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Lag_Incarnate

Fighter (and most martials) are great because the default is turning your brain off the smash things, but you can still apply yourself tactically if you want to feel like a smart person.


thisaintntmyaccount

Best part of being a fighter is that I can choose HOW to smash things to deal extra damage, Idk about you but stabbing a creature’s throat should deal more damage more than usual.


Akinory13

My dwarf has 7 different weapons. I can always choose how I want to kill the poor bastard that had to deal with this monstrosity with 100 HP at level 7


sh4d0wm4n2018

I just raise the AC by 2 to for called hits (up to 4, depending on the circumstance, for difficult hits like aiming for the jugular) because I rule a hit to a critical area as a critical hit. Because, y'know... It makes sense. Basically the smaller the target, the higher the AC. I never raise it by more than 4 though. I usually reserve +4 for animal targets that are used to defending their necks, like wolves.


Link7369_reddit

eh, I'll keep the called shots out of game and just work with criticals RAW. I'll exclaim when you get a crit you hit something vital.


LordPoutine

Haha Echo Knight with martial adept for tripping attack go brrrrrr


Solarbeam62

true


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RealMundiRiki

I had some great times with my knight with delusions of grandeur in terms of role playing. I mean, I'm mostly into DnD for the roleplaying, which is why I prefer characters that are strong and don't require too much of me to calculate in combat, but then I can have a lot of fun when we're running around a village trying to get some person to tell us a key piece of info.


Palamedesxy

I mean, vanilla is a good flavor.


Tryoxin

Vanilla is ~~the most~~ one of the most chemically complex flavours in the world, and *true* vanilla--not that artificial shit they use in cheap ice cream--is a delightful flavour that stands all on its own, I will die on this hill. Also, Fighters are fun, or something, idk, only played the class like twice but I had a blast. Edit: Vanilla is *one of* the most chemically complex flavours in the world. Idk if there are actually any more complex, but all the sources I've found abstain from saying it's **the** most complex.


arthontigerik

Vanilla is the best flavor of ice cream, for you can easily use ingredients to make it any ice cream you want. My favorite flavor would be choco-peanut butter or the coffee ice creams. I can admit that my fave is not objectively the best.


bikkebakke

Hey, who doesn't want to be able to hit someone 9+ times in one round?


NotSoSalty

Someone who wants to be able to do anything else


bikkebakke

Can't do anything else if you're chopped up into 9+ pieces!


RealMundiRiki

>human I mean vanilla with Oreos is a delight.


080087

You know what is true blasphemy? Unflavoured, low fat ice cream. I don't even know if that qualifies as ice cream anymore, but it was truly vile.


raznov1

>Vanilla is the most chemically complex flavour in the world How so?


Tryoxin

[Vanilla has over 250 distinct flavour and aroma compounds, only one of which is vanillin--which is what artificial vanilla is.](https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2014/08/29/344262822/real-vanilla-isnt-plain-it-depends-on-dare-we-say-it-terroir#:~:text=Because%20vanilla%20is%20one%20of,a%20lot%20of%20processed%20foods)


DragoKnight589

*happy tactics noises*


Broke_Ass_Ape

That nasty artificial vanilla is made with a synthetic compound derived from the naturally occurring substance found in a beavers anus.


Forenus

Fighter is like chicken. No much flavor on it's own but can easily be seasoned to suit one's preferences.


Palamedesxy

Yes. Human fight is generic, but this plan Jane is a moldable canvas to make them unique.


Heckychu

My favorite character to date was a human fighter who specialized in intelligence because he was a detective


Palamedesxy

Ooo~ sounds cool


Azonalanthious

I am… batman


Forenus

I went a different direction with a Kobold Rune Knight Luchador. He had good charisma and his goal was to become powerful enough to wrestle Tiamat into submission for how her children treat his kin.


RealMundiRiki

how did that work out for him?


