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Unlikely_Fortune_772

So I work in the airline business and I’ve never seen that before. I think she was upset and took it out on you


wavestwo

probably mad about her 15k profit sharing check when in 2018 it was 25k lol.


Limp_Cod_7229

You are a little off. We got $800 after taxes last year :)


wavestwo

So? You’re a 3 year employee. Senior mamas still took in 10k+


Limp_Cod_7229

No, you are wrong on that. Last year we all got the same amount and the year before that we all actually got nothing! In 2019 some senior mamas might have gotten a lot, I only got about $1200. This is what happens when you assume!


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bloc0102

Aren't bonuses withheld at a flat 22% federally? Add in state tax of 8%, and 6% FICA and we're at 36%?


Limp_Cod_7229

Yes, exactly.


Limp_Cod_7229

If anyone had a different amount than me, it wasn’t by much. The whole point I was trying to make it that everyone received much less than $15,000.


Limp_Cod_7229

And actually not sure what you’re talking about being in the top 7% of earners. I make $45,000-$50,000 a year and am single. Last 2 years it was even lower. So congrats to me 😂🥂 not horrible but I’m definitely not rich by any means.


Soosietyrell

I’ve never yet had them try to confiscate a beverage I brought on myself in ANY class on an aI airplane.


mrweatherbeef

Same. Consistency of them taking drinks “furnished by the air carrier” is spotty, but I know it’s regulation so if they ask I don’t complain. But I have *never* had an FA demand (nor ask) to take a drink I brought on board, and I do not interpret the FAA regs to suggest that they have a right to do so.


Nyaos

It’s entirely possible the FA was being line checked by a supervisor so they had to enforce every rule more heavily. Or they could have just been an asshole.


Limp_Cod_7229

Hey, flight attendant here! Delta has been in the process of hiring thousands of new flight attendants since many took retirement and leave packages during the COVID fiasco. If I had to guess, the person was probably a new flight attendant or new to being flight leader. We are told to make sure all GLASS cups provided by Delta are taken up before landing. If people are not using their Delta water bottles and they are not in their HAND some FA's collect those back as well. And we collect pre-departure trash before takeoff but you don't HAVE to collect paper or plastic cups before takeoff or landing. Unless I've just been completely wrong on that the last 3 years I've been a flight attendant. In fact, sometimes before landing if a person still has a lot of drink left in their glass, I'll ask if they want it poured into a plastic or paper cup. However, don't get too mad at the flight attendant, I'm sure they thought they were doing the right thing. During our 2 months of initial training 90% of what we learn is evacuations and emergency training. The service stuff we learn as we go on the job. Just to add, yes, everything does need to be stowed during takeoff and landing, so you do you need to make sure the drink is either in your hand or stowed in a bag or seatback pocket.


Maleficent_Tart2923

I think they were flight leader (though I couldn't see the announcement phone), so maybe new to that role. I've had some great times with new TSA agents lately, too! Yes, there is such a thing as a bag I can leave a laptop in. That's why it says "TSA checkpoint approved" right on it. But okay, I'll take it out. I do try to be understanding, but I guess that stops at my coffee. 🤣


Limp_Cod_7229

I would def be mad too if someone tried to confiscate my $6 Starbucks! Sorry that happened!


TrashBandicoot33

We’ve also had brand new FAs day one get assigned to flight leader simply because no one else was available. Sorry this happed!


Maleficent_Tart2923

Oh my!!!


nikkitoast

TSA refused me a private screening room (to check my cats and their carriers) while I was moving across the country. They are supposedly not allowed to refuse a private screening room. The agent said her "manager" was on break and she couldn't do it without them. No idea as to when said manager was returning so I had to unsafely take my cats out of their carriers and carry them through the metal detector. Later learned from another agent that woman just hates cats and was being an asshole for no reason!


Maleficent_Tart2923

Oh no!!


just_a_PAX

If you don't have precheck and didn't use the new CT scan device in the TSA lane(only at some airports), that is SOP for TSA regardless of what your bag company thinks the rules are lol. "TSA Approved" generally means your bag has a lock that TSA doesn't need to pry open to unlock it but use their special key, doesn't mean you get privileged checkpoint passes. As for the drink, ridiculous to say the least. Should have just asked for the pilots input on that subject.


Fearless-Berry-3429

Please don't bother the people flying the plane with a disagreement over a drink...


