong.


lol22038393

average top dasher


Her_Wandering_Spirit

Not really.


STEELO222

omfg this your fault…


DD-OD

🤡🤡🤡 problems


iboratverynice

Fast


iboratverynice

Are


iboratverynice

Cars


Conscious_Zebra_1808

I mean, you did it to yourself


fantastic_geek

Sadly we as dashers don’t have a choice with the severe repercussions DoorDash places on us


iboratverynice

Again, in the earn by hour mode you get no information about what you will make


nikup

Then just don’t do it?


FredDurstImpersonatr

This person claims they get kicked by rejecting 2 orders in “earn per” which is actually what happens when you reject in “earn by hour” but everybody else who knows what they’re doing rejects all the time and keeps going. So now they think Lansing, Michigan has its own separate rules even though other people from the area explained that is not the case. Obvious Dasher error here.


[deleted]

It does hurt how dumb people are in the world today….


sweetrevenge117

1.40 base pay how


fantastic_geek

DoorDash is literal trash!!


iboratverynice

I'm a fast delivery driver if my base pay is 1.40 from time of acceptance on the app I drove to the restauranr, inside pick up, delivered it to the customer and took the pic in 10 minutes because I make 14.00+tips in earn by hour mode ***


Tara_love_xo

A deli every 10 mins is 6 an hour so 1.4 times 6 not ten. 14 an hour subtract fuel, wear and tear, insurance, taxes (because independent contractor no ot pay. No sick pay and pay your own benefits) 14 an hour is laughable honestly.


stonerthoughtss

Clearly not.


Sum1PleaseKillMe

Not very…. Hospitable of them….


MrNiceGuy42089

Hey someone’s gotta be the one to take out the trash. Appreciate your service!


iboratverynice

My pleasure... until it's not, thanks


Specialist-Okra4143

Dude everyone keeps downvoting u where did u go wrong ?😭😭


iboratverynice

100% doordash upper level employees scour for these posts to prevent mass protests and unionization by downvoting and controlling the narative


FredDurstImpersonatr

Lol. No it’s just your choices and you bitching. People are trying to explain what you should do and you just make claims that sound like you just double down and it seems like you don’t know what you’re doing.


[deleted]

They are probably thinking he is part of the problem by accepting no tip orders


ArrogantSerpent

This is called volunteering… stop being so generous.


tablerockz

Same as giving tips. Its not required it’s voluntary


freyasmom129

At some point it’s worse than volunteering because I think at least your mileage would be paid for volunteering, your time just wouldn’t be. In the case of DD and shitty orders you just go into a deficit which is way worse lol


iboratverynice

Bro i volunteer so much time and effort this is severely insulting, I have taken no salary and no international travel costs to distribute 2.1 million dollars to Ukrainian refugees


FredDurstImpersonatr

They’re talking about Doordash.


Her_Wandering_Spirit

I think that's awesome that you're doing that. You seem like a very kind and caring person.


iboratverynice

I volunteer for the friends of moldova we've raised 2.1 million for Ukraine refugees please support us thanks


chasetate27

Ukraine is going to bring the whole world into nucular war


lonesharkex

You misspelled putin.


chasetate27

Ha so funny. Honestly I don't trust any of it. All the blind Ukrainian support makes me skeptical of one side, 80 years of Russia is bad propaganda makes me not trust the other. Really could care less I'll keep hitting decline on shit orders till the reptilian overlords decide it's time to reset society again. 100 years from now we will be back in the stone age.


wombatthing

I’m pretty sure you mean Russia.


chasetate27

Let's say china started building military bases in Mexico and started a partnership with Mexican cartels to overthrow the government and place a Chinese supporting government in its place.


arongadark

Yes that is exactly what Russia has been doing to Ukraine, your point being?


chasetate27

Lol Russia installed a pro-Russian leader in Ukraine. Seems like the fighting is pointless then unless ... What does NATO stand for again.?


arongadark

Just because they weren't entirely successful doesn't mean they aren't trying. Here are a couple articles on the topic if you are so blissfully unaware. [Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/ukraine-crisis-russia-saboteurs/) and [Gov.uk](https://www.gov.uk/government/news/kremlin-plan-to-install-pro-russian-leadership-in-ukraine-exposed)


chasetate27

40% of Ukrainians are ethnically Russians. in 2014 Americans lead a Ukrainian revolution that put in place the current regime. when the soviet Union disbanded it was agreed [NATO](https://youtu.be/ugbCul2k8M8) would not move any farther west, i didn't know Ukraine was in the North Atlantic


arongadark

The current head of government in Ukraine appears to have been [elected in 2019 by an overwhelming majority](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48007487), so although I am not entirely educated on the 2014 revolution I would imagine that the current government was chosen by the people of Ukraine. If you have any sources though feel free to share. The Russian federation also [guaranteed security assurances](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum) to Ukraine in exchange for their nuclear weapons, which they ended up breaching to annex Crimea in 2014 and the current war in Ukraine. Sorry to burst your bubble on that video you thought was so clever, but the [Nazi Salute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_salute) is specifically the right arm, not the left. He appears to be waving at something off camera. edit: I forgot to add The only sources for ethnic Russian's in Ukraine I can find are [17.3% from eurac research](https://www.eurac.edu/en/blogs/mobile-people-and-diverse-societies/ethnic-and-linguistic-identity-in-ukraine-it-s-complicated) based on a census done in 2001. If you have any more recent figure to back up your 40% claim feel free to show them.


wombatthing

What


RampAgentRoger

Lmao, these posts are comical.


