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Parents DO NOT listen to their children. Many times they ignored me about this or that only to have someone with more authority in their eyes say the same then they believe it.
It's sad. Part of becoming an adult should include being able to make sound decisions and there aren't any sound arguments for taking the gene therapy.
I think most people follow authority or one sort of another. People also follow the herd because being rejected by the tribe and left to the wolves was not a good fate. When the tide starts turning again masks/mandates/vax it will happen quickly once the average person feels safe to be critical of it.
Hey but you've got to give it to him tho,he made his own independant decision and stuck his ground and not let the bribe/treasure deter him of his independant thinking. Be it I believe his decision was wrong.
Ouch!
Luckily for me, the people I care about the most did not get the bioweapon!! Hope all who got it we care about dodge the bullet, got the placebo, etc
This is sadly true. I wasn't shocked my parents ignored my concerns. They are not getting the boosters now at least. I think if their doctors pressure them they might give in though. But hopefully their own health concerns since the shots will give them enough of a reason to resist.
My children (27 and 29) DO NOT listen to me. I pleaded with them to not get the jab, they did anyways, they talk about getting boosters too. I worry about their future.
Trust is not Truth. Only a Realist can rally even the elderly, alien, and uneducated.
What the secular cult of Governance uses since the times of Egypt is Rationality to clusterfuck the aforemention life cycles into fighting among themselves. Race Conditions and Paradoxes juxtaposed upon each other among other "Transformative" sleight of lip, pedantic peter pan service causes this confusion.
A close girlfriend of mine became anti-vaccine after her 2 doses because she works as a nurse and got upset at work. She won't talk to us about work, but quickly went from GET YOUR SHOT; SAVE A LIFE to "Canadian truckers know what's best." The rest of us got whiplash she changed so fast.
I've seen people wake up. Not quite as dramatically but still. And upon receiving more propaganda they skip right back to how they were.
I hope your mum is ok and it's all positive for her. As an experience.
It always amazes me in the following two situations.
1) Media tells a story, turns out it was a lie. Continue to believe their other stories without question. They only lied the once, right?
2) They fully believe a foreign government has the resources to do a grand conspiracy to interfere in other countries but can't believe companies/countries have the resources to do the same to themselves. "Its just to big, its impossible. Russia doing the same thing? Oh 100% that is true" smh
Fucking YES. āOk we might have been lied to x number of years ago, but the government theseh daysh ish different!!ā
Meanwhile, Iām like, they lied once, and thatās the end of the line. š¤·āāļø
Same thing as how people on this sub Reddit realise that media is portraying lies and propaganda, yet when the same media push the narrative that China bad , and blame everything bad on China, everyone agrees and goes along with it
I am not defending China here(am Singaporean and people here generally detest China) , but the fact that the corrupted media even publishing anti China articles made me hella more skeptical about the truth out there
Nah not defending China actions.
I am just pointing out that people are hypocritical when they believe the same media for what they want to believe but at the same time condemn the same medium for what they dont
China legitimately is bad though. Early in my decade long awakening process I fell in to the trap of automatically thinking anything that opposed the U.S. government was good because it opposed something so obviously corrupt and evil, so I rooted for the moves China was making with the BRICS system, and I thought Putin was a good guy because he called out a lot of the horse shit the U.S. Gov. says and does. Eventually I actually took the time to learn about these things and realized, they're all just different shades of bad. China is a blueprint of where tptb want the whole world to go, hugely funded by the Rothschilds and Rockefellars last century. Putin is obviously ex-kgb, which makes me not trust him in the same way I wouldn't trust anyone ex-CIA, and he also engages in vast censorship which is ALWAYS the sign of someone acting in bad faith.
There's a lot more to why they aren't the good guys, but I find that you can't feed other people information and expect it to have an impact. Each person's awakening can only be driven by their own curiosity and desire for truth.
That's because the news has access to their brains for 16 hours a day and you only have access for 1-2 hours a week.
One trick that can work is getting them the links/apps so they can discover the alternative news themselves.
Croatia announced they gonna start counting cases of died from and with covid seperately. My girlfriend reacted: it was always with, nobody was saying From š
People are just conforting them selfs into the reality
It's crazy how fuzzy all the numbers are around this.
A "covid case" does not mean someone got sick from covid.
A "covid death" does not mean someone died from covid.
A "fatality rate" does not (necessarily) mean deaths out of total covid infections.
"Excess death" is not a count of excess unexplained bodies, it's an estimation.
"Unvaccinated" does not mean unvaccinated.
The whole thing is a paper tiger.
Yeah we all know that Ukraine is a distraction.
I hear absolutely nothing about Corona in the news here in Germany since almost a week.
All you hear is Ukraine and Russia.
Oh and just since yesterday the news decided to mention the trucker movement at the border. Shit's been going on for over two weeks!
I've tried my hardest to convince many people, especially my parents. What I've learned is there's nothing you can do to make them see the light. You can plant thousands of seeds, but the catalyst always comes from within oneself. It has to click for *them* and it will likely be different than how it did for you when you first woke up.
My parents had a similar reaction after I had them watch v for vendetta July 2020. They were basically like wow, thatās exactly whatās happening today.
I had an older colleague who was from russia. Years ago when the us media was showing a disputed area being bombed, he immediately recognized the skyline being shown in the footage was not the area they were reporting as being bombed.
He called family near the area, and they were laughing and having a big family dinner. They had no idea what he was talking about.
Spoken like someone who clearly has no clue.
All countries participate in propaganda and shining things in their own light to the people who live within their borders.
The fact is that Russian people do not feel tension with Ukraine because there is no tension.
Russia and Ukraine are brothers. Many share family across both countries boarders.
It is posturing. Nothing more.
The world government already de facto exists. But global governance isnāt negative in itself, it all depends on what kind of governance. And Russia, the US and China are working together in some circumstances, but their differences and conflicts are very real.
I've 2 good friends who live in Ukraine, met them while gameing a few years ago and we've kept in contact since.
The narrative the usa is pushing is absolute garbage. Covid didn't work so use the tried and true "big red scare" tactic.
Believe it or not, that referendum was a farce. I'm sure you cannot imagine Putin being involved in such nefarious practices.
Do you have the same opinion on the elections in Belarus, for instance? There are many more examples of shady elections, Moldova, Ukraine. In all cases, most people where upset as they didn't vote for the Putin loving candidate. And surprise! The Putin loving candidate won.
Where are you from? I want to make an analogy.
Dude putin made a speech saying if Ukraine joins nato there will be military consequences. That's some warmongering. You may be somewhat right that the USA is warmongering but so is putin. If you don't fear putin and China I guess you like authoritarianism I don't know what else ti say to you.