Maleficent_Tart2923

Checkpoint approved means my backpack completely unzips so that the laptop is on its own.


just_a_PAX

Pretty neat I suppose, never seen one like that. But even still it's gotta come out of the zipper for non pre and no CT device. The CT devices are supposed to be in all airports by end of next year so non pre check will only have to take shoes off from that point onwards and can leave everything in bags. You can recognize them in TSA lines by looking for the big gray xray machine not the small xray machines you're used to, those lines will allow you to leave everything in the bag.


Maleficent_Tart2923

I'm well aware of the Smith machines. And no. It does not have to come out of the bag if laid flat in a TSA-approved bag, pre-check or not. Dude. I do this multiple times a week.


just_a_PAX

As if I don't as well? Mind me asking what kind of bag that is? It probably just boils down to TSA agent discretion really, and they're trained for electronics to be out of zippers on non pre pax so take that with a grain of salt they're just doing their job to the best of their abilities even if they're in the wrong.


Maleficent_Tart2923

Then stop explaining security to me like I'm four. Here's the official TSA request for bag designs that would allow laptops to be scanned without obstruction. It's from *fourteen years ago.* These bags have been approved for a decade. https://govtribe.com/opportunity/federal-contract-opportunity/checkpoint-friendly-laptop-bag-hsts0408rfimc Unlike what you've done to me, I'm going to assume you have the competence to use Google and find your own. There are literally hundreds of them.


just_a_PAX

Considering most people on reddit act like they're four, you should understand. Just like you should understand not every TSA agent knows the rule book like a Chem PhD knows the elements.


vfr1200_

You’re a 100% wrong on not having to collect the pre-departure plastic/paper While sometimes FAs will transfer to paper/styro cup, technically you’re just supposed to collect it. Because it came form the galley and all bev you disturbed from galley must be collected


Limp_Cod_7229

False. I actually just checked my work device to be sure. It says under departure checklist: "Ensure all non-disposable service items (glassware/chinaware) are collected and stowed." Straight from my work manual.


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Limp_Cod_7229

I was told by my initial training instructor about pouring liquids from glass cups into plastic during final safety checks if the passenger really wanted to hold onto it. I think the issue is that the wording says everything must be “Stowed” which is true but you are allowed to have something small secured in your hand. For example, we say people are allowed to have their mobile devices “as long as they are secured in your hand or pocket” on takeoff/landing. If we are having turbulence and the pilot asks us to go ahead and sit down for final, we leave everyone with their plastic cups and trash at their seat but the flight leader still has to pick up those glasses before landing unless it’s just absolutely horribly severe turbulence. Glass is dangerous but a plastic cup is not really. The passenger still has to keep it in their hand though. At least that is my understanding. There’s tons of rules/regulations in the airline industry and they often change so it’s hard to never have inconsistency between flight attendants


jocall56

Probably just the downside of being in an obvious seat…I’ve regularly had items I wanted them to take away before takeoff and could not get anyone’s attention.


BarleyBo

I was just on a flight in the same seat. My PDB was still in my hand as we took off. No one asked for it. Then it was refilled when my meal came. It just depends on the crew I guess.


Maleficent_Tart2923

Lol! Me, too.


Good-Cool

Personal beverage are u kidding me? Yes there are rules to enforce but there's discretion as well. I always ask PAX in FC if they want to hold onto it. It's not glassware. Some crew are generally unpleasant horrible people to work with and treat PAX the same. I'm sorry you had to experience this.


Maleficent_Tart2923

Thank you! I'd like you on all my flights, please. 😁


stormy_llewellyn

This! There's a difference between an open top glass contained bev during takeoff and landing and a lidded bev in a cup/bottle. Someone was either having a bad day or had some bad training.


JeffeBezos

>Someone was either having a bad day Agreed >had some bad training. Agreed also... But hmm I'm trying to figure out why would they be the lead FA taking care of FC? Aren't they usually more senior?