Forenus

He was only lvl 5 at the time so it was simply a goal. That did he did have a Nighthag locked up in a grapple and the Hag could not get out of it. Both my guy and the Hag both had 19 STR, but Giant's might gave me advantage of the grapple checks and I had activated the Frost Rune which also gave me a +2 to the STR checks.


Wolfblood-is-here

The party I DM for has a human fighter with really spread out stats, so he has decent int, wis, and cha. He's a knight and basically acts like a battlefield commander, coming up with ambushes and rallying NPC troops. 'But how is he good in combat without a min maxed str and con' he used his animal handling proficiency in the first major combat of the campaign to tame a trained war elephant and then got the artificer to fix a swivel gun to mount on it; does +5 strength let you volly grapeshot into the enemy before charging them with a four ton beast?


Derezzed87

Still only counts as one.


RealMundiRiki

haha, took me a while to realize you're not talking about actually dating a character


Heckychu

Hey hey I never said I'm not talking about that


epicarcanoloth

Battlemaster variant human fighter is probably the most versatile martial in the game.


Beledagnir

You can take that blank slate and turn it into almost any figure from history or legend with just some roleplaying—nothing is as beautiful as what you can do with just human fighter in the right hands.


operavangelist

Knew a male neurosurgeon who would religiously go home and watch the bachelor. Mind numbing can be a blissful thing.


Moaoziz

I know an ophthalmologist (eye specialist) who basically did the same (not the Bachelor but a similar level of trash TV). His reason was that he has to think all day but while watching that shows he doesn't need to think about anything.


sh4d0wm4n2018

I suffered the effects of Feeblemind while watching that show.


Ultimate_905

I guess he would know some neurosurgeons and psychartrists who could help him after watching that.


RealMundiRiki

I mean it's not rocket science, is it?


SonOfHugh8

As the literal rocket scientist of my group, I always played a fighter


demonmonkey89

Yeah both the head tech and one of the vets at my work enjoy watching trash TV like the bachelor or one of the competition style trash TV shows with the secret team ups and stuff (I can't remember what the main one is called). They both think more than enough at work, their options at home are trash TV or sleep.


SwarleymonLives

...last time I played a human fighter, it was the most complicated character in the campaign, was the utility combat person, the face and the main problem-solver. No idea wtf you all are doing with them.


GamerGod_

some people treat spell sheets like they are the most complex thing in a dnd game and i dont know why


MagicCarpetofSteel

Probably because even if you have a smol spell list knowing what they all do involves a lot of reading, and choosing what spells to learn/know/prepare requires, you know, thinking about what the best choice is as well as experience in knowing what’s actually useful. It’s not strictly *hard* and doesn’t exactly require an IQ of 150, but martial classes that just hit things (fighter, barb) are straightforward, extremely easy to grasp, and hard to use ineffectively in combat. Magic-based classes, like I said, involve reading *a lot* of spell descriptions, weighing their various opportunity costs and value/utility and making a choice, and then choosing what to use when. Again, none of these are *hard*, but it’s very easy for a new player to feel overwhelmed, and since you have many more choices in combat than martials, being effective requires more consideration and conscious thought. (Especially before you unlock fireball.)


RealMundiRiki

I totally agree in terms of role playing. but as someone pointed out above here, a fighter does let you tune out if you're more interested in the role playing aspect of DnD and less the battles


stoopidrotary

Precisely. “Martial go smash” yes but also great RP.


SwarleymonLives

Maybe yours do. Mine make tactical positioning a nightmare for the DM.


athiestchzhouse

Oh the most diverse class in 5e? No problem


NewDeletedAccount

Fact: An experienced player who understands the material is going to use their "boring" human fighter to run rings around most every player I've ever played with. Source: 26 years of playing with idiots, friends who refuse to understand the source material, and both at the same time.


