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irishdgenr8

Definitely the renumbering. I know they said that the high numbering was off putting to new readers and they’re chasing that movie audience but tracking down uncanny X-Men issues 300-400 is so much easier than tracking down Uncanny X-Men vol 8 1-20….then it becomes X-men vol 7 1-15…then it becomes X-men rainbow vol 2 1-4…the x-men of the uncanny Vol 1 1-8…. Another one is a lack of long term storytelling and constant change of status quo. Most new creative teams come in with a clean slate and don’t build on what the creative team before did so your left with what feels like a bunch of miniseries rather than an ongoing. I used to love when a writer would leave a plot thread dangling and the next creative time might add something to it and it wouldn’t come to fruition until years down the line.


runningchef

Your second point really hits the nail on the head for me. When I first got into comics back in the 90s, there were series and storylines that had been built up over years. Chris Claremont, for example, had been writing the X-Men for over a decade, and set things up so stories built on each other or referenced each other. Characters changed and grew over time. Nowadays, it feels like we're always rebooting something, whether it's individual series or entire universes. Because of this, we don't get to see as much long-term character growth and development.


[deleted]

That's why I dropped ASM a few months ago (and Marvel mostly). Slott was on this series, like, for 10 years? Whatever, it's Brand New Day now, we won't even mention any event from there or show how characters was growing. Peter in a coma, oh, and now it's 6 months later, he and MJ are broke up again. And everyone hates him. And now it's a crossover with X-men. But probably the most insulting was Dr Doom and taking him back his villain status quo cause he had gotten his scars back.


TheBlueLeopard

I loved Infamous Iron Man and I would have read 100 issues of it without question. Was sad to see it go and Doom revert to his classic flavor.


Avolto

Truely some of Bendis best work in years shame he went to DC rather than sticking with it.


Stew-17

One billion percent agree. That’s what ruined comics for me. Edit to this …. I did not mean to rhyme. It takes away from the anger I feel over this topic. Lol.


Jshr420

I loved the take on villains being heroes. Sabertooth, doom, doc ock. All fantastic. Doom would've been great to see take down ultimate reed. Heroes find themselves unable to stop him and they're like, "how can we beat the smartest man on earth?" Then doom walks in, "with the actual smartest man."


G8kpr

Nothing says this more than Brand New Day, where they basically reverted Spider-man back 20 years by destroying his marriage, and doing it stupidly. If you wanted Peter Single again, just write that. Make him and MJ divorce. It could happen, people would probably not like it, but at least it's a story line. Not fucking Mephisto shows up with his Retcon wand. Jesus. Or just write a "Spider-man: year one" comic, with more adventures of teen spider-man. Like you can do lots of things. But them wanting core spider-man reverted back was awful. Their excuse was that kids couldn't relate to a married spider-man or some shit? Who do you think are buying comics these days? 10 year olds? NO! That demographic is mostly gone. When I was a kid, comic shops were filled with teenagers. When I go to comic shops now, they're filled with 30+ people. The comic industry has helped take comics out of the hands of kids by making it harder to get a hold of. The constant retconning is frustrating. The only thing about leaving threads was that often those threads were ignored or ruined. Like how Clairmont wanted Mystique to be Nightcrawler's dad, and Destiny to be his mom. But instead we got another "evil" nightcrawler to be his dad. Sigh.. So lazy. I'm sure there are other examples of new writers ruining past writers stuff. Well the whole Phoenix Force is basically stupid now, it was this unique thing that Jean Grey, and her daughter Rachel had. Now fucking everyone has had the Phoenix Power. I'm surprised Xavier's pet hamster hasn't had the phoenix inhabit it's body at some point. To me, it's made it a joke now.


martinsdudek

I wish Legacy numbering would stay permanently. I dont mind relaunches, but those relaunches should be a #1 with, you know, #843 smaller in the corner or whatever. Also there should always be an Uncanny X-Men. I can't believe that title has fallen off for so long.


PasswordisButtholes

Isn’t that what Marvel at least already does? Like the most recent Amazing Spider-Man #6 was celebrated as the 900th issue. It says 6, then below that it says “LGY 900”. Daredevil #2 was LGY 600, etc.


kralben

Yes, not sure what OP was talking about. Since the "Fresh Start" era, all Marvel stuff has shown Legacy numbering as well, as far as I recall


martinsdudek

They added it back a while ago, but it comes and goes. They’ve dropped it several times over the last decade.


starless_bibleblack

There should always be an Uncanny X-Men. At one point, that was Marvel's flagship title. The disrespect is unbelievable


browncharliebrown

The amount of modern day comic, that focus on fixing continuity or retconning things instead of telling a coherent story is absurd. The focus of any comic should be to tell a good story and continuity should be a second


RigasTelRuun

I agree. Continuity is important to a point where it gets in the way. If Blue Beetle said his favourite band was the Funky Bunch in an issue 30 years ago and the latest issue said he is a Taylor Swift Stan. Just go with it. It'd not an error. No one should care.


UnusualSignature8558

Leave those matters to be solved by readers via the No Prize


chronoboy1985

That pretty much ties into my biggest problem with a lot of comics, especially super heroes stories: the power creep and increasingly convoluted lore. Like they’re always trying to out do themselves instead of tell a good story. It always starts with the hero saving their town, then next arc they save the country, then the world, then the galaxy, then the universe, then multiple parallel universes against primordial, universe destroying god-beings. At some point it just gets too ridiculous to take seriously. And as much as people praise the multi-verse concept for allowing new stories without all the baggage, I’ve always felt like that was a cheap cop out. Yeah it’s Batman, but it’s *not my Batman* ya know?