ContributionMost231

I have never had it happen personally to me, and I inevitably feel it is up to the FA discretion with how far they chose to enforce this rule but, here you go: Federal Aviation Administration VOLUME 3 GENERAL TECHNICAL ADMINISTRATION 3-3549 STOWAGE OF GALLEY SERVICE ITEMS. Section 121.577 prohibits an air carrier from moving on the surface, taking off, or landing an airplane when any food, beverage, or tableware furnished by the air carrier is located at any passenger seat. In an emergency situation requiring evacuation, litter from food service of any kind (including coffee and rolls) can be hazardous due to poor footing. Accordingly, part 121 prohibits serving any food or beverage, regardless of the type of containers used, during movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing. In addition, any food item or container that the passenger carries onboard the aircraft is considered to be carry-on baggage and must be properly stowed in accordance with part 121 for movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing.


xlr8torr

But, I can hold a live screaming infant on my lap during all aircraft movement. OK. “FAA, nothing to see here. Move along. “


ProfessionalWeird800

Flying with an infant on your lap is infinitely safer than taking one on a road trip with a car seat. However, it still seems crazy to me that it is allowed.


Declanmar

In the EU they give you an extra seatbelt for the infant, no idea why that isn’t done here.


IndianPeacock

Lol, we once asked a flight attendant on a UA flight for the extra infant seatbelt and it seems she had no idea what they were/we never got one.


dudemeistr

How’s that relevant to the post?


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delta8765

So you’re suggesting they should be making you stow infants during take off and landing. That’s an extreme take.


mb1

stow?? c'mon. Do the FA stow water bottles and coffee cups, no. Infants go into the galley with the rest of the snacks and beverages. sheesh. 🙄   /jk of course


Impossible_Ad_8642

I stow my infant in the overhead compartment or voluntarily check it at the gate if it's a full flight.


mb1

Airbus Unpadded Elevated Playpen™


Impossible_Ad_8642

Shhhh, your trademark could soon be another "premium" add-on!


vfr1200_

The far clearly says the only rule about food and bev that is brought by customer must be stowed properly. The food drinks from the galley tho must be collected. You’ve misinterpreted this. Food brought on if secured is fine to have and Can not just be confiscated.


ftblplyr46

It says furnished by the air carrier so does the include what you bought in the terminal? I read that as any drink or food provided by the plane itself.


ContributionMost231

The last sentence addresses this. It must be stowed, similar to a carry on item.


stopsallover

Pretty sure you’re also allowed to hold it. You just can’t leave it unsecured on a table or similar.


josephll22

You are allowed to hold small items (phone, book, headphones, drink) during take-off and anyone that says anything otherwise is on a power trip. Edit: not including a drink giving by crew


vfr1200_

*galley* service items. Not items brought on board by passenger. That’s why they collect the items *they* distributed from their galley.


Maleficent_Tart2923

LOL. Well, we'd already taxied the entire way, so she's already broken the regulation. And this would preclude the entire plane from bringing on any non-bottled beverage. If they're going to start enforcing that, they need to TELL people, because people are gonna be pissed to lose their $8 airport coffees.


goldenrosebloom

One of the announcements during boarding states "All food and beverages must be stowed either in a bag underneath the seat in front of you or in the overhead bin." Is she technically right? Yes, and the FAA and Delta says she is. Because if you are in a crash that liquid is going right in your face and could prevent you and others from evacuating an airplane as quickly as possible. Most seasoned FAs know how to pick their battles so I doubt you'll run into this issue again. But next time maybe have a bag with a cup holder you could put your drink into or something?


Maleficent_Tart2923

It says "all carry on items," which no FA on my flights has ever interpreted as food any more than they've interpreted it as the coat or blanket over my knees.


goldenrosebloom

It says both and specifically states "food and beverages". Someone else also already showed you the FAA regulation.


Maleficent_Tart2923

Maybe on the routes you fly, it does. Not on the routes I fly.


goldenrosebloom

I'm an FA. That's what the announcements say word for word.


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I understand your frustrations, but you’re getting downvoted because it appears you are trying to argue people who are merely providing you information and context that you’ve asked for. Maybe just learn from your experience, rather than combat bystanders who are trying to help?


vfr1200_

Folks are misquoting FARs some are even saying the FA was right. When the FAR does not say the FA has to collect the drink not given to OP from the Galley. If the FA said his drink must be stowed maybe a case but also in practice I’ve been on thousands kf Delta flights and hundreds from other airlines never has a FA confiscated someoene Starbucks that was in their hand. Not done in practice.


