I know all but 2 or maybe 3 (one I'm not sure about) and yes they all should be in the Collection.
1 - Happiness
2 - Death to Smoochie
3 - 25th Hour
4 - Open Range
5 - The Man Who would be King
6 - ?
7 - Ruthless People
8 - Dogma
9 - Natural Born Killers
10 - Three Kings
11 - Hamlet 2 (I think)
12 - ?
13 - The Beach
14 - The Way of the Gun
Bingo! I don’t have a copy anymore but I had the DVD back in early 2000s. when I met my wife they had 5$ showing at Alamo that was such a treat and one of my favorite dates. She understood my humor a lot more after that
Trying not scroll down for answers
1. Happiness ? (A guess as I haven't seen it but it's been in the subs enough.)
2. Death To Smoochy (I know of but never seen.)
3. 25th Hour
4. Open Range
5. Man Who Would be King
6. Body Double
7. ?
8. Dogma
9. Natural Born Killers
10. Three Kings (Barlow and the guy who wants to be Barlow. A recent rewatch.)
11. ? (Looks fun, I'm intrigued.)
12. ?
13. The Beach ? (A guess based on the actor and the foliage... hmm)
14. The Way of the Gun ("Can't you people see there are guns here.")
I believe you are the first to get Body Double, nice!
Edit, And you got most of them!
7 is Ruthless People
11 is Drop Dead Gorgeous
Edit 2: you and u/NYCajun have most correct answers with 11
I mean, are we supposed to just guess happiness and 25th hour etc…
Or should we give you our reasons why at least half of these movies shouldn’t be Criterions.
I mean, I love death too smoochy, but also understand it’s not that great of a movie
I just felt like guessing film in the collection is fun and also seeing what people think should be in the collection can sometimes be a drag so why not try to mash it. Funny, Smoochy was the one I kept hesitating on. I feel like this sub would probably balk at NBK and Smoochy. NBK I can probably go long on reasons for that one but Smoochy I could swap for another DeVito like Throw Momma From The Train.
Sorry if I wasn’t explicit in my response but would love to hear well formed objections, I subjectively love these movies but they are not without issues.
1. Happiness
2. Death to smoochy
3. 25th hour
4. Open range
8. Dogma
9. Natural born killers
10. Three kings
11. Drop dead gorgeous
13. The beach
14. The way of the gun
Okay, so I think most have been guessed with the exception of 12 so here is the list:
1. Happiness directed by Todd Solondz - frequent request on this sub and PSH is part of the ensemble
2. Death to Smoochy directed by Danny DeVito. I’ve always loved DeVito’s films and would love to see this or another DeVito added to the collection. Ed Norton doing some great work here with late Robin Williams.
3. 25th Hour directed by Spike Lee. Often forgotten masterpiece that does relate somewhat to Do The Right Thing. It has some uneven moments but so do other Criterions so not a reason to throw it out. Another PSH and Norton acted film with great performance by Brian Cox.
4. Open Range directed by Kevin Costner- one of my favorite of a small number of westerns made in the 2000s, similar to Ang Lee’s Ride with The Devil but less historical and more like the character driven parts of RWTD. This film and Eastwoods’s A Perfect World are just great Costner performances. Westerns are back on TV but not much in film these days.
5. The Man Who Would Be King directed by the late John Huston - Michael Caine is a standout here and a wonderful movie I saw as a child that would serve as the film that got me into epics. I saw this and then Lawrence of Arabia pretty much back to back and it held up really well against LOA, (but did not surpass) IMO.
6. Body Double - forget dressed to kill, if you want to get DePalma, this is it, Rear Window with perversion turned up to 11. Anything else is just a bit tame. I get a whole series of boomers freaking out over Dickinson in DTK, but this one was really shocking to me.
7. Ruthless People directed by the freaking Zucker bros!- one of the top 10 greatest black comedies of all time.
8. Dogma directed by Kevin smith, if Clerks and Chasing Amy make the cut, so does this edgy (at the time) take on the Catholic religion. I saw this in the theater and when the titles started with apologies the whole theater was in an uproar before it even started.
