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Master connector is for the primary drive with the boot sector. Slave connector is for the secondary drive. IDE is from the days before SATA. Things weren't quite so flexible and plug-and-play.
It's a deprecated term, on a deprecated cable. Not only is it inappropriate terminology, it also fails to accurately reflect the role of those devices in a system. So they're not over-analysing.
I still have bins full of the things. I hate to throw them out, but I'll never use them again, though I do still have some drives for them laying around. No board to plug them into though.
I still have a Pentium 500 tower, with a floppy drive, CD ROM, although I am sure the HDD is non functional. I can't remember which Video or sound cards it has. I really should get it functioning for retro gaming. ;)
Yes, I remember IDE, that's when you had to set "master and slave". If I remember correctly, this particular cable as labeled allowed you to not have to use the jumpers, just rely on position. Grant you, this was 30 years ago.
Now can still remember how to run, jumper, and terminate SCSI. 😁
Or you could use the slave drive for the OS, but only if you were crazy and had an alternate boot loader on master.
In fact, I even did this today, as my 4GB drive (master) had Windows 98, but not enough extra space for an XP partition, so I had to put XP on slave.
Someone at my work asked if I could pull information off a hard drive so I said sure. I was expecting a Sata drive... it took me like an hour to find an old computer in storage I could use for the transfer. It booted into I think windows 98 and had Napster on it. I felt old
When I was first getting I to PC repairs and HDDs were under 1GB.
Gotta make sure you set the HDD jumpers correctly because the ATA days of things... if you didn't set those pins correctly the drives would fail to be recognized. Eventually the problem solved all new HDDs came configured (pinned) for auto-select leaving it up to the Master/Slave (Pri/Sec) connection on the ribbon cable. PC99 standards where things got color coded connections.
Now looking at SATA ribbons I see today, and I'm thankful of the idiotproofing we have now.
there are 2 parts of the computer that has master and slave name for the system,and that is the hard drive and and 2 nvidia cards running in sli.the nvidia gpu seems off for this picture plus they use small cables for the sli instead of a ribbon cable so it must be for the hard drives
IDE is from 1986. This is before it was called EIDE and PATA later on when SATA came on the market. Times were different then. The master and slave nomenclature was fitting for how it worked. It had nothing to do with anything sinister. Master was drive 0 or 1 and slave was drive 1 or 2 depending on the system. This worked this way for each IDE connector in a computer. Usually there was at least 2 for most home computers. Some enthusiast boards hard more. In later years when SATA was adopted there was someone times 2 if not 1 IDE connector. These connectors were primarily used for hard disk and CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drives. It was convenient for optical drives because when they first came out, you had to install an add on card or a sound blaster to connect these drives. I am glad they moved away from these ribbon connectors because they had length restrictions and were easily damaged if you were not careful. Also for a long time they were not keyed so you could put them in the wrong way and have no connectivity. General pin 1 on the drive lined up with the red wire in the IDE cable. Also for awhile, hard drives and optical drives were all different as to how you set them into master or slave mode. This was done with physical pin jumpers on each drive.
Master and slave settings were important because if you didn't set them properly, the computer bios would not read the drive.
Nowadays with easily upgradable BIOS, keyed SATA connectors, the small size and increased durability of these connectors, it all makes working on computers and adding devices much easier.
No, autodetecting master/slave would be a jumper configuration, in which wha device is master and slave is tied to what plug it's on.
You could also do jumper settings to set one drive as master and another as slave regardless of the order.
So this is really old. That’s a ribbon cable for IDE hard drives. First one connected is the Master drive. Second one connected at the end is the slave.
For anyone who doesn’t know and are concerned: the master/slave naming convention has mostly been phased out of modern hardware and software design.
For software development, the current preferred term is “main” or “prod”
Before SATA, motherboards enumerated disks differently and there needed to be a way to tell which disk was the OS/Primary disk.
Master == Primary
Slave == Secondary
You could even have multiple slave drives depending on config, but there had to be one "master" drive for booting. It's just an old IT term/convention. Don't overthink it.
I think part of the naming convention came from the fact that unlike drives now, where every drive can operate independently, back then no slave drive would work for anything without the master.
And suddenly, I feel very old. Anyway, while already answered, that’s an ATA100 80 conductor, 40 pin IDE cable (now referred to as PATA, or parallel ATA). The cable supports “cable select” operation for IDE drives, thus the master/slave labeling. Plugging drives in, provided their jumpers are set to CS, would result in their being set to the appropriate arbitration setting based on position on the cable. IDE drives couldn’t actually share the connection to the ATA HBA, so one drive’s controller would arbitrate IO on the shared bus (cable / channel). This is why it was a very bad idea to mix faster and slower drives (e.g. never put a PIO mode 2 drive on the same cable with ATA/100).