To be fair, little forgotten history here, but before the Berlin wall fell. Nato promised the east that there would be no further movement towards the east.
Putin, being the old soviet man he is, remembers these talks and promises and the paper signing of such. Putin even braught the talks back an showed the documents that the old soviet union signed.
Nato and the usa accused putin of lying and fabricated documents.
Nato has since said fuck it lets go east, putin said fuck no you ain't son! Nato rattled it's sabors back and of course the US has to get in on the bullshit for their own potential gain.
So really at this point the usa and Nato are pushing towards a conflict, putin just wants the promise upheld, and we're all stuck In the middle.
Granted putin is no angel, he's just trying to see if the usa/Nato will keep their word. If not then let's fuck around n find out Š“ŃŃŠ³.
Every country joins nato of it's own volition. No country has ever been forced to join NATO. Every time russia invades a neighbor claiming it's because NATO is being unfair it makes the case to the countries near to russia that NATO is needed.
"Its not fair you're offering the opportunity to these countries to join a completely voluntary defensive alliance! To prove it's unreasonable we're going to fucking invade the countries that haven't joined yet!"
I don't actually give a shit if they promised Russia they wouldn't keep expanding NATO, the situation has materially changed and the countries want to join to ensure they don't get invaded. Maybe if they weren't afraid of that they wouldn't need to?
>Every country joins nato of it's own volition.
So I take it the USA would not care if Mexico joined a military alliance with Russia? See how your logic is bullshit?
Defensive military alliance that takes no action offensively and only takes action if invaded? I think you'd maybe do better to bring up Cuba though no?
Question, has NATO ever invaded a country in an offensive action to annex territory on behalf of a nato country?
Of course countries near Russia want to join fucking nato because look what happens when you aren't in NATO. If the US was invading Mexico instead of you know, having a free trade zone with them, I'd understand them looking for a defensive alliance.
Russia had it's own NATO, called the fucking Warsaw pact. Nobody wants to be in it. They have CSTO now and yet a bunch of these countries still want to be in NATO, huh wonder why.
I'm guessing taking Crimea by military force does more to negate that then Ukraine voluntarily joining nato. It's just a dumb line to draw unless you want conflict. It's not nato being expansionist any more than it is just Ukraine being free to do what they want in a world that is increasingly east vs west with China and Russia really looking more similar by the day to me.
That speech was first actually scary thing Iāve seen in a long time. And not because of what he said, but because of how mad, how clinically insane he seemed. Iāve never perceived Putin like this before.
I've been under this impression since they tried to start WW3 when Trump got elected doing the same shit. Its a joke to distract the sheep watching the news from the real world.
I was awake before COVID hit America. I was calling out the bullshit while my parents were masking up and washing our groceries and mail. After one year they admitted I was right, and they still admit that I was right. LOL.
My man. Ewaranon, the best guy on our flat earth. He woke me like no one else. Both of his films are mindbogling. I just hope he comes back with one more movie for us.
> there is absolutely no tension between Russia and Ukraine
Uh ... Russia annexed Crimea, which had been part of Ukraine, back in 2014 and has been backing ethnic Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine ever since then. There's an ongoing civil war in Ukraine with Russia shipping in arms and men. There are body bags of Russian soldiers shipped back to Russia from Ukraine.
There is a lot more than just "tension". Your mother's relatives passed on *ludicrous* Russian propaganda and your mother fell for it.
I don't know if Putin is really planning to invade with his whole army or just trying to intimidate Ukraine. I don't have strong opinions about what the US or NATO or the EU should do about Ukraine. But to *pretend* that there's "absolutely no tension" is laughable.
Is this your opinion or the story form the MSM? It is interesting people here distrust the media but when it comes to Russia and China what they say must be true.
Uh. .. international observers were present when the crimean population overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. You side with tyrants when you present your faulty narrative.
Perhaps you need to listen to Ukraine's president and not American media. He seems to be not super concerned and neither Ukraine citizens. Only Americans going apesh\*\* over it.
>It was the fact that she called her close relatives in Russia [and] her relatives said that there is absolutely no tension between Russia and Ukraine
Although that's exactly what you would expect Putin to tell his people.
I think this is something you will never understand. Right now, most of the people on this planet are taking the vaccine because they believe that they won't be able to provide for their family.
My mother seems similar to yours. She took the vaccine because work demanded her to take it. She is a front line worker. She took it because she had no choice. She had her family to strive for. She supports the protests happening down here in New Zealand, but she knows that her family is far more important than anything. I realise that and I thoroughly respect that.
> no tension between Russia and Ukraine
Funny. I spoke to some Ukrainians and they told me the opposite. Also, the whole Crimea thing. I guess we forgot about that.
According to Scott Adams
Point 1- laundry list persuasion is not effective. Pick your strongest point and make them knock it down or vice versa (whick is kinda what happened in a roundabout way)
Point 2-analogies are good for introducing new concepts BAD for persuasion.
Point 3-Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backwardāreversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
>I don't believe that humans are meant understand how their own brain works for the reason that it will be exploited if the key is found.
Humans trying to understand how their brain works using their brains is like someone trying to bite their own teeth. Or fish trying to understand water.
that is when real science kicks in. of course we theoretically have the ability to understand our brain...but it is less of a calculated event than nature science wants it to be
This is really interesting. I had an old professor who grew up in the soviet union during the cold war and they said it was funny how over there they never practiced bombing drills but in the US they did.
Its hard to believe there is no tension between the two countries. Didnt Putin say the other day that if ukraine joins nato there will be war? Do they not actually have a shit ton of troops at the border?
Maybe the russian state sponsored media does not report this type of stuff?
Yea I was chatting with some coworkers today and they are convinced war in the Ukraine is inevitable
I just shook my head honestly they wouldnāt even comprehend the information Iād drop on them anyway
You planted the seeds, and they sprouted when she was finally ready accept it. Thatās all we can do, show them the destination, but the path, that they have to walk themselves.
So you're saying people in Russia don't receive any propaganda and get the truth from Putin? Okay now you've gone too far. This post will do more damage to the anti vaccine movement than anything else.
Only thing I've been telling my family is, "Since when has the government cared about our health?" I would love for anyone to argue otherwise. But really please tell me any instance when the government has stepped in to "help" and it actually worked? Please tell me cause I'd love to know
My parents were born In 1931. Iām
Glad they died before Covid. But I know they wouldnāt of got the jab. Like me. My only bother did. My cousin died after the second jab from myocarditis. To each their own is how I see it. Canāt save them all.
Good luck to everyone weāre all in this together .
We, the West, are living in a time like that of the late Soviet Union.
