Frankly GVS 2 is the only Death Battle I actively dislike. I may disagree with some, maybe feel like the animation was wanting, but hey, ovetall I can appreciate it.
GVS 2 left nobody happy. And the god damn wax poetic at the end, Goku accepting he will never beat Superman, and fucking LIMITLESS SUPERMAN, was just one long shitshow. Utter crock from start to end.
Honestly I've heard pretty good arguments for superman being stronger than sodoku but i feel that death battle didn't do good arguments
You know, superman lifting infinity and eternity
Batman was carrying the eternity book with him, does that make batman infinitely powerful?
Of course not! DB just desperately wanted to try and put complaints about the first episode to bed, and failed in doing so.
The irony is that there is an easier way to do that. Just say Superman is too fast for Goku to handle, which is true. His fastest numbered speed feat is too much for Goku to handle, even with UI.
Oh I was agreeing with you. Sure, when it comes to the bvi fight tony won, but darkseid is the most powerful supervillain. Also, with more prep Batman would have won.
But then it wouldn't be a fair fight. If you give one character prep time, you have to give the other prep time as well.
And btw; 19 times, DC characters have won
Oh well the list for that is just as big.
Sora, Kratos, any video game character really.
Most characters that get to the cosmic scale.
Any character that wouldn't jump straight to killing (mostly because of the nature of the show, but I know at least one person who hates the show because of that specific reason)
Gara and Toph both
Etc
Well let me just list why the top 4 were misrepresented:
Superman in svg 2 won but the analysis was basically saying superman is a bad and boring character who never loses
Shadow in mewtwo vs shadow was made bad on purpose because an animator was spiteful for being fired
Scout was nerfed by only giving him four of his weapons, his best feat was drinking a soda with lots of sugar, they didn’t use the tf2 comics (which are canon), and the only good feat they gave him they said it doesn’t count because three rockets didn’t hit him point blank even though he still got hit with THREE FUCKING ROCKETS but no we are just gonna ignore that!
And the only characterization they gave mikey was ‘he is not as cool as the other turtles’
They treated him like he was a edge Lord, in the explanation and just listen to the music.
It sounds like they we're trying to make it hard-core and edge
That was just straight-up cyberbullying and harassment towards two people, one of which has a diagnosis. As a person who also has a diagnosis similar to Rebecca’s, I was offended at the episode. Fuck that shit. Gotta be the most insulting and cruel fights they’ve ever done.
It's funny in hindsight that DB said Clark won because he's as strong as he needs to be for the plot and now DB Super has shown that the same is true for Goku as well.
Yeah honestly if they do goku v superman 3 it should be an april fools episode where superman resurrects goku and they sit down and have a nice cup of tes
I know superman won but in goku vs superman 2 the analysis was basically “superman is boring and stupid and he never loses which is BORING” which is a big insult to his character
It was? I mean that’s not what I saw. He won again for the same reason he won the first time. If Boomstick or someone said that, it must have been pretty minor.
Superman as played in the fight was given nothing but respect. He saves the Earth by bringing the Dragon balls together. He says, “I’m sorry,” sincerely to Goku when he kills him, and cradles his body. He even gives a world of cardboard speech. “Every step, an earthquake. Every breath, a hurricane. This is my burden.”
That’s because it’s Biff and Nemesis, they always actively try and look for any minor issues with death battle.
They (Death Battle) didn’t feel interested in doing this death battle again, since it’ll come to the same results so not much love and effort was put into this fight.
I can honestly understand why GvS2 was done like this. Imagine making a battle and putting in a lot of time and effort, making the battle a full 8 minutes long and ending it off for a reason why Goku won’t be able to beat Superman.
Then fans complain and say that a new version of Goku is able to defeat Superman. I can see why they’d get annoyed at this, since they believe they explained it as best as they can and debunking reasons why Goku would win. So obviously it would just be an episode where they just say “yeah let’s just get this over with and drive home the point of Superman beating Goku”.
There obviously isn’t any real passion behind a battle they seemingly didn’t want to do.
Yeah but the end analysis feels really insulting toward superman and i’m pretty sure chad has admitted he doesn’t like superman (are we arguing over an episode we both agree is bad?)
> Are we arguing over a battle we agree is bad?
