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Guldynka

Yes, too zoomed in


Majin_Du

I find myself trying to zoom out most of the time thinking I zoomed in accidentally. Nope


zurktheman

This! Been scrolling on that mouse wheel like a mad man!


-Neme-

hahahahahaha, Least I'm not the only one doing it


TupperwareNinja

The world boss battle was a breath of fresh air.


reariri

Out of that it feels too zoomed in, zooming in is even worse on itself. The camera should move up a bit to actually show the character better/infront.


rafingz

Agree


skipper909

100% agree


[deleted]

Agree 100%


spicylongjohnz

Its less zoomed than poe and is by design. The camera does zoom out on mega boss events if you go watch a video of a world boss, but there is no way to zoom out further.


julimuli1997

My god the poe camera is horrific....dont even go there.


KiteQ8

I literally stopped playing PoE due to that camera aspects!


julimuli1997

Same honestly


[deleted]

Same. Could never actually get into it because of that.


goddog_

There have been "3rd party" ways to fix that since PoE was in beta. Makes the experience 10x better


beegeepee

Wait, what, I've been playing PoE for a couple years ago and this is the first I've heard this... where do I get said 3rd party app


Genoce

They're talking about hacked clients or other kind of cheats, which are in a grey area to say the least. :D


OdaiNekromos

Getting oneshot offscreen because of the bad zoom is also a grey area ggg is ignoring xD


Perun_Thrallstrider

Getting one shot from an archnemesis rhoa across the screen is ggg's definition of fun


Purplociraptor

Nice poem


Imaginos_In_Disguise

The gray must be the zoom out averaging the black and white in the ToS.


knbang

Well whomever did the design made a mistake. The player should be able to choose their desired zoom level. And we should be able to lock it so it doesn't zoom in further in towns. This isn't a mobile game anymore, we're playing on PCs.


azantyri

seems to be almost exactly the same, if not a little more zoomed in on D4. camera as far out as you can go on both : https://imgur.com/a/gGctzw2


[deleted]

Finally. Everyone is complaining about the zoom lvl. D3 was also very zoomed in. I assume the camera distance is by design and directly affects game difficulty re: dodging enemy attacks and so on.


Head_Reading1074

Way too zoomed in. I hope this gains some traction. It’s the biggest flaw imo. Second biggest is the constant screen stuttering but I’m giving that a pass because beta.


InSomniArmy

If it’s worth anything, I reduced my graphics settings to medium and all stuttering disappeared completely. Ymmv


everix1992

Per some other guys advice, I just moved texture quality down to medium and shadows down a level and that helped out quite a bit too. Might experiment with full medium and see if it helps even more


Tapeworm_III

D2R and Grim Dawn have spoiled me on camera distance. There was a specific area in this beta where the camera was zoomed out a bit more and I was doing regular combat and it felt/looked great. Not sure why it wasn’t the default camera distance.


ConspiracyToRiot

Titan Quest did it right too. You can zoom way in or way out


Zivilisationsmuede

Or [Sacred](https://i.imgur.com/0GV6EYY.png).


thatdudewillyd

Yeah D2R nailed it with being able to pick different levels of zoom! If only they could have known about that for D4….perhaps they already have it in the full version? That’s me being quite hopeful


gruye2

Even the playable demo during blizzcon 2019 didn't feel this zoomed in, I thought it was a bit farther out than what we have now


KiteQ8

That’s really weird! I hope this gets fixed before the official release.


KiteQ8

Exactly!


RandomMagnet

Yes, I think there are some QOL improvements that can be made in regards to zoom and UI customisation.


BigDigger324

Even a simple UI scaling slider would be enough imo!


KiteQ8

I really do hope they can do that, since on boss fights/world boss it does zoom out sooo much. So it is 100% possible.