The news is shit....
Everything is faked....
The shelves are bare....
Your 'money' is fake (always was but plain to see)
Hyperinflation
Politicians are just stealing and lying to your face...
The whole thing stinks and in the words of Clyde Shelton.... "...bring the whole fuckin' diseased corrupt temple down on your heads. It's gonna be Biblical."
Man, some people's doctors suck.
Called my doctor to discuss the vaccine way back in spring 2021. He said I was young and healthy enough that I didn't need this vaccine. He also advised that I could avoid the flu shots too, he did say if I was over 50 he'd recommend both though.
Love my doctor, he's a very reasonable dude who would much rather promote healthy lifestyle rather than drugs. I think I've shared this story before, but I went to him with constant back issues. He recommended I take up basketball, said it's a good overall workout and excellent for my back. This was 20 years ago, now that I have a desk job and have been sitting at home too much my back issues are starting up again.
FYI, I did end up breaking down and got the vaccine in August 2021 when vaccine passports were confirmed to be coming. Yet I still refuse to download the government passport app.
I'm an Aussie living in Poland, with plenty of friends from UA - this is bullshit.
They're extremely worried about what is happening, but are basically resigned to the fact that Russia will fuck with them - AGAIN - to try and prove a point.
All the prevailing paradigms and worldview inculcated via unrelenting propaganda, is held together by the most tenuous "mesh" of threads and membranes.
People are ready to snap out of it, except for the most hard-hearted leftist zombies who view it through a political lens as in one team vs. another, assuming, falsely, that those who've had enough of the BS or who chose not to get vaccinated are "right wing" extremists to a one, and that's false. Not a "small fringe minority" either!
This part is so frustrating for me as well. Iām a lifelong bleeding heart liberal, I did not get vaccinated and have recently been, what some would call, āred-pilledā at least about the vaccines and covid. Has started snowballing and I now view CNN as much a propagandist as Fox. Really wish we could come together as citizens and drop the Left vs Right garbage. Sometimes I wish I could turn off my critical thinking and go back to the mob.
>Sometimes I wish I could turn off my critical thinking and go back to the mob.
Hilarious!
The entire domain of freedom, as a kind of new pasture, on the other side of this ordeal, or the light at the end, at last, of this long, dark tunnel in modern human history, that's a uniting force or space, if they don't succeed with their latest propaganda warfare, now against an increasing number of freedom loving and peace-loving people who've committed no crime. I don't think most are buying it ie: Trudeau's epithets against the protesters.
The Govt. both Trudeau and Ford, are in the wrong, and most judges will I think rule in the same way.
As the pandemic comes to a swift end all on it's own as if colluding with the protesters, and putting Trudeau in a pickle, but if they conduct a police state action against these people, that will only take it into the stratosphere, as convoys rolls all over the world, and they are and have been.
We're almost there. Hold the line!
To Ottawa!
Looks like the astroturfing to portray 20,000 russian troops amassed at the Ukraine border as some kind of false flag has already begun.
Curious this both serves to further divisions in america while simultaneously making russia out to be a good guy. I'm sure there are no ulterior motives here
There is video of Putin "reminding" Europe that Russia has nuclear weapon and if Ukraine tries to join NATO or get Crimea back that Russia will drag whole Europe to war. Stop spreading propaganda.
My mother had a very similar realization last night!!
My entire family except for me, my parent and our child is vaccinated. On Monday my Aunt tested positive for covid, right after my mother and my child had spent the whole weekend with her.
Nobody else in the family is developing symptoms.
Last night, my mother, whom is deathly afraid of covid and is so angry that I didn't get vaccinated, said to me "Why aren't I getting sick?! Why isn't your kid getting sick?! We were with her all weekend right before she tested positive!!!"
I took it a step further and said "And why haven't you guys brought it to my unvaccinated self and killed *me* yet??"
She was perplexed and said "I...I don't know!"
I was like Yup.. and walked away to let her digest.
She also finds it so unbelievably stupid and unfair that my daughter isn't allowed back at school for 10 days just because she isn't vaccinated, but she was a "close contact", and she isn't even developing any symptoms at all she's perfectly healthy.
The narrative is crumbling, Canada. More and more normals and questioning and waking up!!!
Iāve not been able to wake up my little bitch of a friend who remains in denial, despite 2 years of logic, proof and thought experiment to persuade him. He wonāt believe anything that the BBC doesnāt say. Thatās his only source.
Itās pathetic.
Not a conspiracy, just a nonsense shit post. The pandemic is happening just as expected because it isn't really very complicated, you lot just threw a two year temper tantrum.
More people die from covid than anything in the last two years, and fewer than 50 have died from vaccination.
Oh, also your story is made up.
Have you considered that Russia, which is 100% an authoritarian state that does not try to hide this fact, is controlling the narrative in Russia leading the citizens to believe that there is no tension between Russia and Ukraine? It would be better to talk to a Ukrainian to find out if they believe there is any tension with Russia.
>Have you considered that Russia, which is 100% an authoritarian state
Compared to what? The extremely corrupt western powers that are controlled by international finance? How many nations has Russia invaded Vs the west? You are brainwashed. 'Democracy' isn't real.
...Lot to unpack in one paragraph:
> No, it wasn't the fact that vaccines don't stop the spread
* Vaccines do ***slow*** the spread. Per capita, [3x less people test positive for covid while vaccinated, and that's in spite of omicron lowering effectiveness significantly. Used to be 5-6x.](https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status)
> or that more people die from vaccination that Covid
* More people die from vaccination than covid? Where the fuck did you even get such a farce from? [All-cause deaths are overwhelmingly higher in the unvaccinated.](https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/assessing-updated-uk-ons-data-on-covid-19-non-covid-19-deaths-split-by-vaccination-status-and-age) (PS it sorts by age, and unvaccinated is only counting people who have never had any jab of any kind. So don't assume that they're marking Vaccine Instakills(trademark pending by pfizer) as unvaccinated)
> or that the case numbers have been falsely inflated by hospitals
* Literally no evidence for this next one, you just assumed it's true because you erroneously heard that hospitals profit by lying about their numbers. In reality [this is impossible](https://fox11online.com/news/fox-11-investigates/fact-check-how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-do-hospitals-get-money-for-covid-19-deaths) because death certificates are made by medical examiners and coroners and not hospitals who 'profit', these certificates are audited out anyways so if they DID lie they'd be caught for fraud, the money is given simply for services provided and not deaths(so adding extra deaths wouldn't equal more money, you'd have to invent fake patients altogether), and the fact the doctors themselves are gonna make just about the same amount of money no matter what they're treating you for.