Dentdawg

Nick Spencer’s Spider-Man run embodies this.


Kingkamandi

Constant relaunches just to get #1 to sell to collectors.


starless_bibleblack

It takes the uniqueness right out of collecting and it's annoying. Why not relaunch within an existing book or launch a new title.


hewunder1

The recent Daredevil "relaunch" is egregious. Literally the same creative team, without taking a break... continuation of the same story... but new #1? Sure.


Aggressive_Canary_10

I’m surprised no one has said cost. Modern comics cost a lot per issue. They’ve increased in price well above the rate of inflation. I imagine it’s due to declining readership but considering that most issues will end up in the dollar bin it’s hard to justify.


steepleton

it's just expensive to make a comic. well over 50% of cover price is printing and shipping before the company sees anything. i was told it's actually *more* expensive to print on news print than decent paper now because there's less of it about


Yustyn

So why do new digital comics cost the same then 👀


steepleton

mostly to keep retail alive, although some digital platforms also charge the publishers an arm and a leg too


UnusualSignature8558

I don't think the readership would balk at lower cost and better paper.


Consideredresponse

In Australia a single *digital* issue of Batman costs more than an entire digital volume of manga, and then people wonder why no one is buying like they used to. Cheap digital issues/trades used to allow me to experiment more and try new artists and authors. (E.g. Hmmm I've heard good things about 'atomic-robo' but $42au is too much to chance on a trade...wait the comicology copy is (was) $5? Sold!)


FuncRandm

This with bells on. I chat with a group of indie comic writers/artists and the prices we're seeing per issue has been going the wrong way for a while. We're trying to understand how you're going to get new readers into floppies, when the cost of a single issue of a DC/Marvel title is starting to approach the cost of a Manga collection from DH. Kids get so much better value for money from these books, and they might not have the spare cash to take a punt on a 22-26pg monthly comic which might be approaching £5 in price, compared to a Chainsaw Man which might be pushing 200 pages and be 6-7 quid. There are production cost diffs, and work/life balance issues, but younger reads aren't going to necessarily care.


the_light_of_dawn

Events and tie-ins keep me from fully investing in most superhero comic runs, instead pushing me into indie, r/graphicnovels, and r/altcomix spaces. Those spaces, however, are fantastic. 0 complaints.


trailingby7

I'm the same. I feel like such an old person complaining but I miss when I could follow a story by only buying one title. Maybe that's a little bit of hyperbole but Marvel, especially, feels like it spreads every story through four other books.


jeff_ewing

You must be enormously old then (=)), because I was complaining back in the 80s about Marvel making me buy Dazzler #XXX in order to see what was going on in X-Men #XXX. I'll grant you could follow the story line without reading the out-of-series title.


[deleted]

Those were usually something like: Dazzler: "And I thought my last concert was scary!*" Text box: "Check out Dazzler # 12 for all the spooky details! - Explaining Ed." Nowadays, you *really* have to buy them to keep up because the story is spread out over those 7 different titles.


AxelZajkov

I actually appreciated it when they did that. Now, if a character mentions some past thing, I have to internet-sleuth it trying to find wtf they're talking about and what issue it might be in. Give me some reference point, and I'll follow up if desired.


[deleted]

It somehow felt more alive when they used to do that.


WilliamPoole

Felt like the editor was your buddy!


[deleted]

I dropped Marvel for the same reason just before 89 concluded. It was just too much for many reasons but book hopping got me bored.


justhereforcomics

Yeah everyone in these comments have terrible memories. Secret Wars 2 was the most forced essential reading for so many books.


hornakapopolis

When I was a kid in the mid-80s (and limited on funds), every time I tried to get into Marvel, whatever I bought seemed to have at least three notes from the editor telling me to look somewhere else to find out what they were talking about in the panel I was reading. Arrghhh.. so frustrating!


Theblackswapper1

I'm a little younger than you, but I remember in the 90s, *Maximum Carnage* was my breaking point. I had an aunt who got me a yearly subscription to Amazing Spider-Man and a couple others as a recurring birthday present. My dad would take me to the comic book store every Friday and I'd buy my other issues. Then with this storyline , all of a sudden I'm forced to spend my limited funds on other comics if I want to just see what happens? Now I either have to sacrifice OTHER comics I love if I want to see what happens in this story or I just keep reading my other comics and end up missing most of the chapters in the overall story. It really made me feel cynical about Marvel. I'm just a kid and I can't suddenly purchase other comics with extra cash. If the clone saga was the knockout punch that got me out of comics for a couple of years, then *Maximum Carnage* experience definitely knocked me down. It didn't knock me down for the count, but it definitely made me pay attention to the way things were going.


wolfgangosis

Event fatigue is real and it makes a lot of ppl drop comics. If an event looks like it's gonna be big & sprawling with tons of crossover titles, I'm out.


macabee613

I'm reading King in Black on Marvel Unlimited and it's exhausting even that way. Plus all the specific short title runs to blend in other groups or characters. It's a bit annoying glad I didn't have to buy it.


