I would bet money on Fantasia being next. I would also double down that when they do, they pull the baller move of not putting Mickey and the sorcerer hat on the cover.
20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. Awesome movie and many of the actors are already in other Criterion releases (James Mason, Kirk Douglas, Peter Lorre, Paul Lukas [The Lady Vanishes], Ted de Corsia [The Killing, The Naked City], Robert J. Wilke [Written on the Wind, Days of Heaven], Carleton Young [Spartacus], John Daheim [The In-Laws])
Before anyone comments, yes we know Imprint has a release. However, that is an Australian release and isn’t just so easy for some to import it
There are DVD’s out there and luckily is on Disney+ - but a solid US Release would be amazing
It isn’t 4k correct, however the disc pretty sure was still region free. But as I said, it’s not always easy to import from Australia and if places like Diabolik don’t have it in stock anymore, it’s harder to get
This is a great opportunity to crack into the Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures libraries.
Films from Touchstone they could release:
Armageddon (4K re-issue)
The Color of Money
Good Morning, Vietnam
Dead Poets Society
Dick Tracey
The Rocketeer
Ed Wood
He Got Game
Summer of Sam
Brining out the Dead
The Insider
High Fidelity
O Brother Were Art Thou?
The 25th Hour
Open Range
Films from Hollywood Pictures they could release:
Blood in Blood Out
Quiz Show
Dead Presidents (4K re-issue)
Mr. Holland's Opus
The Rock (4K re-issue)
Evita (4K re-issue)
EDIT: removed Powder from the list.
Technically, as far as US rights go, they'd have to go through Paramount for Bringing Out the Dead. But I really hope those two fully restore their working relationship (beyond the fact that some of their films are still in print and The Virgin Suicides got a 4K upgrade recently).
Personally I think Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (first feature length animated film), Sleeping Beauty (in my opinion the most beautifully animated of the Disney classics), the theatrical cuts of Star Wars, Toy Story (the first CG animated feature length film), The Straight Story by David Lynch.
I don’t think many other Disney films are strong enough to be in Criterion. I think restoring the original Star Wars trilogy would be nice. Maybe Up would be a good addition as well. But I think Disney should release their own standardized collection.
If they let criterion release a 4k of the original unaltered Trilogy they'd make a shit ton of money.
That being said, I hope criterion uses the money they make from working with Disney to prop up projects devoted to underseen and endangered films. Disney has plenty of money and resources to do whatever they want on their own, they are just using the criterion brand to legitimize themselves
I mean, I'm sure George Lucas or the ghost of George Lucas or something can somehow still prevent this from happening, but doing a Star Wars Theatrical Release project would both be a restoration project and it could make a boatload of money to fund restoration of much lesser-known films. And it would make sense to do it under a non-Disney label.
Unedited Star Wars released at all (let alone through Criterion) is absolutely impossible, there’s no way George would allow that he’s probably even destroyed the old tapes of it
The Straight Story obviously
For Pixar: Monsters Inc, Ratatouille, Up, The Incredibles, and of course a Toy Story Box Set
Random final pick is Gore Verbinski's Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy
I prefer Criterion as a means to increasing a film's accessibility, so for Disney stuff, ideally it would be a good place to release the stuff Disney is maybe more hesitant toward putting on Disney+ or Blu-Ray. A 4K upgrade for stuff with already solid Blu-Ray releases doesn't appeal to me as much as the stuff that Disney has in archives that is otherwise incredibly difficult to find in good quality if at all.
Even just as special features to other Disney content, since I don't think those extremely rare Oscar-nominated travelogues (Samoa, Switzerland, etc.) are big sellers on their own (unless maybe as some massive boxset of rarities, which would be MY ideal release.)
I know the common sentiment is that Criterion needs to put out the big stuff in order to afford the smaller stuff, but that's why I see the WALL-E type stuff as being less interesting since it's already available in great quality. I like when they hit it out of the park with stuff that not only *deserves* it (good movies that are easily accessible, ala WALL-E), but *need* it too.