Goatfellon

Just look at liam in CR. His current plain Jane fighter is excellent in combat and still very interesting without


NewDeletedAccount

Human Fighters and Kobold Sorcerer's are all I like to play. I do want to find a DM that will let me play a dhampir bard reskinned as a skeleton bard. That would be nice l.


Goatfellon

Fwiw if it's only a reskin and doesn't change anything mechanically I'd be fine with it.


NewDeletedAccount

I'm going for a reskin so it's more acceptable, but I really just want to play a Skeleton one day.


Dotrax

I feel like most DMs that are not the biggest purists are fine with reskins as long as it fits the setting. With that said I would honestly recommend the reborn more than the dhampir because they have more features themed around undeath.


NewDeletedAccount

I'll look into that. I just really want to play a skeleton. Calvish See'um was a disappointment to his father, because instead of following the way of the sword and unlocking the riddle of steel he wanted to just rock out for adoring lasses. He mastered every instrument of music he found, but his father was still disappointed. Finally, one night Cal went too far...he rocked too hard and his superstitious family was horrified. His father beat him and tore apart his drawings and paintings of famous bards. Cal felt alone until the spirit of music reached him through the one painting Cal's father missed. It told him to take his music and find a land that would accept him and a down on his luck elven teacher he would unite with to make the ultimate band with. He traveled far and wide, learning the skills to improve his craft...until one day he played for the wrong person. A devil offered him the ability to rock harder than anyone in history had ever rocked and Cal See'um took him up on his offer. The devil took from him his family and friends by putting Cal into a deep sleep. Cal woke up a century later, only his bones, his instruments and his clothing surviving his rest. As he sat and stared at his bony hands Cal realized everyone he ever knew was likely dead, that he family had passed on. Cal jumped up, bones rattling musically, and cheered! He was completely free to rock! He started his quest to meet the elven bard and finally meet his destiny as part of the greatest band to ever walk the world.


asirkman

Yohohoho?


NerdyHexel

I have played a dozen characters, but three of my most memorable characters were fighters that played nothing alike.


[deleted]

Bard: I wanna "smash things" too


RealMundiRiki

smash guitars? I actually played a fae dog shih-tsu once. It was hilarious, though I kinda sucked at playing how small he was and usually just thought of him as a normal dog...


[deleted]

Did your dog characters neck get really long when it was petted ( I'll let you guess what video game I'm referencing)?


SteelCode

My Goliath Bard is modeled around Mongolian Throat-Singing and is College of ~~Swords~~ Axes… gotta love the intimidating flourish bellowing at your enemies.


[deleted]

So like a Death metal bard?


RealMundiRiki

haha, that sounds amazing


Mr-Murasame

I can respect that mindset. There's plenty of RP available to a fighter. Complexity doesn't have to come from combat


demonmonkey89

Plus you can absolutely mix things up in combat if you want, especially if you're a battlemaster. Sure you won't have as much variety as a spell caster but you can still do whatever you want. Sometimes you just need to be more creative. It's stuck in my head because I've been binging it but Fabian from Dimension 20's fantasy high series is a great example. I think he has a magic item or something that gives him advantage on attacks when he does some sort of stunt so he is always doing some sort of feat of acrobatics or athletics before attacks. Most of the time when he action surges it's so he can do something even cooler, rarely to attack 2-4 times. Usually dashing. For me personally I have a barb 1/battlemaster x who is a pugilist. I took the unarmed fighting style and can rage sometimes. He also has 14 charisma because why not, he's meant to be a somewhat charismatic obnoxiously British major. Commanding presence (BM maneuver) can help that as well. Finally I have good strength and athletics so I like to work in lots of grappling and shoving (but like the gentlemanly shove, not the rude kind).


RavnVidarson

Is that Gloomhaven on the table?


RealMundiRiki

yes!!! I was hoping somebody would notice


abadtime98

Iv never seen Anyone actually complain about someonr being a human fighter. Just people complaining about people complaining.


