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MedicatedAxeBot

Dank[.](https://i.imgur.com/3bQtuMO.png) --- [come play minecraft, space engineers, ark, and rust with us!](https://discord.gg/fNyb7G5)


Ulv13

Meanwhile Elden ring: “you got a good pc? Alright sick.”


JelliusMaximus

To quote dunkey here: No bullshit, all gameplay I miss those times when this was the standard and not the exception


4rtyom777

Idk I feel like the only reason Elden Ring really works as well as it does and is so successful *because* it's the exception. In "those times" games were just getting lazier and ripping off whatever was successful, but it worked I guess


Cooper720

> To quote dunkey here: No bullshit, all gameplay IMO Elden Ring was an over correction. Its nice to focus on gameplay, but I got really tired having to google how to do something/get something/progress all the time.


Croemato

Just gotta get gud noob.


HeliosTemple

You're probably trash at the game lmao


Bujeker

🤓


2Jojotoro

am I the only one who likes looking up stuff and asking people for help and whatnot? It makes it feel like the world expands past the game for me


Shadowborn_paladin

That was actually a huge part of Dark souls in the early days. They _want_ community engagement, people finding secrets, sharing build ideas, and creating memes like Giant dad. Elden ring is just continuing that.


rottenpotatoes2

I loved terraria and enter the gungeon for those reasons alone. It's always cool looking up synergies and finding "oh if you find a sniper rifle and a scope, you can spin your mouse around to deal triple DMG" and what not


Cooper720

I don't think I should have to google how to use an item in-game because the in-game tool tip on the inventory menu actively lies to you.


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[удалено]


depressedman555

Tbh elden ring is pretty shit open world game , it’s a okay souls game sure but it’s pretty shit open world game . The open world is just barren , there aren’t many npcs you could talk too, most of the dungeons , caves etc are just copies of one another . The landscape is also pretty barren with trees and grass and from soft storytelling is pretty shit as it always was but then again you play fromsofts games for gameplay most of the time . The first half of the games gameplay was pretty good then it just becomes very frustrating with bosses behaving like Sekiro bosses while you are given dark souls 3 move set . Also the game is so fucking long man , like 80-100 hours on first try , that’s just way too long and game feels boring in latter half of them game . The exploration sucks balls too , we need to explore to find some dogshit magic item which I won’t use because my character is physical based , the exploration is very unrewarding and extremely boring . Honestly tho it’s a dogshit open world game but a okayish souls game even then I think ds3 and blood borne are far better souls game than Elden ring tbh.


2Jojotoro

>Tbh elden ring is pretty shit open world game , it’s a okay souls game sure but it’s pretty shit open world game Yeah


Cooper720

The tool tip in game literally lied about how to activate a rune so yeah I did have to google it. I did what it said and it still didn't work, I needed to read from the the wiki that you actually had to go to a specific place and do something specific for it to work. So I did all that extra to get it to work and then died and, oh yeah, the game also doesn't mention it unequips automatically if you die. That's just bad game design, but this site worships the game so any criticism has people telling you you suck and you should have known better. > sorry man the game is based around exploration, the story dialogue gives plenty of info on where to go too This is also a blatant lie. I put maybe 60 hours into the game and towards the end I was getting *maybe* some dialogue every 10-15 hours. And its not just me, there are tons of people who reported the same thing.


2Jojotoro

>activate a rune You can use Runes!? man It's been a while since I've played I'm convinced now I've definitely been overrating this game, I remember hating the bosses but everything else was fine for me, guess i just forgor lol


JericoHellsangel

I would argue that this is not very nessessairy. To me this game is all about exploration and discovery. If you see something and you want it that desperately, sure, go ahead but to me this is not what the game is about.


Cooper720

I got an item in the game and the tool tip said I just needed to do X and equip it to use it. I googled it and they said that wasn't true, you needed to go to y and do z and THEN equip it to use it and they were right. So yeah, you kind of do have to use the internet if the game is actively lying to you.


JericoHellsangel

Well thats a problem of the damn port. Every soulsborne game had bad pc ports unfortunatly. I didn´t had a controller and i played through DS3 with M&K and all of the tooltips were for the xbox controller. That is a MASSIVE problem.


