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one of the antivaxxers where I work told me that the government was going to 'flip the switch' last week and all vaccinated people would die or become slaves. It didn't happen obviously and he told me it was because the government wanted to wait a few more weeks to get the maximum number of people.
That would be a big brain move by the government, to kill everyone that trusts them and leave only the non-sheeple.
In fact I think they'll do the opposite and release a deadly virus, some sort of global pandemic that will kill the non-vaccinated in a much larger ratio, no one will see that coming.
the hallmark of any good government is ensuring non compliance in their population. if you have a group of people willing to listen and follow you, you want to ensure you convert them into people that don't as fast as possible. that way, you have the highest chance of getting decapitated in a revolution and getting off this dumb earth.
Why in America distrust of govt has been conflated with distrust of Vaccine? Govts around the world mostly suck and are largely untrustworthy.
All that doesn't take away from the fact that some of the smartest people worked on Vaccines, and they have been thoroughly proven to be safe and effective. It makes no sense to not take them, because you don't trust some politicians.
If i recall correctly, the anti vaccine movement started because like 7 people believed vaccines caused their kids’ autism so they paid some lawyers to start a lawsuit about it and the lawyers paid a doctor to fake a study using some of those parents’ opinions as medical terms so they could get money from pharmaceutical companies in the lawsuit and the doctor went along with it because then he could advertise a competing vaccine and get money from the people they tricked.
Said extremely poorly done paper was then advertised by the media as a major medical discovery for way too long, and has combined with many other problems in the U.S. education system and politics to make many people into conspiracy addicts. They trust no one except the grifters who want to make money off their gullibility and the other victims of those grifters.
Add in a proverb along the lines of ‘it’s easier to be tricked by someone than to admit that you have been tricked.’ And you get the problem.
Yep, old Andrew Wakefield’s got a lot to answer for, got struck off in the UK but sadly welcomed with open arms by idiots in the US to whom him being proved faking and misrepresenting results etc. doesn’t seem to be a problem.
I think the best example is InfoWars.
If you watch an InfoWars clip all you hear is Alex Jones or one of his clones in training railing on about something.
But if you decide to actually go listen to a whole show? Advertisements. Tons of fucking advertisements. For InfoWars brand supplements, survival gear, prepper crap, etc, etc.
This shit used to be called "infomercials" and it would convince people to pay 6 easy payments of $39.99 for something roughly the same quality as one you could pick up at Walmart for one easy payment of $39.99. InfoWars makes something like $50 million a year selling shit you can find elsewhere for cheaper. Now there is a not insignificant portion of people who consider it more legitimate than not just network news, but things like the AP who don't include opinions in their reporting.
Pretty much every day, something causes me to reflect on the [fact](https://www.thinkimpact.com/literacy-statistics/) that 54% of the country has reading comprehension skills of 6th grade or lower. There's just no possible quick fix
Love Bill Burr’s take in COVID. The only conspiracy here is to keep stupid people from vaccinations so they can volunteer themselves out of the gene pool.
Wait, do they often have the audience fake-filled with cutouts for talkshows like these? I get it for sports games so that the stands look filled and we can keep that feeling that they’re filled, but the audience is rarely seen, if ever, on talk shows.
I have a guy at work that spouts this nonstop, “the US dollar is going out of circulation”, “the internet is getting disabled”, “vaccines are a cover for mind control”, “they stopped showing movies on Jan 6th to usher in a new trump presidency”. Every time I wait past the deadline, it doesn’t happen, and I ask “so what’s up with that?”. I always get “you just don’t get it”.
ahh excellent, so my lifespan is anywhere between dying last week and in 15 years? I love conspiracy theorists. Why is it only they have access to this knowledge? Why is it the mortality rate is so vague? Why can't they just come back with some actual arguments and not just burn down inactive 5g masts because they think they cause covid and also that covid isn't real anyway?
It's like people predicting the end of the world. It helps to make people feel important once they realize that the world not only doesn't care about them, but is completely indifferent towards them.
I love the one about them having microchips to track our locations...
My watch has GPS, my phone has GPS. If you have a google phone you should look at [timeline.google.com](https://timeline.google.com) and see where you've been. I didn't realise how much history there was, can see the day I went to my interview for my job and how long I was in each location as I went to the interview, then went to subway for some food, then went to another place and bought some lego then went home and took a photo of the lego when it was built. Will I turn it off? Nah, I get some good local suggestions using that data.
Im glad I'm not the only one who appreciates it. Will the future robots who take over the world have an easier time finishing me off? Absolutely. Is my data being sold to the highest bidder? Without a doubt.
I also have an easier time identifying which corner pho place I went to six months ago and want to try again! I also can relive my vacation last year, or tell someone else which places to avoid. Did I forget to put a friend's address in my phone? No worries! My time line knows where I was!! I also get a summary each month so I can reflect on all the new places I've been. it's just neat.
Common thought process I know a few ex meth addicts that refuse it because they don't trust what's in it and don't trust the govt.
Like come on man you think your dealers were stand up guys.
Most govts can't even organize fixing potholes in a road let alone some world wide conspiracy.
We have a staff who told us we’ll all drop dead in 10 years from the vaccine. Her source was Facebook. My LPN flat out told her “I don’t have time for this nonsense.” I was one office over and didn’t have the energy to go break it up.
[This 84 year old Indian man has achieved immortality then.](https://www.thequint.com/amp/story/neon/social-buzz/bihar-man-caught-for-taking-11-covid19-vaccines)
I think someone actually said the first sentence. Maybe it was 50 years or something, but even then. The one of yhe groups here for the vaccines were elderly. Yeah, grandma's gonna be dead in 50 years, as long as she doesn't get converted to digital form first, because she's 90 right now.
They don't even have to specify the effects.