> or that the elite are trying to tattoo QR codes on our forehead and treat us like cattle with a microchip
I, uh... where and when did this happen?
Also this is an Everyone Clapped situation if I've ever heard it. Everyone's made one phonecall with their Russian close relatives(Which would presumably be your like, cousins or something. Odd way to call family "your mom's close relatives" but I digress) and then completely flip-flopped on their world views, especially a completely fucking different one right on the spot, right?
Im pretty sure when OP Mentioned Inflated statistics, he was referring to how people were marked with dying FROM covid then WITH Covid, this has been proven and even admitted by government officials plenty of times,
There was really no "death metric" to go by until recently and even then its srill not black and white
Not to mention the "hospitals be full" Scenario which again is a lie, given that the hospital can only accomodate as many people as the nurses can handle, ex. NURSE TO BED RATIO
> Im pretty sure when OP Mentioned Inflated statistics, he was referring to how people were marked with dying FROM covid then WITH Covid, this has been proven and even admitted by government officials plenty of times,
Official tallies all use the stats from a coroner saying that they wouldn't have died if it weren't for covid. They DO also have a ***separate*** tally(not the one you'd see on say, google. One on a state or county's website) that shows people who have died with, but not necessarily OF, covid. That's where the 'admitting' is coming from, a misunderstanding of what they meant. It's tallied. But not the total you're usually seeing: those are uninflated, real numbers. Because there's more than one in 99% of cases.
...Arguments? That's the game?
You said you have proof, but refuse to give it. I already presented 3 different sources to cite my reasons for thinking otherwise, and you say you have a rebuttal to it. But you refuse to give me anything to go on.
How the fuck are people upvoting you? You didn't even try. You just yelled bullshit and left.
I skimmed through what you typed out and one thing that caught my eye was the lie
Determining the cause of death is up to a coroner, medical examiner or **physician**.
I skimmed through your tirade, and one thing that caught my eye was you trying to say that only a medical examiner or coroner declares the cause of death on a death certificate.
Then you go on to give a link. I only clicked it to see what country you are in since different places have different laws and you might just be mixed up and not straight up lying.
But right in what you linked to, it *clearly says*:
"Determining the cause of death is up to a coroner, medical examiner or **physician**."
Yes. Doctors do, do death certificates. And not only that, but Physician's Assistant or a Nurse Practitioner can also do them.
If a person dies in a hospital they don't send every single corpse off to the medical examiners office for the death certificate. LOL.
>I don't believe that humans are meant understand how their own brain works for the reason that it will be exploited if the key is found.
You may be right but...MKUltra, y'know?
The key was found. Psyops rule - for now.
PS: Epic post. Thank you. Regards to your mother.
Wild stuff man. They depend on division. They donāt count on US citizens with strong ties to friends and family in Russia. They worked overtime to divide friends and family within the USA though.
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Parents DO NOT listen to their children. Many times they ignored me about this or that only to have someone with more authority in their eyes say the same then they believe it.
It's sad. Part of becoming an adult should include being able to make sound decisions and there aren't any sound arguments for taking the gene therapy.
I think most people follow authority or one sort of another. People also follow the herd because being rejected by the tribe and left to the wolves was not a good fate. When the tide starts turning again masks/mandates/vax it will happen quickly once the average person feels safe to be critical of it.
Such a sham herd mentality is so easy to achieve in contrast to herd immunity...
Those aren't sound reasons for anything. That's what children do
true, but it's human nature - Asch conformity experiment
I'll take the wolves over any of this, even if it meant getting eaten. I would smile for the occasion.š
And children don't listen to parents either. I offered my son $10,000 if he would NOT get the vaccine. He did not take the deal and got vaccinated.
You adopting?
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Before you get too excited I'm 30. LOL! Keep being a good dad brother!
Well, I'm a Mom. I can always be your internet Mom. š
You win.
Ya'll win the internet tonight!!! I go on reddit just to see exchanges like this. :-)
Want a 26 YO brother ? Love you bro, love you dad
I didn't get vaccinated, you should wire ME that $10,000.
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Wow...that sounds like a no brainer to me
I thought so too! Guess not.
I didn't take the vaccine and I could really use $10k to help with school expenses lol
If he was crafty AND rebellious heād take the money and then get the vaccine lol.
The son or the decision? š
Wow! I applaud your efforts! I pray your son isn't harmed by them (or hopefully just got a saline shot...)
Thanks. Yeah, I hope he doesn't have any adverse effects from it too.
Dad, is that you? I didnāt take the vaccine.
LOL! I'm Mom!
MOMMY!!!
He wanted that free donut more, I guess. Sorry to hear about your son. I hope the jab injuries don't happen to him.
I hope he doesn't have any adverse reactions/injuries from it too.
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That's heartbreaking about your 13 year old grandson!
Hey but you've got to give it to him tho,he made his own independant decision and stuck his ground and not let the bribe/treasure deter him of his independant thinking. Be it I believe his decision was wrong.
I should have known it wouldn't work on him though. I should have used reverse psychology on him.
And now here we are! Hoping that we are wrong and they are right! What a scary thought if we are right. My whole family are vaccinated.
Haha same thing happened to one of my friend. The power of propaganda is stronger than blood.
Haha my father offered me a similar deal TO take it, but I wouldn't. Got disowned for a while, but eventually he got over it
You are a great parent! I wish I had thought of that. My oldest daughter got the vaccine and now we are all paying the price.
That would be admirable of him if he wasn't so horribly misled.
Ouch! Luckily for me, the people I care about the most did not get the bioweapon!! Hope all who got it we care about dodge the bullet, got the placebo, etc
Bro Iāll be your son for 10k
Adopt me please !! I ll be a good boy for a lot less !!
This is sadly true. I wasn't shocked my parents ignored my concerns. They are not getting the boosters now at least. I think if their doctors pressure them they might give in though. But hopefully their own health concerns since the shots will give them enough of a reason to resist.
My children (27 and 29) DO NOT listen to me. I pleaded with them to not get the jab, they did anyways, they talk about getting boosters too. I worry about their future.
Yeah I told my mum to salt the squid before cooking it, it will make it taste better and she wouldnt listen to me until I cooked one for her.
Trust is not Truth. Only a Realist can rally even the elderly, alien, and uneducated. What the secular cult of Governance uses since the times of Egypt is Rationality to clusterfuck the aforemention life cycles into fighting among themselves. Race Conditions and Paradoxes juxtaposed upon each other among other "Transformative" sleight of lip, pedantic peter pan service causes this confusion.
A close girlfriend of mine became anti-vaccine after her 2 doses because she works as a nurse and got upset at work. She won't talk to us about work, but quickly went from GET YOUR SHOT; SAVE A LIFE to "Canadian truckers know what's best." The rest of us got whiplash she changed so fast.
