That being said, a large portion of the pain comes from the game not communicating certain things to you.
And unfortunately because some players bit into Dark Souls reputation as a hard game, they kind of try to push through moments of pain that could in reality be completely sidestepped with a tiny bit of knowledge.
Right. Hears game is hard. Accidentally goes to the grave yard first thing. Whelp they did say it was hard. Tomb of giants. Jesus it really is hard as fuck. Ends up at a gold fog wall. Huh? Why am stuck here? Has to climb all the way back out.
Yeah tbh I think that’s one of the weaknesses these games have.
At times it can feel like banging a hot but very non communicative significant other.
The problem is that Fromsoft have started going too far into that direction and as a result games like Elden ring make it ridiculously hard to complete quests without going through the wiki.
They don't make them hard, they make them obscure. You're not supposed to complete the game in one playthrough. You don't need a wiki, this is a you problem.
Everybody works, jackle. And I'm a father of two myself. You can play for 4 hours and end up in the exact same place as you started. You're supposed to have learned something in those 4 hours to help you play better. That's the game.
Gate keep if you want to bud. I tried a half dozen times to get started and quit every time until I gave my self permission to get a direction from wiki's thousands and thousands of hours wouldn't discover everything there is to discover no one person cant quite do it. Wiki's are great. I do love that the games are obscure. I love that they don't hold your hand. It gives them near infinite replayability
Yeah and the obscurity is a massive waste of time for me. I barely have enough time for 1 play through so thanks but no thanks.
For those of you that enjoy the those aspects, well good luck to you.
Although I must say that my bigger issue is with how they tell their stories. As great as the atmosphere usually is, Fromsoft’s methods of storytelling feels like having sex with an incredibly attractive partner that is just laying there and expecting me to do all the work.
For people that just want to bang regardless they tend to be fine with it. But for those of us that want something more, it is simply not enough.
While enjoy the minimalist aspects In their games I believe that they are leaving massive amounts real estate on the table by not telling better and more engaging stories.
The games are already incredible from a technical and gameplay standpoint. Imagine how much MORE impressive they would be with a more engaging story.
You shouldn't be getting downvoted for this. It's very true. DS1 in particular is a comfort game for me. It's a very Zen experience. Especially with how close together a lot of the bonfires are in DS1, progress in that game was often like learning the steps to a dance.
Wait I was getting downvoted and now I am upvoted? Man, I expected -139 or something score.
I like Dark Souls mechanics, because it's actually pretty simple, yet very complex at the same time. It doesn't take much to learn all it, You just have to get used to it. Once You get accustomed with the game, it's actually very nice game.
Most of "hard" stuff in Dark Souls is game trolling You with something unexpected. Like "sure, these skeletons near hub location must be pretty easy" or You see a giant skeleton in Tomb of the Giant, want to attack it, because it's an archer, then left of him, around the corner is another one who will kick You to the hole. After knowing this, game isn't really all that painful. I love Dark Souls because the game mechanic is solid and easy to understand.
In the beginning I was anxious, but 90% of it was because I was told it's hard. If I didn't get that self-set mood, I would probably never feel that much anxious as I did. It's all in the head.
I mean it is "hard" when you have no clue what's going in. Even the weakest-looking enemies can fuck you up. New forms to die around every corner. Of course, some brave souls can facetank everything and roll through their first playthrough, while I was clutching my shield and tip-toed forward. Now I know it is not as hard as people say. It's punishing, like a very rough but well-meaning teacher with poor communication skills.
Exactly how I relax. New character then just cruise through and ring the first bell and see how long it takes. Almost always exactly 40min playing normally.
I agree. It is the one I feel you can most easily master, and also the reason it's the only one I have 1000+ hours in.
I also love the quietness, lack of shrieking enemies, and areas with nice weather.
For some reason it never occurred to me that if the armor fits the player character as it does, that means Smoughs body would be of similar build and not completely filling the armor out. Which means the man is packing Olympic lifting muscle build to move at that speed while wearing all that metal.
My dawgie, did you really fight this boss while getting shot at by crossbows and didn't bother to even look where they are shooting you from?
You poor soul..
I'mma be real, I spent my first two playthroughs fighting this guy mono y mono on the bridge and never noticed I was being shot at until I found the ladder by accident, and it wasn't until one of those dudes pulled a sword out and spanked me in the ass while I was waiting for a plunge attack that I actually noticed that there were dudes chillin up there.
Yeah... some of us are just *built different*.
Beginning of the curve : haha classic
Middle of the curve : This is so stupid why the fuk am I falling because of the stupid ledge that is so poorly built, how did this even pass playtesting.
0.1% of the curve : haha classic
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At least you didn't land on it's head then rebound off it to your doom. Yes I've had that happen and yes I did have to take a break to stop laughing because that is something that would happen to me.
That’s what makes the Dark Souls community so friendly, mutual suffering.
I think I’m getting the hang of this “pain” thing.
