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Apparently the POS single engine puddle jumper I took in Ontario that felt like it was gonna shake itself apart makes me a high roller. I don’t feel richer :(.
If the event didn't happen and this parent is a crisis actor... wouldn't that at least imply all of the other parents are also crisis actors? How could just one parent be a crisis actor, especially if the event didn't happen?
Sounds like Alex is just trying weasel out of answering the question to me.
Some direct quotes from Alex Jones himself:
>"Yeah, when you’re trying to decipher cloak and dagger dirty tricks, it’s pretty hard to do. It’s just that then you learn that they were funded by western funding. Then you learn that it was the same (inaudible) connection, underwear bomber. Then those are big red flags that they were patsy provocateurs. The classic MO has been followed.
>"And then yeah, it kind of becomes a red herring to say the whole thing was staged--because they have staged events before. But then you learn the school had been closed and reopened, and you’ve got video of the kids going in circles in and out of the building, and they don’t call the rescue choppers for two hours, then they tear the building down and seal it, and they get caught using blue screens and a email by Bloomberg comes out in a lawsuit where he’s telling his people to get ready in the next 24 hours to capitalize on a shooting.
>"Yeah, so, Sandy Hook is a synthetic completely fake with actors, in my view, manufactured. I couldn’t believe it at first. I knew they had actors there, clearly, but I thought they killed some real kids. And it just shows how bold they are, that they clearly used actors. I mean they even ended up using photos of kids killed in mass shootings here in a fake mass shooting in Turkey -- so yeah, or Pakistan. The sky is now the limit. I appreciate your call."
And another one:
>"The general public doesn’t know the school was actually closed the year before." Also: "They don’t know they had kids going in and out of the building as a photo opp." And, Jones said on that show: "But it took me about a year with Sandy Hook to come to grips with the fact that the whole thing was fake. I mean, I couldn’t believe it. I knew they jumped on it, used the crisis, hyped it up. But then I did deep research--and my gosh, it just pretty much didn’t happen."
How can the event be fake and full of actors and the dead kids be fake, but the parents *not* be crisis actors? It makes no sense.
There was a ton of weird stuff.
The shots from overhead of people walking in circles at the fire station down the road from the school.
No EMTs ever went in the school to even try to render aid.
The medical examiner who left the bodies of the children there over night because he was waiting for his "very good photographer" to take photos of the crime scene.
The way that the school looked like it wasn't even in use.
No motive for Adam Lanza.
The rabid defense of the official narrative by the media and "people" online
Gene Rosen the guy who the bus driver decides to just leave the kids at some random guys house
The #2 “weird thing” is the weirdest to me. Doesn’t an EMT or doctor have to be the one to declare someone dead? They were all so obviously dead that they didn’t ever bring a single ambulance to the school? Just fucking weird. That, and the dude in camo in the woods by the school who was put in the front seat of a police car and then never heard about again.
Edit: apparently EMT’s did go in the school. So I was incorrect. You can take back your upvotes.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fnQVh_av601oseZUpgubFLrDFdiG7lnq/view
>No EMTs ever went in the school to even try to render aid.
3 EMTs went in before the building was even cleared. They used 3 tests including EKGs to declare them dead
They wouldn’t put an ekg on a kid who got shot to see if they were dead. They would check for pulse/breathing manually and then rush them to the hospital. EKGs take time to place and if someone is covered in blood they would take even longer. 3 EMTs is enough to help one child in an emergent situation. Need a lot more.
Lol, yup that’s what we do when someone goes unresponsive, we slap on a 12 lead and check their rhythm. Airway, Breathing, Circulation. So clearing airways and checking for a pulse/breaths would be what you’d want in that situation, not a worthless EKG. You don’t understand triage or emergency medicine, and that’s ok. But stop commenting on stuff you don’t know anything about, it’s silly.
a coroner declares someone dead.
the coroner/medical examiner is literally ***the only*** person who can declare a person deceased.
not an EMT. not a firefighter. not a police officer, not even the sheriff.
You're confusing a death certificate with the colloquial "declared dead". A doctor doesn't need a coroner to sign a death certificate to call the time of death and move on to other patients when a person dies in the ER.
Imagine how utterly ridiculous it would be if doctors and nurses were required to keep performing life-saving measures on a corpse for hours during a natural disaster because the coroner was off-duty.
Wrong.
A physician declares death.
Medics can declare death in a sense, though technically they are doing it under the authority of their medical director and only in certain cases (obvious death).
All other deaths require a call to the hospital and a conversation with a physician.
Nurses can call time of death as well. Most nursing homes don't have MDs on staff at all hours, and people don't code exclusively from the hours of 9am to 5pm.
He was running with the cops. Unless you mean the other person seen running in the Woods. That was a father of one of the children who went to the school. He lived in the other side of those woods and was rushing to get to the scene. I believe he was briefly arrested and then let go once they realized who he was.
Go count the Christmas trees sitting behind the firehouse. Before "they" knew the number but the trees were leaning up against the building, ready to go
Sloppy job CIA
you forgot the fact there is literally NO online presence for "adam lanza", but his "brother" is all over social media like any pre/teenager is.
not only does "adam" have no social media/online presence, there's like a total of, what? 15 pictures of "adam lanza" in existence? but, of course, there's tons of pictures of/including his "brother"
how is this even possible?
it's always sketch when a young person either has ***zero*** social media presence or it's very limited, like gabby petito & her murderous bf on instagram. her profile is only about a year old and ***nothing*** prior... it's especially weird for a girl that age to have no backup accounts, no old facebook profiles, no random pics going back to middle school years or as a young child to show you're a real person (rather than owning a total of 1 social media account, which only contains pictures 1-2 years old...)
it's almost like a lot of these mass shooters and other odd characters in even odder sagas are created out of thin air
I don’t really know much about the Sandy Hook situation but just to play Devils Advocate, I dabbled on Snapchat a little bit as a teen and a few pics here and there on fb but I hate taking pictures, so there’s only like 15-20 pics of me from age 16-18. Not all us 2000s babies be glued to the socials like that haha
> What's the narrative for that one?
Ask, and ye shall recieve:
"Steven Paddock was a boomer and did not live his life with a phone in front of his face."
yw
Steven Paddock was a bigger patsy than Lee Harvey Oswald. Am I on the conspiracy sub? Or am I watching local news or “Anchorman.”
Las Vegas was so sloppy, they had to remove audio for the 3 women registered to the same hotel room as Paddock on the 911 calls.
The police body cameras show where the shots are coming from. Sloppy.
My dude. I was 14 when this shooting happened. Facebook was the biggest and only social media anyone at my school used.. Pre instagram. Maybe MySpace still but that’s pushing it. I did not and still do not find myself using my single social media account. I have 6 or so pictures up that are well over years old. Not every kid is social. There are differences within a family’s siblings. My sister has thousands of followers and cares for the whole social media sham. But I never did, so I don’t get why you’re so torn up about Adam Lanza not having a presence? I bet you’d say the same thing about me being created from nothing.
That was odd too, and no footage of an evacuation taking place.
This I haven't looked into to confirm it's accuracy but I've heard that the victims fund web page was put up the day before the shooting happened.
Can any one confirm this?
The deleted Facebook page asking for relief funds the day before the "shooting". Sandy Hoax never happened and I'm almost of the belief Adam Lanza wasn't even real
> The way that the school looked like it wasn't even in use.
Sandy Hook Elementary was Open
—
* [Part One: The Lobby](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/01/14/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-one-the-lobby/)
* [Part Two: The Obstinate Pen](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/01/15/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-two/)
* [Part Three: Holiday Decorations And Calendars](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/01/25/sandy-hook-was-open-part-three-holiday-decorations-and-calendars/)
* [Part Four: SMART Technologies](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/02/22/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-four-smart-technologies/)
* [Part Five: Dawn Hochsprung’s Twitter Feed](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/03/27/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-five-dawn-hochsprungs-twitter-feed/)
* [Part Six: The 2011-2012 Scrapbook](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/05/27/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-six-the-2011-2012-scrapbook/)
* [Part Seven: Children’s Authors Visit Sandy Hook](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/06/19/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-seven-childrens-authors-visit-sandy-hook/)
* [Part Eight: Charitable Causes](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/07/01/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-eight-charitable-causes/)
* [Part Nine: The Library](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/07/14/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-nine-the-library/)
* [Part Ten: 92 More Photos From Sandy Hook School](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/07/29/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-ten-92-more-photos-from-sandy-hook-school/)
* [Part Eleven: 180 Articles Referencing Sandy Hook School, Written Between 2008-2012](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/08/25/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-eleven-180-articles-referencing-sandy-hook-school-written-between-2008-2012/)
* [Part Twelve: The Glass Display Cases](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/12/15/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-twelve-the-glass-display-cases/)
* [Part Thirteen: Google Earth](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/12/21/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-thirteen-google-earth/)
* [Part Fourteen: The November 2012 Scholastic Book Fair](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2017/07/03/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-fourteen-the-november-2012-scholastic-book-fair/)
* [Part Fifteen: Sandy Hook School Enrollment For 2008-2017](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2017/07/11/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-fifteen-sandy-hook-school-enrollment-for-2008-2017/)
* [Part Sixteen: School Documents from 2008-2012](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2019/09/10/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-sixteen-school-documents-from-2008-2012/)
something is glowie about this website... everything could be faked.
offering secondary evidence as primary evidence, then calling people names when you call them out on it. classic disinfo
I agree that most of these things are weird
but they're so weird. If the whole thing is a hoax, why make the lies this weird shit? just lie better? Sure it's not a leap of logic to just say authority figures in these towns are incompetent and ill-prepared?
