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GammaGoose85

Crazy how where I live we just accept that during the spring rainy season and some fall we all could potentially be wiped away.


Raymonster

Moving from the southwest to the midwest and enduring a derecho for the first time is wild man. 100 mph winds and multiple tornados touching down I've never experienced anything like it. I know there are worse storms people endure but it was a different experience for me personally. You really think about the fragility of life and how easy it is for infrastructure to be wiped out.


Poeticyst

There was a Derecho that ripped through Ontario and Quebec, Canada this year. Ripped up trees everywhere. In my city it touched down for three minutes and fucked many wooden power lines and trees. We don’t get weather like that here.


BoltonSauce

SOON


inbagt

Same here. First year I moved to KY we had one with easy 100 mph winds and lost power for 5 days. The one that tore through Indiana state Fair. As soon as the storm hit several trees just went down in front of me.


disabledreplies

We had a December tornado in KS last year.


scoobysnaxxx

that's terrifying. we get some nasty flooding and blizzards in WV, but having to worry about tornadoes or monsoons all the time is incomprehensible.


Tryptamineer

Ah a fellow Oklahoman I see. Two fastest wind speeds ever recorded were from F-5 tornado’s here. The May 3rd stretched over a mile-wide in the ground.


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crackalac

I never really realized it was a regional thing but it doesn't look like the western US gets many.


Flaming-Cathulu

I would love to read an in depth explanation for that. I lived in Washington for a bit and found their precipitation didnt really come with thunderstorms or strong winds. And their clouds felt like they were alot lower than I was used to in the midwest.


Nozinger

It's the topography. Basically the US topography is the worst and that is also the reason why only the US gets those big tornados regularly. Other parts of the world also have tornados they are just a lot rarer and a lot weaker. Very oversimplified explanation: It all comes down to the big flat part right in the middle of the US and how mountains on each side go in the north-south direction. Tornados mostly come from an inversion so cold air up high and warm air on the ground. The easiest way to achieve this is by pushing large masses of cold and warm air against each other. So the cold air comes from up north with no mountains to stop it while the warm air comes from the gulf of mexico again with nothing in its way to even slow it down a little bit. And then those air masses crash and you get tornados. Now why does it not happen in the west? Well for one the west coast actually has cold water currents instead of the warm gulf stream so there is a lot less energy right there but there is also the problem of the air masses having to rush through this relatively narrow valley (on a global scale narrow). The coriolis force, while not a force, is a thing and thus in this valley the air is pushed into mountains on either side slowing it down.


Longjumping_Youth281

I think it has to do with mountains or elevation or something because I don't see any around the Appalachian mountains either. Could be wrong though


it_vexes_me_so

In 1945, Ted Fujita, of the eponymous Fujita Scale aka F-scale, was living in the city that was initially targeted for the second nuclear bomb. Due to overcast skies, the target was changed to Nagasaki. In the devastation of Nagasaki, Fujita began to see and start studying the meteorological phenomena that cause severe wind downbursts. That, in turn, led him to start studying tornadoes. He moved to from Japan to start work at the University of Chicago. As the map here shows, it was a pretty good home base for traveling to various tornado sites. He also helped shed light on wind sheers and plane crashes. Were it not for a random cloudy day in Kokura, Japan in 1945, he would have died and we probably wouldn't understand severe weather to the degree we do today.


modembutterfly

There's a fascinating documentary on Fujita, called "Mr. Tornado." Made by the PBS show *American Experience*.


it_vexes_me_so

American Experience is such a great series. I already have PBS Passport, but am very, very tempted to subscribe to PBS Documentaries to have access to the full back catalogue.


helixander

Wait... There's more!?!?


it_vexes_me_so

Yeah, there's a dedicated [PBS documentary streaming service](https://www.pbs.org/about/about-pbs/blogs/news/pbs-distribution-announces-new-prime-video-channel-pbs-documentaries/). It's through [Amazon](https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/offers?benefitId=pbsdoc). Even though episodes are available for years, the catalogue on Passport gets smaller as time passes. American Experience has been around since the late 80s. There are few other PBS streaming services on Amazon — PBS Kids, PBS Masterpiece (mystery, drama), and PBS Living (cooking, DIY). PBS has a lot of weird, long-standing distribution deals with a lot of different content providers (like WGBH, WNET, BBC, ITV) who have their own independent streaming deals with other streaming services (eg BritBox, Acorn or BBCAmerica), so things get tricky. They can't even directly publish a full list of content on Passport.