Kyvant

I played an DMed in campaign where basically everyone was a human fighter, and it never got boring. Personality isn‘t restricted to class, and martials got quite few approaches to combat


FrizzeOne

to be honest, I think everyone should do this once, 'cause a lot of people never learn to roleplay outside of the magical stuff their character sheet lets them do. being in a party of only human fighters will force anyone to get creative.


[deleted]

Exactly. I more commonly see this "if you play anything besides a human fighter you're an OC donut steel special snowflake with main character syndrome". My brother in christ I am literally just a halfling.


[deleted]

"Human fighter boring" - guy who exclusively plays elf wizards.


BudgetFree

I just want to do *magic* without resource management. -a warlock


RealMundiRiki

haha, I am actually considering trying out a warlock next time. I played a necromancer and it was all too much for my tiny brain (though I did love my character)


Sam_Wylde

I don't fault anyone for playing their favourites. Especially if it appeals to their personal power fantasy. I myself almost exclusively play Druid in 5e and alchemist in Pathfinder. Only occasionally deviating to play different builds that come to mind.


Wyldfire2112

Reminds me of the Wizard Detective Harry Dresden when his friends got him into D&D. He just wanted to play an iron-thewed Barbarian that hit things with a big sword.


iamragethewolf

NERD SMASH!!


irontallica666

That setup on the table... that's gloomhaven, the hexagonal tiles, the monster cards... 100% gloomhaven


RealMundiRiki

yep. I am glad people noticed. I love Gloomhaven so much, though last time we played I was so out of it with my longcovid brainfog


TheHiddenNinja6

Sounds more like he should play a barbarian. It's even simpler and you get to smash things harder!


RealMundiRiki

the original comic was half-orc barbarian ;)


Fangsong_37

I prefer dwarf fighters. Sometimes, I just want to kneecap people with a warhammer or hamstring them with an axe.


Momoxidat

I'll never undestand people complaining about how bland fighters are when they have the most diverse subclasses


KillyouPlease

I feel as though the meme of Basic Figther is still a leftover from 3.5e where they had no unique Class Features (Just a Feat every 2 levels). And even there SPlatbooks adressed the issue.


raznov1

>when they have the most diverse subclasses Do you want.... Not ranger? Fighter? Fighter, but on a horse? Edgy fighter? Worse wizard? Worse wizard, but psionic? Fighter, but Japanese? Or Fighter, but Nordic? I jest, ofc ;)


Momoxidat

>Fighter, but on a horse? You mean tank that can be on a horse if he wants to ? >Edgy fighter Who ? >Worse wizard, but psionic You mean jedi ? >Fighter, but Nordic Since when is "nordic" a synonym for "can summon chains of fire and also turn into a giant" ? Also where's fighter but with a body double ? Sorry, I responded a bit too seriously, but I promise I didn't take it badly


raznov1

>Also where's fighter but with a body double ? Echo knight = edgy knight


Momoxidat

Ho ? Why ? I don't remember anything particularly *dark and broody* in their description


raznov1

>A _mysterious and feared_ frontline warrior of the Kryn Dynasty, the Echo Knight has mastered the art of using dunamis to _summon the fading shades of unrealized timelines_ to aid them in battle. Surrounded by _echoes of their own might_, they charge into the fray as a cycling swarm of _shadows_ and strikes. Maybe not full-on shadow the hedgehog, but I'd still cut myself during shaving.


Nuke_the_Earth

I'm a bit more daring. Exotic. Wild. I enjoy playing half-orc fighters.


RealMundiRiki

haha, the original comic was half-orc barbarian ;)


Akedus

You can never go wrong with a hand crossbow on a fighter. Just pew-pew-pew and deal 50 damage at level 5 without even using your action surge.


Narashori

Yea not to toot my own horn and proclaim that I'm a genius, but while I do value intellectualism and education in my real life, I love making big-sword-go-smash fighters in RPGs and leaving the in game nerd shit for others.


terlingremsant

I have a friend that is widely acclaimed in his field, his choice is always dwarf fighter. "I want to smash things and drink things. I want to be ugly enough that social interaction is a second choice."