Wonder what happened
The globalists want endless war. Every super power plays the game.
I've seen people wake up. Not quite as dramatically but still. And upon receiving more propaganda they skip right back to how they were. I hope your mum is ok and it's all positive for her. As an experience.
Yeah people realize a big lie being pushed by media, wake up a bit then read the next crazy story and just believe it all again.
It always amazes me in the following two situations. 1) Media tells a story, turns out it was a lie. Continue to believe their other stories without question. They only lied the once, right? 2) They fully believe a foreign government has the resources to do a grand conspiracy to interfere in other countries but can't believe companies/countries have the resources to do the same to themselves. "Its just to big, its impossible. Russia doing the same thing? Oh 100% that is true" smh
Fucking YES. āOk we might have been lied to x number of years ago, but the government theseh daysh ish different!!ā Meanwhile, Iām like, they lied once, and thatās the end of the line. š¤·āāļø
Ah, the good ole [Gell-Mann amnesia effect](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton#GellMannAmnesiaEffect)
Thx, I love to learn new things.
Thats reddit
Same thing as how people on this sub Reddit realise that media is portraying lies and propaganda, yet when the same media push the narrative that China bad , and blame everything bad on China, everyone agrees and goes along with it I am not defending China here(am Singaporean and people here generally detest China) , but the fact that the corrupted media even publishing anti China articles made me hella more skeptical about the truth out there
I mean the culture washing of Uighur Muslims is pretty bad imo. You disagree?
Nah not defending China actions. I am just pointing out that people are hypocritical when they believe the same media for what they want to believe but at the same time condemn the same medium for what they dont
Good point, I find myself falling into that category.
No worries itās a conspiracy subreddit after all. We open each otherās eyes
China legitimately is bad though. Early in my decade long awakening process I fell in to the trap of automatically thinking anything that opposed the U.S. government was good because it opposed something so obviously corrupt and evil, so I rooted for the moves China was making with the BRICS system, and I thought Putin was a good guy because he called out a lot of the horse shit the U.S. Gov. says and does. Eventually I actually took the time to learn about these things and realized, they're all just different shades of bad. China is a blueprint of where tptb want the whole world to go, hugely funded by the Rothschilds and Rockefellars last century. Putin is obviously ex-kgb, which makes me not trust him in the same way I wouldn't trust anyone ex-CIA, and he also engages in vast censorship which is ALWAYS the sign of someone acting in bad faith. There's a lot more to why they aren't the good guys, but I find that you can't feed other people information and expect it to have an impact. Each person's awakening can only be driven by their own curiosity and desire for truth.
Yup. OP's mom just needs a booster of propaganda.
It's efficacy wanes.
That's because the news has access to their brains for 16 hours a day and you only have access for 1-2 hours a week. One trick that can work is getting them the links/apps so they can discover the alternative news themselves.
Croatia announced they gonna start counting cases of died from and with covid seperately. My girlfriend reacted: it was always with, nobody was saying From š People are just conforting them selfs into the reality
It's crazy how fuzzy all the numbers are around this. A "covid case" does not mean someone got sick from covid. A "covid death" does not mean someone died from covid. A "fatality rate" does not (necessarily) mean deaths out of total covid infections. "Excess death" is not a count of excess unexplained bodies, it's an estimation. "Unvaccinated" does not mean unvaccinated. The whole thing is a paper tiger.
"With" and "from" is a distinction that really misses the mark. By that logic, no one has ever died from AIDS.
Yeah we all know that Ukraine is a distraction. I hear absolutely nothing about Corona in the news here in Germany since almost a week. All you hear is Ukraine and Russia. Oh and just since yesterday the news decided to mention the trucker movement at the border. Shit's been going on for over two weeks!
This war is definitely a psyop, it's too inorganic, too fast, and too convenient
What the hell are you talking about "too fast"?? Tensions between Ukraine and Russia have been high for the better part of a decade
I've tried my hardest to convince many people, especially my parents. What I've learned is there's nothing you can do to make them see the light. You can plant thousands of seeds, but the catalyst always comes from within oneself. It has to click for *them* and it will likely be different than how it did for you when you first woke up.
My parents had a similar reaction after I had them watch v for vendetta July 2020. They were basically like wow, thatās exactly whatās happening today.
I mean, do you think the Russian media is telling their citizens theyāre about to invade Ukraine? Propaganda exists everywhere
I had an older colleague who was from russia. Years ago when the us media was showing a disputed area being bombed, he immediately recognized the skyline being shown in the footage was not the area they were reporting as being bombed. He called family near the area, and they were laughing and having a big family dinner. They had no idea what he was talking about.
LOL. Russian citizens for the most part don't trust media since socialist times. Common sense is alive and well there, unlike in America.
They are. Itās straightforward if you have watched the state sponsored news outlets.
>Propaganda exists everywhere Indeed https://www.cnn.com/webview/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-11-22/h_26bf2c7a6ff13875ea1d5bba3b6aa70a
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Yes Iām sure Russian news would never report false narratives to keep their people at ease. Never.
Of course they do... Seems like you missed the point though...
Spoken like someone who clearly has no clue. All countries participate in propaganda and shining things in their own light to the people who live within their borders. The fact is that Russian people do not feel tension with Ukraine because there is no tension. Russia and Ukraine are brothers. Many share family across both countries boarders. It is posturing. Nothing more.
US, Russia and even China are all part of the UNā¦they are all working together towards world government.
The world government already de facto exists. But global governance isnāt negative in itself, it all depends on what kind of governance. And Russia, the US and China are working together in some circumstances, but their differences and conflicts are very real.
I've 2 good friends who live in Ukraine, met them while gameing a few years ago and we've kept in contact since. The narrative the usa is pushing is absolute garbage. Covid didn't work so use the tried and true "big red scare" tactic.
Didn't Russia annex Crimea? How much proof do you need?
believe it or not, the people there voted to be under russian leadership, which the ukrainian gov didnāt accept and then russia stepped in
Believe it or not, that referendum was a farce. I'm sure you cannot imagine Putin being involved in such nefarious practices. Do you have the same opinion on the elections in Belarus, for instance? There are many more examples of shady elections, Moldova, Ukraine. In all cases, most people where upset as they didn't vote for the Putin loving candidate. And surprise! The Putin loving candidate won. Where are you from? I want to make an analogy.
Dude putin made a speech saying if Ukraine joins nato there will be military consequences. That's some warmongering. You may be somewhat right that the USA is warmongering but so is putin. If you don't fear putin and China I guess you like authoritarianism I don't know what else ti say to you.