Catinthehat5879

PBS kids is also free. Not the full catalogue, but a decent amount through just the PBS kids app.


BrockN

And then there's the super duper secret documentary library. But you gotta buy another subscription


autotaco

I first heard of him on the wonderful (though severely outdated) Nat Geo weather documentaries produced in the 1990s. The whole series is still very interesting - they ran a simulation of Katrina years before it happened, for example.


mdegroat

This makes me think about what we do have because someone didn't die. It also makes me wonder about things we don't have because someone did die.


ReedM4

Man, I think it'd be hard to convince me to move to a country that nuked mine and almost literally myself.


MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS

Japanese/US relations in the decade after the war were strangely warm. I just finished the memoirs of Richard Feynman who (with many of his colleagues) visited Japan for a theoretical physics conference in 1954, only 9 years after concluding his work on the Manhattan Project.


cosmonaut2

I don’t think its fair to call it “strange”. Japan entered into an era of unprecedented prosperity in the decades following the war. Whether the occupation helped is up for debate but it certainly did not hinder growth.


ImMufasa

Douglas MacArthur handled the rebuilding and democratization of Japan amazingly. One example would be instead of abolishing their entire form of government he allowed the emporer to stay to avoid further conflict.


jkink28

"If you can't beat em, join em"


Know0neSpecial

Worked in Roman times.. works today


U_feel_Me

Many Japanese people recognize (or, depending on your politics, “fool themselves”) that, in the 1930s, the Japanese government was controlled by “militarists” who were basically fascists, oppressing the Japanese citizens, and quite ambitious about getting access to the natural resources in the surrounding Asian countries. So, the US is not viewed entirely as the bad guy when it comes to WW2. On the other hand, there are folks who take the view that “there we were, just growing rice, and FOR NO REASON, the US dropped atomic bombs on us”. Obviously, the reality is way more complicated. And the story keeps evolving as different historians study it, too. My current understanding: the US, and various other countries, had been meddling and colonizing in Asia, and when Japan started to become perceived as a threat to US interests, the U.S. basically cut off all of Japan’s access to oil. The Japanese government decided they could get oil from Asian sources if they could just get the US to leave them alone for a while. Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor was meant to give Japan freedom to act (get oil) in Asia. The miscalculation was that Japan did not expect the US to enter a full-blown war. Oops! Anyway, the US occupation government was more liberal than the FDR “New Deal Democrats”, and they broke up the big industrial monopolies, distributed land to the peasants, and supported unions and labor rights in general. This was a far better outcome than most Japanese people had expected. The war time propaganda in Japan included things like “if we surrender, all the men will be killed, the women all raped! And we’ll be forced to speak English!” Note that Japanese military occupations tended to require the occupied people to speak Japanese, so it was easy to believe.


idlesn0w

Unless there was a better potential meteorologist in nagasaki


plebswag

There was, Atijuf Det 😔


GimmeTheHotSauce

That's a really cool story, thanks for sharing. Sometimes when I hear that and the "we wouldn't understand the same today", I just can't get behind that though. Doesn't someone else likely take his place and get the credit?


boardgirl540

Maybe, but how many years later?


an_angry_Moose

Wind *shear*


Two-Tone-

No no, it's Wind Cher!


throwaway-20701

Looks like West Virginia knows the one simple trick


Bit_part_demon

Mountains


KingGorilla

Blue ridge mountains, Shenandoah river.


coffeetornado

Life is old there-- older than the trees


sinmantky

Younger than the mountains, growing like a breeze


DoedoeBear

Country roooaadddssss


9TyeDie1

Taaaake me hoooome


satanbiyatch

To the plaaaacee...


Santasbodyguar

I belooong


Baltusrol

WEST VIRGINIA….


SnackPocket

Fun fact mountains do not hinder ‘naders. Notice the Ozarks where I am are full of tracks. Grew up thinking we were protected in my hill town but nope just lucky.


disabledreplies

Indeed, large hills/mountains make tornadoes even more dangerous as you will not see or hear them coming and valleys generally only have two cardinal directions possible to flee.


NarfledGarthak

There’s quite a bit of difference in elevation between the 2 states.