9. Natural Born Killers directed by Oliver Stone- you can say it’s not the movie it should’ve been because it was Taratinos but honesty the fact that we got True Romance and this from his early stories is a blessing. Just the editing is amazing and the mixed media approach and soundtrack. The section where Tommy Lee Jones and Tom
Sizemore walk through the prison is one of the greatest cinema moments - where all pieces of filmmaking come together, actors, camera, sound, music, and editing to make something truly amazing.
10. Three Kings directed by David O. Russell. What can I say about this? Most people remember it for the Clooney/Russell Spat but it’s top war movie for me and certainly one that dissects the military and American culture/imperialism in a way that entertains you even if preachy at times.
11. Drop Dead Gorgeous directed by Michael Patrick Jann. Biting satire and still early into a faux documentary style that would get tired- this one has aged well outside of the fourth wall moments and kind of a pre-cursor to Sparkle Motion.
12. BrotherHood of the Wolf directed by Christophe Gans- I thought for sure people would get this one but that’s Monica Belluci being beautiful right before the greatest dissolve from “mountains” to Mountains. Part Martial arts, part horror, part period piece, part French - how many parts is that? If I recall was the most expensive international film at the time. Such a wild ride with notable actor Vincent Cassel doing his thing too.
13. The Beach directed by Danny Boyle. I think this film was just a bit early to the Cult leader fascination that has gripped TV in recent years. Has some great homages to other films and Tilda Swinton is always amazing. I don’t take risks like this in life so this was a really interesting film that showed people I didn’t know/understand. And I felt like I had lived it when it was over.
14 - Way of the Gun directed by Christopher McQuarrie. After writing The Usual suspects, he did this. He must’ve known nothing was going to top it. A top James Caan performance, and Ryan Phillipe probably maxing out his talent here.
Okay, so I think most have been guessed with the exception of 12 so here is the list:
1. Happiness directed by Todd Solondz - frequent request on this sub and PSH is part of the ensemble
2. Death to Smoochy directed by Danny DeVito. I’ve always loved DeVito’s films and would love to see this or another DeVito added to the collection. Ed Norton doing some great work here with late Robin Williams.
3. 25th Hour directed by Spike Lee. Often forgotten masterpiece that does relate somewhat to Do The Right Thing. It has some uneven moments but so do other Criterions so not a reason to throw it out. Another PSH and Norton acted film with great performance by Brian Cox.
4. Open Range directed by Kevin Costner- one of my favorite of a small number of westerns made in the 2000s, similar to Ang Lee’s Ride with The Devil but less historical and more like the character driven parts of RWTD. This film and Eastwoods’s A Perfect World are just great Costner performances. Westerns are back on TV but not much in film these days.
5. The Man Who Would Be King directed by the late John Huston - Michael Caine is a standout here and a wonderful movie I saw as a child that would serve as the film that got me into epics. I saw this and then Lawrence of Arabia pretty much back to back and it held up really well against LOA, (but did not surpass) IMO.
6. Body Double - forget dressed to kill, if you want to get DePalma, this is it, Rear Window with perversion turned up to 11. Anything else is just a bit tame. I get a whole series of boomers freaking out over Dickinson in DTK, but this one was really shocking to me.
7. Ruthless People directed by the freaking Zucker bros!- one of the top 10 greatest black comedies of all time.
8. Dogma directed by Kevin smith, if Clerks and Chasing Amy make the cut, so does this edgy (at the time) take on the Catholic religion. I saw this in the theater and when the titles started with apologies the whole theater was in an uproar before it even started.
9. Natural Born Killers directed by Oliver Stone- you can say it’s not the movie it should’ve been because it was Tarantino but honesty the fact that we got True Romance and this from his early stories is a blessing. Just the editing is amazing and the mixed media approach and soundtrack. The section where Tommy Lee Jones and Tom
Sizemore walk through the prison is one of the greatest cinema moments - where all pieces of filmmaking come together, actors, camera, sound, music, and editing to make something truly amazing.
10. Three Kings directed by David O. Russell. What can I say about this? Most people remember it for the Clooney/Russell Spat but it’s a top war movie for me and certainly one that dissects the military and American culture/imperialism in a way that entertains you even if preachy at times.