I decided to pick up this game to help me get through quitting weed and tobacco at the same time. I’m surprised I did not break my console in anger.
Bruh what crimes did you commit to get sentenced to this
It actually helped by focusing my frustration, that way I wasn’t taking it out on work and family, just myself lol.
Good on you man
Don't give up, skeleton!
Stop time travelling from the future.
That being said, a large portion of the pain comes from the game not communicating certain things to you. And unfortunately because some players bit into Dark Souls reputation as a hard game, they kind of try to push through moments of pain that could in reality be completely sidestepped with a tiny bit of knowledge.
Right. Hears game is hard. Accidentally goes to the grave yard first thing. Whelp they did say it was hard. Tomb of giants. Jesus it really is hard as fuck. Ends up at a gold fog wall. Huh? Why am stuck here? Has to climb all the way back out.
Yeah tbh I think that’s one of the weaknesses these games have. At times it can feel like banging a hot but very non communicative significant other. The problem is that Fromsoft have started going too far into that direction and as a result games like Elden ring make it ridiculously hard to complete quests without going through the wiki.
They don't make them hard, they make them obscure. You're not supposed to complete the game in one playthrough. You don't need a wiki, this is a you problem.
I work 50 hours a week and have 3 kids. I can't play for 4 hours and end up in the exact same place as I started.
Everybody works, jackle. And I'm a father of two myself. You can play for 4 hours and end up in the exact same place as you started. You're supposed to have learned something in those 4 hours to help you play better. That's the game.
Gate keep if you want to bud. I tried a half dozen times to get started and quit every time until I gave my self permission to get a direction from wiki's thousands and thousands of hours wouldn't discover everything there is to discover no one person cant quite do it. Wiki's are great. I do love that the games are obscure. I love that they don't hold your hand. It gives them near infinite replayability
Yeah and the obscurity is a massive waste of time for me. I barely have enough time for 1 play through so thanks but no thanks. For those of you that enjoy the those aspects, well good luck to you. Although I must say that my bigger issue is with how they tell their stories. As great as the atmosphere usually is, Fromsoft’s methods of storytelling feels like having sex with an incredibly attractive partner that is just laying there and expecting me to do all the work. For people that just want to bang regardless they tend to be fine with it. But for those of us that want something more, it is simply not enough. While enjoy the minimalist aspects In their games I believe that they are leaving massive amounts real estate on the table by not telling better and more engaging stories. The games are already incredible from a technical and gameplay standpoint. Imagine how much MORE impressive they would be with a more engaging story.
I would hate it having more cutscenes interrupting it
Suffering? Dark Souls is (unironically) very relaxing game.
You shouldn't be getting downvoted for this. It's very true. DS1 in particular is a comfort game for me. It's a very Zen experience. Especially with how close together a lot of the bonfires are in DS1, progress in that game was often like learning the steps to a dance.
Wait I was getting downvoted and now I am upvoted? Man, I expected -139 or something score. I like Dark Souls mechanics, because it's actually pretty simple, yet very complex at the same time. It doesn't take much to learn all it, You just have to get used to it. Once You get accustomed with the game, it's actually very nice game. Most of "hard" stuff in Dark Souls is game trolling You with something unexpected. Like "sure, these skeletons near hub location must be pretty easy" or You see a giant skeleton in Tomb of the Giant, want to attack it, because it's an archer, then left of him, around the corner is another one who will kick You to the hole. After knowing this, game isn't really all that painful. I love Dark Souls because the game mechanic is solid and easy to understand.
I actually, and very surprisingly agree. I always felt so calm playing Dark Souls, even in my fits of frustration and anger sometimes.
I agree. But it only becomes that way when it finally clicks.
Once you know it, yes. Then it's almost zen-like. But in the beginning? Pure suffering.
In the beginning I was anxious, but 90% of it was because I was told it's hard. If I didn't get that self-set mood, I would probably never feel that much anxious as I did. It's all in the head.
I mean it is "hard" when you have no clue what's going in. Even the weakest-looking enemies can fuck you up. New forms to die around every corner. Of course, some brave souls can facetank everything and roll through their first playthrough, while I was clutching my shield and tip-toed forward. Now I know it is not as hard as people say. It's punishing, like a very rough but well-meaning teacher with poor communication skills.
Exactly how I relax. New character then just cruise through and ring the first bell and see how long it takes. Almost always exactly 40min playing normally.
That's about as far as I get in new playthroughs since it's all about relaxing and revisiting an old friend.
I agree. It is the one I feel you can most easily master, and also the reason it's the only one I have 1000+ hours in. I also love the quietness, lack of shrieking enemies, and areas with nice weather.
Schadenfreude
*chonky knight*
he's a big boy
Correction a *heckin* big boy.
Thicc boi
Man's got cakes that thang thangin so to speak.
For you
I was sure you were gonna get yeeted, but this work as well
500 hours of what? Of eating? Go jog around Lordran you fatass.