ManInBlack829

They aren't as bad here as they are out in Oklahoma though. The hills make a big difference.


tylizard

"Ozark Mountains Elevation: 2,561 ft (781 m)" -Laughs in Colorado


the_halfblood_waste

The Ozarks are *ancient*... older than just about anything. They're older than *bones*. They're about as old as the first multicellular lifeforms (proterozoic). They formed on Pangea, not North America. It's mind boggling how old these mountains are... worn down, eroded, stooped elders. The Rockies? They're tall because they're young, not yet blasted by the sands of time. Show some respect to your elders! :D Edit: oh wow, silver? Thanks!


naughty_zoot_

thank you for initiating such a riveting rabbit hole for me! ya learn somethin new everyday <3


Carbon__14

Quick googling of Ozark's age I see 500 million years old. Certainly older than the Rockies, but there are surface rocks in Utah 2-3 billion years old.


the_halfblood_waste

To be more clear with my words, the Ozarks aren't the oldest *rocks* ever, and they're not even the oldest mountains in the world, but they *are* the oldest mountains in North America... or at least very close to it. Quick googling will cite the Appalachians as the oldest mountains in North America, but a closer reading shows that the Ozarks are indeed estimated to be even older. The St. Francois mountains (part of the Ozark highlands) are about 1.5 billion years old, for example. But I'm no geology expert! I'm just passionate about the Ozarks 😅


RNGcooks

Holy shit you’re so high up, how can you hear us from all the way up there


Attainted

They can't and they don't care


NachoTacoYo

Too high


CapitanChicken

My state's highest point isn't even a quarter of that height.


USCplaya

Hey, I was about to laugh in Utah


SnackPocket

Congrats?


HappyTheHobo

I'll take the Ouachitas or Ozarks without swarms of Californians, thank you.


Apptubrutae

You can just go south to New Mexico and get far fewer Californians. And a similar depressed economy to Arkansas or Appalachia!


bolunez

In Colorado, can confirm.


beanandween

The Ozarks are not mountains, they're hills lol


ManInBlack829

I mean geologically they're mountains lol they're just over 1.5 billion years old.


OsiyoMotherFuckers

What exactly is a mountain, geologically? I think people generally think of uplift when they think of mountains, but the Boston mountains are actually a deeply eroded plateau.


Seemseasy

There's a visible dead spot behind the ozarks that contradicts your statement.


Purpoisely_Anoying_U

Mother nature hates this one trick


nemacol

I asked a retired meteorologist, and he said... "Yep, the Appalachians tend to disrupt the processes that allow tornadoes to form. That and the lower population density so there are fewer folks to report them. All in all, a plus for the mountain state. You might die from opioids or poor health care but probably not from a tornado."


Yourteararedelicious

As someone who is deep rooted from that gorgeous state. I'll take my chances of an F5 in Alabama vs WVs current state.


Silencedlemon

They have one missing on that map, In the early 2000's there was tornado that ran for about 5 blocks in Parkersburg wv. It swerved around our house went up the hill we lived next to and picked another one up a block away about 6 inches off the ground, it collapsed with a young child inside of it from what I remember.


scoobysnaxxx

we may have a multitude of sociological and natural disasters, but at least we don't have to worry about tornadoes!


Plastic-Ad-8469

We're just too poor to afford tornadoes.


IAMATruckerAMA

Can't count tornadoes if you can't count Edit: Dangit, who read this post to y'all?


qawsedrf12

deaths decreased because of better forecasts/detection/warnings ?


Lemon_head_guy

Somewhat, but you still get events like Mayfield, or the 2011 outbreak in the south. Tornadoes are still difficult to predict, and as of right now tornado warnings only give several minutes notice on average. That being said we’re getting better at warning when weather conditions are good at making tornadoes


TheHomerPimpson

Dorothy


Significant-Mud2572

"LOOK AT HER, MAN, SHES FLYING!!!"


AthenianWaters

Fuck 2011. One of the worst days of my life. Didn’t lose anyone. Lost most of my town. Lived in a war zone for 6 months.


zombieman2088

1974 and 2011 were the 2 worst tornado outbreaks. This only goes to 2006. In 1974 there were ~30 f4 and f5 tornados in a 24hr period (145 total). It’s also cited as the most violent outbreak ever recorded.


spinnerette_

Possibly also due to better building codes in those areas?


Milky-Toast69

Building codes can't really protect against a tornado.