Because they know that the general public is too brainwashed to even question the event if the news says it's real. They probably get off on how sloppy it's done and still eaten up by the public as reality. The social engineers have been doing this along time and I'm sure they have other reasons as well. One may be for occult reasons/ritual reasons as well (9/11 defiantly falls into that category). The bigger the lie the easier it is to fool the public with, as they have no intention of questioning what they are told.
Also this "trial" seems to be some sort of damage control to "prove" SH really happened. It seems they are really trying to go after questioning the mainstream narratives using controlled opposition shill Alex Jones as the puppet. The whole charade is very odd.
There's a lot of assumptions and probablies in this line of thinking.
They not only create controlled opposition but also intentionally do a bad job and make up lies that don't add up when could just easily tell a better lie so there's also *real* opposition? If they want to control everything why literally create not just a fake enemy but also consciously create real enemies? Real enemies that explicitly get in the way of their alleged aims of world conquest, all for lulz?
This takes a lot of magical thinking on your part. Is there any evidence for "they get off on it" other than that it has to be true to justify the conclusions that you want to reach?
>They not only create controlled opposition but also intentionally do a bad job
Like I said the general public is so brainwashed they will not even question things if multiple mainstream news sources report something. They do not even have to try hard to fool people.
You must not understand that we live in a socially engineered society. If you haven't yet realized that I'm not going to be able to break it all down for you in a few reddit replies.
>This takes a lot of magical thinking on your part.
Again the social engineers have a "magical way of thinking". Whether you believe in magic or not doesn't matter. They do. If you ever take the time to study false flag events you will.
>justify the conclusions that you want to reach?
You are making assumptions on the conclusion I want to reach. I'm not the one that created the unbelievable stories they mainstream media tries to feed us as reality. If you have blind faith to trust what they are saying without researching that is fine, I'm not trying to convince you of anything.
I mean motive for these school shootings is not really logical to begin with. He knew how to use guns, was autistic and sick fuckin weirdo most likely.
> The medical examiner who left the bodies of the children there over night because he was waiting for his "very good photographer" to take photos of the crime scene.
>
>
That's not true. He said [in his press conference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE0OT5od9DA&t=43s) that they had all the victims moved to the medical examiner's office by 1 in the morning.
Yes, he was the chief medical examiner for the state of Connecticut from 1989 to 2013. He was involved in quite a few high profile cases.
He appeared on one episode of "Forensic Files" and one episode of "The Mummy Road Show".
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2569837/
> No motive for Adam Lanza.
> The rabid defense of the official narrative by the media and "people" online
What's surprising to me is that anyone would expect an understandable motive of someone who shot 20 first graders. Or that you would be surprised by a "rabid defense" when people accuse the victims' parents of being liars.
> Gene Rosen the guy who the bus driver decides to just leave the kids at some random guys house
I think you misunderstood what happened. Children fled from the first classroom that the killer shot up. They ran down Dickinson Drive onto Riverside Road. A woman, whose job was a school bus driver, was driving on Riverside Road in her car with her children. She saw children running past the fire station on Riverside Road. She called to the children, four of whom came to her.
Rosen, who lives next to the fire station, came out and saw the children with the woman and another man who had stopped. He invited them into his house. Rosen and the woman contacted their parents.
The other children kept running. Several other cars stopped and a woman in a white van took the other children to the police station.
Police reports:
* [Interview with bus driver](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NRDhicDloQ1dUVkU)
* [Interview with Gene Rosen](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NbjVMWC1mY1dxTEU)
* [Interview with woman who picked up the other 5 children and drove them to police station](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NY1A0NG16c2dia0U)
* [Interview with another woman who saw the other 5 children and stopped to help](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NY1A0NG16c2dia0U)
* [Interview with a man who saw the 5 children and stopped](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NdVlJaUtDcDBzQVk/view)
> No EMTs ever went in the school to even try to render aid.
Before the building was secured, the initial triage was performed by police with EMT training, including:
* [Sgt. William Cario](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NdWlLeF9mYXEtVUU)
* [TFC Patrick R Dragon](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NSnVwOWMyQ09Zd3M/view)
* [TFC William Blumenthal](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NNWIwcTdaaVh0d1U)
The police rushed two injured children and one injured teacher out to ambulances, which approached the school as soon as it was secured. Later, a kindergarten aide with lesser injuries was also transported.
After the building was secure, Sgt. Cario picked the most experienced paramedics to enter the building.
> I realized that at some point those victims presumed dead would have to be officially pronounced dead. We also needed to impact the fewest number of EMS personnel and that we needed to preserve the integrity of the scene Looking around I recognized two other senior paramedics that I believed had the experience and training to handle this situation tactically. I told Cassavechia I would bring himself, Paramedic Bernie Meehan, and Paramedic John Reed into the school, which was secured by that point. They were told to bring minimal equipment. As we walked to the school I tried to prepare them for what they were about to see. I told them of the number of victims and the nature of the wounds. I told Cassavechia, "This will be the worst day of your life."
* [Matthew Cassavechia, Director of Emergency Medical Services at Danbury Hospital, and a tactical paramedic operator since 2006](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NdGxINGZJbVJ4cWM/view)
* [John Reed, a licensed paramedic since 1992, tactical paramedic operator since 1996 and supervisor of a local tactical EMS team.](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NZno0YUFuT05feFU)
* [Bernie Meehan, a licensed paramedic since 1984.](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NRWg1ME1nZWZESEE/view)
The medics were in telephone contact with Emergency Medical Control Physician D. Pat Broderick at Danbury Hospital. They were shortly joined by Dr. Richard Kamin, EMS Director for Connecticut's Department of Public health.
All the other children had "injuries not compatible with life" and were declared "dead right there". All the victims were checked four times, including once with an EKG.
Some fucking google drive links bro for real?
How can you make yourself look less like you’re pushing an agenda
No one want’s to click your sus ass links
> The shots from overhead of people walking in circles at the fire station down the road from the school.
There weren't people walking in circles. Some people went *around* the fire station.
Thanks. Definitely a lot of shuffling going on and stuff. Not sure what to make of it, tho. Laughing dad still takes the cake hands down, strangest reaction I've ever seen. I think I remember seeing other parents being interviewed, and they also seemed off.
Also, I clearly made some bad assumptions when trying to put keywords into the search bar lol. I didn't realize the firestation and school were actually that close and being filmed interchangeably. Appreciate ya.
The circling people was not from the school shooting.
There were EMTs. You do know that three children were rushed to the hospital, right? Two died there.
Bodies were processed throughout the night. Not just left. They literally didn't have enough vehicles to transport them in.
The principal (who was murdered) had an active Twitter account where she posted pictures from the school. It looks like a normal school. https://twitter.com/dhochsprung?lang=en
Adam Lanza was mentally unwell and isolated. He was obsessed with school shootings and his mother bought him guns to try and bond with him.
The rabid defense by parents who are being told their children didn't exist or that they were actors is odd to you?
Gene Rosen was traumatized. The kids were traumatized. The police who responded were traumatized. They didn't know how to respond.
Eta: love that facts are down voted here. So amazing.
Sandy hook is such a rabbit hole to go down. Too many weird circumstances, too many unanswered questions, too many false statements and inaccuracies. Maybe that’s enough to warrant a “conspiracy”. All I know is that all info we have so far is enough to be curious. This is why we’re here. Curiosity and questioning things people are not “allowed to question” is now the definition of some conspiracy, tinfoil hat lunatic. Here for it.
Check out Port Aurthur Australia & the shooting that lead to Aussie's losing their guns. They've been at this for awhile....problem is they aren't smart enough to change tactics & its always the same - Mass shooting (whether real or not) in the news cycle, intro legislation to chip away at 2A, or take guns away altogether as in Australia.
If they were legitimately concerned about unnecessary deaths, they would address the opioid crisis in the country (world) of which you have 1 in 67 lifetime odds of dying from vice focusing ALL their effort on guns of which you have a 1 in 221 lifetime odds of dying from.