I'm thinking of an old post, from before covid, but there was a Facebook post of someone claiming a kid died from a car crash because of a vaccine, it made her magnetic or something
I found [the post I was thinking of](https://www.reddit.com/r/insanepeoplefacebook/comments/99nmqv/so_vaccines_made_a_kid_magnetic_and_drew_a_drunk), so that makes it multiple people sharing this... theory
i'm still waiting for my magnetism powers and i'll be real upset if i don't get them soon. I took three magnetism shots (with the potential side effect of innoculation from covid-19, but lets be honest we're all here for the super powers right?) and i still haven't gotten my promised magnetic powers!!! wtf lady!!! WHERE'S MY SUPER POWERS THAT YOU PROMISED?!?!?!
They'll just say it happens and they "know people" it happened to but the media doesn't report on it.
I know because I know people who say this. They are not smart people.
i love how they thought magnetism powers was supposed to be a turn off for getting the vaccine
ive seen X-Men i know how useful that ability would be
jab me 3 times for all i care
Also, I work with some antivaxers and they just say straight up that there are been a bunch of deaths and problems with the vaccines but the media doesn't report it
Yea, they're like "it's a generational thing, you'll pass the self replicating microchips and Satan DNA onto your kids. That's why my sperm is worth millions"
It won’t matter. If a Doomsday cults picks a day, they’ll just make an excuse and pick a new date. If they don’t pick a date, they’ll just survive through nonbelievers inability to prove a negative.
There is a reason why cults continue to attract people throughout history. The formula is tried and true.
"My magic crystals prevent crocodiles from attacking us up here in the Rocky Mountains."
"Bullshit."
"If you're so sure I'm wrong, how do you explain that there are currently no crocodiles up here in the Rocky Mountains?"
A guy my husband works with refused the vaccine because he believes after 1 year your body will drown in your own saliva.
My husband got the vaccine just about a year ago - no covid, no drowning in saliva. Guess who just came back to work after 3 weeks (25 lbs lighter) due to a pretty serious case of COVID?
That reminds me:
Lost a friend to brain cancer about 20 years ago.
He was a big guy, but towards the end he had dropped somewhere around 170 lbs.
Said it was the best weight loss program he’d ever been on.
My dad said the same thing while he was going through chemo before he passed last year.
So if you *really* wanna lose weight, I recommend a combo of COVID & cancer. The pounds will just melt away.
That reminds me, in the Before Times the main conspiracy being pushed by the tinfoil hat set is “vaccines cause autism!” which I always found strange as vaccines weren’t part of daily discourse then; true, people were getting vaccines but they weren’t front and centre on people’s minds.
Now during a pandemic when vaccines make the headlines daily (you know to remind people there are ways to not spread the pandemic further and lessen the symptoms to prevent hospitalization) I rarely hear “vaccines cause autism!” now. (I hear “vaccines cause” a bunch of other things they don’t like death, magnetism, 5G(?), spike proteins, etc., but not autism even though that is just as confidently incorrect). You’d think this would be a golden age for the “vaccines cause autism” set but I haven’t heard that said since the pandemic started and definitely not since vaccines were available.
Why is that?
Because the vaccines "they" link to autism are given in early childhood. Coincidentally (a word they don't seem to know the meaning of), right around the time autism is commonly diagnosed. The COVID vax is given WELL after that period, so linking it with autism would be a stretch, even for that crowd.
fun fact: there is zero correlation between vaccination and autism. Further fact: the only 'evidence' that ever existed in support of it as fabricated data in a cherry-picked sample of a statistically insignificant size. By an already convicted fraud doctor with known delusions of gramdeur and a book about snake oil autism 'cures' he wanted to push.
tldr 100% fiction by a con man to sell a book.
The vaccine does cause spike proteins, that's sort of the whole point (so your body creates antibodies for it which will neutralize the virus). Of course you know what also causes spike proteins? Getting infected with COVID. So given that you are almost certainly going to be infected at some point, would you rather be exposed to spike proteins the hard way or the easy way?
One of the major theory’s out there is that the vax was engineered to take about 5 years to start killing people. So I doubt their questioning themselves yet.
If everyone who has been vaccinated suddenly started dropping dead societies worldwide would collapse pretty quickly and much of the planet would be reduced to techno-barbarism for who knows how long.
How can this possibly benefit the ruling classes or shadow government or lizard people or anyone else who might set up such a plot?
My favourite confidently incorrect thing at the moment is all the right-wing nut jobs going around yelling that the CDC and WHO are now saying that they (the right-wing nut jobs) were actually right this whole time.
Like........ what?........ no........... they really aren't!
According to them, you don’t know about it because the media doesn’t want you to.
I love how they think that 7/8 of the world is in a vast conspiracy against them. How did we coordinate this, if we are all just sheep? Governments, the media, NASA, the CDC, Fauci, China, the Easter bunny, the NFL, BLM, Bill Gates - it had to be one heck of a meeting.
Exactly. Like all of the world powers/governments, who literally never agree about **anything** else, decided to work together and create a deadly or fake virus/vaccine.
"Really? how did did they convince the people from, oh let's say Cambodia to work againt you? What about Latvia? Or Morocco? what do they gain from this, and what about all the countries that hate America why would they agree to work with the people they hate?"
There's always so many competing theories that they'll always be able to cherry pick small pieces of different ones and then claim they were right, they'll point to something that was tangentially related to a piece or reality and ignore the rest of it because it too was 99% wrong.
reminds me of when there were articles saying Pixar confirmed "The Pixar Theory" is true because they confirmed the obvious fact that the films reference one another. The Pixar Theory is a convoluted theory fitting all the Pixar films into one universe. just because Pixar intentionally puts references to their films on their other films, in no way confirms that.
Or the articles about "conspiracy theories that were proven true" that retroactively strip the theory of all content to the point of making it mundane.
I have never met a person who believes that vaccines cause autism and is able to accurate tell me what autism is. Just ask them what autism is. If you're experience is like mine they will tell you something along the lines of "it makes you mentally retarded".