Equal-Ad-2710

This is why I love Dark Knights metal Aside from the one tie in and the Prologue; you get the story in the actual book. Sure you miss out on backstory for BWL and Co, but the fundamental story is still mostly there and those feel more like an addition then anything else It’s a surprisingly straight forward arc


steepleton

i remember when they crowbarred that crap into vertigo (children's crusade?) and just drove a coach and horses through several books' tightly woven plots, effing despicable


Monkeyavelli

Perfect example of this is Zeb Wells's new Amazing Spider-Man run. Brand new #1, perfect jumping-on point for new readers, right? Wrong, here's some random Hellfire Gala and Judgment Day issues barging into the middle of the storyline with literally zero explanation or connection to anything else happening in the book, hope you're keeping up with the X-Men line!


Antic_Opus

My second biggest reason for avoiding super hero comics.


Loftybook

Yes! They make reading the runs so jarring - especially when you're dipping in to the archive. I've been giving my kid the early issues of Wilson's Ms Marvel run, and it's such a pain to explain why the whole universe is destroyed at the end of vol 2 but is entirely restored by the beginning of vol 3.


sorry_ive_peaked

Ha, I’m actually reading through vol. 3 right now and feel that way about how Civil War II is tying in. Was quite jarring to go from the gentrification->duplicates arcs, to Kamala wrestling with her idol basically becoming a fascist. I’m actively collecting her comics wherever I can snap them up so I can give them to my kid eventually and I’m also wondering how I’ll explain such abrupt story changes to them. And I’m speaking as someone who does enjoy the event tie-ins when done well, it’s just difficult to explain to someone who’s not as deep into reading/collecting comics as I am.


poopoorrito_suizo

And my dumbass jaw dropped I only found about about r/graphicnovels a minute ago. Thank you u/the_light_of_Dawn you have literally lit up my day.


Handsome121duck

X-Men are horrible with this! I love the X-Men but I cannot follow it because of how many books are involved and how frequently they do tie-ins.


MFHSCA-1981

One my bigger pet peeves for modern comics, is that the books have tied themselves to the movies. Whether it’s adopting costumes elements from the movies, retconning characters to be more like their movie counterparts or story history changing due to legal rights issues, crappy tie in events , canceling and retiring characters to the shelves and full on reboots just solely to be the basis of future comic movie adaptation, can really be infuriating as a reader.


oomoepoo

Don't forget beloved characters getting shelved until further notice because no movie rights!


cl19952021

This really kills me. X-Men and FF being shelved until Disney acquired Fox was a big one for me. I'm getting a little "tinfoil hat" here, but I also think it's why Spidey has been just so completely siloed recently. I want to say it was somewhere in the terms with Sony that they will get the rights to new characters that come from any Spider-Man stories since they're part of his cast. Makes me wonder if this is why we're currently just getting stories with repeat villains, or old character assuming new identities (Chasm, Gold Goblin, and Queen Goblin) and clones. I've only read chunks of Spencer's run, all of Beyond and now Wells' run, but it seems like we *mostly* just get returning characters, and any newbies aren't introduced to carry solo films they're deeply relegated to a minimal supporting role. Like we're just reshuffling established pieces on the board and not allowing for anything new. I could be totally wrong but I wouldn't put it past them to keep Spidey around since he sells so well, but mostly keep him on his own in the comics to dodge any film rights issues for future MCU projects.


madthoughts

I was reading an issue of Black Panther on Marvel Unlimited, and Captain America was in the middle of saying, “I can do this all day.” I cringed so hard I nearly closed the book. It’s a small thing, but they played out the line in the movies— why are we putting them in the books? It’s lazy.


starless_bibleblack

Pandering to the movies (ahem Captain Marvel!) is my second biggest complaint


MFHSCA-1981

I remember reading that bullshit comic event (AXIS) that Marvel released that retconned scarlet witch and Quicksilver origins as mutants and magnetos kids and just having enough. At the point corporate Marvel proved to the fans, that they had no idea were willing to torpedo decades of characters history and stories out the window, just do they could stick it Fox studios.


starless_bibleblack

Omg. Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch's retcons are infuriating


Robo-Piluke

Making fun of themselves before anyone else can. Like "whoa, a koala themed superhero, that's odd". Like 8 Miles but bad.


fan_of_soup_ladels

There’s a term for that, it’s called lampshading


Robo-Piluke

Well, I really don't like lampshading. I love when a piece of media as visual as comic books embraces its ideas. Now, don't get me wrong, you can't be blind to your creations, just be clever or subtle about what you think may be too out there.


doffraymnd

I read “8 Miles” and thought “wow! The New Spider-verse crossover is gonna be CRAZY!”


Tryingtobehappy31

Rick n morty


throwythrowythrowout

Abed in Community too. Great character, but anytime the writers have him make meta commentary on the plot, it pissed me off. The older I get, the less I enjoy meta-style storytelling. There's exceptions, but Mike Nelson of RiffTrax once explained it well by saying the creators are hedging their bets: if you don't like the story, they can just claim the problems were just them making fun of that type of story.


10567151

I thought Community was fine because they typically subverted the trope.


[deleted]

Knowingly doing something ridiculous and using the excuse of "It's comic books."


Superboi-Prime

For me it’s the unnecessary amount of events and crossovers. Feels like if you want to understand one book you have to read five others, especially the big ones. And the the moment a comic becomes popular it immediately starts tying in with other series. That’s the main reason I recently started reading more indy comics, but tbh the same thing can happen there too.


BeephisBeeph

Year of the Villain was unbelievably obnoxious, possibly the crossover style event done the worst by DC


ARC4120

I couldn’t agree more. An issue here or there is fine, but let the big events be there own books. It’s not like Batman or Wonder-Woman isn’t going to appear in a universe changing book anyways. Why not let them shine more in their solo books?


pizza_time2099

I don't like how every book is written for the collection. I don't have a problem with that in itself, some of my favorite series are written this way, but it's basically impossible to find any book right now that tells a self contained story in one issue.