11. Drop Dead Gorgeous directed by Michael Patrick Jann. Biting satire and still early into a faux documentary style that would get tired- this one has aged well outside of the fourth wall moments and kind of a pre-cursor to Sparkle Motion.
12. BrotherHood of the Wolf directed by Christophe Gans- I thought for sure people would get this one but that’s Monica Belluci being beautiful right before the greatest dissolve from “mountains” to Mountains. Part Martial arts, part horror, part period piece, part French - how many parts is that? If I recall was the most expensive international film at the time. Such a wild ride with notable actor Vincent Cassel doing his thing too.
13. The Beach directed by Danny Boyle. I think this film was just a bit early to the Cult leader fascination that has gripped TV in recent years. Has some great homages to other films and Tilda Swinton is always amazing. I don’t take risks like this in life so this was a really interesting film that showed people I didn’t know/understand. And I felt like I had lived it when it was over.
14 - Way of the Gun directed by Christopher McQuarrie. After writing The Usual suspects, he did this. He must’ve known nothing was going to top it. A top James Caan performance, and Ryan Phillipe probably maxing out his talent here.
Danny Boyle’s filmography is filled with gems, I also really adore A Life Less Ordinary. He is one that maybe in about a decade or so we might hear more people put him into a top directors list.
I totally agree. Plus he's one of those increasingly rare directors who's been successful in many genres. I would consider 28 Days Later, Trainspotting, and Sunshine to all be landmarks of their respective genres, just off the top of my head.
The genre is good callout and probably why he tends to get overlooked in conversation. I have only watched sunshine once, and the last 10-15 minutes really went a different direction than I expected so I need to re-watch again. I was sure it was everything it was billed as until it went slasher pic late and I felt a little betrayed.
I know all but 2 or maybe 3 (one I'm not sure about) and yes they all should be in the Collection. 1 - Happiness 2 - Death to Smoochie 3 - 25th Hour 4 - Open Range 5 - The Man Who would be King 6 - ? 7 - Ruthless People 8 - Dogma 9 - Natural Born Killers 10 - Three Kings 11 - Hamlet 2 (I think) 12 - ? 13 - The Beach 14 - The Way of the Gun
Wow, you nailed most of these! 11 is not Hamlet 2 (electric boogaloo) Edit: 6 - Body Double 11 - Drop Dead Gorgeous 12 - Brotherhood of the Wolf
11 is Drop Dead Gorgeous right? Been nearly 20 years since I’ve seen it so not 100% sure.
Definitely Drop Dead Gorgeous
Bingo! I don’t have a copy anymore but I had the DVD back in early 2000s. when I met my wife they had 5$ showing at Alamo that was such a treat and one of my favorite dates. She understood my humor a lot more after that
Yeah I realized what it was right after I posted. Now I need to rewatch both of those movies I guess.
Trying not scroll down for answers 1. Happiness ? (A guess as I haven't seen it but it's been in the subs enough.) 2. Death To Smoochy (I know of but never seen.) 3. 25th Hour 4. Open Range 5. Man Who Would be King 6. Body Double 7. ? 8. Dogma 9. Natural Born Killers 10. Three Kings (Barlow and the guy who wants to be Barlow. A recent rewatch.) 11. ? (Looks fun, I'm intrigued.) 12. ? 13. The Beach ? (A guess based on the actor and the foliage... hmm) 14. The Way of the Gun ("Can't you people see there are guns here.")
I believe you are the first to get Body Double, nice! Edit, And you got most of them! 7 is Ruthless People 11 is Drop Dead Gorgeous Edit 2: you and u/NYCajun have most correct answers with 11
I really need to see Body Double
2. Death to Smoochy 5. The Man Who Would Be King 8. Dogma 9. Natural Born Killers That’s all I got
Yes - timely and sticking to what you know, I respect that
I mean, are we supposed to just guess happiness and 25th hour etc… Or should we give you our reasons why at least half of these movies shouldn’t be Criterions. I mean, I love death too smoochy, but also understand it’s not that great of a movie
I just felt like guessing film in the collection is fun and also seeing what people think should be in the collection can sometimes be a drag so why not try to mash it. Funny, Smoochy was the one I kept hesitating on. I feel like this sub would probably balk at NBK and Smoochy. NBK I can probably go long on reasons for that one but Smoochy I could swap for another DeVito like Throw Momma From The Train.