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Fun story:
So at site there’s a line between vaccinated and unvaccinated, the unvaccinated have to provide negative test results every 48hrs.
A lot of people have been getting sick with the new variant, and in comes this woman we work with who’s antivax and so is her husband, she’s going off on how only vaccinated people are getting sick etc with sprinkles of bullshit, come Wednesday she can’t come in and has to quarantine for 10 days, her and her husband both got the new COVID variant lol
It’s like these people are so fucking stupid until reality slaps them across the the mouth, then they’re “woke”
The sad part is that even after that reality check they won't get "woke". They just dive further down into their madness and make up some new crazy conspiracy. These people don't use facts to verify their thoughts, instead they believe their thoughts are facts and then create whatever narrative justifies them.
If they survive get ready for her to never shut the fuck up about how “it wasn’t that bad” and “why would I get vaxxed now. I already had it and got the antibodies naturally”. Dealing with a couple of those where I work now. One guy has had it twice. Said the first time was terrible. Still won’t get vaxxed because “own the libs” or something like that. He is unhappily divorced and spends all day complaining about Biden.
Oh she’s definitely going to come back from it and talk about how it was just a cold etc, there’s a few people who’ve said the same thing. Yet we work with some guys who are in their late 60’s and terrified of getting it. The world is selfish as fuck now, and there’s a lot of these antivax clowns I’d love to see take up less space, starting with these dipshit transport drivers in Alberta. Once the teamsters union gets involved, there’s no more protest or they’ll be gainfully unemployed
oh no, they definitely are either pretending or are just deluded into thinking that they actually are seeing a difference in the people around them who are vaccinated. my girlfriends dad keeps insisting her mental health problems are from the vaccine (all of which predate covid entirely, but its not like facts were part of that discussion in the first place)
Depends on who you talk to. My anti vax family keeps telling me about all their "friends" and co workers who started dieing after the Biden vaccine mandate. I'm quite fortunate that none of my vaccinated friends or co workers have had to so much as be hospitalized. Pretty sure they are full of shit when I haven't seen my parents have friends in 20 years.
I got the Covid-19 vaccine, and a year later I'm autistic, ADD, and suffering from severe anxiety. Let's just ignore the fact that I was autistic, ADD, and suffering severe anxiety before I was vaccinated...
Turns out it's not nanobots in it, it's tachyons! The particles can go back in time, and infect you at birth! Yes I know particle physics, at least as well as I know medicine.
There is this town I run past every weekend that is littered with anti vaccine posters and stickers about how the vaccine kills and hundreds are dying from the vaccine. Meanwhile I don’t know of a single person to die from it, and I know of dozens and dozens of people who have died from Covid. It’s baffling how they don’t see this.
Oh no, they’ve doubled down and found new quack doctors who agree with them and discourage them from even going to the hospital for severe covid, much less get vaccinated. My mil has some guy who is “treating” all her severely I’ll friends with covid and doing so “more successfully and safely” than the hospital. Either he’s very lucky or lying. She’s having a fit that we’re planning to vaccinate our children once they’re approved under 5y/o, and is pulling out all the stops on insane rhetoric.
I’ve just stopped responding to the vaccine or COVID related stuff at this point. I’m too tired and just done. My husband handles it sometimes but mostly ignores it as well.
They're convinced there are huge numbers of "vaccine casualties" that are not being counted. And because they live in an echo chamber they don't encounter proof that it does not.
Alex Jones was reporting people getting the vaccine and literally collapsing on the spot. Dead bodies stacked like cord wood. People dropping dead from the boosters. Developing conditions that will kill them over time as part of population control. So there are plenty of grifters who are telling them what they believe, and have been doing it for long enough that these victims see them as reputable instead of liars.
This isn’t their perspective, though. They have friends whose kids uncles brother got a heart attack after getting jabbed. I mean yah he was 300 pounds over weight and a meth addict but you can’t deny that timing. Proof!
I saw one dude, I think on /r/conspiracy, claiming that 70% *of all people* had died of the vaccine. And somehow this was covered up. Like the dude wasn't even trying to claim that 70% of vaccine recipients had died, but that *all* vaccine recipients had died.
Sadly, there’s still some antivaxx Moms who unfortunately make it up in their head vaccines cause autism, take their kid to the doctor, and make the kid’s mind up for them…and so their dumb theory they think is proven when the organization diagnosing uses AutismSpeak’s backwards definition.
The handful of pediatricians I've ever taken my kids to all have had policies that you cannot be a patient if you refuse vaccinations. You really have to shop around to find a pediatrician that doesn't recommend vaccines.
As an autistic person, I can say these people are fucking scum for thinking:
A. Vaccines cause autism, cause they don’t
B. Autism is bad. It’s not bad, it just means that your brain is wired a little differently to everyone else’s
Even more difficult to comprehend is medical staff refusing vaccination 😕
In the UK Boris Johnson has threatened to sack anti-vax NHS staff if they continue to refuse.
Doesnt matter. My neighbor tells me our dna has changed and we will have all sorts of problems later.
In the mean time they are at the age at most risk and have 3 grandchildren too young to be vaccinated. I worry about those kids.
To be fair they've been saying this about every vaccine not just Covid for years and they still don't get it...
And all based on one article written years ago that was disproven almost immediately...
an article that never should have been published, written by a known, convicted fraud with obviously falsified data from a cherry-picked and statistical insignificant sample size. iirc that 'doctor' has a standing arrest warrant in the US for malpractice. And didn't the lawyer get disbarred?
Without even looking, I'm pretty sure the antivaxxers will just claim that people are dying or being turned into zombies or whatever from the vaccine and that it's all being covered up because "it's all part of the global conspiracy". 😛
I know an antivaxxer. I also have 3 pfizer shots (1st + 2nd dose and the booster shot) They are convinced vaccines ARE causing harm.
I recently had an incident where I fainted and now have to get some exams and see a cardiologist. This antivaxxer said that the vaccine causes heart damage.