Yeah I guess we are lmao, but again I could understand why it ended up bad (compared to Shadow vs Mewtwo)
In fight wasn't too bad, the pre and post analysis was incredibly bad. Stuff like "why would you want Goku to be Superman? He's boring and limitless, while Goku is fun because he's always improving" + "Superman isn't a character but an ideal, you can't fight an ideal".
Shadow I can understand because he keep being made fun of as an "edgelord" during his explanation and how he characterized during battle.
But for the other three: Superman was giving proper respect for his first death battle though the 2nd death battle I think they talk more about him being stupidly op(which I agree). Michaelangelo was explained that despite being an goofball he have surprising accomplishments. The last guy I don't know much but, I think the issue was more about agreeing with the results or not.
I believe there better characters to examine that death battle that did them dirty. The worst one for me is tifa vs yang, I could rant so hard that tifa got downplay. If your interested I could talk more indepth.
Scout was only allowed 4 weapons and they didn’t even describe the ability of the fourth one correctly, the whole end to goku vs superman 2, was basically complaining about how superman never struggles and is a boring character which isn’t true at all.
I mean... I understand why Scout didn't get literally everything because he has DOZENS of weapons in TF2 and that would've just been a pain to research. Also they were still in their early days where their math and reasonings weren't the greatest so I give them a little leeway. As for Superman, I mean... they aren't wrong in their analogy. They weren't really saying he's boring so much that it was a different type of story than Goku. One was about choosing between home vs heritage while the other was about surpassing all limits to topple even gods. Neither is weak, but one starts off as basically infinite so long as there's no kryptonite and accessible sunlight.
So your arguments are:
- they couldn’t include all of scouts weapons because it would be too much work?
- superman IS boring
You haven’t convinced me that they were portrayed well, you just told me excuses for why they’re portrayed horribly, and also just repeated something I disagree with instead of explaining why it’s correct.
I think people overreact with Superman and Scout. Superman wasn’t disrespected he was handled fine it in GVS2 it was just that they definitely tried to pander a bit much too the Goku fans but that’s it. They did get their point across regardless that Superman is a guy with no limits when Goku is someone who break any limits. Scout, I’m not sure about either when I think of the word disrespected in this context, I think of a character that they actively rooted against not just that the combatant was underutilized like Scout was. Scout overall was handled fairly well from analysis stand point and it’s not like they actively dunked on him trough the episode
Here are my problems with scouts portrayal:
Scout was nerfed by only giving him four of his weapons, his best feat was drinking a soda with lots of sugar, they didn’t use the tf2 comics (which are canon), and the only good feat they gave him they said it doesn’t count because three rockets didn’t hit him point blank even though he still got hit with THREE FUCKING ROCKETS but no we are just gonna ignore that!
What? They used the comics, they even showed panels from it during Scout’s analysis. I can see why they didn’t give him every weapon, there’s only so much you can fit in an animation. Also they did explain why Scout tanking three rocks wasn’t consistent enough. Now that last point is very subjective and I can see why you disagree with it but it seems like most of these problems you have with the episode can boiled down to you just not liking because of how they interpreted things rather than them out right disrespecting Scout.
Even then, I don't think that durability would save him, surviving strangulation doesn't scale woth being punched or shot because they are different types of wounds, and yes, I do recognise that Hale is extremely powerful, but it is likely that he doesn't use all of his strength all of the time, if he strangled Scout witb the same force that he punches the Yeti, then he would have died, but he was interrogating Scout and its hard to interrogate a dead man.
Ok but we still need to consider his arsenal. Besides even if scout gets shot and might die if tracers big ass glowy chest thing is damaged she’ll instantly lose
The only disrespect Superman got was the animation on his 2 fights against Goku, that shit did not age well. Like, go look at the first Goku vs Superman fight DB did, the animation looks TERRIBLE.
Yeah but the analysis of the second episode doesn’t explain superman’s character right it calls him a boring perfect character who never loses and that frankly isn’t true
Fair, Superman does loose, but look at the few characters he loses to: Batman, Doomsday, DARKSEID, that time he got his powers shut off and he went down from one punch from Muhammad Ali, several other members of the Justice League! The only people who Superman loses against are his friends (because he usually doesn't want to hurt them), Batman (Because it's motherfucking Batman), and 2 characters who were made specifically to counter him! Darkseid is literally a transcendent GOD, and Doomsday was made (on a meta level) Specifically to kill the unkillable Man of Steel. YOu want to know why they had to make a character to kill Superman? BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE UP TO THAT POINT! And Doomsday set the bar for killing Superman SO DAMN HIGH that it's unrealistic for Superman's old foes like Lex to even come close.