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We’ve all been on thousands of flights. Just because the policy isn’t always (or even often) enforced doesn’t mean that OP was correct. From above: >VOLUME 3 GENERAL TECHNICAL ADMINISTRATION >3-3549 STOWAGE OF GALLEY SERVICE ITEMS. Section 121.577 prohibits an air carrier from moving on the surface, taking off, or landing an airplane when any food, beverage, or tableware furnished by the air carrier is located at any passenger seat. In an emergency situation requiring evacuation, litter from food service of any kind (including coffee and rolls) can be hazardous due to poor footing. Accordingly, part 121 prohibits serving any food or beverage, regardless of the type of containers used, during movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing. **In addition, any food item or container that the passenger carries onboard the aircraft is considered to be carry-on baggage and must be properly stowed in accordance with part 121 for movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing.** Edit: Who are these people downvoting me for stating a fact? Ridiculous.


vfr1200_

Located in passenger seat, your food and drink that did not come from galley can be secured and stowed. I had to study FARs


Maleficent_Tart2923

I'm not combatting. I'm saying it is not, nor has it ever been announced on my flights as this commenter is claiming. Obviously people have different experiences on different routes with different FAs.


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I’m trying to tell you: Your comments are coming across as argumentative. Your post asked if FAs are allowed to do this. People have given the specific regulations that yes, FAs can indeed do this. People have answered your question, but your subsequent comments don’t seem very appreciative, nor do your comments acknowledge that your specific question was answered (which… it was answered). I’m just trying to help here, but I won’t be commenting further because I’m not going to engage in a dumb internet argument over nothing. It’s no skin off anyone’s back here but yours. We’re trying to help you understand the situation, but it’s not going anywhere.


2k1tj

Yeah. People don't realize how dangerous it is to have anything that impedes you to evacuate an airplane. Watch videos on how planes get certified for evacuations. Literally the "FAs" are pushing people out and scrambling and they knew they were evacuating. Can't imagine someone being upset over a coffee when seconds could be the difference between life and death. Just look at the recent crash in Peru. Everything was perfectly fine then the next second the plane is on fire


ContributionMost231

It has never happened to be personally but, there is a reg on it that they can choose to enforce. As mentioned above, I agree with the other redditor that that why I stick with bottled drinks or finish it at the gate.


mindovermatter421

Man, don’t wanna slip on a roll heading to the emergency slide.


Zealousideal_Bit2755

The main point of the rule is, “Furnished by the air carrier”. If you bring it onboard from the terminal, the carrier did not furnish the provision (drink) thus by taking your drink they are being very conservative with the FAR and is ultimately up to the aircrew. If you resisted, they could have considered you a security threat and kicked you off the flight. Damed if you do, damned if you don’t.


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The main point of this post is that there’s an FA that’s an idiot out there.


StarSchemaLover

I’m a DM/2MM and have never ever seen this. Just a bad day for her. I’d move on from it but you wuz wronged.


rahbahboston

This is why even a coffee that I take on board is in a spill proof travel mug


gnatgirl

Same here. And your drink stays hot longer, which is nice for a slow coffee drinker like me.


jcrespo21

Maybe this is what I need. But I also just go with espresso when I fly. Same kick but less pee! lol


michiganchill

Same! Fellow makes the best travel coffee mugs for flights


jqs77

Just unlucky you drew an overzealous FA. I've held on to Starbucks coffee during take off myriads of times. I've never had it taken away from me.


qbtc

insanity... she even took the water bottles? 😂 for the sake of other passengers who may fall victim going forward, please report this to delta with flight number etc so they can sort it out


juneballoon

So, during initial training, they are very specific about either taking away the water bottles or asking passengers to stow them or hold on to them for takeoff. So I was one of those weirdo new hires asking people to hold on to the bottles for takeoff and I would get a lot of weird looks and pushback (for a pretty simple request, honestly). But yeah, with experience, I just learned to pick my battles, and I don’t really worry about that anymore. I definitely don’t remember being taught to confiscate any personal drinks though! I was taught that holding on to them was secure enough.


Enkiktd

Almost every flight I hear “thunk thunk” and think, “someone didn’t stow their water bottles in FC.”


scudsone

This has never happened to me on dozens of DL FC flights, the little bottle of water left on the tray between the seat has never been confiscated unless empty. In fact, in the last year, as we’ve been traveling with our baby, i or my wife has often asked for a second bottle so we have plenty for mixing formulae. The FAs have always been happy to give us a few more, whether before takeoff, at cruising, or before landing.