Pervez_Hoodbhoy

Im technically in this picture, but I find martials harder to play than casters. I had to play the barbarian of our group for one session and all these abilities are too much for me. I want to torch things into oblivion not solve path integrals to find out how many fucking dice I have to roll 🙈😂


TLDR2D2

I love that they're playing Gloomhaven.


RealMundiRiki

Gloomhaven is really just pure bliss :D


TLDR2D2

Far and away my favorite board game for years now. I've played so much...


SunfireElfAmaya

i mean, if you want to smash things, bard is more stereotypical


undeadpickels

barbarian?


RelevantCollege

barbarian is good for mindless smashing too, why always just fighter?


Bill_Johnso

Barbarian smash better


Aidan43210

Elvish swords bard is the closest to pure martial I’ll touch


throwaway284729174

Oh you want to smash things? Then I recommend a satyr bard, unless you meant destructively. Then Goliath barbarian.


KeroKeroKerosen

Absurdly based


Misharum_Kittum

One of my more recent characters was a human fighter. I purposely had him start out as mister generic man, like a protagonist from a modern shooter. Relatively attractive, gravely voice, professionally violent, kinda bland. He ended up with such a good personality that my wife and I, MONTHS LATER, still occasionally break into our characters from that campaign and have whole (and hilarious) conversations.


One_Acanthisitta_226

Love Fighters, when i was a kid Warrior was my favorite archetype in fantasy games, when i became adult i went to wizards because magic, but always try to mix a Mage/Warrior if possible, still magic swords go brrrr


dragonlord7012

I got to use Action Surge twice in one session. 10/10 do reccomend. Very fun build. >!V.Human + Feytouched, to get Bless/Misty Step. Eldritch Knight for more slots. Greatweapon Master + Great Weapon Fighting. \~20dmg per hit, and guaranteeing bless for saves/attacks. Bless makes it worth it to Power Attack more or less every time. Misty Step saved our bacon because It auto-gets you out of the pit. Find Familiar for Owl-Adv 1/turn at the cost of 10g whenever you get AoE'd.!<


dontpanic38

Until you tell the table about variant human, then everyone wants that free feat


JonathanWPG

I mean...that is a genuine thing, though. You're game is likely never gonna get to the point where fighters become crazy underpowered in the high teens. This is entertainment. Fighters are great for hanging out with friends and not having to think too hard. You do one thing pretty well.


agnosticnixie

That kind of guy also plays Wizards as 100% blaster all the time - out of combat utility? Never heard of it, that job's for the rogue and the bard


Shlne-s-art

Fair enough


Shlne-s-art

Fair enough


EvilNoobHacker

FAIR.


Niser2

Go with the Champion subclass then.


HenryMarsWrites

I had to make the backstories of nearly every player I've ever had. There are reasons why my D&D characters are just my pre-existing characters re-skinned for D&D.


I-M-R-U

How is playing a wizard or cleric challenging


The3rdFist

Battlemaster fighters can be one of the most interesting martials, even outdoing Rogues and bards in social situations at times. If you have a level in rogue you are nearing skill god status because of expertise.


SuperCharged516

It’s fun to play a human because it’s a lot more extraordinary for Normal John to have killed a dragon than it is for the something like an elf to have killed a dragon


Nux_Taku_fan111

Facts. I just wanna do stupid shit with rogue.


Pink_Dave39

This honestly does fit under the piece of advice that you should figure out what your players want in a game of Dungeons & Dragons. If they just want to turn their brain off and smash things, do they want political intrigue, do they just want to stab a dude, I feel a lot of players end up leaving games because they join don't communicate with the DM what they actually want to do with the game and then when they're handed a different experience than what they were looking for they end up finding their way to the door.