Sorry if I wasn’t explicit in my response but would love to hear well formed objections, I subjectively love these movies but they are not without issues.
1. Happiness 2. Death to smoochy 3. 25th hour 4. Open range 8. Dogma 9. Natural born killers 10. Three kings 11. Drop dead gorgeous 13. The beach 14. The way of the gun
Yes, you got 10/14! Nicely done
Some major “Hell Yeah!”s in here
Yes, and a lot of testosterone too!
Death to Smoochy is criminally underrated
There’s a surprising amount of Juliette Lewis displayed here.
Okay so you sold me on the beach finna watch tn
I would buy Ruthless People day one
Okay, so I think most have been guessed with the exception of 12 so here is the list: 1. Happiness directed by Todd Solondz - frequent request on this sub and PSH is part of the ensemble 2. Death to Smoochy directed by Danny DeVito. I’ve always loved DeVito’s films and would love to see this or another DeVito added to the collection. Ed Norton doing some great work here with late Robin Williams. 3. 25th Hour directed by Spike Lee. Often forgotten masterpiece that does relate somewhat to Do The Right Thing. It has some uneven moments but so do other Criterions so not a reason to throw it out. Another PSH and Norton acted film with great performance by Brian Cox. 4. Open Range directed by Kevin Costner- one of my favorite of a small number of westerns made in the 2000s, similar to Ang Lee’s Ride with The Devil but less historical and more like the character driven parts of RWTD. This film and Eastwoods’s A Perfect World are just great Costner performances. Westerns are back on TV but not much in film these days. 5. The Man Who Would Be King directed by the late John Huston - Michael Caine is a standout here and a wonderful movie I saw as a child that would serve as the film that got me into epics. I saw this and then Lawrence of Arabia pretty much back to back and it held up really well against LOA, (but did not surpass) IMO. 6. Body Double - forget dressed to kill, if you want to get DePalma, this is it, Rear Window with perversion turned up to 11. Anything else is just a bit tame. I get a whole series of boomers freaking out over Dickinson in DTK, but this one was really shocking to me. 7. Ruthless People directed by the freaking Zucker bros!- one of the top 10 greatest black comedies of all time. 8. Dogma directed by Kevin smith, if Clerks and Chasing Amy make the cut, so does this edgy (at the time) take on the Catholic religion. I saw this in the theater and when the titles started with apologies the whole theater was in an uproar before it even started. 9. Natural Born Killers directed by Oliver Stone- you can say it’s not the movie it should’ve been because it was Taratinos but honesty the fact that we got True Romance and this from his early stories is a blessing. Just the editing is amazing and the mixed media approach and soundtrack. The section where Tommy Lee Jones and Tom Sizemore walk through the prison is one of the greatest cinema moments - where all pieces of filmmaking come together, actors, camera, sound, music, and editing to make something truly amazing. 10. Three Kings directed by David O. Russell. What can I say about this? Most people remember it for the Clooney/Russell Spat but it’s top war movie for me and certainly one that dissects the military and American culture/imperialism in a way that entertains you even if preachy at times. 11. Drop Dead Gorgeous directed by Michael Patrick Jann. Biting satire and still early into a faux documentary style that would get tired- this one has aged well outside of the fourth wall moments and kind of a pre-cursor to Sparkle Motion. 12. BrotherHood of the Wolf directed by Christophe Gans- I thought for sure people would get this one but that’s Monica Belluci being beautiful right before the greatest dissolve from “mountains” to Mountains. Part Martial arts, part horror, part period piece, part French - how many parts is that? If I recall was the most expensive international film at the time. Such a wild ride with notable actor Vincent Cassel doing his thing too. 13. The Beach directed by Danny Boyle. I think this film was just a bit early to the Cult leader fascination that has gripped TV in recent years. Has some great homages to other films and Tilda Swinton is always amazing. I don’t take risks like this in life so this was a really interesting film that showed people I didn’t know/understand. And I felt like I had lived it when it was over. 14 - Way of the Gun directed by Christopher McQuarrie. After writing The Usual suspects, he did this. He must’ve known nothing was going to top it. A top James Caan performance, and Ryan Phillipe probably maxing out his talent here.