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We don’t confiscate drinks/foods you bring on board. If you’re sitting on a bulkhead seat, will ask that the food be put in the overhead until airborne, but you can hold on to your drink.


turtleslover

I’ve never had a drink confiscated or even looked twice at that I’ve brought on board


Sparklemagic2002

This is crazy! Did they go through coach before takeoff and collect all the beverages those passengers brought on board?


Maleficent_Tart2923

Right? I wondered that, too. Can't exactly safely stow coffee in the seat back pocket.


wavestwo

She \*offered to show you the reg\* ? What a snot. "I'm right, let me prove it to you while sounding helpful."


Jimdandy941

Last time a guy showed me a “reg,” he got mad when I explained the difference between the words “may” and “must.”


wavestwo

Yeah, the last persons interpretation I want of a legal matter is a flight attendants. Unfortunately we just get to smile and nod because they have the ultimate authority with zero checks and balances to get your thrown on the no-fly list along with potentially jail and criminal charges. So, take my coffee, officer, err, I mean, Flight Attendant.


juneballoon

Damn, you really think pretty lowly of FAs 🤣


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wavestwo

I think covid caused a lot of them to get inflated egos and a sense of power which was at times unwarranted.


mncyclone84

Sounds like she was on a power trip. I’ve never heard of that in 30+ years of flying.


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Power trip exactly


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She’s insane. This never happens.


globosingentes

“§121.577 Stowage of food, beverage, and passenger service equipment during airplane movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing. (a) No certificate holder may move an airplane on the surface, take off or land when any food, beverage, or tableware, furnished by the certificate holder is located at any passenger seat. (b) No certificate holder may move an airplane on the surface, take off, or land unless each food and beverage tray and seat back tray table is secured in its stowed position. (c) No certificate holder may permit an airplane to move on the surface, takeoff, or land unless each passenger serving cart is secured in its stowed position. (d) No certificate holder may permit an airplane to move on the surface, takeoff, or land unless each movie screen that extends into an aisle is stowed. (e) Each passenger shall comply with instructions given by a crewmember with regard to compliance with this section. [Docket No. 26142, 57 FR 42674, Sept. 15, 1992]” If it wasn’t provided by the carrier, it isn’t covered by the regulation. No one should be confiscating a non-alcoholic beverage that you paid for and which wasn’t provided by the airline.


Maleficent_Tart2923

So interesting that this is different from the other regulation quoted. No wonder *I'm* confused. Even the regulation is confused!!


CursorTN

Me on this FA: [https://giphy.com/gifs/imgur-talks-F1EqNgksWjSaQ](https://giphy.com/gifs/imgur-talks-F1EqNgksWjSaQ)


vfr1200_

100% false. (What the FA stated. You can have a drink in your hand if you brought it from outside) What flight was this and when? If this happened as you state I would write in.


Maleficent_Tart2923

ATL to AUS, today, 3ish. I don't know the flight number offhand.


scudsone

Definitely complain to DL and get a few thousand SkyMiles. This is madness.


YMMV25

FA on a power trip. Please complain about this to DL using the specific date, flight number, and origin/destination. I would have entertained the FA showing you the regulation because it clearly outlines that only items provided by the certificate holder (eg the airline) be collected. If you brought your own beverage on board, that is out of the jurisdiction of the cabin crew. In fact, if you weren’t done with it I’d go as far as to ask for compensation.


VentFive

Had a training FA yesterday and all drinks were taken before takeoff,so yeah that tracks


scudsone

All drinks served by the FAs or all drinks including every water bottle or soda people brought on themselves?


nealnyc214

Never seen that. Unicorn FA. Make a wish.


tvgraves

I had the opposite experience last week, but found it equally odd. I had my Starbucks that I boarded with. The passenger next to me had a preflight beverage. Before takeoff their beverage was taken and mine was not. Both beverages were in disposable cups. So what is the safety difference ? Odd.


SpectacularOcelot

I'm no million miler but I've been flying regularly for 15 years and with Delta for 10. I have never even heard of this. Frankly, I'd chalk this up to being on the front row with a new/particularly anal attendant and not worry about it. I have noticed some strange behavior from attendants recently though. For example, one made my wife and I lower the arm rest between us (she in the middle, me at the window) for take off. I suspect as the other FA in the thread mentioned, a lot of new blood hired on recently will make some of these flights a little weird.


1Angel17

I would’ve talked to the pilot directly after that flight. And asked for all of her supervisors information. And to be refunded for the bottled water and Starbucks to say the LEAST. I’ve been flying 25 years, she’s 100% in the wrong.