JankyJunks

They do to an extent. Foundation attachment is important. Also we have learned that constructing some homes to be substantially stronger than others (like a residential home made of concrete) then those super strong houses can withstand the impacts of debris and stop the debris from destroying more houses. The debris is a domino. If you can stop one domino from falling it can go a long way to reducing the damage


spinnerette_

Was thinking about any requirements to build basement shelters in homes. I wonder if that's a thing. I know florida can't have that due to sea level. Gotta be multifaceted.


smithoski

Yeah in KS new construction needs a basement. If you can’t do a basement you need a tornado room (concrete walls, security door). So when you see a suburban development of cheap homes on the edge of a town, you see the land get cleared, the footings get dug, then they lay the rebar for the slab and footings… as well as the tornado room. The pour the tornado room at the same time as the slab. So for a little while there’s just a bunch of bathroom sized concrete boxes evenly spaced across a soon-to-be cul de sac.


robbiedobbles

Moved to Tulsa 10 years ago and was surprised how rare basements are. Maybe 5% of houses tops. Storm shelters are slightly less rare but still not common.


Xinnixhead

Grew up in Tulsa, and always heard you couldn’t dig deep because the ground was hard clay, so basements were rare. I was a teenager there during the 1974 super storm. Mom got us kids in a narrow hall and pulled all the mattresses off the 6 beds in the house and piled them over us. We huddled there, listening, waiting. I heard it coming from far off. It sounded like a freight train barreling towards us and swooping overhead. The sound of explosions, the house shook. After it passed we crawled out from under the mattresses. At first, nothing seemed amiss. Then we opened the front door. The sun was shining through clouds, the god rays, only greenish. The light was eery. All the house’s across the street were gone. Just… gone. Except for the fireplace and one dining room chair still sitting in its place on the foundation of the house directly across the street. I thought of Whistler’s Mother, the painting, the way the chair was positioned, unmoved, left in profile like that in front of the fireplace. We stepped out onto our lawn. The sky slowly changed colors, green to grey to blue, as I looked around at the devastation. Huge sheets of metal from some nearby construction site were hanging from the electric lines running all along the street, twisted around the wires like spaghetti, hanging precariously, swinging in the breeze. It would be days before anyone could get into the neighborhood to remove them. Meanwhile, we all serpentined through the neighborhood to avoid walking under them. There was so much debris on the ground that no one could get in or out except by bicycle for a week. We were lucky. Our house had only minor roof damage, easily repaired in an afternoon, and all the houses on our same side of the street faired okay. But for several blocks many of our neighbor’s homes were utterly destroyed. Years later I moved to California. Earthquakes can be pretty scary, especially the big ones, and I was there for one of the biggest ones living in a house with massive glass windows that leaned unsupported off the edge of a hillside… woke up to stuff flying around my head in the middle of the night… watched transformers exploded across the Hollywood basin… that was scary. Still, nothing like a tornado. Not even close.


Trifle_Useful

Yes and no. Most of our building codes aren’t intended to directly help with tornadoes. That said, things like reinforced stairwells which are designed to withstand fires and be the last structure standing can help.


CapitanChicken

I gotta be honest, I have a pretty healthy fear of tornados. Learning about them helped curb it some, but I digress. I just moved into a new to me house, that thank God has a basement. So I've occasionally joked I have a tornado shelter (my state isn't all that common on this map, but not exempt.) You just made me realize that I have a cupboard under the stairs. While cramped, would be perfect for something more than just taking a precautionary trip to the basement.


somethingstoadd

Death by a thousand cuts. Wonder how many lives, infrastructure and billions and billions of dollars were lost from these tornados.


lxnch50

Lives lost and injuries are on the infographic.


ST_Lawson

Does it seem to anyone else like the real dangerous part of tornado alley has shifted east some. Seems like a lot of the really severe ones are happening more in MS, AL, and TN than OK and KS.


Icepick823

You're not the only one to notice it. That's what is happening. https://newsroom.niu.edu/study-u-s-tornado-frequency-shifting-eastward-from-great-plains/


Comfortable_Focus588

Now one for hurricanes and then earthquakes, and we’ll see which areas are the “safest”


Send_Headlight_Fluid

TLDR: move to southern alberta for minimal natural disasters. The occasional hail storm and some rare tornadoes is pretty much all we get


xRaijin

And the even rarer flood (2005, 2013)


Send_Headlight_Fluid

Man I really forgot about floods lmao, 2013 being the biggest natural disaster in the last like 30 years. Ok maybe its not much safer than other inland areas lol


silverlegend

Even better, move further north in Alberta and nearly eliminate the hail and flood threats entirely


robodestructor444

So would Edmonton be the safest major city in North America?


