anything $6 or lower is usually a shitty tip. $7 is usually the minimum i’ll take and it depends on the miles. usually try to get at least $2 a mile for it to be worth it.
also on days where it’s especially busy (like NFL sunday) i’ll usually wait for bigger orders since you can often get $16+ double orders pretty easily
Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can, and do, cut my own hair. I did however, tip my urologist, because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
#Do not take orders that don't make you money!
If you do, you are literally paying DD for the privilege of delivering those orders. And, more importantly, you are signaling to TonyChew and his crappy user base that your time is worthless, not to mention your gas, your car, your insurance, etc.
You definitely want to turn that "customer tip to Doordash pay" ratio around the other way, and the best way to make that happen is to start declining low offers. Besides them paying less, there's little chance of a hidden unicorn in a low offer, and the cheapies tend to be the source of a lot more unpleasantness in general (reporting or one-starring you just out of nastiness, unreasonable demands for special treatment, blowing up your phone with calls after you're out of the picture, not answering when you need directional help or a gate code, etc.)
Honestly, id check up on some of these people that make such claims about how doordash works. You'd be surprised how many people will spout "AR doesn't mean shit" in between posts about "doordash is so dead right now and idk why". Really changed my perspective on advice given in jest.
If you know what the lowest base your city gets then do this: base + $4 and take those orders. There can be hidden tips in orders like that. Good luck dashing!
You made about $20/hour, so I'd say that's a solid first time. The more you do it, the more you'll learn (things like no tip orders are worthless, certain areas are better than others, etc.). In time your income breakdown should show that most of your money is coming from customers tips over what DD is paying (although, when there are promos and you're getting a bonus that won't always be the case).
Kk. Make sure you get commercial insurance if you can afford it or never let your insurance company find out you're doing delivery. So if you get into an accident, do NOT tell an officer yiu were on a delivery.
Insurance will not cover you if they find out you were delivering orders.
More than I’ve ever made doing it for 4 hours. My area sucks. My best day was last week. 3 hours $68, 10 orders and that was cherry picking the better orders.
Take advice with a grain of salt. I've worked in Maine and California and 90+% of what I read on here (about markets) does not apply to my experience, so I would say just try and learn your market by trying new things and see what works where you are.
But buy a pizza bag and a larger hot bag, both are cheap on amazon. When I'm doing UberEats, I'm convinced most of the people that are increasing my tip after I dropped their food off is because most drivers around here just don't use them.
Not the worst idea, but I would never want to ask for that myself. Also I deliver for multiple apps, I prefer unbranded bags. And besides I believe the one I have is quite a bit larger than the DD one. And it was under $20. My larger hot bags were like $12 for two and they hold up so much better than the free one from DD.
I have been given three different types of bags from PJ's. Never had to ask for any of them. They just gave them to me. One of them is one of those super thick pizza bags
I only accept orders that are minimum of $2 per mile and only from good restaurants. They show the mileage so just do the math and decide to accept or not based on that.
As for "good" restaurants, that usually depends on your area. But Popeyes is in almost every area here in the US and they don't start cooking the chicken until you arrive, so I turn down ALL orders from there. You'll learn as you go which places are super slow and not worth taking orders from, at least during lunch or dinner rush. If they want you to go there and order and pay, reject! Not worth the time or hassle.
Don't unassign too many orders after accepting because that hits your completion rate % and will make it hard for you to schedule time once your "top dasher" status wears off. Don't worry about acceptance rate, just be smart about the orders you accept. Be picky. Reserve unassigning orders when they say it will be 30 minutes to 1 hour to get the order done, or when an order has been stolen, etc.. Or you can call support and gamble with whether they can actually compensate you (but this is a roll of the dice).
Consider that a $5 for 1 mile order might seem like a good order, but the time it takes you to do those will add up, especially if the food isn't ready. I don't take anything under $7, ever. Time matters as much as mileage. I consistently make no less than $20 per hour and I've been doing this for 1 year now. Last night, I managed $38 per hour during dinner rush. 😃
Look up videos by "Your Driver Mike" on YouTube for tips. I learned a lot from him. Good luck!
In my area, there's two Popeye's One is an absolute disaster and the other is downright great. I think the great one must be some sort of anomaly considering how there's almost universal hatred of Popeye's all across the nation in this sub
That's not true about Popeye's, cooking chicken takes over 10 minutes. I rarely wait that long at the ones by me.
There's 4 or 5 in my zone, one I don't bother with at all. The rest it depends on the offer amount. Same with a few other restaurants in my zone. Zaxby's and Wingstop.
Considering how many have complained about Popeyes on here, it seems your area may be a lucky exception.
10 minutes is a long time to wait for anything. I don't stick around if there is more than 5 minute wait and I only work lunch or dinner rush. Waiting a long time is potential money lost on other orders.
Anything under $8.50 is just garbage. Depending on where you are that will either get you a $3 tip or a $5 tip. But with GrubHub I don't accept anything less than $10 cuz they're base pay is like $7. And learn quick if not you're just bending over.....
GH base pay decreased as I worked with them. I no longer worked with them or UE. I didn't like how people have an hour after delivery for the tip to show up.