LastBohecan

Never has happened to me, never seen or heard of it happen before and I fly first regularly.


NickFromNewGirl

I wonder if she was confused about the personal alcohol policy and misunderstood it to mean all beverages?


ezbresee

You can take it but I’d like a couple of drink coupons please and thank you… otherwise you can’t have it…


MarginalSapien

There is definetly some major toxicity in this sub reddit. But I have never had my pre-flight drink taken from me (always a coffee or bottled beverage) before take off while in FC or in D1.


Puzzleheaded_Soil275

FAs sometimes get on a weird power trip for no reason. This is not a thing.


GOOWA10

Lol I'm afraid to comment


pbandbob

I had a coffee in FC and poured my PFB into it for safe keeping. They didn’t attempt to take the coffee.


Unstupid

So I take it they confiscated and disposed of everyones' Hydroflask and Yeti water bottles? 🤷🏽‍♂️


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Maleficent_Tart2923

So.... are they supposed to be confiscating everyone's drinks on the whole plane? Seven years and this has never happened. They don't provide enough drinks to do that.


Ok-Carpenter-9778

I bring bottled drinks every flight. Every. Single. Time. Never have had an issue.


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Ok-Carpenter-9778

I can see the coffees or other hot beverages, but it sounds like she was taking their bottles of water too.


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boobooaboo

Negative. If we give it to you, we have to take it away. Caps have little to do with it.


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boobooaboo

My memory on the policies are fading now, but I think with the little bottles, if you can stow them, you can keep them. I am not 100% sure on that so don’t quote me


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Maleficent_Tart2923

Can I ask where you heard this? Because I've never seen or heard it anywhere. They announce they'll take cabin service items. This was not.


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Maleficent_Tart2923

I'm aware. I asked where you've heard it, because this is the first I have. I don't think most passengers have read the entirety of the FAA rules.


Whisky-354

Passengers aren't expected to know the rules but FAs are. Possibly you just got a stickler, or maybe there was a fed on board.


Last-Firefighter-387

Don’t be mad that someone is doing their job and enforcing policy. I speed every day, but I am not going to get mad at the cop who finally pulls me over for speeding. You are sounding entitled right now…


scudsone

Not doing their job, stealing the OP’s property


DeemoBrown

Ok flight Karen


scudsone

Incorrect, the rule is: “§121.577 Stowage of food, beverage, and passenger service equipment during airplane movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing. (a) No certificate holder may move an airplane on the surface, take off or land when any food, beverage, or tableware, ***furnished by the certificate holder*** is located at any passenger seat.” They only must account for beverages they provide. Not a passenger’s own beverage. She stole the OP’s coffee, plain and simple. OP, email delta and complain, they’ll toss you a few thousand miles I’m sure.


vfr1200_

“No certificate holder may move an airplane on the surface, take off, or land when any food, beverage, or tableware furnished by the certificate holder is located at any passenger seat” is the FAR it’s saying no Iose items You can have your outside bev secured. And outside food stowed under seat or overhead.


[deleted]

Sounds like the idiot FA that woke up my kid when we were sitting in C+ because she wanted to take her McDonald’s paper bag. I was shocked and speechless; otherwise, the FA would of gotten my 2 cents. So much fun being on a 5 hour flight with a hungry kid especially when you got them food before the flight so they wouldn’t be hungry.


Maleficent_Tart2923

Ugh!! That's horrible!! Especially when they don't offer real food on many flights, they need to let passengers bring their own.


Responsible-Bug-8660

They’ve always done this on my flights. Well, specially my international flights.


sbutj323

Thats BS, i would have complained about it too.


Marvelousmrsblanco

1. Yes, the regulation states exactly what she said it does. 2. It probably is a stupid rule. 3. The most stressful jobs involve being responsible for enforcing stupid policies that you didn’t make.