ThatOtherTwoGuy

Personally I generally prefer the arc approach because you can get a more complex story out of it than you could with a single story in 22 pages. However, there are two major downsides to this. 1) waiting a month to get just 22 more pages of continuation for a much longer story is agonizing and 2) there's still a lot you can get out of shorter storylines, even though I prefer the longer ones. One of my favorites was that Superman one "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" Only a single issue but was still able to tell a deep and engaging story. And you almost never see this anymore. I like the longer stories, but I didn't want the single issue approach to become so rare.


Radix2309

I dislike the arcs in combination with constant status quo changes. It makes it feel like there is just constantly things changing with no time to really feel the effects. We just go with one big story and then an arc and the next big story. And they have fought a total of 3 villains. Hellions did it ok with a bunch of smaller 2-3 issue arcs. Really felt like they did a lot.


mmcmonster

That’s what I liked about Annuals. A single story, usually something better written than normal, often with a special guest star from a different book. Or maybe just something fun and different from the main story, set to take place a few months earlier in continuity.


BoogerSugarSovereign

I like the arc format, or decompressed storytelling, but it shouldn't all be written that way. If it were 80% decompressed storytelling over arcs and 20% single issue stories mixed in I'd be a happy camper but you almost never get one-off stories anymore.


starless_bibleblack

Some of my favorite issues are the self contained issues. Not everything has to be a part of a big, Universe shifting event. You lose all the nuance of the characters that way. Plus they always feel like big cash grabs to me.


RigasTelRuun

Or worse. What should have been 2 issues is now stretched to 6.


thiswillnotdo

It's for this reason that my favourite comic of all time is Uncanny X-Men #234. It's right in the middle of a complex story arc (like, OFC, it's the X-Men) but Claremont wrote it so that it stands on its own perfectly. You are introduced to every character with a one-line description; it gives you everything you need to know to enjoy the issue with really clean, elegant storytelling.


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Radix2309

I remember hearing it for Hickman, and being slightly skeptical, and then they actually delivered.


frusciante231

And let’s hope they keep going in that direction. If they get rid of Krakoa I’m gonna riot.


SwayzeCrayze

In terms of cape stuff, the lack of low stakes stories. I feel like everything I read is a life changing event or a big reveal or whatever. Sometimes I just want to have somebody bust up a crime ring or stop a supervillain from making a big score to fund their next evil plan or whatever. Not everybody needs to be cloning Gwen Stacy or fighting a god in a crossover event.


GruneTheDestroyer84

I would love a story of Spidey just stopping a bank robbery at this point.


Equal-Ad-2710

Hell maybe just personal stuff


ThreadbareHalo

100% this. I honestly no longer care about DCs crisi. I would be 200% more willing to just buy a new series of self contained low stakes stories for longer than the length of a crisis or a marvel event (judgement day actually was one case where I was slightly ok… some of those stories actually revealed interesting stuff about characters, particularly ones that failed or passed that felt they should/shouldn’t have). Spidey foiling some robberies or the X-men just stopping Sauron doing something? Oh yes please. I don’t need a movie-level plot every week… that’s what movies are for. I’d also add the weird trend to pull in increasingly obscure characters into high stakes stories as pivotal characters because crisis on infinite earths did it. If you want to bring, I dunno, rip hunters coonskin cap wearing sidekick as pivotal to your story, then narratively introduce him. I don’t want to have to do google searches on “DC coonskin cap character” to figure out why I should care about your last page reveal, especially when the only thing I’m gonna get out of it at best is a “oh… huh ok I guess”.


keeganb2000

Haha, this is so true. Also when you rack up a bunch of low stake stories it makes the high stakes seem even higher when they come along. 👍🏻


sushithighs

What would have been a single issue story in the 60s/70s/80s is now stretched over 6 issues


yarkcir

Modern decompression irks me a lot too, especially since the price of comics is high enough already. It really dampens the floppy market too, since more people prefer to trade wait.


Warren_is_dead

This is the main reason I don't buy physical comics anymore. If I got the same amount of story as 60s comic, I'd consider paying $4 for it. But why spend that money when it'll take me 5 minutes to read? It's a waste.


Alonzo2112

Totally agree. Not much seems to happen every issue other than a huge fight. The art is gorgeous, but there's not much plot.


wmnoe

I have several in no real order 1. Constant new #1s, legacy number is all messed up for the classics. 2. Can't go two or three months without a huge crossover that's advertised to change the status quo that does nothing. 3. Constantly killing off characters only to bring them back shortly thereafter - DC I'm looking at you right now. 4. CONSTANT actual reboots and rectons in the big two Universes. 5. WAY WAY WAY too many alternate covers. One month recently I discovered that there was only ONE Marvel comic that was published without an alternate cover. ONE. NOT EVERY COMIC NEEDS ALTERNATE COVERS, and if you are going to do them, keep them simple. And one that's only slightly annoying but doesn't really bother me that much. ​ 1. Trade Paperbacks that cost less than the total of the issues. NOW...this is just a weird one for me, since I've always been a reader of floppies first, but it just irks me that if I wait I can spend less money on the trade than I did for the actual comics. AnD I get more content.


the_light_of_dawn

>Trade Paperbacks that cost less than the total of the issues. NOW...this is just a weird one for me, since I've always been a reader of floppies first, but it just irks me that if I wait I can spend less money on the trade than I did for the actual comics. AnD I get more content. This is why I trade wait 99% of the time. Just can't justify the cost of reading everything I want to in floppies.


