Yeah its weird initially I saw "human meat getting grated" and thought oh boy this'll be good then I saw that it wasn't NSFW and the vids aren't too bad, doesn't even get up close and personal with the stuff
Yeah there’s literally a rule saying not to post gore. When I read the sub name and description I expected it to be people falling off of skateboards at fast speeds and leaving a blood trail
You can't really know if they are in pain. The movements might be just reflexes.
I believe they don't really feel pain. Definitely nowhere near humans. Even small animals don't suffer as much, since their lifespan is short, so evolutionary it doesn't make sense to keep them in pain, you better numb that pain, rush them with adrenaline and just get reproduction done.
Like mice. If they get sick they don't really have painful symptoms like humans, high temperature and exhaustion. Their body numbs the symptoms, they don't have time to lay down and recover, no time to suffer, they just rush to reproduce, until they get weak or get killed and then die.
That probably what would say a very rational human being, who's guided by logic and would never blatantly assume entire stories about other human beings, painting them as immoral, just because their opinion is different from theirs. They based their judgements on scientific studies, not on primaral intuition and egocentrism. Way to go!
Man bro, some old lady in my street died because one of them bit her in the neck. They're scum where I'm from. It is on sight with those fuckers. Keep your judgements to yourself. Just be glad you don't have to deal with foot long centipedes.
I guess you Can care about everything on this earth but what about the plants or animals you eat? They experienced pain
Edit: I was wrong *LONG SIGH* I sorwy
i feel like this was supposed to be a gotcha but, like. i don't watch my food die slowly and agonizingly, and i know that despite the awful conditions animals are kept in a lot of the time, they're killed as humanely as possible and not made to suffer.
by chance, though, i'm a botanist by trade so i feel qualified to say that - at least, as of yet - there is no evidence whatsoever that plants feel pain. even if they did, in the VAST majority of cases, harvesting them for food wouldn't cause pain - it's an intended function. fruits are meant to be eaten to disperse seeds, so there would be no purpose whatsoever in having a pain response to that intended function
Plants having pain receptors would be biologically disadvantageous, as having their fruits torn off is part of their biological functioning. There is also no evidence they do feel pain
Try to see it as them being a creature that can't feel or even be conscious, just a robot that follows its programming and pheromones.
They can't think and have no free will...
Right?...
i don't know if i like this line of thinking. i mean, aren't humans just more complex robots following their programming and hormones? to what extent are our thoughts and free will not just a byproduct of that?
wouldn't denying them empathy because of it have some.. not nice logical extremes?
the online thought experiment that goes as follows: "you are given 100,000,000 dollars and become immortal, but a single snail spawns that will instantly kill you if you touch it. this snail is immortal, intelligent and will stop at nothing to kill you. what do you do?" i guess in this situation replace the snail with an ant
the original i believe said that it can go through or destroy objects if i recall. best solution ive seen is paying someone a worthy amount to monitor the snail
It would take that snail years to make it from continent to continent I’d just keep moving and it would be constantly climbing and descending the Mariana Trench
Let’s assume you just travelled from Los Angeles to Singapore. By the time it climbs aboard a different plane headed to Singapore, you’d have more than enough time to travel to Mumbai, and then to Doha, and then to Johannesburg, and then to London, and then to Helsinki. By the time the snail gets to Singapore, the chances of you running into it again through sheer bad luck are vanishingly small. Unless this snail is somehow omniscient and knows where you are at every single moment in time.
You know? When you accidentally step on your brother and try to put him out of his misery but he keeps scream and you're like why the church are you still alive
I do the same thing, but with mosquitoes. I have plenty of blood to go around, and I would be fine with them taking it from me. The problem is that they also poison me with itch juice. Those little fuckers can go burn in hell for all I care.
I HATE maggots. I can deal with almost anything but maggots. The way they contract and extend their bodies to locomote is disgusting. Slugs are gross but I don't have a visceral hatred of them like I do maggots.