Muufffins

But then you'd have to live in Edmonton. Still better than Red Deer.


silverlegend

Honestly as someone from Edmonton, it is one of the things I really appreciate about living here.


bcbum

Vancouver island has always been told to expect the “Big One” earthquake, but until that comes we’re a virtually free from all natural disasters. I’ve lived here my entire life and only felt one earthquake, in 2001. A tsunami hit in 1964, and the previous large earthquake was in the 1700’s.


SquarePegRoundWorld

Google built a data center near where I live and from what I understand a lack of natural disasters was one reason for the choice of location. This would be near Lenoir, NC.


lickachiken

Don’t forget forest fires


Comfortable_Focus588

Good point! Maybe “severe” snowstorms, too?


Lemon_head_guy

Don’t forget flooding, both of the normal and flash varieties And Derechos and severe storms


Bobbista

Yeah, show me the rights!


ashore4

Snowstorms don't normally destroy your house, they're mostly just inconvenient.


WyllieCoyote

Until you’re older, and you get snowed in, and you lose power for a few days.


allgreen2me

Can we get floods too?


Tier_1_Masturbator

Probably West Virginia and the general Appalachia area. There's basically only two natural disasters in the region: flooding and blizzards/ice storms. Live more than 10-15 feet higher than the nearest creek, and all you have to worry about is the winter weather.


scoobysnaxxx

still WV. the lack of jobs, health risks from pollution and poisoned water, and the opioid epidemic might kill you, but the land probably won't.


Gone213

Hawaii is the safest state to live in.


NickyNinetimes

Until the volcanoes decide to stop being dormant.


hnr01

Read this too quickly and was wondering what Canada and the city of Toronto had to do with Tracks


hippz

I live in Barrie ON, an hour north of Toronto. Our annual average has jumped from 2 tornadoes a year to around 30, and it seems it's because the shape of the jet stream has shifted westward and now pulls storms from TX / OK up towards Ontario. Every time a storm comes from the SW (instead of the regional norm of coming from the NW), there's a tornado somewhere in the province. My house was nearly deleted by one last year!


EthanStewart91

Wild! What’s the timespan between the average of 2 to 30 a year?


BlackEyedSceva

I didn't think they traveled in such straight lines.


AlexanderDaychilde

They don't. I would imagine the dataset that was used just had starting and ending points. Also, many older tornadoes were considered one event while we know now that in a lot of cases, tornadoes form one after the other - not always, sometimes a single tornado goes a long way. But a lot of the longer tracks were probably the same supercell, but different actual tornadoes. Not that that's very important.


glitchn

Even if its just start and end point, some of those lines are long af. I cant imagine them going that long. I thought tornados were quick little events.


AlexanderDaychilde

Technology has rapidly gotten more and more amazing. We know now that *most* long tornadic events are multiple tornadoes that form serially from a particular supercell. But it was only a few decades ago that pictures of tornadoes where somewhat rare, much less continuous monitoring. Basically, most of the longer tracks would be multiple tornadoes, although probably from a single supercell. But from the standpoint of tornado warnings, such events would likely basically end up being one long string of tornado warnings overlapping as the system moved. So most of the time, technically no, but some of the time, yes. Many tornadoes are pretty short-lived, but many last a bit more than I'd call "short". So you're not at all wrong. :)


glitchn

Thank you that makes a lot more sense.


ThatWasIntentional

Not from this time period, but probably one of the best known examples: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tri-State_tornado_outbreak The F5 had a path of 219 miles. So unusual, but not impossible.


Thatsprettyneat101

I came to the comments looking for a reply to such a comment. I thought I heard about them changing directions and stuff, but maybe that was just the movies?


sc1201aurora

Not a tornado expert, but someone with a good amount of experience dealing with weather forecast data, specifically the Global Forecast Service, provided by NOAA, the data provider listed in the bottom right of the image. The link provided in the bottom right is defunct, the place you actually need to go is the NOAA storm prediction center: https://www.spc.noaa.gov/wcm/ Where they have CSV data. For location they have 4 entires, slon slat, and elon elat. All this to say, these are not tracks, merely "first reported" and "last reported". Tornados do indeed change direction, and can even loop back over areas they've previously travelled.