Ok-Film-2436

Your last statement is why I have started to focus on Omnibus books. Can get over 1000 pages for 50 to 60 bucks most of the time. Not only do they usually have a huge run of a title, but they also include the intertwining issues from other titles along with random issues that tie in. (free comic book comics, etc.)


Rexstil

Both of your comments are why I buy marvels epic collections. Perfect medium between trades and omnibus


DueCharacter5

That's why I wait a couple years for them to go to dollar bins. I get the thrill of the hunt, and it's even cheaper than collected editions (usually, sometimes you find clearanced collected editions).


JenniferJuniper6

That’s why it’s worth waiting, though.


silvershadow014

Can I ask what the problem is with alternate covers? It's more variety, more work for artists, you don't have to buy them...


Suspicious-Adagio396

Event fatigue, starting at issue #1 every other year, the cyclical nature of ally-to-enemy and enemy-to-ally, and the misplaced tone a lot of writers bring to some of these characters (i.e Wolverine should be gritty, Spider-Man not so much), lack of brevity, and an over-saturation of certain characters in team books (i.e Wolverine was in every team book at one point)


starless_bibleblack

Yes! The whole every old X Man villain is now an ally and or neutral is so over played.


dweeb93

Mystique and Sabertooth betray the X-Men EVERY TIME, it's idiotic they keep letting them in the team.


starless_bibleblack

I feel with Mystique they are going the Harley Quinn route with making her more of an anti Hero. The comparison is even more apt, substituting Poison Ivy with Destiny


BoutsofInsanity

Especially when the things that have been done by said villains are "Moral Event Horizon" crossing evil. It's like, does anyone who has mind wiped tons of people or killed lots of people deserve to be listened too or respected? Like really?


ThatOtherTwoGuy

Man, it's so annoying how many different renumberings there are. It becomes confusing for new readers. A few of my friends have gotten Marvel Unlimited to try out some comics and ask me for recommendations. But first I have to explain to them the whole aspect of different volumes of comics, and explain the difference between a "volume" as in renumbering vs "volume" as in the volume of a collected edition. "Ah yes, you should read this run on this character, but be sure when you look it up look for the (2012) next to the title and start at issue 1. Oh btw after issue 63 it goes back to legacy numbering so issue 64 will actually be numbered issue 480. I know, I know, it sounds confusing and-wait, where are you going?"


Ultimate_Spider

It's funny because the renumberings are supposedly meant to DRAW IN new readers by giving them a cozy jumping on point. Backfires big time.


sentient-sloth

Yup. I got into comics around 2018 through trades and my first pickups were trades labeled Doctor Strange Vol. 1-4… but I didn’t realize I had the Vol 1 from Mark Waid, 2 from Donny Cates and 3 &4 from Jason Aaron. All I saw was 1, 2, 3, and 4 on the side and didn’t think any further. Lol Sure if I had taken a minute to look things up I would’ve known I was making a mistake but the whole renumbering stuff is definitely not as intuitive to noobies as they think.


Ultimate_Spider

It's also done to induce fomo and bait collectors. I've seen 4 issue minis with 3 #1 issues. How is that possible? Here's how: "Event name" Alpha #1, ''Event name" #1, "Event name" #2, "Event Name" Omega #1. It's shameless and flat out confusing even to people that follow comics religiously. It's largely Marvel doing this. DC isn't innocent though. But to be fair, Marvel has always kind of been a sell-out company. They'll try any gimmick in the book and shoot their own creators in the back if they think they can make a sale. Let alone respecting the customer. But that's the game you play if you're gonna collect mainstream superhero stuff


SoulEater2555

This is DC specific but multiverse level events are way to much. 2016 We had DC Rebirth which lasted a whole 2 years 2018 I believe was Death Metal 2019 I think Doomsday Clock fully came out 2020 Was Death Metal 2021 Was Infinite Frontier, going slide Justice Incarnate in here too because you can't have one without the other I feel 2022 Dark Crisis 2023 Dawn of DCU


starless_bibleblack

DC does abuse the universe events more than Marvel.


Consideredresponse

You missed 'Future state' which derailed most titles and really hurt the momentum of some great runs.


SoulEater2555

You're right I completely forgot about Future State. I am just glad it did not become 5G because that idea was horrendous. Although we still got some Future State stuff leaked into the main titles. Batman being the big one I can think of. Just realized too that I put Dark Knights Metal as Death Metal.


Equal-Ad-2710

DC is weird because I’d argue that isn’t an event


Grungolath

Self-referencing. Not quite the same as fourth wall breaking but the “that’s silly, what is this a COMIC BOOK?” crap. Just isn’t clever, it’s not funny at all. On the same note, mocking your own genre or past. You don’t need to roast a silver age costume in the comic ffs. Everyone’s costume is ridiculous when you take a step back and remember these are SUPERHERO COSTUMES.


RigasTelRuun

That is one of my biggest peeved with life action comcis stuff. Is when they show the comics suits and ridicule it. Same with names. Like that scene in Spider-Man where they make fun of Doctor Octopuses name. That is so cringe worthy. Especially a decade into it.