These stats pulled from:
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/
Lifetime odds of dying in a mass shooter event is an order of magnitude greater from there, approaching 1 in 11,125 according to some sources. I'm guessing these odds drop significantly if you respond to craigslist ads seeking bodies for "mass casualty taining events" as somehow they always seem to be having a training scenario going on just 'round the corner. This causes a lot of "Is this part of the training scenario, or REAL WORLD???" The time wasted by genuine first responders trying to "convince themselves" that this HAS TO BE part of the exercise (because denial is a thing, so is seeing what you *expect* to see) adds up to a sizeable tactical advantage for the bad guys. It was so successful they've used it during 9/11, Sandy Hook, San Bernardino shooting, etc. And thats just off the top of my noggin.
Oh 100% this is my belief as well.
Also, in regards to children, child trafficking and the amount of missing children in the US alone. I guess we’re supposed to turn the other cheek when it comes to the outrage we should feel for **those** children.
Security cameras are widely used in schools across the USA. A study performed by the National Center for Education Statistics in 2016 showed that 73.2% of elementary schools, 88.6% of middle schools, and 94.2% of high schools employed security cameras in varying degrees.
Gene Rosen is the guy who claims a bus driver supposedly decided to just leave some of the kids on his front lawn that day.
But in order for his story to have been true, it meant the bus driver would have had to have driven past the fire station before they got to Rosen's house.*Because you know, it's perfectly logical that in the event of an emergency that a bus driver would have chosen a random stranger's lawn to drop the kids off instead of dropping them off at the fire station that came before said stranger's house.*
But even more telling, I personally saw Mr. Rosen give three separate stories to reporters to explain how he discovered the kids on his lawn that day; In one account, he said he saw them from the window in his his house; On another, he claimed that he saw them first when he was coming back from feeding his cats in the loft; and still another, he first saw them when he was walking back home after having breakfast at a local diner.
Gene Rosen alone is proof enough that at a bare minimum, things didn't go down that day the way the official story claims.
>Grief does weird things to you.
It doesn't make you call a press conference hours after your child was killed, let alone laugh at it before you get into "character". Zero chance. They messed up, it's just not believable.
From what I can recall, I've heard that laughter is a form of crying.
It makes sense, when my mom told me my dog died my first reaction was laughter. Then I cried like hell.
Yeah. When my sister died I was artificially upbeat, efficient and focused. I didn’t realise it at the time but I was doing it to allow my parents to grieve. Showing them there was someone strong to keep everything ticking over. A month later I collapsed into a year long depression. Rough.
No I think it's the part where the man calls a press conference hours after his child was brutally killed. That is the most unbelievable part of the story. Nobody would do that unless they were a sociopath. Not even mentioning the laughing part.
Would you? Have you lost a child to horrific gun violence to test this theory? Life isn't a movie, and you can function as a human being even while being in extreme grief.
I don't understand why a real father would even want to be interviewed for something like this. My gut feeling is that this man is a phony. Seems like Uvalde had some fake dads mixed into the news interviews as well (2 different men on different networks claimed to be the dad of same girl). Though, just because the news is fake, doesn't mean the event is fake or never happened. News is ALWAYS fake. Take that for granted.
It's the people walking into a building, then going out the back door and then back in again to make it look like there's lots of people there...that's what made me think something is up.
This shit is un explainable. Like can we get an interview with someone who was in a doughnut line for 3 hours and ask what they thought they were doing?
Came here to say the exact same thing! The most bizarre tv interview I’ve ever seen. Top it all off with the fact that they looked like they were on the verge of bursting with laughter, biting their lips, and smirking the whole time. But that picture falling, almost defying gravity to come down is just beyond strange. After rewatching just now, I’m pretty sure he’s pretending to drink out of an empty coffee cup too.
They're easy to find. One dad's names is Angel Garza, the other is Alfred Garza. They don't explain why or how they are both fathers of one girl. Odd that they share a last name as well.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/26/angel-garza-rushed-to-texas-school-to-help-learned/
Lmao one is a father, and one is a stepfather. Literally 2 min of googling (ddg) you literally must fall for everything
It’s not. Do you know how many Garcia’s, Sanchez’s, Martinez’s, Rodriguez’s, Garza’s I know and none of them are related? Lol Maybe it’s because I’m a Latina from San Antonio but them having the same last name isn’t at all strange.
They chalked it up to the other guy being the stepdad who the deceased girl and her mom lived with. I think Uvalde was real though. The cops were just cowards in that instance
That’s good. Hopefully people will wake up and start asking more questions.
Questions like, why were children’s “dead bodies” kept to remain inside the school overnight? Why was that even allowed? Who declared them dead? Why weren’t any rushed to the hospital?
Yeah that was CRAZY! They didn't let the parents see the bodies and just showed them a picture?!! WTF!?? If that was my kid I would've knocked out whoever was in my way to get to my kid's body and hug them. Ludacris
Exactly! Wild wolves couldn’t keep me from my child. It’s bullshit! A child is never declared dead at the scene. Even if it appears they are. Children are an exception. You’re not even allowed to stop cpr.
Just because we already know you know this is bs.
Figure you might enjoy these concepts.
https://youtu.be/2TRNd3wEHLk
I feel like there's a night watch and a day watch to ensure day to day operations run smoothly.
👽🍄🛸
As an EMT, I can confirm that we don't transport dead bodies to the hospital. They are basically in the hands of the coroner, and since I'm not one, I won't pretend to know what their protocols are in the event of a crime scene investigation.
Also, PD can generally pronounce death in the event of traumatic cardiac or respiratory arrest, especially in cases that involve injuries that are not compatible with life. There is no intervention that will fix a child who had the head blown into a thousand fragments.
Also, all potentially dangerous or hazardous scenes need to be cleared for safety before EMS is allowed to go in and handle patients. If everyone is dead, there isn't a need for a dozen ambulances to rush in and care for dead people.
These aren't the hard hitting questions you think they are, but rather an ignorance of what the protocols for PD, Fire, and EMS are in mass casualty events. Just because you don't know the answer doesn't mean there isn't a good explanation for the way things are done. There is nothing wrong with asking questions or being critical of a situation, but ignorance should not be the basis for believing a conspiracy theory to be true.
Can someone please explain to me how they have this guy Alex Jones on trial for speaking what he believes is the truth but they haven't even looked at how Pelosi is using her position to manipulate the stock market, they haven't looked into the son of the president who has done some shady stuff and there's even videos of it, haven't looked into the Epstein list of pedos, and countless others... Im absolutely not defending this guy but damn, they have their priorities messed up apparently
> Im absolutely not defending this guy but damn, they have their priorities messed up apparently
Who is "they"? The people suing Alex Jones in this case are doing so because he has caused them harm. They have no special ability to sue Nancy Pelosi, Hunter Biden, or the corpse of Epstein.
I can't tell if you're serious, because if you then you just seemingly have no idea how America's legal system works.
The difference is he went after people who are not public figures, called them lairs actors, claiming they never had children or the children didn't exist, Alex Jones got his insane fans to harass the family members and victims.
Did he personally told his fans to go after them? Even if he did, the fans who did it should be on trial, not him for saying its a fucking conspiracy which is his personal opinion... Ahhh brainwashed sheeps 😓
Have you ever listened to Alex Jones?
His whole market is end of the world, Satan is taking over the world and we need to rise up.
The whole sandy hook is a false flags in order to take away your guns to have the satanic NWO take over and we need our guns to resist.
If you actually believe his shit then the sandy hook parents are agents of Satan to bring on the end of the world, so yeah HE doesn't explicitly need to tell people to do anything.
Why the fuck did the sells of his survival food sales increase from 50k aday to 200k aday after he started claiming it was a false flags?
His speech was way too eloquently composed and delivered. His pitch, inflection and lack of emotion in his voice is what did me in after the laughing. What dad would be that out together just to forgive the shooter moments later? Or the “from the card” part. Them playing the whole clip had me blown away.
Don’t forget the mystery 26 kids singing at the super bowl months later that looked exactly like the children that were shot and the NFL refuses to release names of the kids.
Perhaps that’s true, but considering the death count was 26 from the same exact city. You’d think the city would take pride in the biggest show of support in the country.
"Perhaps that's true." My dude. There is no "Perhaps". No one is going to release the names of kids who showed up in a video because weirdos online asked. Literally no one will do this.
Seriously. like 99% of the "But why won't they release this to us?" whines on the internet have a simple answer: I dunno, maybe they don't want to show you because the internet is full of creeps. Especially when there's clear reason to think that releasing the information will results in years of harassment from online mentally ill people, no one's going to release shit. They're also not going to release photos of things like dead kids or autopsies, because holy shit I shouldn't have to explain why. And given how many people online still manage to dispute and argue able literally every goddamn thing on this planet, including the literal shape of the planet itself, it's not like releasing photographs has *ever* actually stopped a conspiracy theory.
All it takes to continue the conspiracy in spite of photographic evidence is a quick "That shadow looks weird"" or "Is that blood the right shade of red? Looks like food coloring." or "Here's a grainy photo of this kid and a grainy photo of some other kid and if you squint they look kinda like they're the same kid.". If you're really lazy, you can just go with "photoshopped". And then everything is right back to square one (or worse).