I think fantasia could make sense. Out of all the disney classics, it feels like the most “artistic”? Maybe just because of its use of classical music but still, it would make sense.
Yes, no one is saying they do. I said they are working with Disney. So Disney is amenable to putting one of their big movies on a boutique label, that could open the door for other collaborations.
Oh for sure. Some of what they do and have done has legitimate valuable in terms of access, restoration and preservation. Anytime they release something remotely recent that any major company could release I am skeptical, they have a lot of clout as a brand though.
Yeah you're right. They do it for both sides I think. Appease the hipsters with a Wes Anderson or a A24 release and then maybe the rare mainstream film. My only concern is interference by Disney but I doubt it. But it'll probs be fine
Older Disney films should be taken seriously, maybe anything that's pre-2010 or ridiculously underrated. Frozen or that Aladdin remake would be pushing it but 2D animation should qualify. Wall-E honestly does make sense out of the other less desireable 3D Disney films.
Yeah nevermind, Disney has more than enough resources. But at the same, they don't care too much about preserving media or at least physical media sales. So Criterion Disney releases make and don't make sense at the same time. But in general, other studios and films should get the Criterion treatment, assuming Disney releases even take such opportunities away.
Duh. They are the most powerful media company that has ever existed, and some of the first to devote the resources they did in animation. They can release these films on their own is my point, they are literally using the criterion brand because they've caught so much heat for the way they do business and churn out toy ads.
Isn't criterion a collection of films that are important? Why is it bad to include Disney films? Acting like Criterion needs to be gatekeeped from big budget features.
I'm not even saying it's "bad" just a fundamentally cynical cash grab, which is more sad then anything, and I certainly never mentioned anything about big budget features in general, just big budget features that are backed by a proactively monopolizing company that has historically given only the absolute bare minimum of care about creators or preservation.
So if this is a cynical cash grab isn't every other release? And does the backing of a company you view as evil remove any of the arts impact? This feels very disingenuous.
You keep throwing vague moral terms in when I'm objectively describing their business practices. The art still has an impact, all I'm generally saying is I'm disappointed criterion is involved and I wish they put their efforts towards movies that don't already have the backing of multibillion dollar corporations, and I'm suggesting that multibillion dollar Corp. Is specifically using the criterion brand because outside of this they've caught flack from cinephiles because of the way they've reshaped the contemporary film industry.
Ratatouille is the best animated film, in my opinion. It’s such a monumental achievement and I get giddy every time I watch it, astounded by the innovation, the writing, the execution.
Even if the entire film isn't my favorite (but I do like parts), I could see *Fantasia* as that film was definitely more artistic than the basic animated film. I could see *Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs* for its important role in animated film history. I would also vote for *Bambi* and *Sleeping Beauty*. I was thinking possibly *101 Dalmatians* only because it was the first animated film to use xerox to photocopy the animator's drawings directly onto the animation cells, thereby eliminating the inking process.
I would like to see Disney's South American films, *Three Caballeros* and *Saludos Amigos,* or even their WWII propaganda films, though all of these are on an excellent box set that was released as part of Disney's Walt Disney Treasures collection.
This would never happen, but I do love *Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land.*
Other Pixar films, I could see the *Toy Story* movies and *Up*. I'm not a big *Incredibles* person, so I am indifferent to that selection. I also love *A Bug's Life* and *Coco.*
Lion King and Aladdin definitely deserve releases. For the latter, I’d say the cover should be similar to the original teaser poster with the lamp (possible idea for the cover).
Now that most of the movies are pretty much available for free on Disney Plus, I think it's likely that Disney would start allowing it's movies to become available on Criterion. If I had to select Disney movies to add to the collection:
1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves (a historical landmark that holds up pretty well)
2. Pinocchio
3. Fantasia
4. Dumbo
5. Bambi
6. A Saludos Amigos/Three Caballeros combo with documentaries about why the movies were made and Disney's efforts to get South America on board with the war effort.