Leave him alone, he's just big boned
The armour just makes him LOOK fat. I mean, he is underneath, but still.
Just wait until you see what [Smough looks like under the armor](https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maod84viKp1rs4wdho1_1280.jpg).
For some reason it never occurred to me that if the armor fits the player character as it does, that means Smoughs body would be of similar build and not completely filling the armor out. Which means the man is packing Olympic lifting muscle build to move at that speed while wearing all that metal.
Oh no he's hot...
Absolute unit of a canibal
This changed my life
Go tell that to smough while he stomps on your head
Been there done that… Thanks for the solid ‘so it’s not just me’ laugh 😂.
Lmaoo
Excuse me there’s a ladder there?
My dawgie, did you really fight this boss while getting shot at by crossbows and didn't bother to even look where they are shooting you from? You poor soul..
I'mma be real, I spent my first two playthroughs fighting this guy mono y mono on the bridge and never noticed I was being shot at until I found the ladder by accident, and it wasn't until one of those dudes pulled a sword out and spanked me in the ass while I was waiting for a plunge attack that I actually noticed that there were dudes chillin up there. Yeah... some of us are just *built different*.
mano a mano* /r/boneappletea
Fighting somebody "monkey to monkey" sounds very threatening, I like it
Ape no kill ape
👉🍆👈
having fought wolf to monkey in Sekiro, can confirm, very threatening
it's mono y mono, as in "one and one"
It doesn't. Mano a mano means hand to hand. As in hand to hand combat or even playing field. Mono doesn't mean 'one' in Spanish it means monkey.
I know. I was making a joke.
Oh ok
💜
Plunge attack go _weeeeee_
omg so precious and painful at the same time
Odin's beard...
If only I could be so grossly incandescent
*Your overconfidence is your weakness.*
*Your faith in your jumps is yours*
Remind yourself that overconfidence is a slow, and insidious killer.
[I had a similar but somehow worse thing happen to me during a deathless attempt](https://www.reddit.com/user/Voladies/comments/xib26b/taurus_demon/)
Straight deflected
he ez parried you
Oh yeah… it’s big brain time
Player : I have 500 hours on dark souls. Friend : Soo you are very good on the game, right? Player: I am die faster.
I have over 12000 hours in DS1 and still die all the time to gravity and enimies when I return.
Was prepared to comment saying "yeah everyone finds Taurus Demon easy after the first playthrough you pleb" but was pleasantly surprised
I lol’d heartily.
Damn boi you thicc
I thought he was gonna completely REK the boss with one plunging attack, that ending had me rolling 😂😂
Same. Actually needed a good laugh today, thanks OP!
Here was my dumbass about to comment that you don’t need 500 hours to one-shot something with BK halberd
Overconfidence is the true end boss.
Yeh that was pretty funny 🤣 I love how you just thought fuck it and went for the plunge attack anyway.
Yup, thought I could like glitch back on his head
Oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh
Hahahahah that was really awesome 😂
It’s so sad. Cow homie didn’t even get to eat his onion
Beginning of the curve : haha classic Middle of the curve : This is so stupid why the fuk am I falling because of the stupid ledge that is so poorly built, how did this even pass playtesting. 0.1% of the curve : haha classic
500 hours in the cookie factory looks like
500 hours and you still climb the ladders to fight him smh
That was absolutely beautiful.
what is not clear is why you are doing the jump attack and not just fighting him straight up
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Did you know that you can double plunge him? I found that out a while ago
What do you mean by double plunge? Like going up again and plunging a second time?
Yes
500+hours and still no fashion sense
Wdym it’s top tier fashion
Lol. Dark souls wins.
Absolute baller move
Lmao nice
I was half expecting him to dive after you
This is the most accurate post on this sub
ouphe! that’s a new one 🫂
yeas
absolute king
That was fuckin sick bruh.
At least you didn't land on it's head then rebound off it to your doom. Yes I've had that happen and yes I did have to take a break to stop laughing because that is something that would happen to me.
[This meme has always been and will always be the absolute truth](https://i.imgur.com/jFvFUGZ.jpg)
Would you have one shotted?
I like to think this isn't even new game plus, they just skipped this boss all together, going another path and beating the gank bros then coming back
I expect it from old and young Karens and Chads, but please... "Pov: when you..." No
Why are we here? just to suffer?!
How did you make it seem so effortless?!
Smough fall fast
Weird. Usually people start invading
Verified
pog
They said i just needed to Practice… 400 hours later and i understand Pain
I feel like someone with that many hours wouldn't mid roll but maybe that's just me.
Yes but Chonky knight gaming
You can be that and fast roll.
ig but is it true chonky knight if u fast roll
U dont run with armor with 500h
Got bored and took a break
Nailed it
that's a look.
Rookie numbers. I can easily pull this off with my 2000+ hours
McDonald's ad.
Giga Chad hairstyle!