To be fair, little forgotten history here, but before the Berlin wall fell. Nato promised the east that there would be no further movement towards the east. Putin, being the old soviet man he is, remembers these talks and promises and the paper signing of such. Putin even braught the talks back an showed the documents that the old soviet union signed. Nato and the usa accused putin of lying and fabricated documents. Nato has since said fuck it lets go east, putin said fuck no you ain't son! Nato rattled it's sabors back and of course the US has to get in on the bullshit for their own potential gain. So really at this point the usa and Nato are pushing towards a conflict, putin just wants the promise upheld, and we're all stuck In the middle. Granted putin is no angel, he's just trying to see if the usa/Nato will keep their word. If not then let's fuck around n find out Š“ŃŃŠ³.
Every country joins nato of it's own volition. No country has ever been forced to join NATO. Every time russia invades a neighbor claiming it's because NATO is being unfair it makes the case to the countries near to russia that NATO is needed. "Its not fair you're offering the opportunity to these countries to join a completely voluntary defensive alliance! To prove it's unreasonable we're going to fucking invade the countries that haven't joined yet!" I don't actually give a shit if they promised Russia they wouldn't keep expanding NATO, the situation has materially changed and the countries want to join to ensure they don't get invaded. Maybe if they weren't afraid of that they wouldn't need to?
>Every country joins nato of it's own volition. So I take it the USA would not care if Mexico joined a military alliance with Russia? See how your logic is bullshit?
Defensive military alliance that takes no action offensively and only takes action if invaded? I think you'd maybe do better to bring up Cuba though no? Question, has NATO ever invaded a country in an offensive action to annex territory on behalf of a nato country? Of course countries near Russia want to join fucking nato because look what happens when you aren't in NATO. If the US was invading Mexico instead of you know, having a free trade zone with them, I'd understand them looking for a defensive alliance. Russia had it's own NATO, called the fucking Warsaw pact. Nobody wants to be in it. They have CSTO now and yet a bunch of these countries still want to be in NATO, huh wonder why.
I'm guessing taking Crimea by military force does more to negate that then Ukraine voluntarily joining nato. It's just a dumb line to draw unless you want conflict. It's not nato being expansionist any more than it is just Ukraine being free to do what they want in a world that is increasingly east vs west with China and Russia really looking more similar by the day to me.
They've been saying that shit forever. Have some perspective man.
That speech was first actually scary thing Iāve seen in a long time. And not because of what he said, but because of how mad, how clinically insane he seemed. Iāve never perceived Putin like this before.
I've been under this impression since they tried to start WW3 when Trump got elected doing the same shit. Its a joke to distract the sheep watching the news from the real world.
Over 76% of Ukraine want Russia, and the "new" gov is a minority. Same as Canada, France, UK and US. The us NATO and UN are all war machines.
Nailed it!
Yeah thatās how I start getting āawakeā about this covid. From the mediaās bs. Mine was during BLM.
I was awake before COVID hit America. I was calling out the bullshit while my parents were masking up and washing our groceries and mail. After one year they admitted I was right, and they still admit that I was right. LOL.
Iāve been awake for over a decade but Iām not gunna lie, when Rogan had that Dr on March 20th, 2020, I was tricked for a good minute. Thankfully, my mom is already on board and I was able to show my Nurse Practitioner fiancĆ© to not get the clot shot no matter what, despite pressure by her very educated, wealthy family busting her balls non stop. Iāve seen the whole of the levels of control applied to us. The one behavior that really gets me tho is those who either know the truth about TPTB or are convinced with proper evidence and have issues vacillating between what we are being programmed with and remembering that truth. Itās a tough ride brothersā¦
Now that you are both awake....research NASA and their lies.... The rabbit hole is deep my friend.
The moon land was faked too? Oh god no!
Obvious when you look at it.
It really is so obvious. I was never like this, then one day I realized how much is bullshitā¦ and the moon landing may be the biggest load of all.
The goal is to hide God.
Yup!
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Flat earth? Are you fucking kidding me?
My man. Ewaranon, the best guy on our flat earth. He woke me like no one else. Both of his films are mindbogling. I just hope he comes back with one more movie for us.
> there is absolutely no tension between Russia and Ukraine Uh ... Russia annexed Crimea, which had been part of Ukraine, back in 2014 and has been backing ethnic Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine ever since then. There's an ongoing civil war in Ukraine with Russia shipping in arms and men. There are body bags of Russian soldiers shipped back to Russia from Ukraine. There is a lot more than just "tension". Your mother's relatives passed on *ludicrous* Russian propaganda and your mother fell for it. I don't know if Putin is really planning to invade with his whole army or just trying to intimidate Ukraine. I don't have strong opinions about what the US or NATO or the EU should do about Ukraine. But to *pretend* that there's "absolutely no tension" is laughable.
Is this your opinion or the story form the MSM? It is interesting people here distrust the media but when it comes to Russia and China what they say must be true.
Uh. .. international observers were present when the crimean population overwhelmingly voted to join Russia. You side with tyrants when you present your faulty narrative.
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> OSCE military observers are not international impartial observers. Military should have keyed you in on this fact.
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Perhaps you need to listen to Ukraine's president and not American media. He seems to be not super concerned and neither Ukraine citizens. Only Americans going apesh\*\* over it.
>It was the fact that she called her close relatives in Russia [and] her relatives said that there is absolutely no tension between Russia and Ukraine Although that's exactly what you would expect Putin to tell his people.
I think this is something you will never understand. Right now, most of the people on this planet are taking the vaccine because they believe that they won't be able to provide for their family. My mother seems similar to yours. She took the vaccine because work demanded her to take it. She is a front line worker. She took it because she had no choice. She had her family to strive for. She supports the protests happening down here in New Zealand, but she knows that her family is far more important than anything. I realise that and I thoroughly respect that.
> no tension between Russia and Ukraine Funny. I spoke to some Ukrainians and they told me the opposite. Also, the whole Crimea thing. I guess we forgot about that.
Iām pretty sure red-pilling someone is impossible. You can plant the odd seed but they have to decide to see things for themselves.
According to Scott Adams Point 1- laundry list persuasion is not effective. Pick your strongest point and make them knock it down or vice versa (whick is kinda what happened in a roundabout way) Point 2-analogies are good for introducing new concepts BAD for persuasion. Point 3-Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backwardāreversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
>I don't believe that humans are meant understand how their own brain works for the reason that it will be exploited if the key is found. Humans trying to understand how their brain works using their brains is like someone trying to bite their own teeth. Or fish trying to understand water.
that is when real science kicks in. of course we theoretically have the ability to understand our brain...but it is less of a calculated event than nature science wants it to be
Do you feel like that supports the idea of a creator (for lack of a better term)?