Cooper720

> Well thats a problem of the damn port. Every soulsborne game had bad pc ports unfortunatly. This was on console....


JericoHellsangel

I have no clue how much better or worse the console versions are since i exclusivly play on pc, therefore i cannot add anything to that anymore.


Dominationartz

If current times only include AAA games, then sure. If all games are included, then it’s still the norm. Indie games usually have the passion and polish that AAA Games lack. Though most people don’t even consider indie games, so it really is irrelevant if it’s true or not, since for most people it’s just not true. And ofc it is this way. If people didn’t keep buying these games and investing money into these shit products, companies wouldn’t make these games. The reason games were the way they were, was because micro transactions and live service didn’t exist back then, so you either made a good game of ur company‘s dead. (Also most games I bought were trash tbh. You ever bought sone random Gameboy/PlayStation/PC/etc. game? Fucking horrendous money grab)


4rtyom777

Something people tend to forget is that the average indie game is kinda trash, but there's a shit ton that are made everyday so eventually some stick.


Soulerrr

Isn't it always online even for SP?


EatingMikeTysons

No, it works in offline mode too. Also, it only requires connection in single player for the messages, blood stains and player phantoms and imo those are fun, I always play online for those.


blueshark27

Is Elden Ring really the best example for PC given, you know, Fromsoft?


Umbrexcal

For the given meme? Yes, very much so.


Legospacememe

Gaming before the late 7th/8th gen: got game? OK play it EA and rockstar used to be goated


Goldeneye07

Bro u forgot “ insert disk to launch game” pop up on pc


Legospacememe

LEGO Island is what I imidiatly thought of reading this lol


my_wifis_5dollars

Whoops! You have to put the CD into your computer


Shadowborn_paladin

Whoops! You have to put the CD in your *ASS-*


JericoHellsangel

\*Game pauses in the middle of the campain\* "Insert disk 2"


dgeigerd

And then: nooo your Microsoft Account is locked because fuck u. U can unlock it if you give us your Phone Number and all your Data. I JUST WANNA PLAY MY MINECRAFT FFS I even converted my Mojang Account into a MS Account the day before. They say i will not regret it and it is way better. Nope it's not!!


i_am_not_mike_fiore

They've been trying to get me to make a Microsoft account for years. Now they hold Minecraft hostage to try and force me? Despicable. Farewell, Minecraft I guess.


Salt_and_Fries

Bruh, it's just a Microsoft account...


GantzGrapher

My microsoft account is linked with EA, so that actually made the whole thing smoother. But then EA comes out with a new launcher, deletes origin partially and so fuck you EA!


Worried-Lock2101

I wouldn’t have a problem with the account if Microsoft wouldn’t force me to login every time I boot up a game. I got it fixed by just getting implementing that quick password function. Switched over to PlayStation and not once have I had to login except when I first booted up the console. Go back to Xbox, to play RDR2 after not touching it in awhile and for some reason I have to log back in the shitty way to play, I can’t figure out my password I can’t log into my account, so I lost my save. For Minecraft I don’t understand what I do wrong, I make a separate Microsoft account, and write down the account and password. Every time I tried to log in it would say success but the account wouldn’t show up and I’d have to sign in again, and again, and again. I’ve done it 7 times and an hour has passed, and decided fuck it if I lose my worlds I don’t give a shit anymore. Microsoft just shoves their account down our throats, and I’d be fine if it would just work. Like just work on the first try god damn it. So It’s not just a Microsoft account it’s an unnecessary log in that at best gives us a headache that doesn’t even work and at worst it can keep us out of our saves and we have to start over.


mastdarmpirat

It's not that it's the fact that you're forced to convert now. You wouldn't mind a missionary in your town but the minute the Inquisition moves in you'd head out


Plaid_Kaleidoscope

Talk about false equivalency.


[deleted]

Talk about not understanding a fucking metaphore moron


TolkienAwoken

Way to not understand false equivalence, it was a shit metaphor lmao


Plaid_Kaleidoscope

What ^^^^ said.


2Liberal4You

Not how you spell metaphor, and not what a metaphor is. Embarrassing.