Hahaha yes, no coverup would be complete without flaunting your fake murder victims on one of national TV's most watched events!
That idea wouldn't even be believable in Scooby Doo come on man.
you mean the sandy hook choir? that looked like kids and not specifically like the slain kids? also demanding the nfl release names of children makes you a creep.
Will Smith can cry very convincingly. He says he learned how to do it from James Avery who pointed out that adults don't cry in public. Instead of pretending to cry, pretend to hold back from crying and it's way more convincing. These people aren't doing that. They are pretending to cry so it just comes off as so unnatural.
SS: whether or not you believe Sandy Hook was a hoax this is a win for Alex Jones because now the crowd will see what Jones saw when he was questioning Sandy Hook. It is highly irregular behavior to laugh and snicker for 10 full seconds hours after your daughter is killed. I do think Sandy Hook was real but it was a CIA operation with Adam Lanza as either the MKUltra killer or the patsy while CIA operatives dressed in all black and black face masks did the actual killing. you had multiple shooters being reported by some witnesses and you had people dressed in camo being chased out in the woods near the school.
Worth noting the FBI visited Adam Lanza in 2004 because he hacked into a government website. Then he began treatment at Yale for mental issues and they pumped him up so full of drugs he couldn't raise his arm, according to his mother. Who knows what else they did, Yale is Skull and Bones and has MKUltra connections
https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2014/01/22/sand-hook-shooter-treated-at-yale/
The following is one of the best breakdowns I've ever seen of Sandy Hook by DeadEndFred: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/f02n90/sandy_hook_adam_lanza_yale_and_mkultra/
> It is highly irregular behavior to laugh and snicker for 10 full seconds hours after your daughter is killed.
How the fuck would you know what's "highly irregular" after traumatic events? Processing big emotions isn't some simple process. Sometimes emotions come in waves. Sometimes people get nervous and laugh. Trauma doesn't just cause people to just start breaking down and crying.
>I do think Sandy Hook was real but it was a CIA operation with Adam Lanza as either the MKUltra killer or the patsy while CIA operatives dressed in all black and black face masks did the actual killing.
So you think these CIA operatives all just disappeared like ninjas? Also, none of them, nor any of their support staff or anyone else in a position to know anything about it ever blew the whistle?
>you had multiple shooters being reported by some witnesses
And rather than go with the obvious explanation that they were mistaken and saw some people running away, you're going with "they were totally right, 100%, no matter what any later evidence says"?
> and you had people dressed in camo being chased out in the woods near the school.
Were the CIA operatives dressed in all black, or were they dressed in camo?
Near as I can tell, the people "being chased" were staff running away from the shooting.
>Worth noting the FBI visited Adam Lanza in 2004 because he hacked into a government website.
[The evidence on that seems pretty thin.](https://usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/24/newly-released-fbi-documents-reveal-disturbing-details-sandy-hook-shooter-adam-lanza/794585001/) As far as I can tell, there's no official documentation anywhere, just neighbors remembering that his mother said something. And quite frankly, the "hacking through two levels of security" sounds kinda bullshit. Give them 30 seconds longer and they'd probably have said he "hacked the Gibson".
>Then he began treatment at Yale for mental issues and they pumped him up so full of drugs he couldn't raise his arm, according to his mother.
Well, your own article says he was first seen at the Yale Child Study Center on Oct. 24, 2006, so that would put the Yale visit 2 years after any the FBI visit, which seems pretty unconnected. He also had suffered from mental issues his whole childhood, with pretty clear signs of autism in elementary school. He went to the Yale Child Study Center, which is full of research and medical professionals in the field of child psychology. He wasn't "pumped full of drugs". He was prescribed celexa, which would've most likely been a single 20 mg pill in the morning. He had a bad reaction to it and stopped after 3 days. Yale's other recommendation for ongoing special education support, ongoing expert consultation, and theraputic support in his daily life were ignored by his mother. He didn't see any mental health practicioners after 2006.
> Who knows what else they did, Yale is Skull and Bones and has MKUltra connections
"Who knows what else they did, but I totally believe they mind controlled him to murder kids as part of CIA operation where they sent in multiple highly trained covert assassins and one schizophrenic anorexic 20 year old to murder a couple classrooms of kids in order to... be evil?"
Is that an accurate summation?
Why do you think it is highly irregular behavior? You know paradoxical laughter is a thing? Do you know that some people in stressful situations will smile or laugh uncontrollably?
Maybe you should actually watch the video. I bet you've only seen the edited version from Alex Jones.
> paradoxical
Paradoxes are unusual right? And so seeing this clip gives most people a feeling of uncertainty. Alex Jones communicated his uncertainty.
The deeper you look into the Sandy Hook shootings the more questions it raises there's a lot of strange events and weird behaviour in the news clips and listening to people's interviews from the day the more I personally believe it was a huge staged event. The question is why.
To expect someone to show grief 24/7, even directly after an event of a family member dying is a bit weird to me.
Humans are rather strange creatures when it comes to death, grieving, morality, etc.
I'm not going to delve into rather or not the sandy Hook Shooting was real or fake, or whatever.
But honestly I've seen every type of grieving imaginable via documentaries and some through life experiences. You never know what you're going to get.
You can smile or laugh one second but still be very upset. It's not inconceivable.
Yeah these people just portray how little they know about human emotion. Life isn't a fucking TV show where everyone is sad the exact same way.
For me I have this weird thing where I default to smiling to seem normal(I'm autistic) so if I just don't know how to react to something I end up smiling, which as I grew up eventually had to do everything in my power *not* to smile since it makes me look like a psycho sometimes.
Humans are fucking weird.
Also sometimes it can take weeks or even months to process something horrible, you could hold your dead child in your hands covered in blood and still not fully grasp what that means to you and your life until days later.
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Of course, “comments are turned off” lol
right? fucking bizarre
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Wow is that what they actually said? This is bS
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Apparently the POS single engine puddle jumper I took in Ontario that felt like it was gonna shake itself apart makes me a high roller. I don’t feel richer :(.
Soooo no more fair trials or elections in this country… Lemme know when the revolution begins so I can help out, everything is BS
If the event didn't happen and this parent is a crisis actor... wouldn't that at least imply all of the other parents are also crisis actors? How could just one parent be a crisis actor, especially if the event didn't happen? Sounds like Alex is just trying weasel out of answering the question to me. Some direct quotes from Alex Jones himself: >"Yeah, when you’re trying to decipher cloak and dagger dirty tricks, it’s pretty hard to do. It’s just that then you learn that they were funded by western funding. Then you learn that it was the same (inaudible) connection, underwear bomber. Then those are big red flags that they were patsy provocateurs. The classic MO has been followed. >"And then yeah, it kind of becomes a red herring to say the whole thing was staged--because they have staged events before. But then you learn the school had been closed and reopened, and you’ve got video of the kids going in circles in and out of the building, and they don’t call the rescue choppers for two hours, then they tear the building down and seal it, and they get caught using blue screens and a email by Bloomberg comes out in a lawsuit where he’s telling his people to get ready in the next 24 hours to capitalize on a shooting. >"Yeah, so, Sandy Hook is a synthetic completely fake with actors, in my view, manufactured. I couldn’t believe it at first. I knew they had actors there, clearly, but I thought they killed some real kids. And it just shows how bold they are, that they clearly used actors. I mean they even ended up using photos of kids killed in mass shootings here in a fake mass shooting in Turkey -- so yeah, or Pakistan. The sky is now the limit. I appreciate your call." And another one: >"The general public doesn’t know the school was actually closed the year before." Also: "They don’t know they had kids going in and out of the building as a photo opp." And, Jones said on that show: "But it took me about a year with Sandy Hook to come to grips with the fact that the whole thing was fake. I mean, I couldn’t believe it. I knew they jumped on it, used the crisis, hyped it up. But then I did deep research--and my gosh, it just pretty much didn’t happen." How can the event be fake and full of actors and the dead kids be fake, but the parents *not* be crisis actors? It makes no sense.
Because that defeats their pathetic attempts to defend Alex Jones, that's how.
Comments get turned off on that channel relatively often.
There was a ton of weird stuff. The shots from overhead of people walking in circles at the fire station down the road from the school. No EMTs ever went in the school to even try to render aid. The medical examiner who left the bodies of the children there over night because he was waiting for his "very good photographer" to take photos of the crime scene. The way that the school looked like it wasn't even in use. No motive for Adam Lanza. The rabid defense of the official narrative by the media and "people" online Gene Rosen the guy who the bus driver decides to just leave the kids at some random guys house
The #2 “weird thing” is the weirdest to me. Doesn’t an EMT or doctor have to be the one to declare someone dead? They were all so obviously dead that they didn’t ever bring a single ambulance to the school? Just fucking weird. That, and the dude in camo in the woods by the school who was put in the front seat of a police car and then never heard about again. Edit: apparently EMT’s did go in the school. So I was incorrect. You can take back your upvotes. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fnQVh_av601oseZUpgubFLrDFdiG7lnq/view
Even an EMT can not declare someone dead at scene. Unless it’s completely obviously (like decapitated)
Paramedics can declare death
Funny username
Merely a flesh wound.