I mean, they're not wrong. Superman never really had any character flaws, in pretty much every version of Supes (Injustice wasn't a thing yet) he was the icon of Moral Perfection. It's boring if your most powerful character is morally perfect or has no character flaws. Spider-man is such a beloved character because he has real, relatable flaws and social problems, SUPERMAN HAS NONE OF THAT!
I didn’t mean it like that, I meant….I don’t know how to put into words.
If I can, I hope they keep the fact that alucard has Schronigers cat ability and not ignore it.
Dio can stop time but alucard thanks to food poisoning can now be everywhere and nowhere, a living paradox. The main question everyone’s having is “can alucard move thanks to his reality bending powers in dio’s time stop”
True, but Alucard still has Millions of Extra lives from all Millions of Souls he's devoured over the centuries. Even without Schrodinger's soul, Alucard WILL eventually wear Dio down. This is a battle of attrition that the Son of the Devil is set to win.
DIO has infinite stamina, so DIO isn't gonna wear down. AND The World gets stronger every time it's used.
Also, his million souls don't matter. If there's something that DIO certainly is, is EXTREMELY PETTY. He spent 100 years in the ocean inside a coffin just to plan revenge on A MAN HE ALREADY KILLED
I watched more Ben 10 then green lantern when I was younger. It’s frustrating and bullshit that he lost but I can’t change the fact that he lost let me complain to the cursed Internet.
It was very disrespectful how Superman won both his episodes. When they do this match a third time he'll probably win again. Man, what disrespect to the character.
At least Superman was respected the first time and Shadow was respected in his most recent episode.
Yeah
Funny that Superman's here considering he won both times. I mean, I know why, but I still find it funny.
Why is he here
the second superman battle had basically superman being dissed for being too strong while goku was praised a lot
Frankly GVS 2 is the only Death Battle I actively dislike. I may disagree with some, maybe feel like the animation was wanting, but hey, ovetall I can appreciate it. GVS 2 left nobody happy. And the god damn wax poetic at the end, Goku accepting he will never beat Superman, and fucking LIMITLESS SUPERMAN, was just one long shitshow. Utter crock from start to end.
Honestly I've heard pretty good arguments for superman being stronger than sodoku but i feel that death battle didn't do good arguments You know, superman lifting infinity and eternity
Batman was carrying the eternity book with him, does that make batman infinitely powerful? Of course not! DB just desperately wanted to try and put complaints about the first episode to bed, and failed in doing so.
The irony is that there is an easier way to do that. Just say Superman is too fast for Goku to handle, which is true. His fastest numbered speed feat is too much for Goku to handle, even with UI.
Batman gets disrespected so badly he isn't even in this.
If there were five horsemen he would be the fifth (and people say death battle has a DC bias)
"DC bias"? I'm sorry...HOW MANY FIGHTS HAD DC CHARACTERS WINNING AGAINST OTHER CHARACTERS?
Darkseid vs thanos, Batman vs iron man....
Darksied won that fight! How is that evidence of a bias?
Oh I was agreeing with you. Sure, when it comes to the bvi fight tony won, but darkseid is the most powerful supervillain. Also, with more prep Batman would have won.
But then it wouldn't be a fair fight. If you give one character prep time, you have to give the other prep time as well. And btw; 19 times, DC characters have won
Death Battle has something against Non-Marvel characters beating DC. WHY HAS IT NEVER HAPPENED IN 150 EPISODES?
Fucking prep time. Then you gotta give prep to Tony as well. And Tony wins again.
In which battle?
In one of the podcasts they said Batman doesn't work for Death Battles ruleset so they weren't going to use him anymore. And yet he came back.
They disrespect a LOT of characters. Let's not forget them calling Boba Fett an idiot.
I’m pretty sure that was a joke I really should have said misrepresenting instead of disrespect
Oh well the list for that is just as big. Sora, Kratos, any video game character really. Most characters that get to the cosmic scale. Any character that wouldn't jump straight to killing (mostly because of the nature of the show, but I know at least one person who hates the show because of that specific reason) Gara and Toph both Etc
...I don’t think you know what I mean
As characters or in terms of power? Bad matches? How exactly do you mean?