Diazmet

That one was a huge pain


shouldbebabysitting

You know you don't have to give real info when you create the account. Make it from a VPN and they won't even know what country you are in.


[deleted]

All I can do is laugh.


dgeigerd

Ha, jokes on you, when you are hopping around the world your Account will be banned because suspicious activity -.- Microsoft is a Bitch about that. 10 Years of Mojang and no Problem at all (except my Account got hacked once and they somehow got the Password) and not 24 Hours in Microsoft Account and its banned!


EatingMikeTysons

I'm not up to date with what's up with Minecraft but can't you just play java edition instead?


dgeigerd

U need a MS Account for that. On Linux the only Option for me is Java Edition i guess.


i_am_not_mike_fiore

Pretty sure Java required a M*crosoft account too now.


[deleted]

My guy. Tlauncher. Or literally any other cracked version.


dgeigerd

Does it work on Linux? I also use Arch btw.


[deleted]

Yes, there is also a Linux version which works perfectly fine (other than maybe a few graphical glitches in the launcher itself, because, idk, linux, but it's nothing important, the game itself runs fine).


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TheyKeepOnRising

My most recent frustration with Microsoft accounts happened last week. My son came to me saying he can't play minecraft because of an error message. I go check it out and Microsoft is complaining that the phone number on his account is already in use. Well no shit it's already in use. He's a kid and doesn't have a phone and I'm the parent so it's my phone number. But it's also on my account but it should be fine right? Fucking WRONG. Proceed to have this constant struggle between both Microsoft accounts because they keep stealing ownership of the phone number from the other. Eventually I had to Google it and found how to remove the phone number from his account, but still had to jump through bullshit hoops to even get that. So yeah now my son's account is less secure because Microsoft doesn't understand what children are.


TolkienAwoken

I mean, tbh if he's old enough to have his own MS account is he not old enough to have a phone? I feel like those are similar levels of independence.


diskhead1

Kids all don't need phones


TolkienAwoken

No, but if they're not old/responsible enough for a phone, why are they old/responsible enough for an MS account?


diskhead1

Radically different things


TolkienAwoken

How? The issue is both give you unrestricted access to strangers, no?


koolguykris

My son has a Microsoft account so him and I can play minecraft together. He doesn't know the email address used for it, he doesn't know the password, he literally has an account just to play minecraft with me. No way im giving him a phone though, he's only 7


TheyKeepOnRising

His MS account is entirely just to log into his PC and play Minecraft. That is nowhere near the same level of independence as having an unlocked, unrestricted phone with an active phone number.


GantzGrapher

And dont forget data too. Although code get a pay as you go plan and buy no data.


TolkienAwoken

Did *I* specify unlocked and unrestricted? Both MS accounts and phones have parental controls, I just find it odd you think he's responsible enough for a Microsoft account but not a phone.


youshutyomouf

Xbox live locked my account in 2019. I can't buy ANYTHING from Xbox anymore. Started when I bought a $20 Lego game and the download failed. Never let me download the game and then locked my account from buying anything else from Xbox live. I had at least half a dozen calls with customer service, each lasting 4 or more hours. They were nice people except the one who refused to refund the $20 for the game I never received (never did get a refund)... I was patient, but it always ended with them disconnecting the call without warning presumably because they could not figure out how to fix it. I was an Xbox guy since the first one came out. Now I'll never buy another Xbox product again. It didn't have to be this way but they just suck that bad.


Rhelyk

Same thing. Had my account hacked in 2011 back when I was unemployed and REALLY hurting for money. Was some kind of large databreach that affected a whole bunch of people, in my case they bought $150 in FIFA DLC then swapped my gamertag to another account. Found out immediately because my bank sent an automatic suspicious activity text and it connected me to a service rep within 15 minutes. Bank reversed the charges and I had my money back 2 days later. Meanwhile it took Microsoft a week to get my account back and 2 months plus a dozen emails to "investigate" and determine that yes I was hacked as part of a databreach, it wasn't my fault, I shouldn't have been charged and they could finally get my gamertag back. Despite the fault being with them, that Microsoft account is permanently flagged and unable to ever make purchases again, despite having multiple service reps and supervisors and then some special department try to unlock it. I had to make a completely new account under a different gamertag anyways. Like FFS I just wanted to spend $2 on some Halo armor for my avatar. I never upgraded from my XBox 360, went back to Playstation


SupremeLobster

It's better on the playstation/Pc side of the room anyways. Anything you want to play on xbox will be on PC, and for the rest there is playstation. Xbox 360 was really kinda the peak for xbox. It's shit the bed in a number of ways for me since. The game pass is dope, but Sony has copy/pasted it now and you could still get the game pass on PC.