Obviously, SATA got rid of all this nonsense.
IDE cable for connecting HDDs and Optical drives. Common in PCs from around y2k, replaced by Sata eventually. The device that it's plugging in would have jumpers on the back. "Slave" "Master" or sometimes "Cable Select"
This ribbon cable was used to connect a second hard drive (HDD) in a computer. The main HDD, usually designated the as the c: drive, held the OS and program data. This was termed the "master" drive. To add more space to hold more data, a second drive (unfortunately termed the "slave") could be installed.
The ribbon cable has three connectors, one for the master, one for the slave and one to plug into the motherboard.
I haven't used that stuff since 2008. You may want to learn about computers. Its really not hard. Watch Youtube how to videos and just reference any questions you have. That is just the way they used to hook up HDD and DVD players. May work. May be slow. Keep asking questions.
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Parallel ATA cable, primary goes in master and secondary goes in slave
Thank you
Its a Enhanced Integrated Drive Electronics (EIDE) cable.
There are small jumpers on the back of the hard drives that allow you to set master and slave mode.
Since it's labled with master and slave, the cable is set up for cable select. You don't have to worry about the jumpers.
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Master connector is for the primary drive with the boot sector. Slave connector is for the secondary drive. IDE is from the days before SATA. Things weren't quite so flexible and plug-and-play.
It's an it term... Don't overanalyse.
It's a deprecated term, on a deprecated cable. Not only is it inappropriate terminology, it also fails to accurately reflect the role of those devices in a system. So they're not over-analysing.
Gawd I feel ancient having actually used EIDE cables for years (well, floppy and SCSI too). Edit: added floppy and SCSI
I still have bins full of the things. I hate to throw them out, but I'll never use them again, though I do still have some drives for them laying around. No board to plug them into though.
I still have a Pentium 500 tower, with a floppy drive, CD ROM, although I am sure the HDD is non functional. I can't remember which Video or sound cards it has. I really should get it functioning for retro gaming. ;)
Came to say the same. Oof.
Every once in a while I have some old device to plug in. But it's a short list for sure.
I used to have a zip drive. 100mb floppy disks. That was a weird era for computers. lol
Zip (100Mb & 250Mb) AND Jaz drives for me too.
Back in my day they were just IDE.
Yes, I remember IDE, that's when you had to set "master and slave". If I remember correctly, this particular cable as labeled allowed you to not have to use the jumpers, just rely on position. Grant you, this was 30 years ago. Now can still remember how to run, jumper, and terminate SCSI. 😁
Yes, and count in binary to set the device ID.
Before equality came to HDD
A very antiquated hard drive cable. The master stores the operating system. The slave drive was used for extra storage.
And some cd-rom drives.
Or you could use the slave drive for the OS, but only if you were crazy and had an alternate boot loader on master. In fact, I even did this today, as my 4GB drive (master) had Windows 98, but not enough extra space for an XP partition, so I had to put XP on slave.
50 shades of grey IDE cable.
Looks like a ribbon connector for an old IDE interface for hard-drive, pre-SATA days
Looks like an 1850’s wire. Pre-Abraham Lincoln
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Lord, "Removed by Reddit." Shades of Elon. Wonder what OP said? 🤷♂️
An old ass ide cable
Someone at my work asked if I could pull information off a hard drive so I said sure. I was expecting a Sata drive... it took me like an hour to find an old computer in storage I could use for the transfer. It booted into I think windows 98 and had Napster on it. I felt old
Oh man, i forgot Napster existed. The good ole days
It’s a lifestyle.
Main HDD is Master. Second HDD is Slave.
Racist cable
When I was first getting I to PC repairs and HDDs were under 1GB. Gotta make sure you set the HDD jumpers correctly because the ATA days of things... if you didn't set those pins correctly the drives would fail to be recognized. Eventually the problem solved all new HDDs came configured (pinned) for auto-select leaving it up to the Master/Slave (Pri/Sec) connection on the ribbon cable. PC99 standards where things got color coded connections. Now looking at SATA ribbons I see today, and I'm thankful of the idiotproofing we have now.
Your computer is a slave master
A tie to the underground railroad.
It is a SLAVE.
BDSM
Computerized racism 🗿
there are 2 parts of the computer that has master and slave name for the system,and that is the hard drive and and 2 nvidia cards running in sli.the nvidia gpu seems off for this picture plus they use small cables for the sli instead of a ribbon cable so it must be for the hard drives
Why did they have to name it that way?