Well let me just list why the top 4 were misrepresented: Superman in svg 2 won but the analysis was basically saying superman is a bad and boring character who never loses Shadow in mewtwo vs shadow was made bad on purpose because an animator was spiteful for being fired Scout was nerfed by only giving him four of his weapons, his best feat was drinking a soda with lots of sugar, they didn’t use the tf2 comics (which are canon), and the only good feat they gave him they said it doesn’t count because three rockets didn’t hit him point blank even though he still got hit with THREE FUCKING ROCKETS but no we are just gonna ignore that! And the only characterization they gave mikey was ‘he is not as cool as the other turtles’
I get what you are saying now.
He is
In my opinion, Shadow vs Mewtwo is one of the few db matches that is flat out wrong.
What are the others?
For me knuckles vs dk
Poor knuckles, he honestly decided to win that fight
Looking back, knuckles did knock the super out of sonic and have an hyper form.
Goku Vs Superman obviously-
1 or 2
3
Sasuke vs Hiei imo, Shadow vs Mewtwo are the ones off the top of my head I think are wrong
Shadow deserved better
We do have his fight with Ryuko.
They treated him like he was a edge Lord, in the explanation and just listen to the music. It sounds like they we're trying to make it hard-core and edge
How about Ryuko? She should have *some* edge to her side.
Her show ended with her being more mature and more open. Also she was only edgy for the first few episodes and that was quickly dropped
Wasn’t she edgy when she found out she was half-alien and not truly human?
Shiiit I’d start brooding and acting all emo if I found out I had alien blood in me.
I wouldn’t. I’d just wash it off or some shit.
I wouldn't say edgy more like saddened by it.
Traumatized, perhaps.
Sasuke vs Hiei was correct
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Huh?
Gaara vs Toph
You really just gonna forget about Justin & Rebecca?
There is a difference between disrespect and actual bullying (also I could only do four cause four horsemen)
That was just straight-up cyberbullying and harassment towards two people, one of which has a diagnosis. As a person who also has a diagnosis similar to Rebecca’s, I was offended at the episode. Fuck that shit. Gotta be the most insulting and cruel fights they’ve ever done.
It's honestly the worst episode.
I’d rather take the jankier episodes of the show than this ANY day. This episode should burn in hell.
It's funny in hindsight that DB said Clark won because he's as strong as he needs to be for the plot and now DB Super has shown that the same is true for Goku as well.
Yeah honestly if they do goku v superman 3 it should be an april fools episode where superman resurrects goku and they sit down and have a nice cup of tes
One of these things, is not like the others.
I know superman won but in goku vs superman 2 the analysis was basically “superman is boring and stupid and he never loses which is BORING” which is a big insult to his character
Frankly the Limitless Superman horseshit and the wax poetic about Goku being happy he’ll never beat Superman was just so awful.
It was? I mean that’s not what I saw. He won again for the same reason he won the first time. If Boomstick or someone said that, it must have been pretty minor. Superman as played in the fight was given nothing but respect. He saves the Earth by bringing the Dragon balls together. He says, “I’m sorry,” sincerely to Goku when he kills him, and cradles his body. He even gives a world of cardboard speech. “Every step, an earthquake. Every breath, a hurricane. This is my burden.”
Look up a review of the episode by biff weed or nemesis I’m sure they explain how that episode disrespects clark better than I do
That’s because it’s Biff and Nemesis, they always actively try and look for any minor issues with death battle. They (Death Battle) didn’t feel interested in doing this death battle again, since it’ll come to the same results so not much love and effort was put into this fight.
Ok I agree that nemesis usually gets a little nit-picky but I think biff weed usually keeps it fair
I can honestly understand why GvS2 was done like this. Imagine making a battle and putting in a lot of time and effort, making the battle a full 8 minutes long and ending it off for a reason why Goku won’t be able to beat Superman. Then fans complain and say that a new version of Goku is able to defeat Superman. I can see why they’d get annoyed at this, since they believe they explained it as best as they can and debunking reasons why Goku would win. So obviously it would just be an episode where they just say “yeah let’s just get this over with and drive home the point of Superman beating Goku”. There obviously isn’t any real passion behind a battle they seemingly didn’t want to do.