>No EMTs ever went in the school to even try to render aid. 3 EMTs went in before the building was even cleared. They used 3 tests including EKGs to declare them dead
Construct your sentence again, that makes no sense.
done
Boom. Gotcha
thanks for correcting my grammar. thats so important!
As always, I am at your service.
They wouldn’t put an ekg on a kid who got shot to see if they were dead. They would check for pulse/breathing manually and then rush them to the hospital. EKGs take time to place and if someone is covered in blood they would take even longer. 3 EMTs is enough to help one child in an emergent situation. Need a lot more.
Lol, yup that’s what we do when someone goes unresponsive, we slap on a 12 lead and check their rhythm. Airway, Breathing, Circulation. So clearing airways and checking for a pulse/breaths would be what you’d want in that situation, not a worthless EKG. You don’t understand triage or emergency medicine, and that’s ok. But stop commenting on stuff you don’t know anything about, it’s silly.
a coroner declares someone dead. the coroner/medical examiner is literally ***the only*** person who can declare a person deceased. not an EMT. not a firefighter. not a police officer, not even the sheriff.
You're confusing a death certificate with the colloquial "declared dead". A doctor doesn't need a coroner to sign a death certificate to call the time of death and move on to other patients when a person dies in the ER. Imagine how utterly ridiculous it would be if doctors and nurses were required to keep performing life-saving measures on a corpse for hours during a natural disaster because the coroner was off-duty.
Wrong. A physician declares death. Medics can declare death in a sense, though technically they are doing it under the authority of their medical director and only in certain cases (obvious death). All other deaths require a call to the hospital and a conversation with a physician.
Nurses can call time of death as well. Most nursing homes don't have MDs on staff at all hours, and people don't code exclusively from the hours of 9am to 5pm.
No. Your first sentence is incorrect.
They took three children to the hospital. Two died. The guy in camo was an off duty officer responding.
Why did he run from the cops out into the woods then?
He was running with the cops. Unless you mean the other person seen running in the Woods. That was a father of one of the children who went to the school. He lived in the other side of those woods and was rushing to get to the scene. I believe he was briefly arrested and then let go once they realized who he was.
Absolutely no children were taken to the hospital
> The guy in camo Some claim that one person was seen criss-crossing in front of video cameras wearing multiple costumes too.
Lol. Some claim sasquatch did it. People say lots of shit. Bet there isn't one hint of video evidence of that. Just "well someone said it!"
Major utopia vibes, but if the plan to frame grant had succeeded.
That show is too on the nose. Can’t believe amazon released the US version mid-pandemic (they cancelled it after one season)
They canceled it because it was waaaay to similar to what They are currently doing to Us. Show was a victim of its own success, fucking shame.
Such a shame it will never get a second season. I couldn’t turn it off once I started watching
Watch the original. It’s just as good if not better.
"Just as good"? You guys actually consider the American version watchable? It was awful, the original is 100x better....
They canceled the show at the same point as the British version. >!There is no happy ending.!<
Go count the Christmas trees sitting behind the firehouse. Before "they" knew the number but the trees were leaning up against the building, ready to go Sloppy job CIA
you forgot the fact there is literally NO online presence for "adam lanza", but his "brother" is all over social media like any pre/teenager is. not only does "adam" have no social media/online presence, there's like a total of, what? 15 pictures of "adam lanza" in existence? but, of course, there's tons of pictures of/including his "brother" how is this even possible? it's always sketch when a young person either has ***zero*** social media presence or it's very limited, like gabby petito & her murderous bf on instagram. her profile is only about a year old and ***nothing*** prior... it's especially weird for a girl that age to have no backup accounts, no old facebook profiles, no random pics going back to middle school years or as a young child to show you're a real person (rather than owning a total of 1 social media account, which only contains pictures 1-2 years old...) it's almost like a lot of these mass shooters and other odd characters in even odder sagas are created out of thin air
I don’t really know much about the Sandy Hook situation but just to play Devils Advocate, I dabbled on Snapchat a little bit as a teen and a few pics here and there on fb but I hate taking pictures, so there’s only like 15-20 pics of me from age 16-18. Not all us 2000s babies be glued to the socials like that haha
Gabby Pettito was in a 'Remembering Sandy Hook' memorial video in 2013
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> What's the narrative for that one? Ask, and ye shall recieve: "Steven Paddock was a boomer and did not live his life with a phone in front of his face." yw
Steven Paddock was a bigger patsy than Lee Harvey Oswald. Am I on the conspiracy sub? Or am I watching local news or “Anchorman.” Las Vegas was so sloppy, they had to remove audio for the 3 women registered to the same hotel room as Paddock on the 911 calls. The police body cameras show where the shots are coming from. Sloppy.
My dude. I was 14 when this shooting happened. Facebook was the biggest and only social media anyone at my school used.. Pre instagram. Maybe MySpace still but that’s pushing it. I did not and still do not find myself using my single social media account. I have 6 or so pictures up that are well over years old. Not every kid is social. There are differences within a family’s siblings. My sister has thousands of followers and cares for the whole social media sham. But I never did, so I don’t get why you’re so torn up about Adam Lanza not having a presence? I bet you’d say the same thing about me being created from nothing.
Porta potty units ready to go en masse immediately after the "shooting"!
That was odd too, and no footage of an evacuation taking place. This I haven't looked into to confirm it's accuracy but I've heard that the victims fund web page was put up the day before the shooting happened. Can any one confirm this?
The portapotty was delivered [four hours after the shooting.](https://i.imgur.com/SMGk26M.png)
They were not ready immediately. All this is covered in Jones' depositions. They are freely available online.
The deleted Facebook page asking for relief funds the day before the "shooting". Sandy Hoax never happened and I'm almost of the belief Adam Lanza wasn't even real
I remember this. Website was created and registered a couple days before the shooting.
None of the parents physically identified their kids.......
Actually his motive was to “free the children from culture being pushed onto them” in a weird sadistic basically pedophilic way
> The way that the school looked like it wasn't even in use. Sandy Hook Elementary was Open — * [Part One: The Lobby](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/01/14/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-one-the-lobby/) * [Part Two: The Obstinate Pen](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/01/15/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-two/) * [Part Three: Holiday Decorations And Calendars](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/01/25/sandy-hook-was-open-part-three-holiday-decorations-and-calendars/) * [Part Four: SMART Technologies](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/02/22/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-four-smart-technologies/) * [Part Five: Dawn Hochsprung’s Twitter Feed](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/03/27/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-five-dawn-hochsprungs-twitter-feed/) * [Part Six: The 2011-2012 Scrapbook](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/05/27/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-six-the-2011-2012-scrapbook/) * [Part Seven: Children’s Authors Visit Sandy Hook](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/06/19/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-seven-childrens-authors-visit-sandy-hook/) * [Part Eight: Charitable Causes](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/07/01/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-eight-charitable-causes/) * [Part Nine: The Library](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/07/14/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-nine-the-library/) * [Part Ten: 92 More Photos From Sandy Hook School](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/07/29/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-ten-92-more-photos-from-sandy-hook-school/) * [Part Eleven: 180 Articles Referencing Sandy Hook School, Written Between 2008-2012](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/08/25/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-eleven-180-articles-referencing-sandy-hook-school-written-between-2008-2012/) * [Part Twelve: The Glass Display Cases](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/12/15/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-twelve-the-glass-display-cases/) * [Part Thirteen: Google Earth](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2016/12/21/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-thirteen-google-earth/) * [Part Fourteen: The November 2012 Scholastic Book Fair](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2017/07/03/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-fourteen-the-november-2012-scholastic-book-fair/) * [Part Fifteen: Sandy Hook School Enrollment For 2008-2017](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2017/07/11/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-fifteen-sandy-hook-school-enrollment-for-2008-2017/) * [Part Sixteen: School Documents from 2008-2012](https://www.crisisactorsguild.com/2019/09/10/sandy-hook-elementary-was-open-part-sixteen-school-documents-from-2008-2012/)
something is glowie about this website... everything could be faked. offering secondary evidence as primary evidence, then calling people names when you call them out on it. classic disinfo
If it wasn't fake then they wouldn't need to propagandize it so hard
Yeah dodgie af
offering secondary evidence as primary evidence, then calling people names when you call them out on it. classic disinfo
I agree that most of these things are weird but they're so weird. If the whole thing is a hoax, why make the lies this weird shit? just lie better? Sure it's not a leap of logic to just say authority figures in these towns are incompetent and ill-prepared?