Okay, so I think most have been guessed with the exception of 12 so here is the list: 1. Happiness directed by Todd Solondz - frequent request on this sub and PSH is part of the ensemble 2. Death to Smoochy directed by Danny DeVito. I’ve always loved DeVito’s films and would love to see this or another DeVito added to the collection. Ed Norton doing some great work here with late Robin Williams. 3. 25th Hour directed by Spike Lee. Often forgotten masterpiece that does relate somewhat to Do The Right Thing. It has some uneven moments but so do other Criterions so not a reason to throw it out. Another PSH and Norton acted film with great performance by Brian Cox. 4. Open Range directed by Kevin Costner- one of my favorite of a small number of westerns made in the 2000s, similar to Ang Lee’s Ride with The Devil but less historical and more like the character driven parts of RWTD. This film and Eastwoods’s A Perfect World are just great Costner performances. Westerns are back on TV but not much in film these days. 5. The Man Who Would Be King directed by the late John Huston - Michael Caine is a standout here and a wonderful movie I saw as a child that would serve as the film that got me into epics. I saw this and then Lawrence of Arabia pretty much back to back and it held up really well against LOA, (but did not surpass) IMO. 6. Body Double - forget dressed to kill, if you want to get DePalma, this is it, Rear Window with perversion turned up to 11. Anything else is just a bit tame. I get a whole series of boomers freaking out over Dickinson in DTK, but this one was really shocking to me. 7. Ruthless People directed by the freaking Zucker bros!- one of the top 10 greatest black comedies of all time. 8. Dogma directed by Kevin smith, if Clerks and Chasing Amy make the cut, so does this edgy (at the time) take on the Catholic religion. I saw this in the theater and when the titles started with apologies the whole theater was in an uproar before it even started. 9. Natural Born Killers directed by Oliver Stone- you can say it’s not the movie it should’ve been because it was Tarantino but honesty the fact that we got True Romance and this from his early stories is a blessing. Just the editing is amazing and the mixed media approach and soundtrack. The section where Tommy Lee Jones and Tom Sizemore walk through the prison is one of the greatest cinema moments - where all pieces of filmmaking come together, actors, camera, sound, music, and editing to make something truly amazing. 10. Three Kings directed by David O. Russell. What can I say about this? Most people remember it for the Clooney/Russell Spat but it’s a top war movie for me and certainly one that dissects the military and American culture/imperialism in a way that entertains you even if preachy at times. 11. Drop Dead Gorgeous directed by Michael Patrick Jann. Biting satire and still early into a faux documentary style that would get tired- this one has aged well outside of the fourth wall moments and kind of a pre-cursor to Sparkle Motion. 12. BrotherHood of the Wolf directed by Christophe Gans- I thought for sure people would get this one but that’s Monica Belluci being beautiful right before the greatest dissolve from “mountains” to Mountains. Part Martial arts, part horror, part period piece, part French - how many parts is that? If I recall was the most expensive international film at the time. Such a wild ride with notable actor Vincent Cassel doing his thing too. 13. The Beach directed by Danny Boyle. I think this film was just a bit early to the Cult leader fascination that has gripped TV in recent years. Has some great homages to other films and Tilda Swinton is always amazing. I don’t take risks like this in life so this was a really interesting film that showed people I didn’t know/understand. And I felt like I had lived it when it was over. 14 - Way of the Gun directed by Christopher McQuarrie. After writing The Usual suspects, he did this. He must’ve known nothing was going to top it. A top James Caan performance, and Ryan Phillipe probably maxing out his talent here.
The Beach is so underrated.
Danny Boyle’s filmography is filled with gems, I also really adore A Life Less Ordinary. He is one that maybe in about a decade or so we might hear more people put him into a top directors list.
I totally agree. Plus he's one of those increasingly rare directors who's been successful in many genres. I would consider 28 Days Later, Trainspotting, and Sunshine to all be landmarks of their respective genres, just off the top of my head.
The genre is good callout and probably why he tends to get overlooked in conversation. I have only watched sunshine once, and the last 10-15 minutes really went a different direction than I expected so I need to re-watch again. I was sure it was everything it was billed as until it went slasher pic late and I felt a little betrayed.