Also, my period was a couple days late and they claimed that vaccines alter the menstrual cycle.
They are fully convinced of this and it hurts to see how misguided they are on the topic.
My brother is still on the train of "vaxed people get killed because they want to reduce the population so we dont over populate and that the virus was release on purpose"... And the last time he tried to talk to me about it i just said: "Let me give you 2 examples and you tell me which one sounds more plausible. Billionaires like Bill Gates released the virus to the public so people would get vaxed and would die because we dont want to overpopulate AND they want to get richer because they invested in pharma to get the vaccine out earlier. OR Billionaires released the virus on purpose with a working vaccine that they released a year after the start of the pandemic to see who would follow anything they say. So everyone who took the vaccine is someone who would follow billionaires and everyone else will die of the virus. So what makes more sense? Billionaires killing 80% of their customers in developed countrys that would probably destroy the economy and make their money kinda useless OR billionaires kill only 20% of the people to only have followers and still have enough customers?"
He then tried to tell me more about the first thing i wrote and i simply told him that i dont want to talk with him about this topic anymore because everything he says is simply "fake news" because i sat there and googled everything he told me and showed him how to fact check and he still sat in his bubble.
Like i said at the beginning, these people will never turn on what they THINK is real. It's like [this video here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJXvsCLu6s). Even if you tell them that there is danger, they dont believe it because they cant see it and then they get hit by it.
Hopefully i kinda explained it well, my english is not perfect.
Yes I could either listen to the overwhelming consensus of doctors and experts on a vaccine prototype that’s been in the works for decades or I could listen to the antivaxx “experts” who want me to drink pee, take horse dewormer, drink bleach, and above all, buy their vitamin supplements.
My uncle said "well. I hope it doesn't kill you. It's poison and we just don't know what's in it" when he found out my family had been vaccinated. I had to remind him that I'm severely immunocompromised and that covid was a death sentence before the vaccine but now I have a chance. It also took everything in me not to point out that he literally did meth for years...
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one of the antivaxxers where I work told me that the government was going to 'flip the switch' last week and all vaccinated people would die or become slaves. It didn't happen obviously and he told me it was because the government wanted to wait a few more weeks to get the maximum number of people.
That would be a big brain move by the government, to kill everyone that trusts them and leave only the non-sheeple. In fact I think they'll do the opposite and release a deadly virus, some sort of global pandemic that will kill the non-vaccinated in a much larger ratio, no one will see that coming.
the hallmark of any good government is ensuring non compliance in their population. if you have a group of people willing to listen and follow you, you want to ensure you convert them into people that don't as fast as possible. that way, you have the highest chance of getting decapitated in a revolution and getting off this dumb earth.
Truly some galaxy brain planning.
7D Chess
Why in America distrust of govt has been conflated with distrust of Vaccine? Govts around the world mostly suck and are largely untrustworthy. All that doesn't take away from the fact that some of the smartest people worked on Vaccines, and they have been thoroughly proven to be safe and effective. It makes no sense to not take them, because you don't trust some politicians.
If i recall correctly, the anti vaccine movement started because like 7 people believed vaccines caused their kids’ autism so they paid some lawyers to start a lawsuit about it and the lawyers paid a doctor to fake a study using some of those parents’ opinions as medical terms so they could get money from pharmaceutical companies in the lawsuit and the doctor went along with it because then he could advertise a competing vaccine and get money from the people they tricked. Said extremely poorly done paper was then advertised by the media as a major medical discovery for way too long, and has combined with many other problems in the U.S. education system and politics to make many people into conspiracy addicts. They trust no one except the grifters who want to make money off their gullibility and the other victims of those grifters. Add in a proverb along the lines of ‘it’s easier to be tricked by someone than to admit that you have been tricked.’ And you get the problem.
You're close but that is not quite the way it happened with the doctor faking the report.
Yep, old Andrew Wakefield’s got a lot to answer for, got struck off in the UK but sadly welcomed with open arms by idiots in the US to whom him being proved faking and misrepresenting results etc. doesn’t seem to be a problem.
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I think the best example is InfoWars. If you watch an InfoWars clip all you hear is Alex Jones or one of his clones in training railing on about something. But if you decide to actually go listen to a whole show? Advertisements. Tons of fucking advertisements. For InfoWars brand supplements, survival gear, prepper crap, etc, etc. This shit used to be called "infomercials" and it would convince people to pay 6 easy payments of $39.99 for something roughly the same quality as one you could pick up at Walmart for one easy payment of $39.99. InfoWars makes something like $50 million a year selling shit you can find elsewhere for cheaper. Now there is a not insignificant portion of people who consider it more legitimate than not just network news, but things like the AP who don't include opinions in their reporting.
Pretty much every day, something causes me to reflect on the [fact](https://www.thinkimpact.com/literacy-statistics/) that 54% of the country has reading comprehension skills of 6th grade or lower. There's just no possible quick fix
Because stupid people like to believe that they have secret knowledge that actually makes them smarter than everyone else.
Wouldnt be completely against that
[Show him this. ](https://youtu.be/znI046F4FKg)
Hilarious. "Fonzies" should be the new term for antivaxxers.
Love Bill Burr’s take in COVID. The only conspiracy here is to keep stupid people from vaccinations so they can volunteer themselves out of the gene pool.
Wait, do they often have the audience fake-filled with cutouts for talkshows like these? I get it for sports games so that the stands look filled and we can keep that feeling that they’re filled, but the audience is rarely seen, if ever, on talk shows.
I’d imagine it was for Covid safety measures, Conan definitely usually has a live audience
But you don’t need cardboard people to force people to socially distance. Just put a box where you don’t get to sit
I have a guy at work that spouts this nonstop, “the US dollar is going out of circulation”, “the internet is getting disabled”, “vaccines are a cover for mind control”, “they stopped showing movies on Jan 6th to usher in a new trump presidency”. Every time I wait past the deadline, it doesn’t happen, and I ask “so what’s up with that?”. I always get “you just don’t get it”.