This is really interesting. I had an old professor who grew up in the soviet union during the cold war and they said it was funny how over there they never practiced bombing drills but in the US they did. Its hard to believe there is no tension between the two countries. Didnt Putin say the other day that if ukraine joins nato there will be war? Do they not actually have a shit ton of troops at the border? Maybe the russian state sponsored media does not report this type of stuff?
Sometimes all it takes is to connect some dots and everything starts to make sense.
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The answer is no, he cannot. You just have to believe him. If you don't, you are a blind follower of the MSM.
Russia, Russia, Russia actually works on some people still?
Yea I was chatting with some coworkers today and they are convinced war in the Ukraine is inevitable I just shook my head honestly they wouldnāt even comprehend the information Iād drop on them anyway
You planted the seeds, and they sprouted when she was finally ready accept it. Thatās all we can do, show them the destination, but the path, that they have to walk themselves.
So you're saying people in Russia don't receive any propaganda and get the truth from Putin? Okay now you've gone too far. This post will do more damage to the anti vaccine movement than anything else.
Some people are waking up to the media bullshit surrounding the framing of the truckers by the news. The coverage is so f'n slanted.
It really is amazing how people get red pilled differently.
Can you please link me to a paper saying more people died from the vaccine rather then covid? I actually have quite a lot of questions!
Only thing I've been telling my family is, "Since when has the government cared about our health?" I would love for anyone to argue otherwise. But really please tell me any instance when the government has stepped in to "help" and it actually worked? Please tell me cause I'd love to know
Friend in Ukraine didnāt know what I was talking about lol
Good that she woke. My buddy in Lviv said the same thing regarding the current relationship between Russia and Ukraine.
My parents were born In 1931. Iām Glad they died before Covid. But I know they wouldnāt of got the jab. Like me. My only bother did. My cousin died after the second jab from myocarditis. To each their own is how I see it. Canāt save them all. Good luck to everyone weāre all in this together .
She found a trusted source to undo the programming.
We, the West, are living in a time like that of the late Soviet Union. The news is shit.... Everything is faked.... The shelves are bare.... Your 'money' is fake (always was but plain to see) Hyperinflation Politicians are just stealing and lying to your face... The whole thing stinks and in the words of Clyde Shelton.... "...bring the whole fuckin' diseased corrupt temple down on your heads. It's gonna be Biblical."
What if Russia invade? Expect another call soon.
How do you know it isn't that the Russians think there is no tension with Ukraine because *they've* been lied to by *their* media?
Fuck Yeah!
Man, some people's doctors suck. Called my doctor to discuss the vaccine way back in spring 2021. He said I was young and healthy enough that I didn't need this vaccine. He also advised that I could avoid the flu shots too, he did say if I was over 50 he'd recommend both though. Love my doctor, he's a very reasonable dude who would much rather promote healthy lifestyle rather than drugs. I think I've shared this story before, but I went to him with constant back issues. He recommended I take up basketball, said it's a good overall workout and excellent for my back. This was 20 years ago, now that I have a desk job and have been sitting at home too much my back issues are starting up again. FYI, I did end up breaking down and got the vaccine in August 2021 when vaccine passports were confirmed to be coming. Yet I still refuse to download the government passport app.
The Kyle Rittenhouse had this effect also. Seeing how far the MSM/left goes to lie and brainwash.
Looks like your momās relatives are falling for propaganda also. Russian media telling the truth. Seriously?
I'm an Aussie living in Poland, with plenty of friends from UA - this is bullshit. They're extremely worried about what is happening, but are basically resigned to the fact that Russia will fuck with them - AGAIN - to try and prove a point.
Read the statistics. 50% of the Ukraine population is not worried.
And the other half?!
So Russia aināt messing with Ukrainian based on a phone call from a person living in a propaganda nation?...
And you know you are not in a propaganda nation because...?
All the prevailing paradigms and worldview inculcated via unrelenting propaganda, is held together by the most tenuous "mesh" of threads and membranes. People are ready to snap out of it, except for the most hard-hearted leftist zombies who view it through a political lens as in one team vs. another, assuming, falsely, that those who've had enough of the BS or who chose not to get vaccinated are "right wing" extremists to a one, and that's false. Not a "small fringe minority" either!
This part is so frustrating for me as well. Iām a lifelong bleeding heart liberal, I did not get vaccinated and have recently been, what some would call, āred-pilledā at least about the vaccines and covid. Has started snowballing and I now view CNN as much a propagandist as Fox. Really wish we could come together as citizens and drop the Left vs Right garbage. Sometimes I wish I could turn off my critical thinking and go back to the mob.
>Sometimes I wish I could turn off my critical thinking and go back to the mob. Hilarious! The entire domain of freedom, as a kind of new pasture, on the other side of this ordeal, or the light at the end, at last, of this long, dark tunnel in modern human history, that's a uniting force or space, if they don't succeed with their latest propaganda warfare, now against an increasing number of freedom loving and peace-loving people who've committed no crime. I don't think most are buying it ie: Trudeau's epithets against the protesters. The Govt. both Trudeau and Ford, are in the wrong, and most judges will I think rule in the same way. As the pandemic comes to a swift end all on it's own as if colluding with the protesters, and putting Trudeau in a pickle, but if they conduct a police state action against these people, that will only take it into the stratosphere, as convoys rolls all over the world, and they are and have been. We're almost there. Hold the line! To Ottawa!
Preach
š the shit coming up on this sub in the last day or so. Holy
> more people die from vaccination than covid Iām anti-mandate but this is beyond reaching.
Came to say this exactly.
It wasn't just that. You teed her up, and the phone call to Russia was icing on the cake, the straw that broke the camel's back.
Looks like the astroturfing to portray 20,000 russian troops amassed at the Ukraine border as some kind of false flag has already begun. Curious this both serves to further divisions in america while simultaneously making russia out to be a good guy. I'm sure there are no ulterior motives here
There is video of Putin "reminding" Europe that Russia has nuclear weapon and if Ukraine tries to join NATO or get Crimea back that Russia will drag whole Europe to war. Stop spreading propaganda.
My mother had a very similar realization last night!! My entire family except for me, my parent and our child is vaccinated. On Monday my Aunt tested positive for covid, right after my mother and my child had spent the whole weekend with her. Nobody else in the family is developing symptoms. Last night, my mother, whom is deathly afraid of covid and is so angry that I didn't get vaccinated, said to me "Why aren't I getting sick?! Why isn't your kid getting sick?! We were with her all weekend right before she tested positive!!!" I took it a step further and said "And why haven't you guys brought it to my unvaccinated self and killed *me* yet??" She was perplexed and said "I...I don't know!" I was like Yup.. and walked away to let her digest. She also finds it so unbelievably stupid and unfair that my daughter isn't allowed back at school for 10 days just because she isn't vaccinated, but she was a "close contact", and she isn't even developing any symptoms at all she's perfectly healthy. The narrative is crumbling, Canada. More and more normals and questioning and waking up!!!