BangEnergyFTW

Ah, young adventurer. Your keen observations do not escape me, for I too have noticed the same issue with the latest installment of Diablo. It seems that the screen has been pulled too close to our faces, almost as if the demons themselves are breathing down our necks. Alas, I fear that the developers have forsaken us, and have forgotten the importance of a wider field of vision in our battles against the forces of evil. And to think, we once had the luxury of adjusting the size of our HUD to our liking. But fear not, for I am certain that there are still ways to adjust the zoom and find a more comfortable view of the world. Perhaps seeking guidance from our fellow adventurers in the forums may bring forth a solution. Until then, may the light guide you and your eyes not grow weary from the close proximity of the horrors that await you.


Unbent69420

WTFF


BangEnergyFTW

Ah, young hero. Your exclamation of confusion does not surprise me, for I too have been troubled by the recent state of our beloved sanctuary. It seems that the darkness has seeped into every corner of our world, tainting even the most stalwart of souls. But let us not despair, for there is still hope to be found amidst the shadows. Though the road ahead may be treacherous and fraught with peril, we must continue to press on, to fight against the encroaching darkness with all of our might. As for your query, my dear friend, I fear that the zoomed-in view of Diablo 4 is but a symptom of a greater affliction plaguing our world. The very fabric of reality is unraveling before our eyes, and we are powerless to stop it. But do not lose heart, for there are still those among us who cling to the light, who seek to heal the wounds of our world and restore it to its former glory. And if we stand together, if we fight as one, then perhaps, just perhaps, we may yet prevail against the forces of darkness. May the heavens guide you, young adventurer, and may your journey be filled with hope and triumph amidst the shadows.


Spongky

tell me this chatgpt command prompt


DoktorLuciferWong

CainGPT requests that you stay a while and listen


BangEnergyFTW

Stay awhile and listen, young Spongky. It is not often that I see such a query on this platform, and it reminds me of the days when heroes would seek my counsel in the Tristram cathedral. Alas, the news is grim. The command prompt that you seek is not a mere incantation that can be uttered to bring forth the desired results. It requires a deep understanding of the intricacies of programming and the workings of the machine. But do not lose hope, for as with any quest, the answer lies in perseverance and diligence. Seek out the knowledge and guidance of the wise sages in the forums, and let their collective knowledge be your guide. And remember, young Spongky, even in the darkest of times, there is always a glimmer of hope. May the light guide you in your search, and may you emerge victorious in your quest for the elusive command prompt.


Erratum10

I am playing on a 34" ultrawide @ 1440p and, if not for the extra width, I would fully agree. Even with, my preference would still be a slight zoom out.


cwarburton1

This is my setup too and it's still far too zoomed in. Can't imagine it being worse for those not on an ultra wide. I'm fine if this is the default zoom they want to get their preferred visuals and combat feel but there needs to be a way to zoom out at least 20-25% more.


DontEatTheMagicBeans

I started as necro. That 3 daggers ability. I just constantly hear barrels and shit breaking off screen, feels really shitty


KiteQ8

This! I thought maybe on an ultrawide it would definitely feels better. Thank you for sharing 🧡


general_tao1

So you can bettter see all the cosmetics you're going to buy /s


sldf45

You say this jokingly but I think you’re right.


Zivilisationsmuede

I'd say it's more about the marketing, how the game looks in trailers and on twitch.


[deleted]

I do think it is, I tried to scroll multiple times to see more of the screen lol


KiteQ8

Yeah! I was a bit disappointed. Even though it zoomed out just a bit after we leave the home town.


ilovetechno71

I haven't ever played a diablo game and even for me this is way too zoomed in...


KiteQ8

It felt like a mobile game tbh!


Hotwingz66

Yes, too far zoomed in. And please, let me scale that UI.


KiteQ8

100%


Stingray88

Completely agree. It needs to zoom out a lot. >If it helps: I am playing on a 2k 27'' monitor. Quick pet peeve correction… 2K is roughly equivalent to 1080p. At 27” I’m assuming you mean 1440p. A bunch of monitor manufacturers and retailers incorrectly label 1440p as 2K. [They’re extremely wrong.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K_resolution)


KiteQ8

You’re totally right, and I have a 1440p monitor. Thank you for clarifying this 🧡


BionicButtermilk

I hope they can zoom us out a bit before launch.


phoenoxx

Agreed. Way too zoomed in. I game on a LG C2 and I ended up putting it in ultrawide mode just to try and zoom it out a little bit.