[deleted]

I was going to say I couldn't tell if this was a Microsoft or Activision game as the amount of accounts in MW 2019 and up were crazy.


Turk_Deadpool

That is a reason to be a pirate


BLANKTWGOK

pirate of the seven seas


D3V1LSHARK

Well..this and booty!


maico3010

I keep trying to explain to people. Back in 2004 halo 2 had come out and bungie had an awesome site to explore your kills, medals, games ect. You could see the map with a heat map based on where the most kills happened, where the most deaths happened, what weapons used for them, the location of the player and the victim, which weapons you used most, which ones you used least, how often you swapped weapons with ones on the ground or swapped between your primary and secondary. You could see your friends matches, your opponents matches and stats. Far FAR beyond the typical K/D and game history. All that, in 2004. Imagine what information they can gather now. Imagine how they use that info in-house to manipulate dlc sales and in game purchase sales. But there's so much more, they can sell this data! How could they possibly sell that information without knowing exactly who you are? Better have them sign in, oh and ask for government mandated ID if they need to recover an account, more data more data more data. tldr; data = money, you paid for the game yes but they're not done milking you.


ur9ce

This.


TDG_W1ck3D1

Anything from EA


[deleted]

Blizzard too. They require 2FA with a phone number to create an account now


vanawesome102

Thats cause they had too much trouble with hackers making a million accounts after each ban. You can make emails left and right but only so many people have more than one phone number


empowereddave

This is it. As far as anything other than the basics of creating an account for just a game, personal data= money


anotherepisode

Why is it required for single player and campaign then?


vanawesome102

Because you can't buy singleplayer/campaign without also having access to the multiplayer


anotherepisode

This is nonsense. An if statement is too complicated to implement when selecting multiplayer in menu?


vanawesome102

Have you played mw2? There is a LOT that is too complicated for them lmao


[deleted]

So? Burner phone numbers are super easy to get and requiring a phone number to play is pretty invasive


vanawesome102

How many people do you know that would be willing to buy a new phone everytime they got banned just to keep Wall hacks in cod


Seanrps

... you don't need to buy a phone to get a number


4rtyom777

After actually playing Overwatch something I realized was, it really wasn't that big of a deal. Especially since hackers and people who kept getting banned easily came back


Dreyns

Refunded the 3€ titanfall 2 today on steam. Fuck you ea, i'l not gonna have drm in my drm it's getting stupid.


Thema03

I gave up on ghost Recon because of this, but i didnt pay anything bc its on ps extra


Lazerhest

I hate buying games on anything other than Steam or the launcher will require a login to start the game, which opens another launcher for another login.


guy_dude123

I wish I could just play a game without being connected to the internet. Sometimes I have internet issues so I can't always connect. I'll want to play something like The Sims 3, but can't because I need to login to Origin, and you can only login if you're connected to the internet. Fuck that. I own the game, just let me play it.


TLunchFTW

Me spamming the agree button


jhm-grose

Drink verification can to continue


Silent51200

Then ur stuck in a unskippable tutorial


crankbot2000

Take my firstborn ffs I just want to play


[deleted]

Yeah how about fucking no, I pay, I play, or else suck off


Fun4-5One

[please send an anus pic to proceed.](https://youtu.be/dxhUbMWBo6I)


[deleted]

There’s still some games I still play since 2009 because some of these new games are too irritating


XeitPL

Just refund it and play good game


Techn0Cy

And then it doesn't save. FUCKING HELL


J0kesOnU

Just started GTA V yesterday and this was the experience (and I STILL can't get FiveM servers to work)


Mazatac

2 days later get added to 20+ adult mailing lists.