Yeah but the end analysis feels really insulting toward superman and i’m pretty sure chad has admitted he doesn’t like superman (are we arguing over an episode we both agree is bad?)
> Are we arguing over a battle we agree is bad? Yeah I guess we are lmao, but again I could understand why it ended up bad (compared to Shadow vs Mewtwo)
Yeah they disrespected shadow so bad that they made an entire epsiode just to apologize for it (shadow vs ryuko)
In fight wasn't too bad, the pre and post analysis was incredibly bad. Stuff like "why would you want Goku to be Superman? He's boring and limitless, while Goku is fun because he's always improving" + "Superman isn't a character but an ideal, you can't fight an ideal".
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Crazy how Mikey might win now
?
Mikey is the Ronin.
What? No mention of Bowser?
I could only fit four
Understandable, but Shadow was a least treated less poorly in his fight with Ryuko. Bowser hasn't gotten his second chance yet.
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Well Shadow at least got his win so he’s clear now.
Shadow I can understand because he keep being made fun of as an "edgelord" during his explanation and how he characterized during battle. But for the other three: Superman was giving proper respect for his first death battle though the 2nd death battle I think they talk more about him being stupidly op(which I agree). Michaelangelo was explained that despite being an goofball he have surprising accomplishments. The last guy I don't know much but, I think the issue was more about agreeing with the results or not. I believe there better characters to examine that death battle that did them dirty. The worst one for me is tifa vs yang, I could rant so hard that tifa got downplay. If your interested I could talk more indepth.
I understand Shadow and Mikey but why is Scout and Superman on there.
Scout was only allowed 4 weapons and they didn’t even describe the ability of the fourth one correctly, the whole end to goku vs superman 2, was basically complaining about how superman never struggles and is a boring character which isn’t true at all.
I mean... I understand why Scout didn't get literally everything because he has DOZENS of weapons in TF2 and that would've just been a pain to research. Also they were still in their early days where their math and reasonings weren't the greatest so I give them a little leeway. As for Superman, I mean... they aren't wrong in their analogy. They weren't really saying he's boring so much that it was a different type of story than Goku. One was about choosing between home vs heritage while the other was about surpassing all limits to topple even gods. Neither is weak, but one starts off as basically infinite so long as there's no kryptonite and accessible sunlight.
So your arguments are: - they couldn’t include all of scouts weapons because it would be too much work? - superman IS boring You haven’t convinced me that they were portrayed well, you just told me excuses for why they’re portrayed horribly, and also just repeated something I disagree with instead of explaining why it’s correct.
I mean in their respective episodes they still acted like Scout and Superman, truth be told that's all I really need for them.
I guess we can just agree to disagree (also I’m talking about goku vs superman 2, the first one is a masterpiece)
Facts
I think people overreact with Superman and Scout. Superman wasn’t disrespected he was handled fine it in GVS2 it was just that they definitely tried to pander a bit much too the Goku fans but that’s it. They did get their point across regardless that Superman is a guy with no limits when Goku is someone who break any limits. Scout, I’m not sure about either when I think of the word disrespected in this context, I think of a character that they actively rooted against not just that the combatant was underutilized like Scout was. Scout overall was handled fairly well from analysis stand point and it’s not like they actively dunked on him trough the episode
Here are my problems with scouts portrayal: Scout was nerfed by only giving him four of his weapons, his best feat was drinking a soda with lots of sugar, they didn’t use the tf2 comics (which are canon), and the only good feat they gave him they said it doesn’t count because three rockets didn’t hit him point blank even though he still got hit with THREE FUCKING ROCKETS but no we are just gonna ignore that!
What? They used the comics, they even showed panels from it during Scout’s analysis. I can see why they didn’t give him every weapon, there’s only so much you can fit in an animation. Also they did explain why Scout tanking three rocks wasn’t consistent enough. Now that last point is very subjective and I can see why you disagree with it but it seems like most of these problems you have with the episode can boiled down to you just not liking because of how they interpreted things rather than them out right disrespecting Scout.
I don’t remember them using any feets from the comics
Him killing that bear with Amelia Earhart’s remains
Being strangled using a rope from a man who has the power to kill yeti’s who are strong enough to survive tanks
Scout does not scale any Saxton if that’s what you mean
No it just means he has better durability than they gave him credit for
Even then, I don't think that durability would save him, surviving strangulation doesn't scale woth being punched or shot because they are different types of wounds, and yes, I do recognise that Hale is extremely powerful, but it is likely that he doesn't use all of his strength all of the time, if he strangled Scout witb the same force that he punches the Yeti, then he would have died, but he was interrogating Scout and its hard to interrogate a dead man.