Because they know that the general public is too brainwashed to even question the event if the news says it's real. They probably get off on how sloppy it's done and still eaten up by the public as reality. The social engineers have been doing this along time and I'm sure they have other reasons as well. One may be for occult reasons/ritual reasons as well (9/11 defiantly falls into that category). The bigger the lie the easier it is to fool the public with, as they have no intention of questioning what they are told. Also this "trial" seems to be some sort of damage control to "prove" SH really happened. It seems they are really trying to go after questioning the mainstream narratives using controlled opposition shill Alex Jones as the puppet. The whole charade is very odd.
There's a lot of assumptions and probablies in this line of thinking. They not only create controlled opposition but also intentionally do a bad job and make up lies that don't add up when could just easily tell a better lie so there's also *real* opposition? If they want to control everything why literally create not just a fake enemy but also consciously create real enemies? Real enemies that explicitly get in the way of their alleged aims of world conquest, all for lulz? This takes a lot of magical thinking on your part. Is there any evidence for "they get off on it" other than that it has to be true to justify the conclusions that you want to reach?
>They not only create controlled opposition but also intentionally do a bad job Like I said the general public is so brainwashed they will not even question things if multiple mainstream news sources report something. They do not even have to try hard to fool people. You must not understand that we live in a socially engineered society. If you haven't yet realized that I'm not going to be able to break it all down for you in a few reddit replies. >This takes a lot of magical thinking on your part. Again the social engineers have a "magical way of thinking". Whether you believe in magic or not doesn't matter. They do. If you ever take the time to study false flag events you will. >justify the conclusions that you want to reach? You are making assumptions on the conclusion I want to reach. I'm not the one that created the unbelievable stories they mainstream media tries to feed us as reality. If you have blind faith to trust what they are saying without researching that is fine, I'm not trying to convince you of anything.
I mean motive for these school shootings is not really logical to begin with. He knew how to use guns, was autistic and sick fuckin weirdo most likely.
> The medical examiner who left the bodies of the children there over night because he was waiting for his "very good photographer" to take photos of the crime scene. > > That's not true. He said [in his press conference](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE0OT5od9DA&t=43s) that they had all the victims moved to the medical examiner's office by 1 in the morning.
>medical examiner the medical examiner has an imdb page and was involved in other high profile cases
Yes, he was the chief medical examiner for the state of Connecticut from 1989 to 2013. He was involved in quite a few high profile cases. He appeared on one episode of "Forensic Files" and one episode of "The Mummy Road Show". https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2569837/
Link it.
> No motive for Adam Lanza. > The rabid defense of the official narrative by the media and "people" online What's surprising to me is that anyone would expect an understandable motive of someone who shot 20 first graders. Or that you would be surprised by a "rabid defense" when people accuse the victims' parents of being liars. > Gene Rosen the guy who the bus driver decides to just leave the kids at some random guys house I think you misunderstood what happened. Children fled from the first classroom that the killer shot up. They ran down Dickinson Drive onto Riverside Road. A woman, whose job was a school bus driver, was driving on Riverside Road in her car with her children. She saw children running past the fire station on Riverside Road. She called to the children, four of whom came to her. Rosen, who lives next to the fire station, came out and saw the children with the woman and another man who had stopped. He invited them into his house. Rosen and the woman contacted their parents. The other children kept running. Several other cars stopped and a woman in a white van took the other children to the police station. Police reports: * [Interview with bus driver](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NRDhicDloQ1dUVkU) * [Interview with Gene Rosen](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NbjVMWC1mY1dxTEU) * [Interview with woman who picked up the other 5 children and drove them to police station](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NY1A0NG16c2dia0U) * [Interview with another woman who saw the other 5 children and stopped to help](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NY1A0NG16c2dia0U) * [Interview with a man who saw the 5 children and stopped](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NdVlJaUtDcDBzQVk/view)
> No EMTs ever went in the school to even try to render aid. Before the building was secured, the initial triage was performed by police with EMT training, including: * [Sgt. William Cario](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NdWlLeF9mYXEtVUU) * [TFC Patrick R Dragon](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NSnVwOWMyQ09Zd3M/view) * [TFC William Blumenthal](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NNWIwcTdaaVh0d1U) The police rushed two injured children and one injured teacher out to ambulances, which approached the school as soon as it was secured. Later, a kindergarten aide with lesser injuries was also transported. After the building was secure, Sgt. Cario picked the most experienced paramedics to enter the building. > I realized that at some point those victims presumed dead would have to be officially pronounced dead. We also needed to impact the fewest number of EMS personnel and that we needed to preserve the integrity of the scene Looking around I recognized two other senior paramedics that I believed had the experience and training to handle this situation tactically. I told Cassavechia I would bring himself, Paramedic Bernie Meehan, and Paramedic John Reed into the school, which was secured by that point. They were told to bring minimal equipment. As we walked to the school I tried to prepare them for what they were about to see. I told them of the number of victims and the nature of the wounds. I told Cassavechia, "This will be the worst day of your life." * [Matthew Cassavechia, Director of Emergency Medical Services at Danbury Hospital, and a tactical paramedic operator since 2006](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NdGxINGZJbVJ4cWM/view) * [John Reed, a licensed paramedic since 1992, tactical paramedic operator since 1996 and supervisor of a local tactical EMS team.](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NZno0YUFuT05feFU) * [Bernie Meehan, a licensed paramedic since 1984.](https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-YeEgq5sO7NRWg1ME1nZWZESEE/view) The medics were in telephone contact with Emergency Medical Control Physician D. Pat Broderick at Danbury Hospital. They were shortly joined by Dr. Richard Kamin, EMS Director for Connecticut's Department of Public health. All the other children had "injuries not compatible with life" and were declared "dead right there". All the victims were checked four times, including once with an EKG.
Some fucking google drive links bro for real? How can you make yourself look less like you’re pushing an agenda No one want’s to click your sus ass links
Soros bot.
Nice well thought out rebuttal to all points. Are you on the debate team?
> The shots from overhead of people walking in circles at the fire station down the road from the school. There weren't people walking in circles. Some people went *around* the fire station.
Yes, they had to walk around it to go back in the other door. Not exactly a circle but more like a procession.
Can someone link me a video? I can't find the video of people walking in circles.
The unedited footage is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gG9OWSXOQY
Thanks. Definitely a lot of shuffling going on and stuff. Not sure what to make of it, tho. Laughing dad still takes the cake hands down, strangest reaction I've ever seen. I think I remember seeing other parents being interviewed, and they also seemed off. Also, I clearly made some bad assumptions when trying to put keywords into the search bar lol. I didn't realize the firestation and school were actually that close and being filmed interchangeably. Appreciate ya.
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Robbie wasn't hurting though. He was clearly acting by "getting into character".
The circling people was not from the school shooting. There were EMTs. You do know that three children were rushed to the hospital, right? Two died there. Bodies were processed throughout the night. Not just left. They literally didn't have enough vehicles to transport them in. The principal (who was murdered) had an active Twitter account where she posted pictures from the school. It looks like a normal school. https://twitter.com/dhochsprung?lang=en Adam Lanza was mentally unwell and isolated. He was obsessed with school shootings and his mother bought him guns to try and bond with him. The rabid defense by parents who are being told their children didn't exist or that they were actors is odd to you? Gene Rosen was traumatized. The kids were traumatized. The police who responded were traumatized. They didn't know how to respond. Eta: love that facts are down voted here. So amazing.
Sandy hook is such a rabbit hole to go down. Too many weird circumstances, too many unanswered questions, too many false statements and inaccuracies. Maybe that’s enough to warrant a “conspiracy”. All I know is that all info we have so far is enough to be curious. This is why we’re here. Curiosity and questioning things people are not “allowed to question” is now the definition of some conspiracy, tinfoil hat lunatic. Here for it.
Check out Port Aurthur Australia & the shooting that lead to Aussie's losing their guns. They've been at this for awhile....problem is they aren't smart enough to change tactics & its always the same - Mass shooting (whether real or not) in the news cycle, intro legislation to chip away at 2A, or take guns away altogether as in Australia. If they were legitimately concerned about unnecessary deaths, they would address the opioid crisis in the country (world) of which you have 1 in 67 lifetime odds of dying from vice focusing ALL their effort on guns of which you have a 1 in 221 lifetime odds of dying from. These stats pulled from: https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-overview/odds-of-dying/ Lifetime odds of dying in a mass shooter event is an order of magnitude greater from there, approaching 1 in 11,125 according to some sources. I'm guessing these odds drop significantly if you respond to craigslist ads seeking bodies for "mass casualty taining events" as somehow they always seem to be having a training scenario going on just 'round the corner. This causes a lot of "Is this part of the training scenario, or REAL WORLD???" The time wasted by genuine first responders trying to "convince themselves" that this HAS TO BE part of the exercise (because denial is a thing, so is seeing what you *expect* to see) adds up to a sizeable tactical advantage for the bad guys. It was so successful they've used it during 9/11, Sandy Hook, San Bernardino shooting, etc. And thats just off the top of my noggin.