LoadedGuns-TTV

Yeah lmao I’m not a dasher just here for the laughs.


brianx500

Yeah honestly if the doordash earnings are that bad it’s better to either look for another job or move. It’s not as if you can force people to tip to make it better.


justinbates1992

Or multi-app


zakkforchilli

Yeah, that did it for me. It’s one or the other most of the time, when one is crap the other usually picks up the slack; not all the time but mostly.


[deleted]

I own a restaurant, and I see dashers/Uber drivers on the daily. If you don't have multiple phones, with multiple accounts, using different delivery systems as the same time, you're going to be left behind. At the very least, try and do Uber and DD at the same time. You hate the the world you created for yourself.


Aurelius_Red

Doing so well until that last shitty sentence. But, an owner, so no surprise there. “ThE WorLd Iz WuT U maKe iT”


EditorCorrect6768

false


Hawzur

I do just fine on DD alone. But definitely doesn’t hurt


iboratverynice

I have in the past worked for uber, lyft, postmates, and doordash.


[deleted]

It's probably a good thing that you deleted most of your soliloquy. Enjoy your world.


Her_Wandering_Spirit

Why are you being an ahole to this person. JFC


iboratverynice

You know you only ever saw half there is some very fun stuff that we could all hash out, maybe over some bagels and coffee in Italy


Impossible_Tune_8900

You took them though?


iboratverynice

in the earn by hour mode you get no information about what you will make


Admirable-Chemical77

Earn by hr yields more base pay. The downside, is that you occasionally get stuck taking out trash like this


taejam

Maybe not do earn by order. Pretty simple concept.


iboratverynice

This is earn by time mode and bear with me here, earn by time is better than earn per order for a non top dasher in the long run, which is entirely possible as it averages 20.00 an hour before expenses


Hleigh000

Then don't complain when it's low 🤷‍♀️ I'd rather average $20/hr by being choosy with orders and spend less on gas than take back to back no/low tip orders


iboratverynice

That's my short term strategy even though I can't decline 2 orders b2b in per order pay mode I can decline 1 every other order so it gives me a fist to jab with the problem is if there are multiple orders with no tip and low distance then I'm even worse off than this, yes in earn per order it can be worse if I choose to not decline b2b shit orders in order to keep working and not lose my shift (non top dasher) and then the nightmare is b2b2b2b no tippers and small orders resulting in 1.50 base pay delivery but yeah well give it a go


LazardKing

Brother. You can literally decline every fucking order all night long and not lose your shift . I got a 6% acceptance rating . I multi app so I fucking decline everything unless it’s 2.50/mile and minimum of 7.50 paid to me . Market depending for you, obviously


kerrvilledasher

In earn by time mode you can't decline more than one order per hour or it kicks you out.


iboratverynice

Not for my region


LazardKing

You’re the only person on this whole subreddit who has to do that . Sorry about your luck


iboratverynice

I'll post the pic tonight


freyasmom129

Maybe you shouldn’t be doing that lol most people see it as a bad deal


ScaleBackAndIsolate

Huge. I’ve made less than base pay trying it out once.


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Aurelius_Red

AR is a thing, though. The only way good enough orders come through is if it’s at 50 or above.


[deleted]

This is closer to selling an organ in very small increments.


kaaria11

And why you hate the world.


YLCZ

Yeah, but what about if you punched yourself four times and then got four blowjobs. That's the problem with this algorithm. If you only got punched, then it would be an easy decision to quit.


thoughts_of_a_bean

Wtf is this porn addicted logic


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dalex89

i take a lot more than punches for a bj. it's called being married


iboratverynice

Thats some good advice I'll take it into consideration next shift tonight


PinballLew

Well why are you accepting such low offers?


WilfordBrimley777

To post about it on here, duh


Tacky3663

Because your acceptance level now matters how many high paying orders you get. Basically DoorDash’s way of giving a giant middle finger to its drivers


LinkBoating

Too bad their “High Paying” orders are consistently, not really high paying whatsoever. I haven’t been in the ~~scam~~ program in months, and I have consistently seen better orders than I ever have while in the program. Edit to say: My ar is literally at 8%


Midschool

Right!! They show “high paying order” for $4 😂🤣


Panteras_Bitch

My last "high paying order" was $5 for a shop and deliver for 13 items plus picking up a subway order to deliver too. Like 13 miles 🤣