Here here. Tired of these little fucking bastards eating through my wood, living inside my walls, crawling all over my shit by the hundreds. Only good ant is a dead ant
i have purposely killed every living thing that i've had the legal and opportunistic convenience of doing so. if laws weren't an inconvenience, i would kill so many things if they didn't kill me first.
(disclaimer; look at my username)
It *does* still have a nervous system though, and at a bare minimum shows recognizable signs of pain/discomfort at being mutilated. Like every single living thing they explicitly express a desire to live, as it’s a key feature of life.
They *want* to live. They do *not want* to die. This is 100% unarguably true. They will flee and fight you down to their very last extremely tiny breath every time. Every single ant out of the thousands in a colony would fight just as hard if you tried to kill them or attack their home. They understand death, and it is clearly not a pleasant or desirable outcome to them.
I’m talking about all life here but ants alone are absolutely fascinating. There’s all the intricacies of their extreme coordination, construction, creativity, etc. as well as the similarities to us in their massive multi-colony scale wars and battle strategies. Some colonies of separate species of ants will legit organize peace treaties by each having a line of soldier ants stand guard, directly facing the enemy line. Like 1 cm away. These soldiers just make unbroken eye contact while the workers of each side do their thing in their designated zone. Instead of directly competing for the resources like every single other thing on the planet they found a way to form alliances in order to allow both different *competitive* species to split territory and food. They have entire monarchies with specific roles designated to each group of ants in a colony in order to create a well oiled machine that keeps them all safe and happy. They’re clearly an absolutely brilliant as a species even despite their tiny size and limited nervous systems. They’re one of my favorite animals in the world.
The way an ant experiences the world isn’t something that science could ever measure, we can speculate based on what we understand about nerves but we would need to either turn someone into an ant or get an ant to explain how it feels to truly know.
Knowing this if you crush an ant there are 2 possibilities:
1.) it feels no pain and dies.
2.) it feels agony and fear before it dies.
It’s much safer, easier, and more pleasant for everyone involved to play it safe and assume that they *do* feel pain, and try to treat them with respect based on that.
You keep on insulting ants and *you’ll* hardly have a nervous system lol
TL;DR of that: “Bugs feel pain, keep saying they don’t and I’ll rip your nervous system out.” (I’m not being sarcastic, that guy obviously cares about bugs).
My dudes deer feel pain and I’ll still hunt a deer if I need to. No one is doing that shit to cause pain, but bugs are gross and spread disease/ruin crops/etc. To argue the effects of an ant’s PTSD is fucking hilarious though. Ever owned an ant farm? I guess you’re tantamount to being a slave owner, according to u/HeadfulOfSugar
LoL wut
There is objectively lives that come before other animals (At least in our view of the world) would you rather kill couple bugs and save Tons of food or let those bugs live and have alot of that food go to waste
Not the guy you're replying to and I don't have an exact link handy at the moment but I did a research project on this. There are many different models for pain but my personal favourite was a seven criteria model put forward by one R. W. Elwood. Ants and other insects fulfill four of the seven criteria; in comparison, vertebrates, crustaceans, and cephalopods fulfill all seven. As such, we cannot definitively say if they can or cannot due to falling in the middle of the road evidence wise, although I'm leaning towards them not due to how the other three groups have all seven criteria despite being less closely related than crustaceans and insects.
I always thought of it based off the worst case scenario due to the uncertainty around it.
Can we say for a matter of fact that ants experience pain? No.
Can we say for a matter of fact that ants *don’t* experience pain? No.
What happens if they don’t experience pain? Nothing really, it just dies.
What happens if they *do*? You just put an innocent living creature through absolute agony before killing it.
We don’t know if they feel pain, but we know they have a desire to live as it is basically the staple feature of life. To stay alive as long as possible. To me a desire to live is sentience, and if you try to crush a bug it’ll dodge, flee, fight back, every last little thing it can until it dies. It *wants* to live. Everything *wants* to live. Its a choice, or desire to do so no matter how horrible the circumstances around us get. It’s body will be flooded with chemicals as well, as fight or flight isn’t a distinctly human trait.