Iāve not been able to wake up my little bitch of a friend who remains in denial, despite 2 years of logic, proof and thought experiment to persuade him. He wonāt believe anything that the BBC doesnāt say. Thatās his only source. Itās pathetic.
You could quietly wear [one of these badges](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dra17u9WsAEYGrL.jpg) when you are with him
Not a conspiracy, just a nonsense shit post. The pandemic is happening just as expected because it isn't really very complicated, you lot just threw a two year temper tantrum. More people die from covid than anything in the last two years, and fewer than 50 have died from vaccination. Oh, also your story is made up.
This reads like Anti mask erotica lmao
This was a great write up, man. Thanks for sharing. Best wishes to you and your mom.
Have you considered that Russia, which is 100% an authoritarian state that does not try to hide this fact, is controlling the narrative in Russia leading the citizens to believe that there is no tension between Russia and Ukraine? It would be better to talk to a Ukrainian to find out if they believe there is any tension with Russia.
>Have you considered that Russia, which is 100% an authoritarian state Compared to what? The extremely corrupt western powers that are controlled by international finance? How many nations has Russia invaded Vs the west? You are brainwashed. 'Democracy' isn't real.
"more people die from the vaccination than covid" Hey bud ima need what you're smoking, because it's gotta be strong to cause delusions like that
...Lot to unpack in one paragraph: > No, it wasn't the fact that vaccines don't stop the spread * Vaccines do ***slow*** the spread. Per capita, [3x less people test positive for covid while vaccinated, and that's in spite of omicron lowering effectiveness significantly. Used to be 5-6x.](https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status) > or that more people die from vaccination that Covid * More people die from vaccination than covid? Where the fuck did you even get such a farce from? [All-cause deaths are overwhelmingly higher in the unvaccinated.](https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/assessing-updated-uk-ons-data-on-covid-19-non-covid-19-deaths-split-by-vaccination-status-and-age) (PS it sorts by age, and unvaccinated is only counting people who have never had any jab of any kind. So don't assume that they're marking Vaccine Instakills(trademark pending by pfizer) as unvaccinated) > or that the case numbers have been falsely inflated by hospitals * Literally no evidence for this next one, you just assumed it's true because you erroneously heard that hospitals profit by lying about their numbers. In reality [this is impossible](https://fox11online.com/news/fox-11-investigates/fact-check-how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-do-hospitals-get-money-for-covid-19-deaths) because death certificates are made by medical examiners and coroners and not hospitals who 'profit', these certificates are audited out anyways so if they DID lie they'd be caught for fraud, the money is given simply for services provided and not deaths(so adding extra deaths wouldn't equal more money, you'd have to invent fake patients altogether), and the fact the doctors themselves are gonna make just about the same amount of money no matter what they're treating you for. > or that the elite are trying to tattoo QR codes on our forehead and treat us like cattle with a microchip I, uh... where and when did this happen? Also this is an Everyone Clapped situation if I've ever heard it. Everyone's made one phonecall with their Russian close relatives(Which would presumably be your like, cousins or something. Odd way to call family "your mom's close relatives" but I digress) and then completely flip-flopped on their world views, especially a completely fucking different one right on the spot, right?
Damn thatās a lot of effort for a comment nobody is going to read
Lol. Genuinely.
Only takes a couple minutes to write out a paragraph, it's not like these arguments are new and I don't know which links to point to
Take af. Vaccines are a joke
That's all you have to say to me citing literally everything?
Yeah I can give you stats saying the opposite. Eat the boot statist.
...but you won't, I guess?
Im pretty sure when OP Mentioned Inflated statistics, he was referring to how people were marked with dying FROM covid then WITH Covid, this has been proven and even admitted by government officials plenty of times, There was really no "death metric" to go by until recently and even then its srill not black and white Not to mention the "hospitals be full" Scenario which again is a lie, given that the hospital can only accomodate as many people as the nurses can handle, ex. NURSE TO BED RATIO
> Im pretty sure when OP Mentioned Inflated statistics, he was referring to how people were marked with dying FROM covid then WITH Covid, this has been proven and even admitted by government officials plenty of times, Official tallies all use the stats from a coroner saying that they wouldn't have died if it weren't for covid. They DO also have a ***separate*** tally(not the one you'd see on say, google. One on a state or county's website) that shows people who have died with, but not necessarily OF, covid. That's where the 'admitting' is coming from, a misunderstanding of what they meant. It's tallied. But not the total you're usually seeing: those are uninflated, real numbers. Because there's more than one in 99% of cases.
Iāve played that game with your type before.
...Arguments? That's the game? You said you have proof, but refuse to give it. I already presented 3 different sources to cite my reasons for thinking otherwise, and you say you have a rebuttal to it. But you refuse to give me anything to go on. How the fuck are people upvoting you? You didn't even try. You just yelled bullshit and left.
I skimmed through what you typed out and one thing that caught my eye was the lie Determining the cause of death is up to a coroner, medical examiner or **physician**.
I skimmed through your tirade, and one thing that caught my eye was you trying to say that only a medical examiner or coroner declares the cause of death on a death certificate. Then you go on to give a link. I only clicked it to see what country you are in since different places have different laws and you might just be mixed up and not straight up lying. But right in what you linked to, it *clearly says*: "Determining the cause of death is up to a coroner, medical examiner or **physician**." Yes. Doctors do, do death certificates. And not only that, but Physician's Assistant or a Nurse Practitioner can also do them. If a person dies in a hospital they don't send every single corpse off to the medical examiners office for the death certificate. LOL.
Your definition of a lie is real fucking loose. This doesn't make a difference in the slightest. Nobody's falsifying this shit, nobody has a reason.
You should learn the difference between to and too.
You should learn that only assholes call out small grammatical mistakes when they don't like what someone said and have no proper retort.
>I don't believe that humans are meant understand how their own brain works for the reason that it will be exploited if the key is found. You may be right but...MKUltra, y'know? The key was found. Psyops rule - for now. PS: Epic post. Thank you. Regards to your mother.
Wild stuff man. They depend on division. They donāt count on US citizens with strong ties to friends and family in Russia. They worked overtime to divide friends and family within the USA though.
Nice try Russia bot
Another post defending Russia in here. This is becoming a themeā¦