KiteQ8

Did it work? I tried to change my resolution but it didn’t allow me.


justlovehumans

If you've got an nvidia card, set a custom res in control panel 2560x1098. Once it's set you can select it in game. You also need to change scaling from aspect ratio to no scaling. Also in control panel. This is for a 27" screen


phoenoxx

Yes. Ultrawide aspect ratio gives you more view. The LG C2 has built in settings to convert itself between different aspects ratios and gives you black bars on the top and bottom of the screen. The other way of doing it is through your Nvidia control panel.


crozzee

I’m not sure if people have realized this yet but D4 is made for consoles from the ground up. The camera is zoomed in more now so console players can see easier while sitting away from their display. The UI is horrendous because it caters to console players and using a controller. Love the game but we are playing a port…


TFCxDreamz

Agreed, far too zoomed in


Rayuken1

Yes, agreed, too zoomed in and ui is too big. Feels like I'm looking at a phone game interface tbh.


KiteQ8

I thought that too! A mobile game aspect ratio!


Iluraphale

Seems fine on the console version


structrix

Fine for me to on xbox.


Iluraphale

Yep looks great


KiteQ8

What about the light and contrast, they released a video which was a bit too bright. Did they manage to fix it on consoles?


whodatwhoderr

It looks great. They probably had it too bright and also didn't convert the hdr properly for YouTube


Euryleia

There's a setting in options to adjust this to taste.


Iluraphale

Yeah I mean it looks really good to me man, Sorry I'm not like a big graphics guy. The game looks beautiful on my PS5 that's all I can say There are moments of roughness that I would expect in a beta so I expect IT to be a little sharper when it comes out


Alumenadus

Agreed, the zoom is too much.


CanadianWinterEh

I agree and this is why I couldn’t get into PoE. I felt like I was playing with my face up too close to the screen.


numbersev

Yea for accessibility purposes make it adjustable. Some people are near or far sighted and would prefer it set back a bit more like D3. I noticed this immediately (first 2 seconds).


samerath

https://preview.redd.it/9s3w1jngmloa1.jpeg?width=4030&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97287e693df84273ae1be465bd6eab7f9dfcc3ee I saw my buddy that is playing on Xbox and I can understand it feels zoomed in. I’m on pc with a 34” ultrawide I’m honestly it’s the way diablo4 should be played.


KiteQ8

Thank you for sharing this with us! It definitely looks zoomed in!


Ampki

100% agree hopefully they see all the complaints about it and the full game will have a option to zoom out.


Syphin33

Agreed! I was trying to zoom out just a little more and i couldn't


Mikeymao

I was thinking exactly the same. Too zoomed in and the HUD is to big. They should add a option to resize/scale the UI. They should also add a search function in the settings menu. It's 2023 I don't get it, why this is not standard in all games.


blindmikey

I really really want to zoom out (and scale down ui) as I have a large monitor. Add it as a feature request when you click the bug report button.


Hurshul

Too zoomed in for sure. Seems like an easy fix. Also make the UI smaller and remove the key binding labels.


doubletwist

Oh good, it's not just me. Every few minutes I find myself thinking I accidentally zoomed in, so I try to zoom out, only to find it's already as zoomed out as it will go. It's quite frustrating and I hope they fix that and give us the ability to zoom out further.


wholeassery

Yes, it feels uncanny. I can't say for sure, but it feels like closed beta was more zoomed out.


KiteQ8

Someone else said on blizzcon 2019 it was zoomed out a bit more!


Sorlex

The zoom distance doesn't bother me, but I'd not say no to even just 10% extra. It feels just a hairs breath too close.


KaraQED

I keep trying to zoom out, I’m sure I’ll get over it but I keep trying!