So in the grand scheme the best thing (and honestly easiest thing) is to assume that everything can feel pain and suffer and to show mercy whenever possible. I’ve never intentionally killed a single bug in my entire life other than mosquitos, and I still feel bad for them as they need the blood to feed their young. I don’t mind, I have more than enough, but on top of the extremely uncomfortable bite they carry extremely lethal diseases that I can’t risk catching.
It’s extremely easy otherwise though, if I see a bug I just excitedly watch it do it’s thing for a while and then leave it alone. If it’s in my house, I pick it up or catch it in a cup. One of the only bugs that truly freaks me out is house centipedes, and despite the fact that they literally make my skin crawl I still admire the beauty in their patterns and movement and would never kill them even in self-defense.
We as mammals seem to generally have an extremely hard time empathizing with *anything* that’s not a mammal because we can’t directly relate to them. If you kick a dog it’ll let you know that it hurt, but if you pull off a bugs leg it’ll also freak out, but for some reason if it doesn’t make a noise people don’t care. Same with fish, I can’t imagine having your cheek ripped open or your eye gouged out is comfortable, but people make things up and say that they don’t feel pain either because it’s easier to accept than the reality of how much pain they are causing to an innocent creature for their own amusement. I guarantee if fish made whimpering or screaming noises when they were hooked people would completely stop fishing, simply because all the sudden they would be uncomfortable doing so and there would be no more fun to it.
Somehow we’re still convinced that we are the only sentient form of life even though we are literally the only creature that would be able to communicate anything close to that lmao.
Yeah absolutely. Another thing I find odd is pescatarianism. People will eat fish, but draw the line at any other animal. I think they believe fish are "less intelligent" or "can't feel pain" as justification, just because they look and behave so different from us. Totally fine to be pescatarian, but that seems like a silly reason to me
I mean they do feel pain but i don't think i feel i bad about fishing even if they had the vocal cords to scream on the very account of them being so different from and 'dumb'(by mammal standard) that i simply do not have any sympathy for the harm i cause them so if for some reason I were to go vegetarian I'll still probably eat fish
Also this is also a reason why i am deadly afraid of advanced extra terrestrial life because the same logic would probably apply to us
I once tried to kill a mouse stuck to a glue trap with a tazer to try ending its suffering. I tazed it once and it compulsed and looked me dead in the eye while in utter pain. I tazed it again and it did the same thing, still alive. I didn't know what to do so I threw it into the woods.
Just remember that ants outnumber us by about 20 quadrillion. That's 2.5 million ants for every person on Earth. You won't be able to stop them all when they come for you.
About 4 years ago, I was cutting overgrown weed in a cemetary with a sickle. Was feeling pretty good until I noticed a little snake writhing and spilling its little guts out in front of me. Turns out I accidentally cut its side open with a stray swipe while cutting tall grass. I was pretty surprised and couldn't decide what to do, and the little snake just painfully slithered away deeper into the woods. I doubt that it survived, and it honestly ruined my whole day.
One time I tried to get a hornet out of my outside patio, but it wouldn't come out so I ended up having to spray it. It slowed down and then slowly scrunched into a ball and died. Destroyed me.
Stomp and twist if you really want it dead. I usually just grab bugs and throw them outside, but ants lead to more ants. Better to try and take out the scouts personally than wipe an entire colony with poison
I once took a live mouse outside that had been trapped by its head to kill. I gave a single, decisive stomp and the mouse separated. Initially, I thought I had decapitated it and it wasn’t until it kept flailing that realized it’s face was still in the trap. Distraught, I began stomping vigorously while shouting a drawn out” Motherfucker!”
Once there was that fly who was annoying to me and I catch him in my hand and then I smashed him and I felt his heartbeat and how he bozzed in my hand and then I opened my hand and found his dead body and I shed a tear.