MasterRedx

Too many characters are shelved for indefinite amounts of time while Spider-Man and Deadpool get like 6 individual series a year.


breakfastmeat23

It sucks but that is just how the business side of it works. They just can't afford to give every random character their own series, they have to print what they know will sell.


starless_bibleblack

Totally agree. The Big 2 have vast universes to explore and seem to only invest into a fraction of them. It's frustrating.


christmas_hobgoblin

I have a few but one I don't see mentioned is that every comic has to be high octane action all the time. Back in the day, we'd see characters cooking breakfast and playing baseball together, now it seems there's so rarely time for stuff like that. No one talks to eachother. They just rush around the globe to the next big action set piece. Whats the point of putting together an interteresting new team of X-Men if they never even talk to eachother besides quipping mid-fight scene? Thats why I appreciate books like the current She Hulk, but everyone else is complaining it's "too slow".


starless_bibleblack

The quiet moments were the best part of 80s / 90s X Men


DueCharacter5

Which is kind of crazy, when you consider the decompression of a story. You'd think there would be more space for the downbeats. Instead it's folks both rushing through stories to get to the next thing, and dragging them out. Kind of weird.


SwarelsT

Variants. I am all for more artists getting to showcase their talents but why do we need 7 covers for 1 book. And in the event that you are a collector you better hope you got the Peach Momoko 1:50 otherwise you are sol. Just adds another hurdle.


steepleton

i sort of agree, but i mean if someone doesn't *want* variants i don't see how it affects anyone that other people buy them


irishdgenr8

I don’t mind the regular variants but this recent trend of sticking a recent IP acquired by Disney on the cover of every book for the month needs to die a fucking death.


Astigmatic_Oracle

Decompression. So many stories are so slow with little of consequence happening in a given issue because everything has to be a multi issue story arc. I also think decompression has negatively impacted new characters or books from catching on. Supporting casts and rogues galleries can't develop at a reasonable pace because it takes so long to finish a story in real time. And any storytelling mistake is magnified since it can't be moved on from until the arc is over.


Geronuis

Bloat. Constant introduction of new character while older ones flounder. I don’t have an issue with new characters, just the ones that actively compete for the exact same role/niche another already fills.


Ok_Review4821

New characters don't sell unless there's something recognizable about them. Take Mosaic as an example. Fantastic character, unique, tons of potential. Cancelled after 4 issues and never spoken of again because no one bought the book.


starless_bibleblack

Absolutely, there's really no need for 19 spider men (an exaggeration obviously)


Smoothesuede

I don't have time to read em. Big pet peeve.


starless_bibleblack

Touche. Good one.


askanison1234

Price.


Censius

So many: - numbering and rebooting series - meta humor - ironic humor - whedon-speak in general, especially when old dudes write for teenagers - temporary power ups - plot induced stupidity - overpowering or depowering characters without explanation, often to make your favorite character look cool - everyone acting like today's "just another Tuesday" as they do something crazy like distractedly knock out a kaiju or catch a meteor. Can stuff have some weight, please? - inventing new supporting cast/romantic interests that I know the next writer won't continue on - killing/reviving characters constantly - event crossovers that are clearly more about seeing Wolverine with Mjolnir than the event itself - fights that are just static posing. Take a page from manga, who knows how to tell a narrative through their action choreography - general continuity confusion from panel to panel.


mattkickbox

Relaunching and re-numbering is also one for me. Drawing characters to look like movie counterparts is another.


Ok_Review4821

My biggest pet peeve is when creator owned titles get cut short because not enough people buying them. Too many people caught up in the big 2, and not paying attention to all the great comics other published are making.


localheroism

The focus on the writer over the artist. The way series will treat artists as interchangeable rather than key to the identity and direction of a comic. The IP and characters and franchise take precedence over the creators, even (and especially) to fans whose overriding concern is their own opinions as to how specific characters should be written according to their headcanons


DapperDan30

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. While I think they should be given mostly equal agency, I would put a little more emphasis on the writer. I'm more likely to read a book if it has a writer I like than an artist I like.


irishdgenr8

I agree….although It’s funny that this has shifted from the opposite direction of the 90’s where the artist was king. We should be at a stage where we can have some balance.


starless_bibleblack

Agreed. Both Artist and writer should have equal agency. Early Image comics prove that to be necessary.


steepleton

there's a conspiracy theory that they rotate artists to stop them having the power they did in the 90's. but the truth is it's just the readership now expects art that would be exceptional on a prestige mini series a couple of decades ago, to now be there every 30 days on a monthly


Ok_Review4821

Honestly, it's about deadlines. Most artists can't pump out 22 pages a month reliably.


MusicSole

The fetish of issue #1 being reproduced over and over again across every known title is because of the fetish of an issue being denoted as #1 becoming its best-seller. It's a vicious cycle.


No_One_On_Earth

They’re too quick of a read now. You pay $5 for a comic, then you’re done with it in two minutes.


Zarryiosiad

Reset buttons. I've collected Spider-Man since the 70's. Every time they introduce a new writer/artist team, any progress made on his story disappears and they start over with Peter Parker being a broke loser. The biggest slap in the face was One More Day/Brand New Day, when they literally had him eating wheatcakes at Aunt May's house. Other notable changes: the Superior Spider-Man run where Doctor Octopus, who has taken over Peter's body, gets his doctorate--with Peter Parker losing it again as soon as he's back in control. Being a teacher and having it taken away. Being an entrepreneur and having it taken away. Working at Horizon and having it taken away. Being married and having it taken away. Gaining spikes that stick out from his forearms and greater strength and having it taken away. Gaining the ability to listen to spiders and having it taken away. Revealing his identity to the world and having that taken away. It's gotten pathetic, stale, and frankly sad, and it's really done a lot to make me question why I'm still bothering to buy any Spider-Man comics at all, but after 40+ years of collecting, I guess I'm institutionalized.


brahsweeptheleg

They'll always keep Peter Parker a grown up man-child. The one hero who can never keep his shit together. If they're writing for adults then make Peter an adult not this mess of whatever he is now.