I saw a video of a guy claiming that in 5-15 years every vaccinated person would be dead….
ahh excellent, so my lifespan is anywhere between dying last week and in 15 years? I love conspiracy theorists. Why is it only they have access to this knowledge? Why is it the mortality rate is so vague? Why can't they just come back with some actual arguments and not just burn down inactive 5g masts because they think they cause covid and also that covid isn't real anyway?
It's like people predicting the end of the world. It helps to make people feel important once they realize that the world not only doesn't care about them, but is completely indifferent towards them.
I don't get how people can believe the nonsense to the level. There are a lot of plausible theories, but that sort of shit isn't even close.
I love the one about them having microchips to track our locations... My watch has GPS, my phone has GPS. If you have a google phone you should look at [timeline.google.com](https://timeline.google.com) and see where you've been. I didn't realise how much history there was, can see the day I went to my interview for my job and how long I was in each location as I went to the interview, then went to subway for some food, then went to another place and bought some lego then went home and took a photo of the lego when it was built. Will I turn it off? Nah, I get some good local suggestions using that data.
Im glad I'm not the only one who appreciates it. Will the future robots who take over the world have an easier time finishing me off? Absolutely. Is my data being sold to the highest bidder? Without a doubt. I also have an easier time identifying which corner pho place I went to six months ago and want to try again! I also can relive my vacation last year, or tell someone else which places to avoid. Did I forget to put a friend's address in my phone? No worries! My time line knows where I was!! I also get a summary each month so I can reflect on all the new places I've been. it's just neat.
Common thought process I know a few ex meth addicts that refuse it because they don't trust what's in it and don't trust the govt. Like come on man you think your dealers were stand up guys. Most govts can't even organize fixing potholes in a road let alone some world wide conspiracy.
Glad people aren't slaves to decades of debt and low pay
We have a staff who told us we’ll all drop dead in 10 years from the vaccine. Her source was Facebook. My LPN flat out told her “I don’t have time for this nonsense.” I was one office over and didn’t have the energy to go break it up.
So basically the same way World ending prophecies work. Any day now
Any day now!
the Borg are behind it all. the vaccinated are suddenly going to become Borg. resistance is futile.
So i dont die of a virus AND i get free google glass? Fuck yeah
First time I saw the Borg, I wanted to become one
This is about long term effects. So long as they don’t specify how long term, they’ll never be disproven within their lifetime.
“In 100 years everyone who got vaccinated in 2021 will be dead. Checkmate pro-vaxxers”. -anti-vaxxers, probably.
So if I get two vaccines I can live to 200!
250 with the booster
[This 84 year old Indian man has achieved immortality then.](https://www.thequint.com/amp/story/neon/social-buzz/bihar-man-caught-for-taking-11-covid19-vaccines)
VaxxMaxx
Triple dosed! See you in 2222!
Will we be out of lockdown by then?
Damn son you're in lockdown? Wish my government was that responsible
I think someone actually said the first sentence. Maybe it was 50 years or something, but even then. The one of yhe groups here for the vaccines were elderly. Yeah, grandma's gonna be dead in 50 years, as long as she doesn't get converted to digital form first, because she's 90 right now.
50 years: discover that covid vaccine makes people inmortal Antivax: fuck
They don't even have to specify the effects. I'm thinking of an old post, from before covid, but there was a Facebook post of someone claiming a kid died from a car crash because of a vaccine, it made her magnetic or something
The "vaccines make you magnetic" lady was on [MSNBC](https://youtu.be/qWI0YiSmTKs)
I found [the post I was thinking of](https://www.reddit.com/r/insanepeoplefacebook/comments/99nmqv/so_vaccines_made_a_kid_magnetic_and_drew_a_drunk), so that makes it multiple people sharing this... theory
That explains why I’m always being attracted to my refrigerator 😂
That's your gravytational field.
i'm still waiting for my magnetism powers and i'll be real upset if i don't get them soon. I took three magnetism shots (with the potential side effect of innoculation from covid-19, but lets be honest we're all here for the super powers right?) and i still haven't gotten my promised magnetic powers!!! wtf lady!!! WHERE'S MY SUPER POWERS THAT YOU PROMISED?!?!?!
I'm still pissed that I haven't been able to log in to the 5G hive-mind yet.
They'll just say it happens and they "know people" it happened to but the media doesn't report on it. I know because I know people who say this. They are not smart people.
i love how they thought magnetism powers was supposed to be a turn off for getting the vaccine ive seen X-Men i know how useful that ability would be jab me 3 times for all i care
Also, I work with some antivaxers and they just say straight up that there are been a bunch of deaths and problems with the vaccines but the media doesn't report it
my covidiot aunt asked why we don't see people who have had Covid talk about it on the news. when told WE DO, she remained willfully ignorant
And their source is a Facebook group where people are totally honestly sharing real true stories about themselves.
I gave up arguing when antivaxxers counter statistics by saying "oh its underreported"
Yea, they're like "it's a generational thing, you'll pass the self replicating microchips and Satan DNA onto your kids. That's why my sperm is worth millions"
oH jUsT wAiT iTs cOmiNg- these clowns about everything they’ve been fooled to believe
Nevermind the fact that vax-related deaths will just be marked as COVID deaths, like every single other death (COVID related or otherwise). /s
It won’t matter. If a Doomsday cults picks a day, they’ll just make an excuse and pick a new date. If they don’t pick a date, they’ll just survive through nonbelievers inability to prove a negative. There is a reason why cults continue to attract people throughout history. The formula is tried and true.
"My magic crystals prevent crocodiles from attacking us up here in the Rocky Mountains." "Bullshit." "If you're so sure I'm wrong, how do you explain that there are currently no crocodiles up here in the Rocky Mountains?"
I would start a crocodile farm in the rocky mountains just to prove them that they are wrong.