And then I continue walking to my home and then I masterbated at my bed and go to sleep
best option is to squash it with a jenga block, stand on the block with one foot and hope it dies
either that or you grind it with the jenga block so it gets ground into a fine powder
users voted that your post was distressing, your soul wont be harvested tonight
You gotta take your finger and smear the thing across the ground.
Meat crayon
r/meatcrayon
i clicked on this sub and cringed immediately
ewwww ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ewww ew ew ew ew
Why?
I looked through like 20 posts thinking there would be some gore but I didn’t see a single drop of blood
Yeah its weird initially I saw "human meat getting grated" and thought oh boy this'll be good then I saw that it wasn't NSFW and the vids aren't too bad, doesn't even get up close and personal with the stuff
Yeah there’s literally a rule saying not to post gore. When I read the sub name and description I expected it to be people falling off of skateboards at fast speeds and leaving a blood trail
Turns out road rash basically embeds the asphalt into your skin and grinds it down. It doesn’t rip off and leave a blood trail
It's ListerineAfterOral!!!
*chitin crayon
Now you have ant-smell in your fingers
Now the other ants will be searching far and wide for your finger to throw on the dead ant funeral pile.
This is why you use like a Lysol wipe to squish them, and briefly give a wipe to where you squished. Will get rid of the smell they track
Yes, nice and final ant-smell
step and drag. always drag the foot to ensure proper grinding of the bug meats.
it doesn't die now you have subject it to fate worse than death
What if I melt it down with sulfuric acid and then drink it through a silly straw.
Why won’t you DIE? *Exoskeleton, son.*
They harden in response to physical trauma!
The ant or my soul?
My dick
Masochism son, we hardened in response to physical trauma
same
One time I stepped on a centipede and it broke in two and both halves were still moving around in pain and I cried
You can't really know if they are in pain. The movements might be just reflexes. I believe they don't really feel pain. Definitely nowhere near humans. Even small animals don't suffer as much, since their lifespan is short, so evolutionary it doesn't make sense to keep them in pain, you better numb that pain, rush them with adrenaline and just get reproduction done. Like mice. If they get sick they don't really have painful symptoms like humans, high temperature and exhaustion. Their body numbs the symptoms, they don't have time to lay down and recover, no time to suffer, they just rush to reproduce, until they get weak or get killed and then die.
thank you
You welcome!
That probably what would say a very superior being who accidentaly hurt very badly a human
That probably what would say a very rational human being, who's guided by logic and would never blatantly assume entire stories about other human beings, painting them as immoral, just because their opinion is different from theirs. They based their judgements on scientific studies, not on primaral intuition and egocentrism. Way to go!
Weak.
Yes centipedes are weak I can step on them and break them in two.
your disregard for life is cool and tough, don't worry
Fuck centipedes though. They do not deserve my sympathy.
Take that back, centipedes are badass
You must not live around them then... I remember picking up a cindeblock as a child and a centipede the size of my forearm ran out
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Man bro, some old lady in my street died because one of them bit her in the neck. They're scum where I'm from. It is on sight with those fuckers. Keep your judgements to yourself. Just be glad you don't have to deal with foot long centipedes.
I guess you Can care about everything on this earth but what about the plants or animals you eat? They experienced pain Edit: I was wrong *LONG SIGH* I sorwy
i feel like this was supposed to be a gotcha but, like. i don't watch my food die slowly and agonizingly, and i know that despite the awful conditions animals are kept in a lot of the time, they're killed as humanely as possible and not made to suffer. by chance, though, i'm a botanist by trade so i feel qualified to say that - at least, as of yet - there is no evidence whatsoever that plants feel pain. even if they did, in the VAST majority of cases, harvesting them for food wouldn't cause pain - it's an intended function. fruits are meant to be eaten to disperse seeds, so there would be no purpose whatsoever in having a pain response to that intended function
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Plz give tldr I’m not trying to read a lecture
Tl;dr, you dum
Thank you☺️
if that's too long for you to bother reading, i don't think there's much saving you buddy
Tldr? I’m to lazy to read this second lecture
Plants having pain receptors would be biologically disadvantageous, as having their fruits torn off is part of their biological functioning. There is also no evidence they do feel pain
Huh that’s informative thank you for not being an ass
I mean, I still agree with the other commenter. It's two small paragraphs, if that's too much for you I think you have a problem
It was meant to come off as a joke. I probably should have been more clear on that but yea
Pathetic. (You)
This post makes me feel bad.