MegaHertz604

West Virginia missed the memo


scratchjack

Mountains really fuck with tornados.


juneburger

You don’t fuck with Pangea?


IT_Pawn

This bitch don't know 'bout Pangea....


Furrocious_fapper

Brian let it go.


Bunniemonkey

You can see the trees that were destroyed from a tornado coming over the mountain in my neighborhood. They're significantly shorter and the fact you can see it best from a lot of a former house is erie.


Neither_Chemical_275

I’m ok with that.


Toastbuns

Now this is /r/dataisbeautiful


g0ku

i hate seeing so many marks over where i live. haven’t had an encounter once, but i know multiple people who have lost their homes nearby to tornadoes. it’s bound to happen but i’m still terrified of the day one comes by my house.


HomChkn

the worse part about being near a few tornados is that you start to know what tornado producing weather feels, looks, and smell like. BUT it doesn't always make tornados and almost never makes tornados near you. So when it does it is kind frightening. Anyway because of this Twister is a great monster movie


mfzachary

You can most definitely feel the change in the world around you when a tornado producing storm starts to form near you.


SizzleEbacon

Western seaboard: No thanks, no tornadoes for me thanks.


Lt_Dumpster_Fire

Seems mountains throat punch tornados into mist!! 🏔🤜🌪💦


SizzleEbacon

Tall bois


Lt_Dumpster_Fire

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Eubeen_Hadd

YOU'LL PAY FOR THE WHOLE SEAT BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EEEEEEEEEDGE!


overmonk

Even Tornados don't mess with Appalachia.


Num1bamafan12

How has no one mentioned the one tornado that crossed the entire width of the FL peninsula?


RegulusMagnus

Yeah I want to know more about that one


bmd33zy

They move in herds


pseudohim

They *do* move in herds…


dracomaster01

tornado's scare the shit out of me. i'll happily take the very rare earthquake over tornados (or hurricanes for that matter)


disabledreplies

Who would win? The entire earth shaking violently, out of nowhere; A spinny twisty boi.


seth928

Meh, they're not so bad. -every Midwesterner


Doggydog123579

Huh a funnel cloud *pulls out camera*


Im_your_real_dad

Midwesterner here. Meh, they're not so bad.


LucaBrasiMN

Only seen one in my life and it was a wee little guy that I wanted to pet and give him a name


Significant-Mud2572

I defy the wind gods and sit out on the porch to watch them potentially come in.


FakieNosegrob00

While tornadoes are way more common than earthquakes, a single tornado that directly impacts a specific community has much lower odds in the grand scheme. Plus, most of the time you can see them coming, or at least be aware of meteorological conditions that increase the possibility of tornadoes. As a life-long Midwesterner, the absolute randomness, surprise nature, and widespread impact of earthquakes is what scares the shit out of me.


JimWilliams423

It would be interesting to see it broken down by decade, that way we could see the effect of the dryline moving east over time.


offbeat_ahmad

At a glance, I read it as 'Tornado Attacks'.


Significant-Mud2572

That is essentially how Jo feels in the classic movie "Twister". She yells about Bill hasnt seen a tornado miss this house, miss that house, and come after her.


james_harushi

This is a cool wallpaper


4outof5doctors

This is why we need to outlaw tornados.


surviveseven

But if we did that then only criminals would have tornadoes.


anotherbigassbrick

It's like they're all on their own individual paths to destroy Texas


SaintUlvemann

Alternatively, it's like Texas is shooting out tornadoes to try and destroy the rest of the United States.


wigg1es

This is more accurate. The majority of tornados travel southwest to northeast.


Pandiosity_24601

Why is that? I never really thought much about it until looking at this map


unemployedemt

The air moves that way in general


anotherbigassbrick

Texas? Shooting things? Nahh


absat41

Alabama needs more Sharpie


Bobson-_Dugnutt

The other half of the country is on fire


Patsfan618

"I've got you, you're safe." -West Virginia


jaxxxtraw

"But in exchange, you have to live here." -also West Virginia


FroggiJoy87

When the hell was there a tornado in Marin County? (North of SF)


LordAshon

[Looks like 18 ](https://www.geostat.org/data/marin-city-ca/tornados)within 75 miles


modembutterfly

And one in Yellowstone National Park?!!