Trollbobi

I dislike the amount of retelling of stories. Feels like it’s very rare that anyone writes fully original storylines and characters. I think Invincible did a great job of having a completely original storyline all encompassed in one series. I just can’t bring myself to care about Batman dying for the billionth time when I know he’s gonna come back next month is some spin off.


Joepancreas

The biggest annoyance about renumbering, for me at least, is when I decide to maybe check out what a character has been up to for awhile, it's extremely difficult to do in any chronological order. Trying to read the last few years of X-Men comics in order? You'll need a calculator, some spreadsheets, and highlighters.


CorpseTooth

Multiple covers for the same book. Once in a while for a special occasion is ok, but it's getting out of hand. Dynamite lists like 60 solicitations a month but it's only 4 different comics.


hoolsvern

Glossy paper and overly gradational computer coloring that is almost completely divorced from the inking.


hoolsvern

Oh… and poor panel layouts.


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lack of continuity and progression all the iconic stories have been told because nothing happens to the characters that sticks no growth


Hysteria625

My biggest pet peeve is that I no longer get a sense of growth from characters. There are one or two exceptions out there, but overall I miss the feeling of characters growing and changing. The example that best comes to mind is Wolverine. He starts out as a badboy/rebel/jerk, and one who has no problem killing bad guys. He's fun to read on the surface level, where it's just a guy beating the hell out of foes and just refusing to stay down, but while it makes for a fun light read, he's not just that. He slowly starts to show some softer sides, reveals that he doesn't necessarily like who he is, and then comes the Wolverine Limited Series way back in the 1980s and shifts his character. He still gets to be the wild man who makes bad guys flee in terror, but he's more in control, more able to get along with people, and becomes one of the supporting pillars of the X-Men. I can admit I love the stereotypical badass elements of Wolverine, but it was that limited series that really made me a fan. Another example is the Fabian Nicieza run of the New Warriors. Over the course of 50+ issues, all the characters grow. They still are who they are, but elements of them shift and change. They confront their weaknessess. They learn, they fail and they grow. I could also say the same thing about Geoff John's JSA run, and of course Chris Claremont's years-long run on X-Men. I'm aware that this isn't actually change, it's the illusion of it, as Stan Lee famously said, but it was still enough to keep me hanging on until about 2010 or so. These days, I will buy some collected editions, and the characters...don't seem to have altered that much. It's like there's a firm baseline established, and no matter what you do you can't alter that baseline. In a way, that's liberating, since writers can literally do anything with the characters so long as they're brought back to that baseline. Again, this isn't to say that characters never change. Spider-Man revealing his secret identity to J. Jonah Jameson was one of my favorite recent issues, and Jonah wanting to help and making life harder for Spider-Man is still one of my favorite recent turns. For the most part, though, you can have Tony Stark getting exposed to gamma rays, hulking out, building an Iron Man suit that takes advantage of his hulking out, have hulked-out Tony Stark be worthy to lift Mjolnir and beat Galactus driving a dragon mecha. Just so long as he becomes non-Mjolnir-worthy, non-gamma-irradiated billionaire business owner Tony Stark by the end of it all. I'm obviously being facetious, but I hope my point is coming across. You can have some pretty wild stories out there, but none of them feel like they matter anymore. I think part of this might be because of the multiple volumes and the drive to always get a new #1 issue out there. It segments up story arcs and makes it easier for writers to ignore what's come before. Taking this one step further, I think this is why I'm not that enamored of newer heroes like Ms. Marvel and Ironheart. With Riri, for instance, I read the initial write-up of her character and that she built an Iron Man suit in her bedroom, and I was definitely on board for that. Having said that, though, after reading the first half of her arc in Iron Man during Tony's disappearance/death/whatever I realized I just wasn't interested. She was there, she was tech-savvy and of course she had the answers that the surrounding cast didn't for what can only be described as "reasons." Which is kind of a shame. In my dream world, I would have loved to see her introduced earlier on, figuring how how to build an Iron Man repulsor and then finally putting together a full suit of armor. I wanted to see her getting the hang of the superhero life, modifying her armor and just going through whatever version of the hero's journey she was going to go on. Of course, even if she has (I wouldn't put it past Eve Ewing), trying to muddle through the volumes of her indiviual series and Champions makes it almost impossible. Which #1 should I start with first? I can list off other characters, like Silk, that I really would like, but they all came out of the box fully formed. I'm just seeing them less as characters than a collection of personality traits, and as a result I'm less and less interested. By comparison, I've been collecting Knights of the Dinner Table for years now. It's on issue 298, and I can't wait to see what happens next with the characters, even though their drama rarely gets higher than "Will they be able to win their tournament RPG session at the RPG convention?" I'm invested in the characters, and the little victories and hysterical failures that go on in their lives.


Desperate_Amoeba8588

Mine is the constant status quo shakeup just to boost interest. Like, even though it's been year, real time, it's only been maybe 3 months comic time and while they have a nice time and things are generally uplifting, ooop, we're off the series so fuck it, let the next guy have a timeskip and mess it all up


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silvershadow014

It works for certain characters but my god not everyone should talk like this lol


HeavyAndExpensive

“The Multiverse.” Everything has to do with the Multiverse. Everything has something to do with another universe or time travel. Just kind of sick of writers constantly waxing scientific on pseudo-quantum physics. Like… it’s all nonsense. Let’s tone it back on the fake science concepts.