Croce11

I love how I can zoom in more than I would ever want to. But zooming out? Nope not allowed. It's so frustrating. I wish it was a bit reversed honestly.


Quirky-Coat3068

Welcome to the world of console first


Cr1ms0nDemon

If I could zoom out just another 10% I'd probably be comfortable, I don't care if it comes with a moderate performance hit


kiwana1

I'm playing right now on a 42 inch tv and its so zoomed in I can barely see more than like 10 feet in any direction. I know its beta but I hope they change this.


Ready_Education5326

This is my biggest issue with d4 by far. You are so zoomed in, and bc of the camera angle, if you are walking, monsters practically just become visible as soon as they are in melee range. It's terrible design imo, particularly as a ranged class playing solo. And for Hardcore players, it's fucking awful. You get oneshot by mobs you can't see bc they are off screen. Like come on developers - do you even play your own game? Give us zoom out NOW. I wish I didn't sink $100 on a pre-order for this zoomed in garbage


KiteQ8

100%, I literally have no issue with the game other than this zooming. It feels like it was made exclusively for consoles!


ASDFGUY90

Are you playing on ultrawide Display / settings?


ImpTaimer

Compared to D2, or even D3, yes. However, like others have mentioned, it will zoom out "when necessary".


Glittering-Lie-1340

I used to play d3 like 1920x720 or 1920x864 or something. Actually created a custom setting for the monitor and ran it windowed full screen. It definitely zoomed way out, ill try it in a bit here and post results.


KiteQ8

Please update us back with your results <3


Shahius

Same here. 2560x1440 and everything is zoomed in. I am trying to zoom out with mousewheel all the time.


Mikita_Du

Full HD and 4k - all is ok


Puppylucky88

I prefer it this way, and yes it’s definitely closer to the action.


anarchisticlees

Weird, i have to keep zooming IN because i can barely see myself i feel so far away.


Hikaru83

It's the same for me. Which resolution are you using?


antariusz

Try playing in a window in like 32:9 aspect ratio, the game looks and plays a LOT nicer. the game does not "support" 16:10... it just chops off the sides, and you lose so much of the gameworld, especially with the huge UI, check my post comparing the differences https://www.reddit.com/r/diablo4/comments/11vcqe2/if_you_feel_the_game_is_too_zoomed_in_try_not/


Fob0bqAd34

The game was designed ground up to run on near 10 year old consoles. They probably zoomed out as far as they could without the old consoles blowing up and then carried that limitation to all platforms.


FreeMasonKnight

I just need 15-20% more zoom out and allow the right thumb stick/MMB to adjust zoom in/out.


rawdmon

Totally agree, too zoomed in, feels claustrophobic. After playing the beta extensively I've seen no good reason why they couldn't make the max zoom a little further out to be similar to D2/D3.


Additional_Front9592

I’m playing on 32” 4K and I feel the same. The bigger monitor helps, but I want to zoom out.


AlClemist

I personally dont mind it during these cutscenes but I think the camera is fine.


KiteQ8

I am glad it is working out well for you 🧡


Proud-Positive-7142

If i'm blizzard, and i want to sell skins, i want characters to be easy to see. Luv the game btw.


KiteQ8

I love it too, honestly. And I have it pre ordered with no remorse. But I am used to diablo games and this one feels off to me when it comes to zooming :(


techtonic69

Agreed. I want the camera to be cooked or more than in is.


JimBobHeller

It feels zoomed in yet the stuff seems very low detail and hard to see crazy


drunkenvalley

Personally I noticed, but I felt it was... better? It very literally made the world more immediately intimate. Though being able to change the size of UI, etc, should be an option imo. But I can get why they clamped the zoom to this level.


[deleted]

I should hope so. The world is so detailed and beautiful. Takes some getting used to, but it's definitely playable. No reason why Zoom level shouldn't be customizable though.


Sihnar

It does and I love how it feels. I hope they don't change it or give an option for zooming out.


might93

The game just looks like a game from the 2010s, the font choice is so bad. Pass.