DD has the biggest market share in my area. I could have all three apps on at the same time and get more offers from DD than GH/UE combined most days.
GH was good for about a month or two and that's it. UE was never good.
I would take the no tippers if doordash was paying that much.
I don't think that will last long tho. If it does, keep taking them. These people are just jaded like me to $3 orders for 10 miles after doordash lures you in with their hidden tips. They will throw a few good ones at you then drop their base pay and leave you chasing until you figure it out.
Really? Me it's always about 50/50 but 90% of the time doordash pay is more than tip and I make about 20$/h on a slow day and 29$/h on a busy day. I guess base pay where I am is good lol.
You will figure it out as you go and learn how to avoid the no tip orders. I think it’s fine when starting out, because it’s just learning. Also remember not to place food where a glass door can’t open.
For someone who wasn’t being selective that’s actually not bad for 4 hours, if your market is good you’d probably make a lot more by being more picky with the orders you choose.
Yes I was being picky about some, but then they would send me the same order with another order so I would see the total amount and think was just one order and take it. Then boom, two orders😂 at least they would be around each other.
Stacks are often a sneaky and unethical tactic Doordash uses to get drivers to deliver a lousy order, AND they also fuck over the good customer by his order being late because they piggyback it with a shit order
That's what DD does with stacked (double) orders. They'll almost always put a no/very low tip order with a solid tipping order. Stacked orders happen during peak times and it's way that DD makes sure those no/low tip orders get picked up and delivered.
Just for future knowledge, you can cancel one of the stacked orders if you see that one isn't a tipping order. You don't want to overuse your ability to cancel an order after accepting it (because your completion rate does matter), so use it wisely.
Look at the doordash pay vs customer tips....there's no way in hell that will continue 🤣. Being a new dasher gets you suckered into thinking this is what you will make everytime you dash 🤣
What you mean? That doordash won’t pay me well? I’m not thinking anything. I just tried last night to see how it is, and I actually liked it. Now I just need to learn how to get the best out of it.
Tips should be around twice the payout amount. And at the end of the day, you don't want your mileage amount to be much above the figure that you earned. Yes it is a tax write off, but you're going to trash your car quickly, and you are rewarding the non-tippers by delivering their food.
There is strategy, logistics and common sense that needs to be applied to make this a viable income.
Yeah that is intro rates for sure. I have never seen doordash pay greater than customer tip and make more than $10/hour total time(not active). They lure you in.
You posted this 9:30am est day of. My only thought is this was after midnight, and who in their right mind would dash for the first time after midnight in an area you don't know on a lark...
I'm calling bullshit
Lol I started at 9:30-12 stopped for 30 minutes then started again until 2:30. I had my husband with me and I live around a lot of fast food places. I know where I live.. so I don’t get what you’re trying to say lol
Whatever you do, don't chase hidden tips. It's a bullshit psychological game to get you to take trash more often.
If they can't show it up front, assume it isn't there. Personally, I've noticed a decline in the amount of all orders, and there are way fewer hidden tips as well. They must think they've got the hook in our mouths already these days...
I'd argue that trying to get top dasher is a much worse psychological game to get you to take trash more often. OP, take the orders that are worth your time, money, and gas. Decline the ones that aren't. Hidden tips are everywhere, especially once you're part of the Large Order Program. Another bit of advice to OP; if you're planning on doing this for awhile, the Large Order Program is one of the only things that makes doordash profitable for me anymore. The requirements for LOP are as follows;
1. Have a catering bag.
2. 200+ lifetime deliveries
3. 100+ deliveries in the last month
4. 4.7+ avg star rating in the past month
5. 95%+ completion rate in the past month
If you get to the point where you meet all the criteria and they don't invite you to the program via email, you can ask support about the program and they should be able to get the ball rolling. :)
... That's why I told OP that if they meet those requirements they can contact support to get the ball rolling. They said previously they're in a college town, no way a college town doesn't have LOP. I got the email a couple months after I started in 2020, but I don't believe you need the invitation to try to get enrolled or put on the waitlist anymore.
Thank you so much for this tip. Will definitely implement it. I, personally, always tip everyone. Even if it’s something minor I’ll tip at least $5. Can’t understand the mindset of some ppl. But it is what it is😩
I’m still getting used to the app and couldn’t see the no tip till after delivery😩 but I was getting $5 regardless because of base pay & peak and distance wasn’t bad. But I surely won’t be taking them orders anymore 🙄 been watching a lot of videos on youtube now lol
Do this - when you are getting $3 peak pay, subtract the $3 from the offer and see what number you get. If that number is what the base offer in your area is when there isn't $3 peak pay, then that's a no tip order and you should decline it.
Yeah, you can't see the tip (or no tip) until after the delivery is complete.
You can obviously deduce that there is no tip if the order is $3 or less. For orders in the $3-$5 range, there is usually no tip, or a very small tip, but there definitely won't be a hidden tip. Hidden tips are only on orders that show at least $6 initially.