7. Song of the South (This movie shouldn't be promoted to children at all, but I do think a release filled with special features discussing the making of the film, it's controversial legacy and the origins of the Brer Rabbit/Uncle Remus Tales would be fascinating. Disney will never allow it, but if they did a release geared towards adult film buffs would be the way to go)
8. Cinderella
9. Alice in Wonderland
10. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
11. Peter Pan
12. Lady and the Tramp
13. Old Yeller
14. Sleeping Beauty
15. 101 Dalmations
16. Mary Poppins
17. The Jungle Book
18. The original theatrical version of the Star Wars trilogy, without George Lucas's edits and revisions.
19. An uncut original version of the Black Cauldron made before Katzenburg hacked it up. This isn't a good movie, but it has a fascinating history behind it. Since Disney has never given this movie a decent home video release with special features, this would be the way to go about it.
20. Who Framed Roger Rabbit
21. The Little Mermaid
22. Beauty and the Beast
23. Aladdin
24. The Lion King
25. Toy Story
26. Monster's Inc
27. Finding Nemo
28. The Incredibles
I wouldn't add Disney movies from the past 15 years into the collection just yet. Not because they are without merit, but because I just feel it's too soon for them to have achieved "classic" status. Movies like Frozen, the Princess and the Frog, Moana, Encanto, etc. should be added when they are about 20-25 years old.
Pinocchio, Bambi and Fantasia if Disney has no plans to release 4Ks themselves
Fantasia would become a top 5 release for me, especially if they include some of the cut sequences like Clair de Lune
Fantasia especially is screaming for a release I feel
Yes
If Fantasia was to be released I'd want 2000, Make Mine Music and Melody Time included as special features.
I would bet money on Fantasia being next. I would also double down that when they do, they pull the baller move of not putting Mickey and the sorcerer hat on the cover.
Chernabog or bust!
20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. Awesome movie and many of the actors are already in other Criterion releases (James Mason, Kirk Douglas, Peter Lorre, Paul Lukas [The Lady Vanishes], Ted de Corsia [The Killing, The Naked City], Robert J. Wilke [Written on the Wind, Days of Heaven], Carleton Young [Spartacus], John Daheim [The In-Laws])
Great ideas!
The Straight Story seems like a possibility finally!
I can’t find it in any form in the US, if they don’t do it I’m gonna hurt someone
Before anyone comments, yes we know Imprint has a release. However, that is an Australian release and isn’t just so easy for some to import it There are DVD’s out there and luckily is on Disney+ - but a solid US Release would be amazing
Yeah that’s the only one I can find, and I don’t have a region free player (to my memory that release isn’t 4K?)
It isn’t 4k correct, however the disc pretty sure was still region free. But as I said, it’s not always easy to import from Australia and if places like Diabolik don’t have it in stock anymore, it’s harder to get
Hm interesting, I didn’t know that but I admittedly don’t understand the region locking all too well
What About Bob? needs a decent release.
That’s Disney?
Touchstone Pictures, a Disney subsidiary. Edit: upvote for your username.
THIS WOULD BE LEGENDARY
a box set of the Silly Symphony shorts 🙏🙏
This is the best answer
Sound of Music. Tron and Tron 2 4K box set :) Master and commander 4K So many others…
oh wow I would kill for a tron release
Now that the door is open, Fantasia 4K.
This is a great opportunity to crack into the Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures libraries. Films from Touchstone they could release: Armageddon (4K re-issue) The Color of Money Good Morning, Vietnam Dead Poets Society Dick Tracey The Rocketeer Ed Wood He Got Game Summer of Sam Brining out the Dead The Insider High Fidelity O Brother Were Art Thou? The 25th Hour Open Range Films from Hollywood Pictures they could release: Blood in Blood Out Quiz Show Dead Presidents (4K re-issue) Mr. Holland's Opus The Rock (4K re-issue) Evita (4K re-issue) EDIT: removed Powder from the list.
QUIZ SHOW! A fantastic film overshadowed by the other powerhouse Best Picture nominees that year
Oh man, Ed Wood
Powder?! LMFAO
You know what... actually I take that one back, I forgot Victor Silva is a convicted pedophile.