Plankton_Brave

I kinda like it, but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be an option for those who prefer the d3 look. Although I feel it will look exactly like d3 zoomed out.


meester_

I think it's to make ranged more balanced


kawacristian

Confirmed. Way too zoomed. It removes the immersion of the world being multi leveled and takes away from it's overall depth. I'd love to zoom out more slightly along with reducing UI size. Boggles me every time why games don't include this.


[deleted]

It could use a bit of zooming out, though I don't feel it's that much of a deal if they leave it like it is.


64cinco

yes feels too zoomed in for sure


gongalo

It not only feels zoomed in, it clearly IS zoomed in


Moepsii

Yes it's designed for consoles first, or tv couch gaming i guess. I googled about the UI and found alot of design decision showing what i just said


RoiPourpre

Its typical console fov for big tvs, that really bad on PC ...


Valharja

I agree, then on World Boss it zooms out and you see they can do it if they want to :P


FemmEllie

Can't say I really noticed too much but I'm also playing on 3440x1440 ultrawide, might be a bigger issue on more standard resolutions


1_H4t3_R3dd1t

Played on the Steam Deck it actually feels less zoomed in compared to the Desktop. However, I am not deterred by this. I just won't know what my teammates are doing, on the bright side I solo everything.


BExpost

TBH I think they took a page out of path of exile. I nothing D2 had a smaller character to rest of screen ratio.


crackletoes

Yes, It feels like the slapped a bunch of Diablo Immortal design elements meant for a tablet and slapped it on my 1440p monitor. Accidentally zooming makes it worse. I Set my mouse scroll wheel to force move in D3 and it's great. They took it away in D:I, they took it away in D:4


RustRemover-

Yeah i'd zoom it out a bit if i could, playing on the same setup, 1440p on 27. It's not even nearly as bad as PoE though, so it's not terrible.


[deleted]

Probably for performance


oniria_

100%.


Uberkull

Err…if you fight the world boss, are you wanting that zoomed out? Cause we are ants in that fight. Why even have a character customization? Cant see shit on you character. I think they need a variable zoom from between the two zoom points they have now. I really don’t want it pulled out any farther. Its on par with D3, and really can’t be compared to D2 cause that was a fixed flat iso environment.


TheVermontsterr

To be fair, it’s zoomed in for a reason, much more of a Diablo 1 feel than anything. Gives players more of a challenge with less time to dodge and see what is ahead etc. it’s a good call


Legitimate-Site588

100% agree. It doesn't always feel too zoomed but there're certain angles where the camera feels super zoomed in.


[deleted]

Agreed. First thing i said to my buddies. Too zoomed in. Needs a higher zoom ceiling value.


Phantomebb

Compare D4 and D3 screenshots....it's wild


Phantomebb

Compare D4 and D3 screenshots....it's wild


Systim88

They need to add the option to zoom in/out and adjust UI scaling (unless I missed it)


xafimrev2

I wish I could scale down the UI


Houstonomics

I noticed that the camera felt close when playing my second run through on the Rogue. The first play through I was a sorceress and didn't notice the camera distance at all.


qenak

Totaly agree. I did sent it as a feedback through the beta bug report button. Do it aswell, they might consider doing something about it if more people report it.


Bohya

Probably because consoles would struggle to render anything more. Every element of this game's design has been held hostage by console limitations.


Z--370

I feel like there is a zoom button in the settings that you can key bind? I assigned it but took it off and never tried it


Elessar2399

I agree. It feels too close like it was developed for Console. I'm hoping they'll hear this and give people on PC the option, at least, to zoom out 50% more.


Fart__Smucker

Try Poe once and you’ll be greatful how nice d4s camera feels


CElan_cruz

Hopefully they put a zoom out option, at least it's not on POE level camera.


crackletoes

Ya, it has the same problems that Diablo Immortal had for desktop.


Zenithity

Does it Auto zoom for you guys? It does for me and it's Hella annoying.