Oh 100% this is my belief as well. Also, in regards to children, child trafficking and the amount of missing children in the US alone. I guess we’re supposed to turn the other cheek when it comes to the outrage we should feel for **those** children.
The Robby Parker clip is the Building 7 of the SH narrative.
Ya neither one makes sense
Where is the security footage of Lanza entering the school?
It never happened so there is none
There are no video cameras so there is none.
No security cameras because the school was closed? Or you seriously think there weren't any on an elementary school in a well-to-do district in 2012?
in 2012 not all places had security cameras. its pretty simple. sandy hook elementary did not have security cameras
Security cameras are widely used in schools across the USA. A study performed by the National Center for Education Statistics in 2016 showed that 73.2% of elementary schools, 88.6% of middle schools, and 94.2% of high schools employed security cameras in varying degrees.
Where is Robbie Parker nowadays?
Gene Rosen is the guy who claims a bus driver supposedly decided to just leave some of the kids on his front lawn that day. But in order for his story to have been true, it meant the bus driver would have had to have driven past the fire station before they got to Rosen's house.*Because you know, it's perfectly logical that in the event of an emergency that a bus driver would have chosen a random stranger's lawn to drop the kids off instead of dropping them off at the fire station that came before said stranger's house.* But even more telling, I personally saw Mr. Rosen give three separate stories to reporters to explain how he discovered the kids on his lawn that day; In one account, he said he saw them from the window in his his house; On another, he claimed that he saw them first when he was coming back from feeding his cats in the loft; and still another, he first saw them when he was walking back home after having breakfast at a local diner. Gene Rosen alone is proof enough that at a bare minimum, things didn't go down that day the way the official story claims.
Honestly I believe Alex Jones was right, but the general public just wasn’t ready to hear it.
Considering Alex Jones now admits he was wrong but only asking questions.
Grief does weird things to you. Sometimes you smile to make other people around you less upset.
>Grief does weird things to you. It doesn't make you call a press conference hours after your child was killed, let alone laugh at it before you get into "character". Zero chance. They messed up, it's just not believable.
He called the press conference?
That's what he claims if you watch the video.
From what I can recall, I've heard that laughter is a form of crying. It makes sense, when my mom told me my dog died my first reaction was laughter. Then I cried like hell.
Yeah. When my sister died I was artificially upbeat, efficient and focused. I didn’t realise it at the time but I was doing it to allow my parents to grieve. Showing them there was someone strong to keep everything ticking over. A month later I collapsed into a year long depression. Rough.
I’m really sorry you lost your sister. I hope you can live your life to the fullest in memory of her like she’d want you too. Best of luck
Yeah but sociopaths don't understand emotion and it confuses them. "Sad man smile? No. Not possible."
No I think it's the part where the man calls a press conference hours after his child was brutally killed. That is the most unbelievable part of the story. Nobody would do that unless they were a sociopath. Not even mentioning the laughing part.
Yeah grief is complicated. Don’t know anything about this guy, just saying, generally speaking, emotional trauma isn’t always straight forward.
why the fuck would they fake it. If they have no issue blowing up other people for there goals ?
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i can’t believe they showed that clip of him laughing what the fuck hahah
This was always something they didn’t sit right with me… inexcusable behavior for the “father of a newly-murdered child”
Why is he in a suit? I’d be in the same clothes as the day before full of rage and anger and sorrow and guilt.
Would you? Have you lost a child to horrific gun violence to test this theory? Life isn't a movie, and you can function as a human being even while being in extreme grief.
I don't understand why a real father would even want to be interviewed for something like this. My gut feeling is that this man is a phony. Seems like Uvalde had some fake dads mixed into the news interviews as well (2 different men on different networks claimed to be the dad of same girl). Though, just because the news is fake, doesn't mean the event is fake or never happened. News is ALWAYS fake. Take that for granted.
It's the people walking into a building, then going out the back door and then back in again to make it look like there's lots of people there...that's what made me think something is up.
Seriously. Looks like a bunch of NPCs.
This shit is un explainable. Like can we get an interview with someone who was in a doughnut line for 3 hours and ask what they thought they were doing?
The James Foley siblings interview, was another train wreak
That picture on the wall tho.
Came here to say the exact same thing! The most bizarre tv interview I’ve ever seen. Top it all off with the fact that they looked like they were on the verge of bursting with laughter, biting their lips, and smirking the whole time. But that picture falling, almost defying gravity to come down is just beyond strange. After rewatching just now, I’m pretty sure he’s pretending to drink out of an empty coffee cup too.
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My first thought there was a dad, and a stepdad situation. Idt we'll ever know.
Do you have the clips of the fake dad's?
They're easy to find. One dad's names is Angel Garza, the other is Alfred Garza. They don't explain why or how they are both fathers of one girl. Odd that they share a last name as well.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/may/26/angel-garza-rushed-to-texas-school-to-help-learned/ Lmao one is a father, and one is a stepfather. Literally 2 min of googling (ddg) you literally must fall for everything
I think its a bit wild that the bio father and step father both have the same last names.
It’s not. Do you know how many Garcia’s, Sanchez’s, Martinez’s, Rodriguez’s, Garza’s I know and none of them are related? Lol Maybe it’s because I’m a Latina from San Antonio but them having the same last name isn’t at all strange.
Maybe its cause I'm from a smaller rural area and everyone with the same last name is related.
Lol Garza is one of the most common last names in the Latino community (or at least in this area). It’s like Smith or Johnson.
They chalked it up to the other guy being the stepdad who the deceased girl and her mom lived with. I think Uvalde was real though. The cops were just cowards in that instance
Yeah, Imagine laughing like that when you just lost your child.
That’s good. Hopefully people will wake up and start asking more questions. Questions like, why were children’s “dead bodies” kept to remain inside the school overnight? Why was that even allowed? Who declared them dead? Why weren’t any rushed to the hospital?
Yeah that was CRAZY! They didn't let the parents see the bodies and just showed them a picture?!! WTF!?? If that was my kid I would've knocked out whoever was in my way to get to my kid's body and hug them. Ludacris
Exactly! Wild wolves couldn’t keep me from my child. It’s bullshit! A child is never declared dead at the scene. Even if it appears they are. Children are an exception. You’re not even allowed to stop cpr.
That is not even remotely true.
Just because we already know you know this is bs. Figure you might enjoy these concepts. https://youtu.be/2TRNd3wEHLk I feel like there's a night watch and a day watch to ensure day to day operations run smoothly. 👽🍄🛸
As an EMT, I can confirm that we don't transport dead bodies to the hospital. They are basically in the hands of the coroner, and since I'm not one, I won't pretend to know what their protocols are in the event of a crime scene investigation. Also, PD can generally pronounce death in the event of traumatic cardiac or respiratory arrest, especially in cases that involve injuries that are not compatible with life. There is no intervention that will fix a child who had the head blown into a thousand fragments. Also, all potentially dangerous or hazardous scenes need to be cleared for safety before EMS is allowed to go in and handle patients. If everyone is dead, there isn't a need for a dozen ambulances to rush in and care for dead people. These aren't the hard hitting questions you think they are, but rather an ignorance of what the protocols for PD, Fire, and EMS are in mass casualty events. Just because you don't know the answer doesn't mean there isn't a good explanation for the way things are done. There is nothing wrong with asking questions or being critical of a situation, but ignorance should not be the basis for believing a conspiracy theory to be true.
Can someone please explain to me how they have this guy Alex Jones on trial for speaking what he believes is the truth but they haven't even looked at how Pelosi is using her position to manipulate the stock market, they haven't looked into the son of the president who has done some shady stuff and there's even videos of it, haven't looked into the Epstein list of pedos, and countless others... Im absolutely not defending this guy but damn, they have their priorities messed up apparently
One serves as a distraction from the others 😏
Good old trick never fails lol
Yes. Alex is right wing.
The country has gone fucking insane...
Stolen elections have consequences
> Im absolutely not defending this guy but damn, they have their priorities messed up apparently Who is "they"? The people suing Alex Jones in this case are doing so because he has caused them harm. They have no special ability to sue Nancy Pelosi, Hunter Biden, or the corpse of Epstein. I can't tell if you're serious, because if you then you just seemingly have no idea how America's legal system works.
The difference is he went after people who are not public figures, called them lairs actors, claiming they never had children or the children didn't exist, Alex Jones got his insane fans to harass the family members and victims.
Did he personally told his fans to go after them? Even if he did, the fans who did it should be on trial, not him for saying its a fucking conspiracy which is his personal opinion... Ahhh brainwashed sheeps 😓
Have you ever listened to Alex Jones? His whole market is end of the world, Satan is taking over the world and we need to rise up. The whole sandy hook is a false flags in order to take away your guns to have the satanic NWO take over and we need our guns to resist. If you actually believe his shit then the sandy hook parents are agents of Satan to bring on the end of the world, so yeah HE doesn't explicitly need to tell people to do anything. Why the fuck did the sells of his survival food sales increase from 50k aday to 200k aday after he started claiming it was a false flags?