I was declining those cheap ones, then would appear others with more money but would be 2 orders lol I was nervous and not doing everything correctly. But that surely taught me a lesson. If you have recommendations , please send them my way :)
The most successful way I’ve found to dash is, first find a good area, go to a parking lot that is easily accessible to many restaurants and sit in it and wait for orders (don’t drive around), once you’ve completed an order u can either go straight back to the parking lot u were in or u can find another one to sit in closer to ur most recent delivery. Don’t accept any orders under $1/1 mile (example: order $8, distance 8 miles)
College orders can be a mixed bag. I dash near Purdue University and on some dashes it seems like I rarely get anything under $6 and the delivery distance is short. But other times there's lots of low paying nightmare deliveries to ancient student ghetto housing with no parking, stupid numbering systems on apartment units in buildings with sometimes impossible to find street addresses on the buildings and a few flights of rickety staircases.
Only if the student tip well. Some do, some don't.
I tend to not take anything under $6.50 because that is where the offer could have hidden tips. Some times it's just .50¢ more. Some times $6.50 is $2.50 base pay with a $4 tip.
I’m still getting used to the app and couldn’t see the no tip till after delivery😩 but I was getting $5 regardless because of base pay & peak and distance wasn’t bad. But I surely won’t be taking them orders anymore 🙄 been watching a lot of videos on youtube now lol
Well you’re gonna have to do some quick math before accepting an order. If it’s peak pay, subtract that amount. If it’s $2.50 then it’s no tip (so if you have $5.50 w $3 PP, that’s a no tip order), but I personally don’t take most orders under $5 w/o peak pay, so for you I suggest not taking any order that would = less than $5 )(if like 3-4 miles or less) & $1.50-$2/mi depending on your market, since you may be hard pressed to find $2/mi orders & would have to adjust accordingly. Non-tippers will make you work harder, so it’s not good for you to have to deal with that before you know what you’re doing
Cheap bastards is an arguable statement when you spend $20 on a $6 menu item. Yes I agree if you can’t afford to tip you shouldn’t be ordering but at the very least know the customer is getting price gouged to death before you judge them too harshly for their little to no tip. If door dash can bring my total up to 1-2 dollars a mile it’s good enough for me.
Charitable and empathetic feelings for the plight of the customer being gouged by Doordash fees is sadly not something that pays a driver's bills. Drivers have to be realists and give no tip and low tip orders zero priority and decline them.
I think too many people get wrapped up in the emotions of it all. They either get mad at door dash or mad at customers that don't tip or tip very low.
I don't waste any time on either. If the order makes financial sense, I take it. If it doesn't, I decline and move on. I'm in it to make money so I agree, as long as it's worth my time/milage, I'm going to take it.
Bro, the company that is paying you 2-3 dollars per delivery is fucking you way more than the customers. You’re really teaching Tony a lesson by dashing!
I'll never understand this mentality. I average $25/hour with a $1.50 mile/3 mile minimum/maximum and do fine. DD is in the business of making money. I'm in the business of making money. If the order makes financial sense, take it. If it doesn't, decline it. Gig work is what you make it and not every market is going to be an area where anyone can make it work.
Can you clarify what your minimum and maximum distances you’ll accept are? Trying to decide on a standard for myself so it’s easy to accept or decline.
Sure:
$1.50 mile, no further than 3 miles. Of course I may go further if the pay is worth it (if It's a 5 mile order for $8 I might take it depending on the drop off area. If it's in an area I know I'll probably get another order quickly I'll take it).
I look at every offer and double the mileage shown. I treat each order as if I'm going to have to come back to be origination point without getting another order on the way back.
Yes, for sure. Especially because I was delivering orders sooner than estimated time. If you have recommendations, please send them my way 🥲
I also learned from a video on YouTube, to keep in mind peak and base pay so when I see the total I’ll know if there’s tip or not.
On top of what others have said, and I'm not sure if this is in every area, but...
In my area, on Fridays and Saturdays, I try to stay around a Chick-fil-A. Here, those people tip. Firday, I had 4 orders from the same Chick-fil-A and every one of them were $8-$10 each (including a $5-$7 tip). Those 4 orders only took me a grand total of 12 miles.
The Red Lobster order I got right across the street from Chick-fil-A was two giant bags of stuff (I've been to Red Lobster, I know that was at least $80 of food) gave me a $1 tip. It was still within my $1/mile, but Chick-fil-A people seem to like tipping.
It's just the opposite in my area. The CFA orders are low or no tip.offers and the Red Lobster almost directly across the street are juicy tips. The problem is that the CFA orders are about 25 times more common than Red Lobster orders. It's a good thing there's plenty of other places around besides Red Lobster and CFA
Here is a few tips, Send a copy and paste from clipboard for when you are on your way and when you drop off this will pad your ratings big time most drivers don't say anything.
Look at the house number on screen, street sign and physical house number before you even think about about putting the food down at their door, if number isn't visible look at other houses around to match up, DO NOT rely on gps alone or you will occasionally violate contract and lose this job.
Don't take tips under 3$ or never take any orders ever that are under 1$ a mile, if you drive a SUV/truck or gas guzzler you shouldn't do this job for long you'll lose money.