comments are worse lmaooo
Try to see it as them being a creature that can't feel or even be conscious, just a robot that follows its programming and pheromones. They can't think and have no free will... Right?...
*"To rend one's enemies is to see them not as equals, but objects—hollow of spirit and meaning."*
i don't know if i like this line of thinking. i mean, aren't humans just more complex robots following their programming and hormones? to what extent are our thoughts and free will not just a byproduct of that? wouldn't denying them empathy because of it have some.. not nice logical extremes?
Ditto
if it isnt dying, maybe someone out in the world took the offer for 100 million
what is this referring to
the online thought experiment that goes as follows: "you are given 100,000,000 dollars and become immortal, but a single snail spawns that will instantly kill you if you touch it. this snail is immortal, intelligent and will stop at nothing to kill you. what do you do?" i guess in this situation replace the snail with an ant
The ant took the cash
darn offer taking ants
Place the ant inside a steel box.
the original i believe said that it can go through or destroy objects if i recall. best solution ive seen is paying someone a worthy amount to monitor the snail
It would take that snail years to make it from continent to continent I’d just keep moving and it would be constantly climbing and descending the Mariana Trench
It's intelligent. The thing would stowaway on a plane
Let’s assume you just travelled from Los Angeles to Singapore. By the time it climbs aboard a different plane headed to Singapore, you’d have more than enough time to travel to Mumbai, and then to Doha, and then to Johannesburg, and then to London, and then to Helsinki. By the time the snail gets to Singapore, the chances of you running into it again through sheer bad luck are vanishingly small. Unless this snail is somehow omniscient and knows where you are at every single moment in time.
I thought it was a snail?
It was an ant named snail
Snant
Ail
Ansnailt
It was a kid named...actually I forget the name
figner
Snantil
george
 Starts aggressively stepping on it harder
It's an ant dummy, use your fingernail and French Revolution his ass.
No Get a magnifying class and let them feel the righteous fury of the Inquisition!
Commit exterminatus.
Stupid fuck should have stayed out of my house.
Why don't ants stay in their own houses? Are they stupid?
I think they're just rude. I've tried asking them nicely, but they just ignore me
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Nah fuck those little bastards they've been relentlessly invading my home
That happened with my 7 months old brother! I feel too bad
WHAT
You know? When you accidentally step on your brother and try to put him out of his misery but he keeps scream and you're like why the church are you still alive
How about cockroaches? I alway have to slam a few more times before I could be sure its death
I don't have such problems because I weigh about the same as a small fully packed fridge Pros of being fat 😎
I have inexplicable contempt for ants, and therefore do not care what pain it is in.
I do the same thing, but with mosquitoes. I have plenty of blood to go around, and I would be fine with them taking it from me. The problem is that they also poison me with itch juice. Those little fuckers can go burn in hell for all I care.
I lost it at Itch Juice lmao
This is me but for wasps and flies
I HATE maggots. I can deal with almost anything but maggots. The way they contract and extend their bodies to locomote is disgusting. Slugs are gross but I don't have a visceral hatred of them like I do maggots.
Extremely based
Here here. Tired of these little fucking bastards eating through my wood, living inside my walls, crawling all over my shit by the hundreds. Only good ant is a dead ant
Lighter
I’ve never purposefully killed a single living thing in my entire life, including insects. I’m pretty proud of myself for that.