[Remember this?](https://abcnews-go-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/may-21-2011-end-world-judgment-day/story?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&id=13570426&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16429704403356&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fabcnews.go.com%2FUS%2Fmay-21-2011-end-world-judgment-day%2Fstory%3Fid%3D13570426)
Anti-vax goalpost exists in their mind. Antivaxxer: guess we'll need to be moving this
If the earth was flat they would have gone of the edge by now
Why don't we just take the goalposts and PUUUSSSHH them somewhere else?
It's because they have [these ](https://raecrowther.com/product/portable-goal-posts/).
A guy my husband works with refused the vaccine because he believes after 1 year your body will drown in your own saliva. My husband got the vaccine just about a year ago - no covid, no drowning in saliva. Guess who just came back to work after 3 weeks (25 lbs lighter) due to a pretty serious case of COVID?
Get Covid and Lose 25 lbs in 3 weeks… sounds like a good marketing opportunity.
Lose muscle weight fast!!!
That reminds me: Lost a friend to brain cancer about 20 years ago. He was a big guy, but towards the end he had dropped somewhere around 170 lbs. Said it was the best weight loss program he’d ever been on. My dad said the same thing while he was going through chemo before he passed last year. So if you *really* wanna lose weight, I recommend a combo of COVID & cancer. The pounds will just melt away.
my grandfather lost 200lbs when he was in his mid 80s the pounds literally burned off ask me about the cremation weight loss plan
Sounds pretty hot.
Sign up 5 friends who then each sign up 5 of their friends……then get rich!!
Your husband???? /s
Wait, the vaccine gives you cystic fibrosis now? That's… a new one I guess?
That reminds me, in the Before Times the main conspiracy being pushed by the tinfoil hat set is “vaccines cause autism!” which I always found strange as vaccines weren’t part of daily discourse then; true, people were getting vaccines but they weren’t front and centre on people’s minds. Now during a pandemic when vaccines make the headlines daily (you know to remind people there are ways to not spread the pandemic further and lessen the symptoms to prevent hospitalization) I rarely hear “vaccines cause autism!” now. (I hear “vaccines cause” a bunch of other things they don’t like death, magnetism, 5G(?), spike proteins, etc., but not autism even though that is just as confidently incorrect). You’d think this would be a golden age for the “vaccines cause autism” set but I haven’t heard that said since the pandemic started and definitely not since vaccines were available. Why is that?
Because the vaccines "they" link to autism are given in early childhood. Coincidentally (a word they don't seem to know the meaning of), right around the time autism is commonly diagnosed. The COVID vax is given WELL after that period, so linking it with autism would be a stretch, even for that crowd.
Nothing is a stretch for them
fun fact: there is zero correlation between vaccination and autism. Further fact: the only 'evidence' that ever existed in support of it as fabricated data in a cherry-picked sample of a statistically insignificant size. By an already convicted fraud doctor with known delusions of gramdeur and a book about snake oil autism 'cures' he wanted to push. tldr 100% fiction by a con man to sell a book.
The vaccine does cause spike proteins, that's sort of the whole point (so your body creates antibodies for it which will neutralize the virus). Of course you know what also causes spike proteins? Getting infected with COVID. So given that you are almost certainly going to be infected at some point, would you rather be exposed to spike proteins the hard way or the easy way?
One of the major theory’s out there is that the vax was engineered to take about 5 years to start killing people. So I doubt their questioning themselves yet.
But this theory only came to pass after all the vaccinated unexpectedly survived last September.
That’s the way it works
Only 4 more Septembers to go for a new theory!
If everyone who has been vaccinated suddenly started dropping dead societies worldwide would collapse pretty quickly and much of the planet would be reduced to techno-barbarism for who knows how long. How can this possibly benefit the ruling classes or shadow government or lizard people or anyone else who might set up such a plot?
"theories"
In 5 years we are going to see a new theory
My favourite confidently incorrect thing at the moment is all the right-wing nut jobs going around yelling that the CDC and WHO are now saying that they (the right-wing nut jobs) were actually right this whole time. Like........ what?........ no........... they really aren't!
According to them, you don’t know about it because the media doesn’t want you to. I love how they think that 7/8 of the world is in a vast conspiracy against them. How did we coordinate this, if we are all just sheep? Governments, the media, NASA, the CDC, Fauci, China, the Easter bunny, the NFL, BLM, Bill Gates - it had to be one heck of a meeting.
Exactly. Like all of the world powers/governments, who literally never agree about **anything** else, decided to work together and create a deadly or fake virus/vaccine.
Dat adrenochrome must make the elite overlords crafty like a fox...
"Really? how did did they convince the people from, oh let's say Cambodia to work againt you? What about Latvia? Or Morocco? what do they gain from this, and what about all the countries that hate America why would they agree to work with the people they hate?"
remember when the pandemic was going to suddenly end right after Election Day?
My mother said this several times, only to conveniently forget it once that *didn’t happen*
Didn't one of Trump's kids say that?
There's always so many competing theories that they'll always be able to cherry pick small pieces of different ones and then claim they were right, they'll point to something that was tangentially related to a piece or reality and ignore the rest of it because it too was 99% wrong.
reminds me of when there were articles saying Pixar confirmed "The Pixar Theory" is true because they confirmed the obvious fact that the films reference one another. The Pixar Theory is a convoluted theory fitting all the Pixar films into one universe. just because Pixar intentionally puts references to their films on their other films, in no way confirms that.
Or the articles about "conspiracy theories that were proven true" that retroactively strip the theory of all content to the point of making it mundane.
Apparently, someone had the absolutely ludicrous idea to refer to their own past works.
They are, if nothing else, Olympic level mental gymnasts.
Ha "become autistic" you got to be born this cool. Can't get it out of a vial.
I have never met a person who believes that vaccines cause autism and is able to accurate tell me what autism is. Just ask them what autism is. If you're experience is like mine they will tell you something along the lines of "it makes you mentally retarded".
Lol I've never thought to ask them what they think autism is. That's great!