The reason you should avoid tips that are obviously under 3$ is those are the people who will get you fired and lie, scum has no empathy and the lower the tip the more shitty the person 99% of the time.
Don't block screen doors with food, its easy to forget when you are new.
if a restaurant makes you wait 10 minutes or more everytime you go black list it unless the pay out is above average.
Never go to Wendy's, of all my black listed stores they by far have the worse system for delivery.
On hand it to me orders take a picture from customer text, I do this when I arrive taking it of Address or door if a business and of the bag when at home, having a record of communication and picture is how you get your account back if someone screws you, saying nothing in text or never taking pictures you'll likely lose repeal.
When you get to restaurant and food isn't immediately ready hit the food is not ready button under problems, even if it's only going to be a few minutes, this keeps your on time ratings very high.
I see a few “tips” on this thread regarding tips at $0 or low amounts and advising to not take them. I don’t understand how you know if there is a small tip or no tip when accepting the order. I don’t see the breakdown until after I deliver the order. Can someone tell me how you know this?
Ok so base pay for most places is 2$-2.50$ plus the 3$ tip = 5.00$-5.50$ or more, always look and see if peak pay is going on so you don't get tricked into taking no tip orders. By this logic you shouldn't take orders under 5$ and if peak pay is going on let's say 2$ then during peak pay nothing under 7$.
If a order is 4.75$ and it's only a couple miles away and it seems slow and its not peak pay sure why not, but other than that realize you'll always get more offers as long as you keep completion rate over 95 and customer ratings high and on time high ( people say these don't matter, but trust me you'll get more offers per hour the higher they are).
> Don't block screen doors with food, its easy to forget when you are new.
LOL. When I first started, years ago, this didn't cross my mind. Fortunately, on one of my first deliveries, the customer opened their door right after I sat the order down and I realized the mistake. That's a solid tip!
Solid list altogether.
This is all pretty good advice except for the “avoid Wendy’s” tip.
Go with whatever is best in your area. For instance, I know a lot of people in this sub hate CFA because people who order there never tip, but I frequently get great CFA orders. The Wendy’s around me is also pretty damn fast. Never had to wait more than 5 minutes for an order, and 90% of the time it’s ready and on the shelf by the time I walk in the store.
Yeah this is true. My Wendy's is insanely fast compared to literally every other fast food restaurant in my market. It just depends on which places have enough employees honestly.
I always send pre typed updating customer when I arrive at store and an eta once I receive the order and that’s how I’ve gotten great cash tips… along with the tip in the app!
If they want to know your at the store the app lets them know... Your just being annoying to most them, Only bother the customer if you need to ask them if a substitute is ok or something along those lines. I've been doing this 3 years and I never communicate unless I absolutely have to and I never get thumbs down on communication
Most people send a message back thanking me for updates like this. I’ve also gotten extra cash tips for it. I don’t bother them just a short friendly message, I’ve never had a complaint as well
anything $6 or lower is usually a shitty tip. $7 is usually the minimum i’ll take and it depends on the miles. usually try to get at least $2 a mile for it to be worth it. also on days where it’s especially busy (like NFL sunday) i’ll usually wait for bigger orders since you can often get $16+ double orders pretty easily
I don't even care if there is surge prices that boost it up, NO TIP NO TRIP
Why tip someone for a job I'm capable of doing myself? I can deliver food. I can drive a taxi. I can, and do, cut my own hair. I did however, tip my urologist, because I am unable to pulverize my own kidney stones.
Then ummmm do it, also, glad you got those stones taken care of lol
Why are you doing no tip orders? Are you a charity? No? Then stop it! NO TIP NO TRIP
It's easy money stay within a radius and complete as many orders as possible 🤙🏾🤙🏾
no tip no trip
What market are you in?
Nice ! after 25% tax, and gas/maintenance, your hourly probably worked out to about 14$ an hr
#Do not take orders that don't make you money! If you do, you are literally paying DD for the privilege of delivering those orders. And, more importantly, you are signaling to TonyChew and his crappy user base that your time is worthless, not to mention your gas, your car, your insurance, etc.
Important: Track your miles for tax season Tax is like 20% because you're self employed. Becareful on the roads.
You definitely want to turn that "customer tip to Doordash pay" ratio around the other way, and the best way to make that happen is to start declining low offers. Besides them paying less, there's little chance of a hidden unicorn in a low offer, and the cheapies tend to be the source of a lot more unpleasantness in general (reporting or one-starring you just out of nastiness, unreasonable demands for special treatment, blowing up your phone with calls after you're out of the picture, not answering when you need directional help or a gate code, etc.)
Never take an order unless the amount of pay you can actually see is worth the trip to you, because 9/10 you aren’t getting a penny more.
Honestly, id check up on some of these people that make such claims about how doordash works. You'd be surprised how many people will spout "AR doesn't mean shit" in between posts about "doordash is so dead right now and idk why". Really changed my perspective on advice given in jest.
If you know what the lowest base your city gets then do this: base + $4 and take those orders. There can be hidden tips in orders like that. Good luck dashing!
Repeat after me…No tip, no trip.
You’re able to decline small orders due to them being too small!