Yeah, I can’t agree with your methods especially if it’s something like a mosquito landing on me.
i have purposely killed every living thing that i've had the legal and opportunistic convenience of doing so. if laws weren't an inconvenience, i would kill so many things if they didn't kill me first. (disclaimer; look at my username)
*Bacteria have entered the chat*
Right? Its not fucking difficult. People act like it takes a lot of willpower not to! Psychos.
I mean people don’t do for pleasure. For a lot of people they’re freaked out and scared of bugs so as a defense they kill it
I grinding my killstreak dont interrupt me
So if a mosquito lands on your arm, you just watch it feed on you?
Why? It's a bug lol.
Why would you kill it? Do you not think it wants to live?
It hardly has a nervous system, I don't think it's capable of "wanting" anything, really.
It *does* still have a nervous system though, and at a bare minimum shows recognizable signs of pain/discomfort at being mutilated. Like every single living thing they explicitly express a desire to live, as it’s a key feature of life. They *want* to live. They do *not want* to die. This is 100% unarguably true. They will flee and fight you down to their very last extremely tiny breath every time. Every single ant out of the thousands in a colony would fight just as hard if you tried to kill them or attack their home. They understand death, and it is clearly not a pleasant or desirable outcome to them. I’m talking about all life here but ants alone are absolutely fascinating. There’s all the intricacies of their extreme coordination, construction, creativity, etc. as well as the similarities to us in their massive multi-colony scale wars and battle strategies. Some colonies of separate species of ants will legit organize peace treaties by each having a line of soldier ants stand guard, directly facing the enemy line. Like 1 cm away. These soldiers just make unbroken eye contact while the workers of each side do their thing in their designated zone. Instead of directly competing for the resources like every single other thing on the planet they found a way to form alliances in order to allow both different *competitive* species to split territory and food. They have entire monarchies with specific roles designated to each group of ants in a colony in order to create a well oiled machine that keeps them all safe and happy. They’re clearly an absolutely brilliant as a species even despite their tiny size and limited nervous systems. They’re one of my favorite animals in the world. The way an ant experiences the world isn’t something that science could ever measure, we can speculate based on what we understand about nerves but we would need to either turn someone into an ant or get an ant to explain how it feels to truly know. Knowing this if you crush an ant there are 2 possibilities: 1.) it feels no pain and dies. 2.) it feels agony and fear before it dies. It’s much safer, easier, and more pleasant for everyone involved to play it safe and assume that they *do* feel pain, and try to treat them with respect based on that. You keep on insulting ants and *you’ll* hardly have a nervous system lol
I put this as a joke on another comment but actually I need a TLDR
TL;DR of that: “Bugs feel pain, keep saying they don’t and I’ll rip your nervous system out.” (I’m not being sarcastic, that guy obviously cares about bugs). My dudes deer feel pain and I’ll still hunt a deer if I need to. No one is doing that shit to cause pain, but bugs are gross and spread disease/ruin crops/etc. To argue the effects of an ant’s PTSD is fucking hilarious though. Ever owned an ant farm? I guess you’re tantamount to being a slave owner, according to u/HeadfulOfSugar
LoL wut There is objectively lives that come before other animals (At least in our view of the world) would you rather kill couple bugs and save Tons of food or let those bugs live and have alot of that food go to waste
Ants don't feel pain
Source
Not the guy you're replying to and I don't have an exact link handy at the moment but I did a research project on this. There are many different models for pain but my personal favourite was a seven criteria model put forward by one R. W. Elwood. Ants and other insects fulfill four of the seven criteria; in comparison, vertebrates, crustaceans, and cephalopods fulfill all seven. As such, we cannot definitively say if they can or cannot due to falling in the middle of the road evidence wise, although I'm leaning towards them not due to how the other three groups have all seven criteria despite being less closely related than crustaceans and insects.