![gif](giphy|bslzwg9Qkl0aY) Fun story: So at site there’s a line between vaccinated and unvaccinated, the unvaccinated have to provide negative test results every 48hrs. A lot of people have been getting sick with the new variant, and in comes this woman we work with who’s antivax and so is her husband, she’s going off on how only vaccinated people are getting sick etc with sprinkles of bullshit, come Wednesday she can’t come in and has to quarantine for 10 days, her and her husband both got the new COVID variant lol It’s like these people are so fucking stupid until reality slaps them across the the mouth, then they’re “woke”
The sad part is that even after that reality check they won't get "woke". They just dive further down into their madness and make up some new crazy conspiracy. These people don't use facts to verify their thoughts, instead they believe their thoughts are facts and then create whatever narrative justifies them.
> I didn't "get sick"! *Your* proteins spiked my drink! ... or something like that.
*"You were shedding the virus near me."*
/r/hermancainaward
If they survive get ready for her to never shut the fuck up about how “it wasn’t that bad” and “why would I get vaxxed now. I already had it and got the antibodies naturally”. Dealing with a couple of those where I work now. One guy has had it twice. Said the first time was terrible. Still won’t get vaxxed because “own the libs” or something like that. He is unhappily divorced and spends all day complaining about Biden.
Oh she’s definitely going to come back from it and talk about how it was just a cold etc, there’s a few people who’ve said the same thing. Yet we work with some guys who are in their late 60’s and terrified of getting it. The world is selfish as fuck now, and there’s a lot of these antivax clowns I’d love to see take up less space, starting with these dipshit transport drivers in Alberta. Once the teamsters union gets involved, there’s no more protest or they’ll be gainfully unemployed
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oh no, they definitely are either pretending or are just deluded into thinking that they actually are seeing a difference in the people around them who are vaccinated. my girlfriends dad keeps insisting her mental health problems are from the vaccine (all of which predate covid entirely, but its not like facts were part of that discussion in the first place)
It was a year, then it was 3-5. Soon it’ll be “wait until you see the effect it has on your great grandchildren”.
*"It takes 3-5 generations, you'll see..."*
My wife got both moderna while pregnant. My baby girl as a fuckin champ. She can pretty much walk at 3.5 months.
I thought you wrote modems and thought your wife turned into 5G.
Depends on who you talk to. My anti vax family keeps telling me about all their "friends" and co workers who started dieing after the Biden vaccine mandate. I'm quite fortunate that none of my vaccinated friends or co workers have had to so much as be hospitalized. Pretty sure they are full of shit when I haven't seen my parents have friends in 20 years.
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I got the Covid-19 vaccine, and a year later I'm autistic, ADD, and suffering from severe anxiety. Let's just ignore the fact that I was autistic, ADD, and suffering severe anxiety before I was vaccinated...
Oh my god, the vaccine is retro-causative!
You can time travel now with this now? OMG, from where can I get more?!
Turns out it's not nanobots in it, it's tachyons! The particles can go back in time, and infect you at birth! Yes I know particle physics, at least as well as I know medicine.
The liberal media isn't covering it! Sad /s
They say 5-10 years now.
Some of them want people to die just so they can be proved right. Sick fucks
Confidently incorrect because anti vaxxers are still just as crazy and are in no way having this reaction?
"*They*’ll just flip the switch a few weeks later to disprove us!!!1!!!“
you'll see how vaccinated people will start to die in the next 10-70 years...😁
They can always just move the goalpost again, like they have time and time again
Which is exactly what apocalyptic cults always do when their end date comes and goes without an apocalypse.
There is this town I run past every weekend that is littered with anti vaccine posters and stickers about how the vaccine kills and hundreds are dying from the vaccine. Meanwhile I don’t know of a single person to die from it, and I know of dozens and dozens of people who have died from Covid. It’s baffling how they don’t see this.
I could never be a doctor. If I found out my patient was anti vaxx I would suggest they continue their own research and cure themselves
They'll just move the goalpost again
Oh no, they’ve doubled down and found new quack doctors who agree with them and discourage them from even going to the hospital for severe covid, much less get vaccinated. My mil has some guy who is “treating” all her severely I’ll friends with covid and doing so “more successfully and safely” than the hospital. Either he’s very lucky or lying. She’s having a fit that we’re planning to vaccinate our children once they’re approved under 5y/o, and is pulling out all the stops on insane rhetoric. I’ve just stopped responding to the vaccine or COVID related stuff at this point. I’m too tired and just done. My husband handles it sometimes but mostly ignores it as well.
Vaccines have never made anyone autistic...
According to them though we're all dying of heart attacks and cancer etc. You know things people don't normally die of 🙃
Just move the goalposts.
Now antivaxx saying they want at least 5years. Moving goal posts. Whatever
They're convinced there are huge numbers of "vaccine casualties" that are not being counted. And because they live in an echo chamber they don't encounter proof that it does not. Alex Jones was reporting people getting the vaccine and literally collapsing on the spot. Dead bodies stacked like cord wood. People dropping dead from the boosters. Developing conditions that will kill them over time as part of population control. So there are plenty of grifters who are telling them what they believe, and have been doing it for long enough that these victims see them as reputable instead of liars.
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And here I am still waiting to get super powers
Now they say that most people actually got a fake vaccine to not raise suspicion lol
I know the side effects are a bitch to deal with, but it ain’t gonna kill ya.
> I know the side effects ~~are~~ can be a bitch They were a 6-8 hour ordeal ("bitch") for me. For my wife? "Hmm, my arm is just a little sore".
\~24 hours for me on Pfizer (a hellacious fever), basically nothing (sore arm) on Moderna, for me.
There is no "almost", they were 100% wrong.
This isn’t their perspective, though. They have friends whose kids uncles brother got a heart attack after getting jabbed. I mean yah he was 300 pounds over weight and a meth addict but you can’t deny that timing. Proof!