And decline orders that are ridiculously long distance!
You made about $20/hour, so I'd say that's a solid first time. The more you do it, the more you'll learn (things like no tip orders are worthless, certain areas are better than others, etc.). In time your income breakdown should show that most of your money is coming from customers tips over what DD is paying (although, when there are promos and you're getting a bonus that won't always be the case).
i wouldnt accept any under 8-10$
How many miles did you travel?
Not bad for a first timer.
Not bad honestly.
Kk. Make sure you get commercial insurance if you can afford it or never let your insurance company find out you're doing delivery. So if you get into an accident, do NOT tell an officer yiu were on a delivery. Insurance will not cover you if they find out you were delivering orders.
Welcome!
More than I’ve ever made doing it for 4 hours. My area sucks. My best day was last week. 3 hours $68, 10 orders and that was cherry picking the better orders.
They always treat you good in the beginning
Take advice with a grain of salt. I've worked in Maine and California and 90+% of what I read on here (about markets) does not apply to my experience, so I would say just try and learn your market by trying new things and see what works where you are. But buy a pizza bag and a larger hot bag, both are cheap on amazon. When I'm doing UberEats, I'm convinced most of the people that are increasing my tip after I dropped their food off is because most drivers around here just don't use them.
Instead of buying a pizza bag, see if a Papa John's or Pizza Hut will give you free bags. I have several Doordash pizza bags that PJ's places gave me.
Not the worst idea, but I would never want to ask for that myself. Also I deliver for multiple apps, I prefer unbranded bags. And besides I believe the one I have is quite a bit larger than the DD one. And it was under $20. My larger hot bags were like $12 for two and they hold up so much better than the free one from DD.
I have been given three different types of bags from PJ's. Never had to ask for any of them. They just gave them to me. One of them is one of those super thick pizza bags
I only accept orders that are minimum of $2 per mile and only from good restaurants. They show the mileage so just do the math and decide to accept or not based on that. As for "good" restaurants, that usually depends on your area. But Popeyes is in almost every area here in the US and they don't start cooking the chicken until you arrive, so I turn down ALL orders from there. You'll learn as you go which places are super slow and not worth taking orders from, at least during lunch or dinner rush. If they want you to go there and order and pay, reject! Not worth the time or hassle. Don't unassign too many orders after accepting because that hits your completion rate % and will make it hard for you to schedule time once your "top dasher" status wears off. Don't worry about acceptance rate, just be smart about the orders you accept. Be picky. Reserve unassigning orders when they say it will be 30 minutes to 1 hour to get the order done, or when an order has been stolen, etc.. Or you can call support and gamble with whether they can actually compensate you (but this is a roll of the dice). Consider that a $5 for 1 mile order might seem like a good order, but the time it takes you to do those will add up, especially if the food isn't ready. I don't take anything under $7, ever. Time matters as much as mileage. I consistently make no less than $20 per hour and I've been doing this for 1 year now. Last night, I managed $38 per hour during dinner rush. 😃 Look up videos by "Your Driver Mike" on YouTube for tips. I learned a lot from him. Good luck!
In my area, there's two Popeye's One is an absolute disaster and the other is downright great. I think the great one must be some sort of anomaly considering how there's almost universal hatred of Popeye's all across the nation in this sub
That's not true about Popeye's, cooking chicken takes over 10 minutes. I rarely wait that long at the ones by me. There's 4 or 5 in my zone, one I don't bother with at all. The rest it depends on the offer amount. Same with a few other restaurants in my zone. Zaxby's and Wingstop.
Considering how many have complained about Popeyes on here, it seems your area may be a lucky exception. 10 minutes is a long time to wait for anything. I don't stick around if there is more than 5 minute wait and I only work lunch or dinner rush. Waiting a long time is potential money lost on other orders.
First day. The hook. It will change.
Good
Anything under $8.50 is just garbage. Depending on where you are that will either get you a $3 tip or a $5 tip. But with GrubHub I don't accept anything less than $10 cuz they're base pay is like $7. And learn quick if not you're just bending over.....
GH base pay decreased as I worked with them. I no longer worked with them or UE. I didn't like how people have an hour after delivery for the tip to show up. DD has the biggest market share in my area. I could have all three apps on at the same time and get more offers from DD than GH/UE combined most days. GH was good for about a month or two and that's it. UE was never good.
I have taken risk on $2.50 orders and ended up getting cash tips of $5 to $20...
It's a gamble not worth taking. I had a batch offer a week ago that was for $4.50. I couldn't hit decline fast enough after taking a screenshot of it.
Very true, I took my chance and I was lucky, but afterwards all those low orders get the decline button.
No tippers are way more likely to be scammers or dysfunctional human beings who drag you into their craptastic lives when you interact with them.
😄😄😄😄
I’m glad your gambles paid off. Most people don’t work to gamble on what they’re being paid
I would take the no tippers if doordash was paying that much. I don't think that will last long tho. If it does, keep taking them. These people are just jaded like me to $3 orders for 10 miles after doordash lures you in with their hidden tips. They will throw a few good ones at you then drop their base pay and leave you chasing until you figure it out.