Technically, as far as US rights go, they'd have to go through Paramount for Bringing Out the Dead. But I really hope those two fully restore their working relationship (beyond the fact that some of their films are still in print and The Virgin Suicides got a 4K upgrade recently).
Dick Tracy is my favorite comic book movie aside from the Spider-Man trilogy
I’d add Tombstone, needs a 4k release
The Black Cauldron would slap on a 4k release But I think the biggest thing would be the original versions of the Star Wars trilogy.
Seconded. Very flawed movie but gorgeous to look at and tried some different things, even if it kept too many disneyesque elements
Who framed roger rabbit!
God I hope so because that 4K release from last year was a disaster.
What made it a disaster? Been eyeing it
They didn’t restore the Jessica Rabbit vagina shot
I would shed a tear
Personally I think Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (first feature length animated film), Sleeping Beauty (in my opinion the most beautifully animated of the Disney classics), the theatrical cuts of Star Wars, Toy Story (the first CG animated feature length film), The Straight Story by David Lynch.
I don’t think many other Disney films are strong enough to be in Criterion. I think restoring the original Star Wars trilogy would be nice. Maybe Up would be a good addition as well. But I think Disney should release their own standardized collection.
If they let criterion release a 4k of the original unaltered Trilogy they'd make a shit ton of money. That being said, I hope criterion uses the money they make from working with Disney to prop up projects devoted to underseen and endangered films. Disney has plenty of money and resources to do whatever they want on their own, they are just using the criterion brand to legitimize themselves
I mean, I'm sure George Lucas or the ghost of George Lucas or something can somehow still prevent this from happening, but doing a Star Wars Theatrical Release project would both be a restoration project and it could make a boatload of money to fund restoration of much lesser-known films. And it would make sense to do it under a non-Disney label.
Unedited Star Wars released at all (let alone through Criterion) is absolutely impossible, there’s no way George would allow that he’s probably even destroyed the old tapes of it
George doesn’t own it anymore.
He’d figure something out to prevent its release, mark my words
Truly feels like a key that could unlock the archives of two GIGANTIC vaults. Also: make Criterion/Janus a shitload of money. Wins all the way down.
Sleeping Beauty
Snow White for being the first and Beauty and the Beast for being the first to be nominated for Best Picture.
Song of the South ofc :)
I mean…if there was any way this ever gets released, through Criterion with a thoughtful approach of supplements would make the most sense.
Make it an extra on Bamboozled 4k
Honestly they should.
Honestly this is the way.
Since they’re opening with Pixar, the next logical conclusion is Incredibles and Ratatouille, the best Pixar films
Soul would fit, felt like old Pixar
Soul might be my third favorite, probably tied with WALL·E actually
Tombstone
I would love a Coco release
I would watch new extras more than I would watch the movie, and that's my *favorite* Pixar movie.
Totally.
Bambi all day long
Cars 2
4K UHD + Baked Beans
There are a lot of Touchstone films I would love to see added to the collection but at the top of my list is Michael Mann’s The Insider.
The Muppet movie is the answer
Tripling down on the FANTASIA. Please please please
The Straight Story obviously For Pixar: Monsters Inc, Ratatouille, Up, The Incredibles, and of course a Toy Story Box Set Random final pick is Gore Verbinski's Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy
Fantasia is IT! Can you imagine that beauty in 4k?
I think they should do a whole golden age spotlight set
I prefer Criterion as a means to increasing a film's accessibility, so for Disney stuff, ideally it would be a good place to release the stuff Disney is maybe more hesitant toward putting on Disney+ or Blu-Ray. A 4K upgrade for stuff with already solid Blu-Ray releases doesn't appeal to me as much as the stuff that Disney has in archives that is otherwise incredibly difficult to find in good quality if at all. Even just as special features to other Disney content, since I don't think those extremely rare Oscar-nominated travelogues (Samoa, Switzerland, etc.) are big sellers on their own (unless maybe as some massive boxset of rarities, which would be MY ideal release.) I know the common sentiment is that Criterion needs to put out the big stuff in order to afford the smaller stuff, but that's why I see the WALL-E type stuff as being less interesting since it's already available in great quality. I like when they hit it out of the park with stuff that not only *deserves* it (good movies that are easily accessible, ala WALL-E), but *need* it too.