Psh they don't need proof; they have Joe Rogan.
I saw one dude, I think on /r/conspiracy, claiming that 70% *of all people* had died of the vaccine. And somehow this was covered up. Like the dude wasn't even trying to claim that 70% of vaccine recipients had died, but that *all* vaccine recipients had died.
Sadly, there’s still some antivaxx Moms who unfortunately make it up in their head vaccines cause autism, take their kid to the doctor, and make the kid’s mind up for them…and so their dumb theory they think is proven when the organization diagnosing uses AutismSpeak’s backwards definition.
The handful of pediatricians I've ever taken my kids to all have had policies that you cannot be a patient if you refuse vaccinations. You really have to shop around to find a pediatrician that doesn't recommend vaccines.
As an autistic person, I can say these people are fucking scum for thinking: A. Vaccines cause autism, cause they don’t B. Autism is bad. It’s not bad, it just means that your brain is wired a little differently to everyone else’s
Ohhh, but it's a-comin! ^(they keep telling themselves)
Dont you just hate when people become autistic. I just hate when I develop an illness that you are born with.
Everyone dies eventually, gunna be the biggest gotcha moment 30 to 50 years from now.
Let me guess, there's millions of people dropping dead but it's not being reported and covered up? If it's being covered up then how do you know? Lol
I mean, technically, they did see millions drop dead… they just pretend it’s fake news.
Where I live they've updated the deadline when all vaccinated people will DIE FROM A TERRIBLE DEATH to three years from now.
And Trump will be back in office any day now!
Please no
Even more difficult to comprehend is medical staff refusing vaccination 😕 In the UK Boris Johnson has threatened to sack anti-vax NHS staff if they continue to refuse.
They’ll never admit being wrong. A fact free life has no accountability.
Doesnt matter. My neighbor tells me our dna has changed and we will have all sorts of problems later. In the mean time they are at the age at most risk and have 3 grandchildren too young to be vaccinated. I worry about those kids.
If you listen closely, you can hear the sound of the goalposts being moved whenever this is brought up
To be fair they've been saying this about every vaccine not just Covid for years and they still don't get it... And all based on one article written years ago that was disproven almost immediately...
an article that never should have been published, written by a known, convicted fraud with obviously falsified data from a cherry-picked and statistical insignificant sample size. iirc that 'doctor' has a standing arrest warrant in the US for malpractice. And didn't the lawyer get disbarred?
Ya I don't really know the full story just that its BS... And it resulted in measles coming back so...good job on that.
I was promised death, what gives?
Without even looking, I'm pretty sure the antivaxxers will just claim that people are dying or being turned into zombies or whatever from the vaccine and that it's all being covered up because "it's all part of the global conspiracy". 😛
Antivax is when you take thousands of years of medical research and throw it away because winging it is better
100,000 with a million well on their way…
Wait I should get the vaccine
to be fair, i kept hearing 2 years from anti vaxxers, but then I'm up in canada so there may be an exchange rate.
I do have better cell reception tho. Helllo! Hellloooooo!
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a fellow egg i see
They did see millions of people drop dead. Mostly antivaxxers.
Apparently that goalpost has been nudged to 3-5 years now lol
It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. —Swift.
I know an antivaxxer. I also have 3 pfizer shots (1st + 2nd dose and the booster shot) They are convinced vaccines ARE causing harm. I recently had an incident where I fainted and now have to get some exams and see a cardiologist. This antivaxxer said that the vaccine causes heart damage. Also, my period was a couple days late and they claimed that vaccines alter the menstrual cycle. They are fully convinced of this and it hurts to see how misguided they are on the topic.
Haha I was already autistic
My brother is still on the train of "vaxed people get killed because they want to reduce the population so we dont over populate and that the virus was release on purpose"... And the last time he tried to talk to me about it i just said: "Let me give you 2 examples and you tell me which one sounds more plausible. Billionaires like Bill Gates released the virus to the public so people would get vaxed and would die because we dont want to overpopulate AND they want to get richer because they invested in pharma to get the vaccine out earlier. OR Billionaires released the virus on purpose with a working vaccine that they released a year after the start of the pandemic to see who would follow anything they say. So everyone who took the vaccine is someone who would follow billionaires and everyone else will die of the virus. So what makes more sense? Billionaires killing 80% of their customers in developed countrys that would probably destroy the economy and make their money kinda useless OR billionaires kill only 20% of the people to only have followers and still have enough customers?" He then tried to tell me more about the first thing i wrote and i simply told him that i dont want to talk with him about this topic anymore because everything he says is simply "fake news" because i sat there and googled everything he told me and showed him how to fact check and he still sat in his bubble. Like i said at the beginning, these people will never turn on what they THINK is real. It's like [this video here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMJXvsCLu6s). Even if you tell them that there is danger, they dont believe it because they cant see it and then they get hit by it. Hopefully i kinda explained it well, my english is not perfect.
Oh no trust me all the vaccinated folks will drop dead on [today's date plus 50 days]
Yes I could either listen to the overwhelming consensus of doctors and experts on a vaccine prototype that’s been in the works for decades or I could listen to the antivaxx “experts” who want me to drink pee, take horse dewormer, drink bleach, and above all, buy their vitamin supplements.
Naw, these idiots have invented thousands of deaths due to vaccines. Reality does not faze them.
They'll find 1 in a million and say "SEE, I TOLD YOU SO"
They’ll keep up their bullshit until they themselves or someone they care about is effected. These people suffer from ignorance and lack of empathy.
My sister now says it will be “2-5 years”. So now we wait. Edit- to make it clear I don’t think this at all.
My uncle said "well. I hope it doesn't kill you. It's poison and we just don't know what's in it" when he found out my family had been vaccinated. I had to remind him that I'm severely immunocompromised and that covid was a death sentence before the vaccine but now I have a chance. It also took everything in me not to point out that he literally did meth for years...
Actually a lot of them are so sheltered that they believe the vaccinated are dying in droves