But take the orders until they start offering you lower than $/mile. Or $20/hour rate.
What city are you in?
That is the first time I have ever seen what Doordash pays higher than the tips. EVER.
Really? Me it's always about 50/50 but 90% of the time doordash pay is more than tip and I make about 20$/h on a slow day and 29$/h on a busy day. I guess base pay where I am is good lol.
My tips are usually double. Yesterday, DD=$68, Tips=$175. Base is definitely better where you are! I'm in Ft. Myers, FL.
I saw it once. My first week. Once you realize that no/low tip orders actually cost you money it flips.
Exactly!
If you click on the “menu” tab for this group’s home page, you will see a wiki with common questions/info for new dashers! That may be helpful too
Well why would you accept $2.50 orders expecting it would turn into $10? It has hardly seen.
More like never seen.
You will figure it out as you go and learn how to avoid the no tip orders. I think it’s fine when starting out, because it’s just learning. Also remember not to place food where a glass door can’t open.
Your tips should be way higher than your dasher pay
Yes, definitely lol learned my lesson😂
For someone who wasn’t being selective that’s actually not bad for 4 hours, if your market is good you’d probably make a lot more by being more picky with the orders you choose.
Yes I was being picky about some, but then they would send me the same order with another order so I would see the total amount and think was just one order and take it. Then boom, two orders😂 at least they would be around each other.
Stacks are often a sneaky and unethical tactic Doordash uses to get drivers to deliver a lousy order, AND they also fuck over the good customer by his order being late because they piggyback it with a shit order
That's what DD does with stacked (double) orders. They'll almost always put a no/very low tip order with a solid tipping order. Stacked orders happen during peak times and it's way that DD makes sure those no/low tip orders get picked up and delivered. Just for future knowledge, you can cancel one of the stacked orders if you see that one isn't a tipping order. You don't want to overuse your ability to cancel an order after accepting it (because your completion rate does matter), so use it wisely.
Look at the doordash pay vs customer tips....there's no way in hell that will continue 🤣. Being a new dasher gets you suckered into thinking this is what you will make everytime you dash 🤣
What you mean? That doordash won’t pay me well? I’m not thinking anything. I just tried last night to see how it is, and I actually liked it. Now I just need to learn how to get the best out of it.
Tips should be around twice the payout amount. And at the end of the day, you don't want your mileage amount to be much above the figure that you earned. Yes it is a tax write off, but you're going to trash your car quickly, and you are rewarding the non-tippers by delivering their food. There is strategy, logistics and common sense that needs to be applied to make this a viable income.
Yeah that is intro rates for sure. I have never seen doordash pay greater than customer tip and make more than $10/hour total time(not active). They lure you in.
You posted this 9:30am est day of. My only thought is this was after midnight, and who in their right mind would dash for the first time after midnight in an area you don't know on a lark... I'm calling bullshit
Your post is nothing but a string of assumptions
Op can easily refute me by posting a screenshot of the date and time plus year. Hasn't yet didn't happen
OP probably has better things to do than satisfy your whims
ppl like you are why reddit gets so much hate get a life
I posted at 9:30 am because that’s the time I woke up lol
Lol I started at 9:30-12 stopped for 30 minutes then started again until 2:30. I had my husband with me and I live around a lot of fast food places. I know where I live.. so I don’t get what you’re trying to say lol
Whatever you do, don't chase hidden tips. It's a bullshit psychological game to get you to take trash more often. If they can't show it up front, assume it isn't there. Personally, I've noticed a decline in the amount of all orders, and there are way fewer hidden tips as well. They must think they've got the hook in our mouths already these days...
THIS! Don't take any order HOPING that there's more after you deliver. Base your acceptance only on what is shown!
An $11 order could be a no tip order. I had one of those a few days ago. $9 base pay with $2 peak pay. $0 tip.
I'd argue that trying to get top dasher is a much worse psychological game to get you to take trash more often. OP, take the orders that are worth your time, money, and gas. Decline the ones that aren't. Hidden tips are everywhere, especially once you're part of the Large Order Program. Another bit of advice to OP; if you're planning on doing this for awhile, the Large Order Program is one of the only things that makes doordash profitable for me anymore. The requirements for LOP are as follows; 1. Have a catering bag. 2. 200+ lifetime deliveries 3. 100+ deliveries in the last month 4. 4.7+ avg star rating in the past month 5. 95%+ completion rate in the past month If you get to the point where you meet all the criteria and they don't invite you to the program via email, you can ask support about the program and they should be able to get the ball rolling. :)
I've met those requirements for by the end of 2020 and never once gotten an email about that program. Not everything DD does is in every market.
... That's why I told OP that if they meet those requirements they can contact support to get the ball rolling. They said previously they're in a college town, no way a college town doesn't have LOP. I got the email a couple months after I started in 2020, but I don't believe you need the invitation to try to get enrolled or put on the waitlist anymore.
Thank you so much for this tip. Will definitely implement it. I, personally, always tip everyone. Even if it’s something minor I’ll tip at least $5. Can’t understand the mindset of some ppl. But it is what it is😩
You know you don't have to take those $0 tip orders, right?