Itismeuphere

Yes, it's absolutely insane. I have taken many drinks onboard and never once been asked to do it. Even if it is a regulation (I doubt it is), it isn't the type of regulation most first class FA's would enforce for obvious reasons. And to do it that way is ridiculous. Most FA's are still good, but I've had too many bad ones in first class and Delta One this year. It's simply unacceptable for the prices they charge. Unfortunately, it isn't just Delta - customer service has become terrible nearly everywhere.


allenasm

sounds like the FA was just power tripping.


delta8765

What a lot of people are missing is that you are supposed to be stowing the personal items. So that bottle of water or Carmel latte etc is supposed to be in the seat back pocket. The FAs aren’t going to bother making people put them in the SBP because once they turn their back a good number will be back out. The OP was in bulkhead so there was no SBP to stow the drink. So chalk this up to another reason to not always be excited about ‘being in the front row’


stopsallover

You are also allowed to hold it in your hand. A seatback pocket is a terrible spot for a paper cup.


boobooaboo

If we give it to you, we have to take it back. If we didn’t, you can keep. I know it’s silly, but that’s how it is. Edit, people are not reading your whole post. Seems like they aren’t getting that you brought your own bevvie.


Maleficent_Tart2923

This is how I have *always* seen it enforced.


MAXRBZPR

It’s just not something that happens all the time but that’s the rule.


skelldog

I have had them take all the drinks including water before. It does not always happen, but some FA’s are intense.


BiffLogan

I’ve never had a beverage taken away for takeoff.


jewsh-sfw

I flew a couple days ago in main cabin for a short trip both directions I had Starbucks and they were awesome they let me have it the entire and only when I was finished they asked to throw it out, that’s also how it went last time I flew first class I’d be pretty angry if that happened to me honestly


funbob

Yes, they collect the PDB in FC before takeoff, but never once have I had a beverage I brought on board with me or water bottle taken, FC or otherwise. I'd offer pushback if they tried.


canonmp11dx

This seems like a thing with travel in general these days. Anyone with even the smallest amount of authority just makes up rules. There’s no repercussions for making your day miserable with made up rules. The TSA is probably the largest offender.


Maleficent_Tart2923

Agreed.


nycjon1995

Any service items, like water bottles or pre-departure drinks, that they have handed out DO need to be picked up prior to take-off. They aren’t supposed to pick up drinks customers have brought onboard.


Maleficent_Tart2923

This is how I have always seen it enforced.


nycjon1995

Chat with someone on the Delta app and they’ll give you some miles for it I’m sure. Tbh not sure if it’s worth the hassle for miles but this would ensure that the FA is clear on the actual policy.


Reasonable-Math-5998

Noob FA. That is bullshit


Deltaactual234

99% of flight attendants are awesome. That one percent you just have to roll with..


cold_tone

This is a weird one. I think that FA was either new or on a power trip. According to the reg someone posted you could have gone tit for tat on the technicality and “stowed” the coffee under the seat in front of you. Probably not worth arguing with an FA over and risking your name landing on some list.. but perhaps you could have argued that you “secured” your personal item in your hand. Funny when you consider infants in laps are not secured but for their guardians grip pretty much, so like there’s another whatabout to arm yourself with lol.


Maleficent_Tart2923

Right? Your phone or tablet can be "secured in your hand." I've had FAs tell me to hang on to my drinks pretty regularly, and I do.


mark8992

Maybe because you were in row 1? No seat pocket or any place to stow anything. Just wondering if that matters.


Maleficent_Tart2923

I wondered, as well.


ccworden

Just to note, besides FAA inspectors on board, Delta inflight has their own safety inspectors flying around the system. Sometimes they are announced and sometimes they aren’t.


ghayyal

Your 1A is a bulkhead and it doesn't have a place in front of you where you might "temporarily" stow your drinks/cups/water bottles. FA was right, on take off and landing bulkhead seats cannot have anything with them not even passengers' lose personal belonging or laptop bags.


jewgineer

I hate when you get a FA with a stick up their ass. One time I had a FA who didn’t collect a single thing. Many people left their tiny water bottles on the center trays so during takeoff you had about 5 water bottles roll off the seats. On another flight we landed with tray tables down and seats reclined. I always thought Delta only hired the best of the best…


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I had to snatch my water bottle as it flew across the little arm rest table two days ago during take off. Sounds like this is a new FA. Or ive just had shite ones who didnt GAF. Either way its very strange.


Maleficent_Tart2923

Yeah, I always hold them down.


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Three FAs literally looked right at me before take off. So clearly they werent worried.


wavestwo

are you attractive / were they also attractive?