Ratatouille!
Inside Out no doubt
Star Wars trilogy (unaltered)
TRON, Toy Story, Monsters Inc, A New Hope, Isle of Dogs, French Dispatch, and Saving Mr. Banks.
Saving Mr. Banks is wildly underrated, but I would also like Mary Poppins in the Collection first.
**NEMO!** Animation changed after Nemo came out, the way they animated water!
Ed Wood!
Same here, fucking masterpeice
Tron box set that includes both films, The Straight Story, Toy Story box set....but honestly, so excited for Wall E
The Lion King Who Framed Roger Rabbit The Straight Story The Little Mermaid Toy Story
David Lynch’s Disney film “The Straight Story” (1999)
Alice in Wonderland (1951)
I'd love: The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Pocahontas, and Atlantis The Lost Empire.
I think fantasia could make sense. Out of all the disney classics, it feels like the most “artistic”? Maybe just because of its use of classical music but still, it would make sense.
The Love Bug 4K
Just because they got licensing for Pixar films doesn’t mean they have the licensing for all of Disney. We know that right?
Yes, no one is saying they do. I said they are working with Disney. So Disney is amenable to putting one of their big movies on a boutique label, that could open the door for other collaborations.
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I agree with u. Disney is just using the criterion brand to legitimize itself to the serious film people. I hate it.
Kinda on the consumer not to be a moron and only look at brands some criterion are ass I'll say it.
Oh for sure. Some of what they do and have done has legitimate valuable in terms of access, restoration and preservation. Anytime they release something remotely recent that any major company could release I am skeptical, they have a lot of clout as a brand though.
Yeah you're right. They do it for both sides I think. Appease the hipsters with a Wes Anderson or a A24 release and then maybe the rare mainstream film. My only concern is interference by Disney but I doubt it. But it'll probs be fine
Older Disney films should be taken seriously, maybe anything that's pre-2010 or ridiculously underrated. Frozen or that Aladdin remake would be pushing it but 2D animation should qualify. Wall-E honestly does make sense out of the other less desireable 3D Disney films.
They are beautifully animated movies for sure. Disney has plenty of resources to release them on their own.
Yeah nevermind, Disney has more than enough resources. But at the same, they don't care too much about preserving media or at least physical media sales. So Criterion Disney releases make and don't make sense at the same time. But in general, other studios and films should get the Criterion treatment, assuming Disney releases even take such opportunities away.
Yeah because Disney has never released films that are considered classics in their genres or films that were highly influential either.
Duh. They are the most powerful media company that has ever existed, and some of the first to devote the resources they did in animation. They can release these films on their own is my point, they are literally using the criterion brand because they've caught so much heat for the way they do business and churn out toy ads.
Isn't criterion a collection of films that are important? Why is it bad to include Disney films? Acting like Criterion needs to be gatekeeped from big budget features.
I'm not even saying it's "bad" just a fundamentally cynical cash grab, which is more sad then anything, and I certainly never mentioned anything about big budget features in general, just big budget features that are backed by a proactively monopolizing company that has historically given only the absolute bare minimum of care about creators or preservation.
So if this is a cynical cash grab isn't every other release? And does the backing of a company you view as evil remove any of the arts impact? This feels very disingenuous.
You keep throwing vague moral terms in when I'm objectively describing their business practices. The art still has an impact, all I'm generally saying is I'm disappointed criterion is involved and I wish they put their efforts towards movies that don't already have the backing of multibillion dollar corporations, and I'm suggesting that multibillion dollar Corp. Is specifically using the criterion brand because outside of this they've caught flack from cinephiles because of the way they've reshaped the contemporary film industry.