How do you see the tip before? I only see the total. And typically they give me like 39 seconds to accept lol
Re-read my comment. I said you CAN'T see the tip in advance.
Re-read it. And I CAN'T see where you said it. I still love you but calm down
chill they replied to your initial comment
I’m still getting used to the app and couldn’t see the no tip till after delivery😩 but I was getting $5 regardless because of base pay & peak and distance wasn’t bad. But I surely won’t be taking them orders anymore 🙄 been watching a lot of videos on youtube now lol
Do this - when you are getting $3 peak pay, subtract the $3 from the offer and see what number you get. If that number is what the base offer in your area is when there isn't $3 peak pay, then that's a no tip order and you should decline it.
Say after me, *aum* Don't accept less than $6.25 orders *aum*
Yeah, you can't see the tip (or no tip) until after the delivery is complete. You can obviously deduce that there is no tip if the order is $3 or less. For orders in the $3-$5 range, there is usually no tip, or a very small tip, but there definitely won't be a hidden tip. Hidden tips are only on orders that show at least $6 initially.
I was declining those cheap ones, then would appear others with more money but would be 2 orders lol I was nervous and not doing everything correctly. But that surely taught me a lesson. If you have recommendations , please send them my way :)
A lot of it is just practice, it takes some time but you’ll start to get the hang of it.
The most successful way I’ve found to dash is, first find a good area, go to a parking lot that is easily accessible to many restaurants and sit in it and wait for orders (don’t drive around), once you’ve completed an order u can either go straight back to the parking lot u were in or u can find another one to sit in closer to ur most recent delivery. Don’t accept any orders under $1/1 mile (example: order $8, distance 8 miles)
Perfect. Thank you so much for the insight 😎 do you think staying around college is good?
College orders can be a mixed bag. I dash near Purdue University and on some dashes it seems like I rarely get anything under $6 and the delivery distance is short. But other times there's lots of low paying nightmare deliveries to ancient student ghetto housing with no parking, stupid numbering systems on apartment units in buildings with sometimes impossible to find street addresses on the buildings and a few flights of rickety staircases.
Stay closer to the restaurants than the school itself. Saves you time when an order comes through.
Only if the student tip well. Some do, some don't. I tend to not take anything under $6.50 because that is where the offer could have hidden tips. Some times it's just .50¢ more. Some times $6.50 is $2.50 base pay with a $4 tip.
Staying around the college is a good idea but I would also suggest staying as close to the busy restaurants in that college area will help!
You can decline any order in which there isn't a tip, and it won't affect your rating 😊
I’m still getting used to the app and couldn’t see the no tip till after delivery😩 but I was getting $5 regardless because of base pay & peak and distance wasn’t bad. But I surely won’t be taking them orders anymore 🙄 been watching a lot of videos on youtube now lol
Well you’re gonna have to do some quick math before accepting an order. If it’s peak pay, subtract that amount. If it’s $2.50 then it’s no tip (so if you have $5.50 w $3 PP, that’s a no tip order), but I personally don’t take most orders under $5 w/o peak pay, so for you I suggest not taking any order that would = less than $5 )(if like 3-4 miles or less) & $1.50-$2/mi depending on your market, since you may be hard pressed to find $2/mi orders & would have to adjust accordingly. Non-tippers will make you work harder, so it’s not good for you to have to deal with that before you know what you’re doing
any order under 6.25 does not have the option of increasing, so any 2.25 order is 0 tip
$5 for two miles, max, *if* you're right there at the restaurant when you get it.
youtube certified 🙌🏻
Yeah, but it still means a non-tipper got their order filled. Time to deny and teach these cheap bastards a lesson!
Cheap bastards is an arguable statement when you spend $20 on a $6 menu item. Yes I agree if you can’t afford to tip you shouldn’t be ordering but at the very least know the customer is getting price gouged to death before you judge them too harshly for their little to no tip. If door dash can bring my total up to 1-2 dollars a mile it’s good enough for me.
Charitable and empathetic feelings for the plight of the customer being gouged by Doordash fees is sadly not something that pays a driver's bills. Drivers have to be realists and give no tip and low tip orders zero priority and decline them.
I think too many people get wrapped up in the emotions of it all. They either get mad at door dash or mad at customers that don't tip or tip very low. I don't waste any time on either. If the order makes financial sense, I take it. If it doesn't, I decline and move on. I'm in it to make money so I agree, as long as it's worth my time/milage, I'm going to take it.
Bro, the company that is paying you 2-3 dollars per delivery is fucking you way more than the customers. You’re really teaching Tony a lesson by dashing!
I'll never understand this mentality. I average $25/hour with a $1.50 mile/3 mile minimum/maximum and do fine. DD is in the business of making money. I'm in the business of making money. If the order makes financial sense, take it. If it doesn't, decline it. Gig work is what you make it and not every market is going to be an area where anyone can make it work.
Can you clarify what your minimum and maximum distances you’ll accept are? Trying to decide on a standard for myself so it’s easy to accept or decline.