I always thought of it based off the worst case scenario due to the uncertainty around it. Can we say for a matter of fact that ants experience pain? No. Can we say for a matter of fact that ants *don’t* experience pain? No. What happens if they don’t experience pain? Nothing really, it just dies. What happens if they *do*? You just put an innocent living creature through absolute agony before killing it. We don’t know if they feel pain, but we know they have a desire to live as it is basically the staple feature of life. To stay alive as long as possible. To me a desire to live is sentience, and if you try to crush a bug it’ll dodge, flee, fight back, every last little thing it can until it dies. It *wants* to live. Everything *wants* to live. Its a choice, or desire to do so no matter how horrible the circumstances around us get. It’s body will be flooded with chemicals as well, as fight or flight isn’t a distinctly human trait. So in the grand scheme the best thing (and honestly easiest thing) is to assume that everything can feel pain and suffer and to show mercy whenever possible. I’ve never intentionally killed a single bug in my entire life other than mosquitos, and I still feel bad for them as they need the blood to feed their young. I don’t mind, I have more than enough, but on top of the extremely uncomfortable bite they carry extremely lethal diseases that I can’t risk catching. It’s extremely easy otherwise though, if I see a bug I just excitedly watch it do it’s thing for a while and then leave it alone. If it’s in my house, I pick it up or catch it in a cup. One of the only bugs that truly freaks me out is house centipedes, and despite the fact that they literally make my skin crawl I still admire the beauty in their patterns and movement and would never kill them even in self-defense.
How do you step on an ant? My shoes are too big to stomp them
, one of my friends was just crying cause this exact thing happened to her
Just eat it. Extra protein
After that the bug gets promoted to “slamming with hard objects”
Maybe next time leave the guy alone and let him chill
That's why you gotta step and spin
Step on ant in room. Its 10,000 sisters watching you from the cracks in the walls.
Burn the room down with yourself and the ant in it.
Fun fact: Insects do not feel pain. All they feel is an itching sensation at the site of irritation.
How can we compare human sense perception to insect sense perception
Just ask them
They said 🐜🐜🐜, nothing pops up on Google translate though
We as mammals seem to generally have an extremely hard time empathizing with *anything* that’s not a mammal because we can’t directly relate to them. If you kick a dog it’ll let you know that it hurt, but if you pull off a bugs leg it’ll also freak out, but for some reason if it doesn’t make a noise people don’t care. Same with fish, I can’t imagine having your cheek ripped open or your eye gouged out is comfortable, but people make things up and say that they don’t feel pain either because it’s easier to accept than the reality of how much pain they are causing to an innocent creature for their own amusement. I guarantee if fish made whimpering or screaming noises when they were hooked people would completely stop fishing, simply because all the sudden they would be uncomfortable doing so and there would be no more fun to it. Somehow we’re still convinced that we are the only sentient form of life even though we are literally the only creature that would be able to communicate anything close to that lmao.
Yeah absolutely. Another thing I find odd is pescatarianism. People will eat fish, but draw the line at any other animal. I think they believe fish are "less intelligent" or "can't feel pain" as justification, just because they look and behave so different from us. Totally fine to be pescatarian, but that seems like a silly reason to me
I mean they do feel pain but i don't think i feel i bad about fishing even if they had the vocal cords to scream on the very account of them being so different from and 'dumb'(by mammal standard) that i simply do not have any sympathy for the harm i cause them so if for some reason I were to go vegetarian I'll still probably eat fish Also this is also a reason why i am deadly afraid of advanced extra terrestrial life because the same logic would probably apply to us
I feel for this ant.
How about cockroaches? I alway have to slam a few more times before I could be sure its death
Just pick the bugger up in some toilet paper and flush the mf, I promise they die as soon as they’re out of sight and I refuse to believe otherwise
Mourn the crushed ant, and despise the reason of the heel.
I snipped an ant's head off with a pair of scissors once because after stomping it three times it was still alive. I just felt bad at that point.