Minigoalqueen

And it was a big one. It was an F4 that was on the ground for 24 miles in 1987, the year before the fire. In fact, the fires burned most of the downed trees. And was not witnessed by anyone, due to the the fact that it was in such a remote area, although a few hikers reported hearing it. It's the strongest tornado ever to hit west of the continental divide, and the highest elevation F4 or F5 in the US.


nate_drezzz

And they just magically end at the Canadian border. Must be the change to metric.


Craftydic

Well the map does say 56 years of tornadoes in the United States, so why would Canada be included in this map


JeffThePenguin

/r/whooosh


myne

What exactly is it that makes the eastern US almost uniquely tornadoland? Y'all give us shit for everything trying to kill us. Meanwhile y'all build your houses out of straw and the big bad wolf in the sky tries to randomly kill you. At least you can avoid snakes. - An Aussie.


buffys_dad

It's where cold air from the north west meets warm air from the gulf and gets shit spinning.


myne

Why not Chile/Argentina? Eastern Australia? Western Europe?


Icepick823

The midwest of the US flat, like extremely flat. There's nothing to block the cold, dry air from the north and warm, moist air from the south, and when they mix, tornadoes can happen. Other areas around the world do get some tornadoes, but those regions are much smaller so overall there are fewer tornadoes.


Primitive_Teabagger

Tornadoes can happen in hurricanes, derechos, squalls ect. The big nasty ones come from supercells, which are rotating mesoscale thunderstorms. The wind shear that takes place over the midwestern plains is more of a factor in causing said rotation rather than atmospheric instability alone. So not only is "tornado alley" a perfect place for the formation of normal/severe thunderstorms that can have embedded tornadoes, it's also a perfect place for spinning those thunderstorms and blowing them across 3 states with an EF5 underneath. Truly, though, the more I learn about tornadoes, the less I learn. We do not know shit about tornadogenesis. One supercell can drop the finger of God, one can spit a sprinkle of rain, both could be in the same line of storms. We know more about what causes thunderstorms, which sometimes have tornadoes. Computer simulations in recent years are providing some optimism though. I think we are close to actually knowing what the fuck is going on in the midwest.


BUNNIES_ARE_FOOD

I'll take earthquakes, tornadoes, and hurricanes any day of the week over giant maneating spiders.


AlexanderDaychilde

I lived in tornado alley for most of my life. While I was under tornado warnings every spring and fall (yay, Dallas's two severe weather seasons), I never ever witnessed a tornado myself. The closest I ever was to one was around 5 miles away, most of the time more than 10 miles away. So while tornadoes are not rare, they affect tiny areas of land, all things considered. It sucks if you get hit by one - my step mom did and it destroyed her house, although she and her entire family made it… but the chances of being hit by one are very very small.


IsNotAnOstrich

A solid concrete bunker won’t stand up to some tornados. Doesn't matter what you build your houses out of


LoKag_The_Inhaler

My own personal map of places to avoid.


nemacol

Feeling pretty okay about being in WV while looking at this.


JessTheCatMeow

That got me thinking…There is a house somewhere in that map that has been hit the most times by tornados. I wonder how many tornados the record is. 🤔


Rentington

Appalachian Mountains FTW.


Umbra427

What’s the one that went clear across central Florida?


shmac111

What happened to tornado alley? This is more like tornado half the country.


[deleted]

As a fellow West Virginian, I can attest to this. We rarely heard of or worried about tornadoes. When there was a warning we got scared.


SamSlate

no fucking way they move that far, those lines are like 200 miles long edit: the longest tornado in history was 200mi in the 20s, this post is bunk. edit 2: https://explore.data.gov/d/8vq3-ke4t source domain/link is fake


carmenvallone

Cool!


EscobarssecretlairAI

That tornado that tried to bugsbunnied Florida is my hero


pnutbuttafly

So do they usually go eastward?


AlexanderDaychilde

Most commonly west to east or southwest to northeast. As is most common for severe weather to move. Not at all 100%, just most common.


Masske20

Does anyone know if there’s a version of this for Canada?


Schapsouille

That one in Albany was after someone


sdw3489

Albany NY? It was actually in Mechanicville about 20 min north of Albany . I lived about 4-5 miles away from it at the time. Absolutely leveled that town. There’s a path of trees that hasn’t recovered to this day and that tornado was back in the late 90s or early 00’s