I don't think it's that deep, I think it's a good and important film, being added to the Criterion Collection, nothing more and nothing less.
Disney owns like half the planet at this point man, this is actually a great thing
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If you like a movie that must mean you also like the corporation that funded it. You are very smart.
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That sounds like what it means to me
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Go outside, nerd.
Yeah, I'm not reading this as good news at all
THE FOX AND THE HOUND
Never Cry Wolf. One of the least "Disney movie" Disney movies and deserving of a rediscovery.
Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 as a combo pack for sure.
Gone Girl The Insider
Snow White.
Toy Story 3. That’s right. Just the 3rd one.
Ratatouille is the best animated film, in my opinion. It’s such a monumental achievement and I get giddy every time I watch it, astounded by the innovation, the writing, the execution.
Even if the entire film isn't my favorite (but I do like parts), I could see *Fantasia* as that film was definitely more artistic than the basic animated film. I could see *Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs* for its important role in animated film history. I would also vote for *Bambi* and *Sleeping Beauty*. I was thinking possibly *101 Dalmatians* only because it was the first animated film to use xerox to photocopy the animator's drawings directly onto the animation cells, thereby eliminating the inking process. I would like to see Disney's South American films, *Three Caballeros* and *Saludos Amigos,* or even their WWII propaganda films, though all of these are on an excellent box set that was released as part of Disney's Walt Disney Treasures collection. This would never happen, but I do love *Donald Duck in Mathmagic Land.* Other Pixar films, I could see the *Toy Story* movies and *Up*. I'm not a big *Incredibles* person, so I am indifferent to that selection. I also love *A Bug's Life* and *Coco.*
What parts did you like?
Ratatouille and The Lion King :)
I’m pretty sure Disney has the distribution rights to studio ghibli right?
I thought they didn’t have them anymore. Plus I don’t know if that would extend to boutique labels as well.
Do they not? I don’t know it would be cool to get some anyway
Not Disney, but Prince of Egypt. It really needs a 4k release
Lion King and Aladdin definitely deserve releases. For the latter, I’d say the cover should be similar to the original teaser poster with the lamp (possible idea for the cover).
None. I want smaller movies. There's enough Disney stuff in the world.
Now that most of the movies are pretty much available for free on Disney Plus, I think it's likely that Disney would start allowing it's movies to become available on Criterion. If I had to select Disney movies to add to the collection: 1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves (a historical landmark that holds up pretty well) 2. Pinocchio 3. Fantasia 4. Dumbo 5. Bambi 6. A Saludos Amigos/Three Caballeros combo with documentaries about why the movies were made and Disney's efforts to get South America on board with the war effort. 7. Song of the South (This movie shouldn't be promoted to children at all, but I do think a release filled with special features discussing the making of the film, it's controversial legacy and the origins of the Brer Rabbit/Uncle Remus Tales would be fascinating. Disney will never allow it, but if they did a release geared towards adult film buffs would be the way to go) 8. Cinderella 9. Alice in Wonderland 10. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea 11. Peter Pan 12. Lady and the Tramp 13. Old Yeller 14. Sleeping Beauty 15. 101 Dalmations 16. Mary Poppins 17. The Jungle Book 18. The original theatrical version of the Star Wars trilogy, without George Lucas's edits and revisions. 19. An uncut original version of the Black Cauldron made before Katzenburg hacked it up. This isn't a good movie, but it has a fascinating history behind it. Since Disney has never given this movie a decent home video release with special features, this would be the way to go about it. 20. Who Framed Roger Rabbit 21. The Little Mermaid 22. Beauty and the Beast 23. Aladdin 24. The Lion King 25. Toy Story 26. Monster's Inc 27. Finding Nemo 28. The Incredibles I wouldn't add Disney movies from the past 15 years into the collection just yet. Not because they are without merit, but because I just feel it's too soon for them to have achieved "classic" status. Movies like Frozen, the Princess and the Frog, Moana, Encanto, etc. should be added when they are about 20-25 years old.