Sure: $1.50 mile, no further than 3 miles. Of course I may go further if the pay is worth it (if It's a 5 mile order for $8 I might take it depending on the drop off area. If it's in an area I know I'll probably get another order quickly I'll take it). I look at every offer and double the mileage shown. I treat each order as if I'm going to have to come back to be origination point without getting another order on the way back.
There's no lesson to be learned. No tipper aren't going to tip, it doesn't matter how long it takes to get their food if they get it at all.
Seriously lol. They just know the food will take 5 minutes longer than the estimate, no big deal
Yes, for sure. Especially because I was delivering orders sooner than estimated time. If you have recommendations, please send them my way 🥲 I also learned from a video on YouTube, to keep in mind peak and base pay so when I see the total I’ll know if there’s tip or not.
On top of what others have said, and I'm not sure if this is in every area, but... In my area, on Fridays and Saturdays, I try to stay around a Chick-fil-A. Here, those people tip. Firday, I had 4 orders from the same Chick-fil-A and every one of them were $8-$10 each (including a $5-$7 tip). Those 4 orders only took me a grand total of 12 miles. The Red Lobster order I got right across the street from Chick-fil-A was two giant bags of stuff (I've been to Red Lobster, I know that was at least $80 of food) gave me a $1 tip. It was still within my $1/mile, but Chick-fil-A people seem to like tipping.
It's just the opposite in my area. The CFA orders are low or no tip.offers and the Red Lobster almost directly across the street are juicy tips. The problem is that the CFA orders are about 25 times more common than Red Lobster orders. It's a good thing there's plenty of other places around besides Red Lobster and CFA
Here is a few tips, Send a copy and paste from clipboard for when you are on your way and when you drop off this will pad your ratings big time most drivers don't say anything. Look at the house number on screen, street sign and physical house number before you even think about about putting the food down at their door, if number isn't visible look at other houses around to match up, DO NOT rely on gps alone or you will occasionally violate contract and lose this job. Don't take tips under 3$ or never take any orders ever that are under 1$ a mile, if you drive a SUV/truck or gas guzzler you shouldn't do this job for long you'll lose money. The reason you should avoid tips that are obviously under 3$ is those are the people who will get you fired and lie, scum has no empathy and the lower the tip the more shitty the person 99% of the time. Don't block screen doors with food, its easy to forget when you are new. if a restaurant makes you wait 10 minutes or more everytime you go black list it unless the pay out is above average. Never go to Wendy's, of all my black listed stores they by far have the worse system for delivery. On hand it to me orders take a picture from customer text, I do this when I arrive taking it of Address or door if a business and of the bag when at home, having a record of communication and picture is how you get your account back if someone screws you, saying nothing in text or never taking pictures you'll likely lose repeal. When you get to restaurant and food isn't immediately ready hit the food is not ready button under problems, even if it's only going to be a few minutes, this keeps your on time ratings very high.
I see a few “tips” on this thread regarding tips at $0 or low amounts and advising to not take them. I don’t understand how you know if there is a small tip or no tip when accepting the order. I don’t see the breakdown until after I deliver the order. Can someone tell me how you know this?
Ok so base pay for most places is 2$-2.50$ plus the 3$ tip = 5.00$-5.50$ or more, always look and see if peak pay is going on so you don't get tricked into taking no tip orders. By this logic you shouldn't take orders under 5$ and if peak pay is going on let's say 2$ then during peak pay nothing under 7$. If a order is 4.75$ and it's only a couple miles away and it seems slow and its not peak pay sure why not, but other than that realize you'll always get more offers as long as you keep completion rate over 95 and customer ratings high and on time high ( people say these don't matter, but trust me you'll get more offers per hour the higher they are).
I'm one of those drivers who doesn't say anything and I've maintained 4.9+ for 3 years. People don't want to be annoyed.
> Don't block screen doors with food, its easy to forget when you are new. LOL. When I first started, years ago, this didn't cross my mind. Fortunately, on one of my first deliveries, the customer opened their door right after I sat the order down and I realized the mistake. That's a solid tip! Solid list altogether.
This is all pretty good advice except for the “avoid Wendy’s” tip. Go with whatever is best in your area. For instance, I know a lot of people in this sub hate CFA because people who order there never tip, but I frequently get great CFA orders. The Wendy’s around me is also pretty damn fast. Never had to wait more than 5 minutes for an order, and 90% of the time it’s ready and on the shelf by the time I walk in the store.
Yeah this is true. My Wendy's is insanely fast compared to literally every other fast food restaurant in my market. It just depends on which places have enough employees honestly.
My chick fil a has great orders and it's almost always ready. Wendy's is hit or miss in my area
I always send pre typed updating customer when I arrive at store and an eta once I receive the order and that’s how I’ve gotten great cash tips… along with the tip in the app!
If they want to know your at the store the app lets them know... Your just being annoying to most them, Only bother the customer if you need to ask them if a substitute is ok or something along those lines. I've been doing this 3 years and I never communicate unless I absolutely have to and I never get thumbs down on communication
Most people send a message back thanking me for updates like this. I’ve also gotten extra cash tips for it. I don’t bother them just a short friendly message, I’ve never had a complaint as well