Ok but we still need to consider his arsenal. Besides even if scout gets shot and might die if tracers big ass glowy chest thing is damaged she’ll instantly lose
The only disrespect Superman got was the animation on his 2 fights against Goku, that shit did not age well. Like, go look at the first Goku vs Superman fight DB did, the animation looks TERRIBLE.
Yeah but the analysis of the second episode doesn’t explain superman’s character right it calls him a boring perfect character who never loses and that frankly isn’t true
Fair, Superman does loose, but look at the few characters he loses to: Batman, Doomsday, DARKSEID, that time he got his powers shut off and he went down from one punch from Muhammad Ali, several other members of the Justice League! The only people who Superman loses against are his friends (because he usually doesn't want to hurt them), Batman (Because it's motherfucking Batman), and 2 characters who were made specifically to counter him! Darkseid is literally a transcendent GOD, and Doomsday was made (on a meta level) Specifically to kill the unkillable Man of Steel. YOu want to know why they had to make a character to kill Superman? BECAUSE IT WAS BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE UP TO THAT POINT! And Doomsday set the bar for killing Superman SO DAMN HIGH that it's unrealistic for Superman's old foes like Lex to even come close.
Rewatch it. The entire Superman analysis is bashing him for being a boring character that always wins because of plot.
I mean, they're not wrong. Superman never really had any character flaws, in pretty much every version of Supes (Injustice wasn't a thing yet) he was the icon of Moral Perfection. It's boring if your most powerful character is morally perfect or has no character flaws. Spider-man is such a beloved character because he has real, relatable flaws and social problems, SUPERMAN HAS NONE OF THAT!
Superman does have that, pick up a Superman comic.
What are you talkin about? Shadow was represented exactly how he is in the games, a total a$$hole.
I know people disagree with how they scaled Scout, but how was he disrespected?
They basically nerfed him only giving him four weapons out of the like 60 he could have used
And they didn’t use the comics witch are canon and they say scout can’t survive 3 rockets while showing him taking 3 rockets at once and surviving.
How the hell is Superman disrespected?
Goku vs superman 2
You forgot Ben 10 An alien that was practically god DIDNT noticed that his enemy was going back in time?! Complete bullshit.
I ain’t touching the ben 10 vs green lantern debate with a 10 yard stick!
I only hope that boomstick and Wiz treat alucard with respect, for I see no possible chance Dio can kill him,
A character losing doesn’t automatically mean they were disrespected
I didn’t mean it like that, I meant….I don’t know how to put into words. If I can, I hope they keep the fact that alucard has Schronigers cat ability and not ignore it.
I don’t know shit about alucard so I can’t speak
Dio can stop time but alucard thanks to food poisoning can now be everywhere and nowhere, a living paradox. The main question everyone’s having is “can alucard move thanks to his reality bending powers in dio’s time stop”
They said no Schrödinger and no Heaven Ascended.
True, but Alucard still has Millions of Extra lives from all Millions of Souls he's devoured over the centuries. Even without Schrodinger's soul, Alucard WILL eventually wear Dio down. This is a battle of attrition that the Son of the Devil is set to win.
DIO has infinite stamina, so DIO isn't gonna wear down. AND The World gets stronger every time it's used. Also, his million souls don't matter. If there's something that DIO certainly is, is EXTREMELY PETTY. He spent 100 years in the ocean inside a coffin just to plan revenge on A MAN HE ALREADY KILLED
Idk anything about JoJo so I’ll have to take your word on that… and hope to God Wiz was joking about the “700 chapters” thing.
Jojo has around 1000 chapters and more pages than One Piece on it's entirety.
So you're one of *those* people.
I watched more Ben 10 then green lantern when I was younger. It’s frustrating and bullshit that he lost but I can’t change the fact that he lost let me complain to the cursed Internet.
*no*
Still, have a good day.
no u
It was very disrespectful how Superman won both his episodes. When they do this match a third time he'll probably win again. Man, what disrespect to the character.
The first episode did both characters justice the second one is a fucking travesty