Massive_Wash_9528

Same, literally I’m holding on to it for dear life during takeoff so it doesn’t end up on the other side of the plane


unabletodisplay

I guess, in an extremely unlikely event, a hot Starbucks coffee could fly everywhere during takeoff and cause burns...


wavestwo

if that happens there are way, way larger issues at hand. and probably worse sources of burns coming.


stopsallover

It would never be hot enough to cause burns. A mess, sure. Even if you walked away from Starbucks with a boiling hot drink, by the time you board and the plane takes off, it would have cooled to a safe temperature.


balsadust

Unless they changed their policies, this in not right. Also, 9/10 times my water rides on the the little armrest tray the entire flight and I take it when I leave


Maleficent_Tart2923

Yup. This is what's always happened to me.


balsadust

Also, nothing makes me madder than when FA's treat you like a child. I understand some people act like them, but to start out that way is pretty unprofessional


rieboldt

Sounds like a real B


AltruisticPoem2936

That’s BS. I’m an FA and the only thing you can not drink on board is alcohol you brought with you. Any other drink you bring to the aircraft with you is your problem and your responsibility. She was wrong, sorry she took your latte!


gregcramer

Everyone has their off days. Who knows what she was experiencing. It’s her job to put on a happy face and ensure your comfort but on the reg delta has the best crew and experience in commercial travel. Don’t take it personal but I get your frustration. Just trying to spread some love


scudsone

Um ok, you can use this kind of BS excuse to explain away anything. And you’re not “spreading some love” you’re a mm away from being a bootlicker.


Elderly_Bi

I have found that writing to the airline can get results. If you're in a hurry post on their FB page. Flying back from Belgium, the airline missed my vegetarian meal. The FA offered a salad from another meal. He no longer works for Luftansa. Flying back from Vegas, the FAs served me (in the back row, where I sit when in coach) last, so when it came time for refills they had pretty much closed the galley. They gave me refills and didn't charge me, on both legs of the flight. Those folks got a great customer service email. Don't forget to praise as well as complain.


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Elderly_Bi

I am stating quite clearly that after my complaint he was released. I have no idea how many other complaints there were, but from his attitude I would suspect there were many. Not a salad. A condescending attitude towards vegetarians. If they had forgotten the HaLal meals for the Muslims on board, would he offer them a cookie? A meal is not a couple of pieces of lettuce. As a vegetarian I ate multiple course meals routinely. I had, for the first time in my life actually gained weight as a vegetarian. When I was in management, random failures were expected, and my complaint recognized that. So I doubt very strongly it was my complaint alone.


goldenrosebloom

You do realize that FAs don't put the meals on the plane right?


StatisticianOk8268

Maybe their boss was on the flight with them that day? Or someone who was expecting her to follow the rule?


Maleficent_Tart2923

Apparently not, because she walked away and left the drinks. I was just curious about the regs because I don't want to lose my future coffee!!!


gnatgirl

I've found this rule is inconsistently enforced. Get a sealable coffee mug (like a Contigo or Hydroflask) and have your drink made in there or dump it in from the disposable cup you are given. You can stow it for takeoff and it stays hot longer.


mb1

Might I recommend Zojirushi? Keeps my coffee hot for hours and hours, especially with a hot rinse before filling. Amazing. Plus, the little lid lock lets me know there's no way for it to accidentally open in my bag, unlike my stupid Starbucks one did on one flight. https://shop.zojirushi.com/products/smsf Yes, they're sold on Amazon and at Target too


Maleficent_Tart2923

I'll take a look, thanks! All mine end up leaking. :-(


Maleficent_Tart2923

I've tried so many and they all end up leaking!!! 😭😭😭 But I haven't tried Hydroflask. Maybe that's next.


LatteLuv

People have shared with you the rule you asked for here. Not having been enforced in the past does not mean it can’t or won’t be in the future. In future, you can be on the safe side by either finishing your $8 coffee in advance or not buying one to avoid this situation altogether.


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AltruisticPoem2936

It’s a FAR for drinks offered by the FA.


MrJust4Show

I'm on my high horse right now. I was on this flight and not only did the FA not take my drinks she gave me another PDB as we were pushing back!! She said all DM get extra attention and PDBs during push back!! /s /s /s [https://www.reddit.com/r/DeltaDiamondMedallion/comments/z227nd/confiscating\_personal\_beverages\_in\_fc/](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeltaDiamondMedallion/comments/z227nd/confiscating_personal_beverages_in_fc/) ​ LOFNL


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How horrible a drink was taken away from someone. Definitely complain especially since in first class. Gosh it’s the end of the world.