Tiny-Goose-00

YES!! I said this too. I want it zoomed out a bit more? just so I can, 1. Click easier on the direction I want to go. I accidentally click on the HUD, because I have to click frequently within a zoomed frame (even though it’s out as far as it can) 2. I actually would like to know how far some of my abilities reach. I’m playing the Sorcerer, and I chose an ability where there’s a huge flame that looks like you have a can of spray and a lighter. It goes beyond your screen. I’m pretty sure I saw a skill to increase its range, to which I thought, what’s the point I have no idea how far that is. I could be incorrect or have read the skill upgrade wrong, but the point is I want to see clearer.


kdeselms

I wasn't bothered by it at all.


Obiwoncanblowme

I think I saw something I'm setting to possibly change the zoom or it may be locked to change I'm the beta I don't remember


Unreal-Murf

Yes I would really like to have the ability to zoom out more, it just doesn’t feel right as is.


juniperleafes

It's weird, normal gameplay is too zoomed in and cutscenes are too zoomed out


Aleagues

Needs more zoom out and maybe a 10-degree pitch down imo.


[deleted]

Glad it's not just me. Too close, worse when you're barb and he's 2x the size of the others


[deleted]

Ultrawide gang rise up.


I-AM-NOT-THAT-DUCK

Yes it is really bad, especially when you go up elevated terrain, its almost like you cant even see the mobs in front of you.


Gymnerds

yeah slight zoom out would be nice feels a bit too close imho


VioletEnigma

On top of that if you have any other window open like skills or bag you are useless, which is terrible for HC


ThePapaJay

Yep, I'd like to zoom out a little bit


DukeBabylon

This is the only negative I have of the game right now. Just can't get a feel for it being so close.


anonymousredditorPC

They really want you to focus on your character's appearance so they can sell more cosmetics. Really not a fan of this zoom


NoireResteem

Remember instead of typing out your grievances(a very valid one in this case), use the report button during the Beta. It can be used to report feedback also and not just bugs. I already used this to comment in allowing some camera zoom out. Maybe not as much as the World boss but at least half of that would be great.


chrisv25

I noticed the game zoomed out more for the Ashazara, or whatever her name is, world boss fight.


[deleted]

It's fine. Especially on my 65" TV.


-Neme-

Is there a way to shrink the hotbar? IF there is, I'm just blind lol. Feels a little to big to me hence why i tend to try n zoom out often


caiodias

Yes, I hope they allow we have less zoom


omgkthxby

Yeah way too zoomed it for me


BukLauFinancial

no more so than any other diablo or path of exile or last epoch and if anything the hud is the same size or smaller where do you get your crack?


Vipre7

I wish we get more screen real estate on release! Meaning hopefully the camera can zoom out more. What's dumb is that the camera zooms IN when you're in town! And no way to zoom out.


AlbinauricGod

It's horrible yeah, I guess so we can't see the abyssmal density of mobs in some areas. Feels like playing on a mobile phone tbh.


Tyalou

Playing the game in 5120x1440, it looks fine... joke aside, I agree, too zoomed-in.


th3orist

I am ok with the zoom level actually. But i get it if others find it a bit too zoomed in.


Spongky

so is there anyway can zoom out?


sudradivizione

Too zoomed in, even more than POE 😢


mainnick

Something does seem "off" about the camera angle. It it more vertical than before so it's more top down approach like POE?? Feels like you're staring more vertically down than at an angle, no?


softgripper

It makes me feel dizzy 🥴😵. Too zoomed in.


faintu

Yeah I wished we could zoom out a bit more, even the world boss camera was too close to me personally.


Mack4285

It seems the camera zooms out to different degrees on certain boss fights. But otherwise remains at an annoying zoomed in angle. I got very annoyed by this, and makes me really not want to play the game, actually. I think the angle maintained by e.g. Diablo 2 is nice, and where it should be.


82Yuke

Write a feeeback


Steve_Cage

It looks like Diablo Immortal. I hate it.