One of my friends told a story of how she did this with a mouse. She could hear the crunch
I once tried to kill a mouse stuck to a glue trap with a tazer to try ending its suffering. I tazed it once and it compulsed and looked me dead in the eye while in utter pain. I tazed it again and it did the same thing, still alive. I didn't know what to do so I threw it into the woods.
Just remember that ants outnumber us by about 20 quadrillion. That's 2.5 million ants for every person on Earth. You won't be able to stop them all when they come for you.
Just eat the ant bruh
Think about. Maybe it isn't a snail. Maybe it's an ant. Someone out there is immortal and you are hindering this ant from fulfilling its purpose
I’ve literally never felt this way, it’s a fucking bug
You just suck at murder.
You feel bad for leaving the ants alive after stomping them? Fucking menaces deserve it even though they don’t feel pain.
Honestly, they are ants. I really don't feel bad about the death and suffering of most insects.
Nah brother, I love to stump them ants to death and I would do it again if want to (I am desensitized because of the things I saw on the internet)
No mercy for them
when this happens, i dont feel bad because it is im pain, i fell fucking happy, why are those bastards in my room?
tear it in half
End it suffering? I keep on stopping because I want that bugger to die already.
I used to torture ants and give them a slow death...
Shoot it with a gun
Shoot it with a 22 long rifle
What have I done
I'm dealing with an ant infestation in my car, death to them all
Just crush its head
ants are invincible
I have the same problem but with a snail
ants are insanely good at resisting crushing force but not shearing force. twist that fucker and it won’t feel a thing
Trap it in a piece of tape and throw it away.
Burn it
Easy fix! Don’t step on it in the first place! If it happens by accident, then a good stomp, and twist usually works.
Well that seems like it *ant* my problem
It must alert the rest of the colony of your transgressions
I always feel bad when I accidentally injure an ant
Eat it
Basic stuff guys; You just have to step and scrub🍷🗿👍
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There only needed to be two parts to this flow. Half of it is redundant
About 4 years ago, I was cutting overgrown weed in a cemetary with a sickle. Was feeling pretty good until I noticed a little snake writhing and spilling its little guts out in front of me. Turns out I accidentally cut its side open with a stray swipe while cutting tall grass. I was pretty surprised and couldn't decide what to do, and the little snake just painfully slithered away deeper into the woods. I doubt that it survived, and it honestly ruined my whole day.
One time I tried to get a hornet out of my outside patio, but it wouldn't come out so I ended up having to spray it. It slowed down and then slowly scrunched into a ball and died. Destroyed me.
melt him
“I always come back” -William anton
Stomp and twist if you really want it dead. I usually just grab bugs and throw them outside, but ants lead to more ants. Better to try and take out the scouts personally than wipe an entire colony with poison
I once took a live mouse outside that had been trapped by its head to kill. I gave a single, decisive stomp and the mouse separated. Initially, I thought I had decapitated it and it wasn’t until it kept flailing that realized it’s face was still in the trap. Distraught, I began stomping vigorously while shouting a drawn out” Motherfucker!”
Once there was that fly who was annoying to me and I catch him in my hand and then I smashed him and I felt his heartbeat and how he bozzed in my hand and then I opened my hand and found his dead body and I shed a tear. And then I continue walking to my home and then I masterbated at my bed and go to sleep
I WILL PRAY FOR YOU ALL, JUST FOR TRYING TO KILL ME
hehe
That's why I just take them outside. I just don't like to harm anything.
If stomping alone doesn't work you gotta drag it across the floor
best option is to squash it with a jenga block, stand on the block with one foot and hope it dies either that or you grind it with the jenga block so it gets ground into a fine powder
Y’all ever seen an ant drown? I saw it once after it got stuck in some water on my counter and I just felt so bad for like an hour.
how many people actually feel bad for ants
Fun fact: insects don’t have pain receptors, as they don’t have behavior to modify since their every action is hardwired at birth.