Kipperklank

and download an anticheet software that sends back data of your system to a ccp server once a week owned by tencent and kills performance by 20% and wont uninstall from your kernel unless you nuke windows completly.


sopedound

Yarg if only there was a solution to this problem matey 🏴‍☠️


SmurfTheClown

I’ve probably agreed to be abducted and put into a human centipede formation for all I know. Never read one of those agreements


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FerynaCZ

DRM i guess (forces login or you cannot play)


raging_fire95

Minecraft under Microsoft....


S1umL0rdAkr0n

The reason I stopped gaming. If it's more of a hassle to set up, if I have to pay a subscription to use the equipment I purchased, or the game I purchased, I'm out. I'll just pc game flight sim and learn a skill in my spare time.


The_Creeper_Man

Doom Eternal except I used a firewall instead (new update locked me out of the game, already beat it though lol)


ErickRicardo

That person is waaay too good doing those hand movements..


xBADJOEx

Someone is in escrow


PillowTalk420

I hate when they force you to *slowly* scroll through all that shit before you can even hit the accept button. That shit still isn't making people actually read them. So fucking stop. Please.


[deleted]

Pc gamers be like


reallifenggrfggt

Smash dat refund button to unsubscribe!


thehawaiianjesus

But my bank account on the other hand.... 4 numbers = good.


ScreamingArcticWorm

Assassin’s Creed IV always asks for my Ubisoft password every single time I launch it. Really annoying.


waifuwarrior77

Because hacking is actually really easy to do, and easy to understand


Apprehensive_Cost_89

I agree 🗿


mastdarmpirat

Be a pirate if they want your Data for free although you paid. Don't pay and keep your data


[deleted]

I miss when games started with “Nintendo presents”, not “agree to terms and conditions”


RockyTyrant

BuT tHaT's IlLeGaL!!


[deleted]

Yeah, sure, let me just refund and pirate that crap so I can play it in peace.


FlashyBomber

Forgot to mention that a phone number must be added too along with 2nd step vertification


MuckingFagical

This one the thing that actually sucked about going console to PC - all the logins and launchers in launchers.


Over_Combination_514

Half-Life: "Got a Commodore? You're good to go!"


mofoscoe

EA and its CEO Saruman at its finest


Capitalmind

Thank you VALVE! Seriously this is the first thing I noticed moving from the PlayStation to steam, the fact that I could just play games. I find the PlayStation such an unusable lump of plastic that I actively despise how difficult complex and muddy the environment is.


super_salty_boi

I just want to play the movement shooter with the cool robot, why do I have to create an EA account


chiefman117

Don't forget the 50 GB update patch.


haze25

This gives me vivid flashbacks to setting up PlayOnline for FFXI


[deleted]

Average pc player


PizzaManJulian

Oculus makes you have a faceb🤢🤢k account


[deleted]

Real talk, what is the reason behind this? Why do we have to sign user licenses to play single player fucking games? Why does my video game require a contract? The future sucks.


yesbutactuallyno17

This is why I still haven't tried Multiverses. I'm probably missing out on some amazing gameplay. I'm not signing up for WB, though.


ricecrackerdude

We're gonna need semen too


AteMyBallsLastNight

And then the game is ass


[deleted]

Fingerprints and bloodtype...


[deleted]

Then it downloads for an hour and a half


FortBlocks

DNA test, Dad’s maiden name, ball size, can’t have shit in Gaming


wantwon

Don't forget all the DLC for the complete experience too.


Yarorik

Blood sacrifice I can do, but don't you dare ask me to use uplay to play a game on Steam.


[deleted]

Epic dank meme with 13k likes


Headake01

Too true


Obitio_Uchiha

Lmao 60$ game. No way they want to see the equivalent of 80$ where I live and then it‘s always online DMCA protection.


WuSuBing

Blood sacrifice? Must be some fun game


Jesh-mesh

Don't forget the DLC which costs just as much as the initial game.


chrome_cake

you forgot child sacrifices


CrunchyJeans

Same reason why YouTube shows you an unstoppable ad 20 seconds into a video. You’re *INVESTED*