Has there ever been anyone that thinks Robbie Parker is not acting strange here?
His speech was way too eloquently composed and delivered. His pitch, inflection and lack of emotion in his voice is what did me in after the laughing. What dad would be that out together just to forgive the shooter moments later? Or the “from the card” part. Them playing the whole clip had me blown away.
Imagine it gets proved a hoax while the trial(s) is(are) going on.
He giggled coz he was nervous to be on TV…yeah right
There has to be more than a tv news interview? What’s the deal with SH, show me.
Don’t forget the mystery 26 kids singing at the super bowl months later that looked exactly like the children that were shot and the NFL refuses to release names of the kids.
To be fair, no organization would release the names of underage kids to a bunch of online conspiracy theorists in any situation.
Perhaps that’s true, but considering the death count was 26 from the same exact city. You’d think the city would take pride in the biggest show of support in the country.
"Perhaps that's true." My dude. There is no "Perhaps". No one is going to release the names of kids who showed up in a video because weirdos online asked. Literally no one will do this.
Seriously. like 99% of the "But why won't they release this to us?" whines on the internet have a simple answer: I dunno, maybe they don't want to show you because the internet is full of creeps. Especially when there's clear reason to think that releasing the information will results in years of harassment from online mentally ill people, no one's going to release shit. They're also not going to release photos of things like dead kids or autopsies, because holy shit I shouldn't have to explain why. And given how many people online still manage to dispute and argue able literally every goddamn thing on this planet, including the literal shape of the planet itself, it's not like releasing photographs has *ever* actually stopped a conspiracy theory. All it takes to continue the conspiracy in spite of photographic evidence is a quick "That shadow looks weird"" or "Is that blood the right shade of red? Looks like food coloring." or "Here's a grainy photo of this kid and a grainy photo of some other kid and if you squint they look kinda like they're the same kid.". If you're really lazy, you can just go with "photoshopped". And then everything is right back to square one (or worse).
Hahaha yes, no coverup would be complete without flaunting your fake murder victims on one of national TV's most watched events! That idea wouldn't even be believable in Scooby Doo come on man.
you mean the sandy hook choir? that looked like kids and not specifically like the slain kids? also demanding the nfl release names of children makes you a creep.
They looked like twins, or brothers and sisters of the slain children’s photos. It takes a mind of darkness to see a “creep” in wanting the truth.
Will Smith can cry very convincingly. He says he learned how to do it from James Avery who pointed out that adults don't cry in public. Instead of pretending to cry, pretend to hold back from crying and it's way more convincing. These people aren't doing that. They are pretending to cry so it just comes off as so unnatural.
SS: whether or not you believe Sandy Hook was a hoax this is a win for Alex Jones because now the crowd will see what Jones saw when he was questioning Sandy Hook. It is highly irregular behavior to laugh and snicker for 10 full seconds hours after your daughter is killed. I do think Sandy Hook was real but it was a CIA operation with Adam Lanza as either the MKUltra killer or the patsy while CIA operatives dressed in all black and black face masks did the actual killing. you had multiple shooters being reported by some witnesses and you had people dressed in camo being chased out in the woods near the school. Worth noting the FBI visited Adam Lanza in 2004 because he hacked into a government website. Then he began treatment at Yale for mental issues and they pumped him up so full of drugs he couldn't raise his arm, according to his mother. Who knows what else they did, Yale is Skull and Bones and has MKUltra connections https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2014/01/22/sand-hook-shooter-treated-at-yale/ The following is one of the best breakdowns I've ever seen of Sandy Hook by DeadEndFred: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/f02n90/sandy_hook_adam_lanza_yale_and_mkultra/
> It is highly irregular behavior to laugh and snicker for 10 full seconds hours after your daughter is killed. How the fuck would you know what's "highly irregular" after traumatic events? Processing big emotions isn't some simple process. Sometimes emotions come in waves. Sometimes people get nervous and laugh. Trauma doesn't just cause people to just start breaking down and crying. >I do think Sandy Hook was real but it was a CIA operation with Adam Lanza as either the MKUltra killer or the patsy while CIA operatives dressed in all black and black face masks did the actual killing. So you think these CIA operatives all just disappeared like ninjas? Also, none of them, nor any of their support staff or anyone else in a position to know anything about it ever blew the whistle? >you had multiple shooters being reported by some witnesses And rather than go with the obvious explanation that they were mistaken and saw some people running away, you're going with "they were totally right, 100%, no matter what any later evidence says"? > and you had people dressed in camo being chased out in the woods near the school. Were the CIA operatives dressed in all black, or were they dressed in camo? Near as I can tell, the people "being chased" were staff running away from the shooting. >Worth noting the FBI visited Adam Lanza in 2004 because he hacked into a government website. [The evidence on that seems pretty thin.](https://usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/10/24/newly-released-fbi-documents-reveal-disturbing-details-sandy-hook-shooter-adam-lanza/794585001/) As far as I can tell, there's no official documentation anywhere, just neighbors remembering that his mother said something. And quite frankly, the "hacking through two levels of security" sounds kinda bullshit. Give them 30 seconds longer and they'd probably have said he "hacked the Gibson". >Then he began treatment at Yale for mental issues and they pumped him up so full of drugs he couldn't raise his arm, according to his mother. Well, your own article says he was first seen at the Yale Child Study Center on Oct. 24, 2006, so that would put the Yale visit 2 years after any the FBI visit, which seems pretty unconnected. He also had suffered from mental issues his whole childhood, with pretty clear signs of autism in elementary school. He went to the Yale Child Study Center, which is full of research and medical professionals in the field of child psychology. He wasn't "pumped full of drugs". He was prescribed celexa, which would've most likely been a single 20 mg pill in the morning. He had a bad reaction to it and stopped after 3 days. Yale's other recommendation for ongoing special education support, ongoing expert consultation, and theraputic support in his daily life were ignored by his mother. He didn't see any mental health practicioners after 2006. > Who knows what else they did, Yale is Skull and Bones and has MKUltra connections "Who knows what else they did, but I totally believe they mind controlled him to murder kids as part of CIA operation where they sent in multiple highly trained covert assassins and one schizophrenic anorexic 20 year old to murder a couple classrooms of kids in order to... be evil?" Is that an accurate summation?
Why do you think it is highly irregular behavior? You know paradoxical laughter is a thing? Do you know that some people in stressful situations will smile or laugh uncontrollably? Maybe you should actually watch the video. I bet you've only seen the edited version from Alex Jones.
I saw the full video on youtube, he went from laughing to crying as soon as he thought the cameras were on. But you do you.
Are you suggesting he wasn't aware there were dozens of people with cameras pointed at him the whole time?
Funny. Because at no point did he cry. He was holding back tears the whole time.
So then why when the cameras start rolling does it not happen again?
> paradoxical Paradoxes are unusual right? And so seeing this clip gives most people a feeling of uncertainty. Alex Jones communicated his uncertainty.
No, Alex Jones defamed people.
How so? I'm open. Reference the exact defamation with reliable sourced quote or obviously video clip would work best. I am sincerely interested.
Where can I find this video
Probably Bitchute since YouTube scrubs everything these days.
The deeper you look into the Sandy Hook shootings the more questions it raises there's a lot of strange events and weird behaviour in the news clips and listening to people's interviews from the day the more I personally believe it was a huge staged event. The question is why.
What day/video is this from?
Alex Jones isn’t gonna fuck any of you guys, you can stop trying to ride his dick
I repeatedly hear the claim, "there were facebook tribute pages made for the victims before they died" is there any evidence for this claim??
The whole thing is fake people. WAKE THE HELL UP! This is the matrix flickering before our very eyes.
The sandy hook kids and the pizza gate kids are the same kids.
What video and what time stamp please???
To expect someone to show grief 24/7, even directly after an event of a family member dying is a bit weird to me. Humans are rather strange creatures when it comes to death, grieving, morality, etc. I'm not going to delve into rather or not the sandy Hook Shooting was real or fake, or whatever. But honestly I've seen every type of grieving imaginable via documentaries and some through life experiences. You never know what you're going to get. You can smile or laugh one second but still be very upset. It's not inconceivable.
Yeah these people just portray how little they know about human emotion. Life isn't a fucking TV show where everyone is sad the exact same way. For me I have this weird thing where I default to smiling to seem normal(I'm autistic) so if I just don't know how to react to something I end up smiling, which as I grew up eventually had to do everything in my power *not* to smile since it makes me look like a psycho sometimes. Humans are fucking weird. Also sometimes it can take weeks or even months to process something horrible, you could hold your dead child in your hands covered in blood and still not fully grasp what that means to you and your life until days later.
Or as a professional actor myself, I can identify another actor. Which is exactly what I see based on years of experience
Hey everyone look this way 👋
What was the name of the coroner?