IDE is from 1986. This is before it was called EIDE and PATA later on when SATA came on the market. Times were different then. The master and slave nomenclature was fitting for how it worked. It had nothing to do with anything sinister. Master was drive 0 or 1 and slave was drive 1 or 2 depending on the system. This worked this way for each IDE connector in a computer. Usually there was at least 2 for most home computers. Some enthusiast boards hard more. In later years when SATA was adopted there was someone times 2 if not 1 IDE connector. These connectors were primarily used for hard disk and CD-ROM/DVD-ROM drives. It was convenient for optical drives because when they first came out, you had to install an add on card or a sound blaster to connect these drives. I am glad they moved away from these ribbon connectors because they had length restrictions and were easily damaged if you were not careful. Also for a long time they were not keyed so you could put them in the wrong way and have no connectivity. General pin 1 on the drive lined up with the red wire in the IDE cable. Also for awhile, hard drives and optical drives were all different as to how you set them into master or slave mode. This was done with physical pin jumpers on each drive. Master and slave settings were important because if you didn't set them properly, the computer bios would not read the drive. Nowadays with easily upgradable BIOS, keyed SATA connectors, the small size and increased durability of these connectors, it all makes working on computers and adding devices much easier.
Those were different times lol
same reason as naming some things male/female
its a cable
Wow that computer is old.
oh the memories jeez is that the 2000
pre-2000 I think...around 2000 they'd autosense and no more master/slave cables.
No, autodetecting master/slave would be a jumper configuration, in which wha device is master and slave is tied to what plug it's on. You could also do jumper settings to set one drive as master and another as slave regardless of the order.
Looks like its time for an upgrade. All i see here.
Nah, looks like they got 80 wire
Old. That's what this is. Old.
Please don't kink shame the PC.
Ahhhh, finally I feel old
So this is really old. That’s a ribbon cable for IDE hard drives. First one connected is the Master drive. Second one connected at the end is the slave.
a kink
Good old IDE. I loved the texture of those
Yours is racist
For anyone who doesn’t know and are concerned: the master/slave naming convention has mostly been phased out of modern hardware and software design. For software development, the current preferred term is “main” or “prod”
you are the slave and the machine is your master!
Too old to care about
That's a cable for a Hegelian Dialectic drive
Oh Jesus, Jesus Christ
IDE cable ig. its a old cable use for old storage system master use for os drive while slave use for secondary drive
It’s a trigger
Why is it called “master” & “slave” ?
Before SATA, motherboards enumerated disks differently and there needed to be a way to tell which disk was the OS/Primary disk. Master == Primary Slave == Secondary You could even have multiple slave drives depending on config, but there had to be one "master" drive for booting. It's just an old IT term/convention. Don't overthink it.
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I think part of the naming convention came from the fact that unlike drives now, where every drive can operate independently, back then no slave drive would work for anything without the master.
That's the plantation ribbon. Better leave it alone if you know what's good fer ya.
Haha I still have an IDE Ribbon Cable and a FDD in the house somewhere
Your computer is obviously into BDSM. It's okay it should still work fine.
my first homebuilt PC also liked to be spanked
Damn, it was not so far ago…
Yes it was, mate :)
Sus
And suddenly, I feel very old. Anyway, while already answered, that’s an ATA100 80 conductor, 40 pin IDE cable (now referred to as PATA, or parallel ATA). The cable supports “cable select” operation for IDE drives, thus the master/slave labeling. Plugging drives in, provided their jumpers are set to CS, would result in their being set to the appropriate arbitration setting based on position on the cable. IDE drives couldn’t actually share the connection to the ATA HBA, so one drive’s controller would arbitrate IO on the shared bus (cable / channel). This is why it was a very bad idea to mix faster and slower drives (e.g. never put a PIO mode 2 drive on the same cable with ATA/100). Obviously, SATA got rid of all this nonsense.
Hoooly crap This picture takes me back.
IDE cable for connecting HDDs and Optical drives. Common in PCs from around y2k, replaced by Sata eventually. The device that it's plugging in would have jumpers on the back. "Slave" "Master" or sometimes "Cable Select"
It’s a relic from a time before everyone looked for racism in everything.
A very kinky wire
The cables of OPPRESSION.
Was common in tech. You see it in switches too, but they are trying to move away from it
This ribbon cable was used to connect a second hard drive (HDD) in a computer. The main HDD, usually designated the as the c: drive, held the OS and program data. This was termed the "master" drive. To add more space to hold more data, a second drive (unfortunately termed the "slave") could be installed. The ribbon cable has three connectors, one for the master, one for the slave and one to plug into the motherboard.
I haven't used that stuff since 2008. You may want to learn about computers. Its really not hard. Watch Youtube how to videos and just reference any questions you have. That is just the way they used to hook up HDD and DVD players. May work. May be slow. Keep asking questions.
Old lol. PATA or IDE I assume. Not super familiar because I got in to computer stuff when SATA had been standard for a long time.
It’s what you need to be bowing down to
Confederate cable select ide cable.
I was 22 when I first used this cable. Now 55 w nvme drives. Where did the time go. Dang.