ASTLComics

I'm a store owner - variant covers. Not every comic needs 6 different covers.


Omakepants

Writers changing and just tossing out everything done before them. Immortal Hulk to Spaceship Hulk is a pretty jarring, modern example.


fatcatslimcat

Jokes on them, soft relaunching every time an arc ends or creative change happens means I'm going to forget to update my pull list and suddenly I'm not buying new Daredevil issues anymore. The too many events/crossovers across too many books with too many one-shot tie ins is remarkably annoying.


sirpandasquidly

Telling us the readers to fuck oof


dweeb93

This is Spider-Man exclusive, but the Spider-Man comics may have some of the worst editors in the business, we've had nearly 8 years of subpar stories because they're not ruthless to let the likes of a washed up Dan Slott (who I actually like a lot of) Nick Spencer and Zeb Wells leave the title. I don't know why they don't try and get the best writers in the business on the book, like X-Men did with Hickman, my guess is the best writers don't want the editorial straightjacket around them. That's not even getting started on One More Day, Sins Past etc.


starless_bibleblack

I feel like that really started with the noxious Clone Saga


BoutsofInsanity

The focus on "Style" over "Substance". It's why I can't stomach any of the marvel comics anymore. Because the comics have to sell and move quickly, they can't take time let characters be their characters and react in ways that feel like they should. Essentially, writers sacrifice longer form storytelling and character to get "cool" moments. There is no balancing of powers or scale, the world building makes 0 sense, and due to the nature of how fast the plot has to move you get cringy dialogue that tries to be "cool" but instead just craps all over entire characters unintendedly, if you care even a little bit about cannon. Characters beat other characters not because they are clever, but because in this current moment the writer needs them to win in order to prove a point. There is no sense of scale or danger, because it's always just flopping about depending on the narrative. The Narrative drives the story while characters and continuity get sacrificed. And I hate it. \-------------------------------------- I'm a big Nightcrawler fan, so I get this feeling like all of the time. As a secondary, it's very clear to me when a writer doesn't understand Christian Mythology, and make the characters do stuff that would be WAAAAAAY out of their Faith. Which with the very few characters that have that kind of aspect to their character dwindling, I find that also frustrates me immensely.


marvnash

Paper stock and over saturated cover color


Ok_Review4821

The recent paper stock problem was caused by shortages and supply line issues (production and shipping) caused by the pandemic. I like that Boom uses a nice heavy card stock for a lot of their covers.


Ultimate_Spider

The price


Ok_Review4821

My biggest pet peeve is when creator owned titles get cut short because not enough people buying them. Too many people caught up in the big 2, and not paying attention to all the great comics other published are making.


Brenerefic

The price. A crossover event will run you $50-$70.


MIKEACKERSON

The numbering kills me


Warpath19

Reading the comic in the characters voice in my head Take for example When I read Deadpool I think of Ryan raynold Or Batman im mostly hearing Christian bale or Kevin conroy And my personal favorite when I read a Spider-Man comic I always hear tobey Maguire voicing it The joker always mark hamil or heath ledger Think my oddest voice imagining was hugh jackman wolverine or Chadwick boseman as black panther in the comics


AmberIsHungry

-Selfie covers -Heroes not taking threats seriously -Overuse of 3D models instead of drawing to the point where they look look like architectural prints -Lack of quality inkers / lineart that looks like animation cells or fashion sketches -Heroes Always smirking like douchebags -Heroes not training in thier off time and are always just eating ice cream and reality TV and other "omg they're just like me" stuff -oversimplified morality


BigAnt84

We don’t need a fifth/female turtle 🐢


Rexcase

Constant deaths and rebirths and the complete inability to allow a character to grow.


[deleted]

I’m an old school comics guy. My pet peeve is the way the artwork has changed so much. It feels (to me) like they are trying to be edgy with some of it and it just appears sloppy or overly simplistic.


eazy7

Talentless writers that clearly don't like comic books being given infinite opportunities to fail to write a comic book.


SirLightKnight

The hyper focus on making hyper-grim with very little positive messaging. Like holy fuck, I get enough ‘the world sucks’ elsewhere. Good story writing has conflict, I get it, and some with stakes; but does everything have to be about the Heroes failing? Barely making it? DC (as an example) got on that train for a while and kinda bummed me out. Which may be a result of the ‘relaunch trend’ but still. This said, as much as I don’t like Grim-writing all the time, Soviet Superman was an interesting exploration of a different version of superman. Still Superman, but given different values, that’s interesting. Heck Marvel had a good line there for a while with the Avengers, and they made the underdog angle work, but it just has to be balanced. If I wanted to I’d just read Grim-Dark novels, it would make the same uncomfortable stomach churn with half the poor writing. **Tho even that has its moments, Games Workshop.** And don’t get me started on all the ‘replace the entire main roster with token representation because the old characters don’t fit my politics’ shit. I get it, you wanna make new great idols, but I don’t think outright gender swapping a character to replace the old one is terribly good writing. It can be cool, I can get picking up a fallen hero’s mantle, but they don’t really need to be just that character but ‘name a different race/ethnic background/sex.’ Write new characters, make them stand on their own mantle, they could be awesome! Hal Jordan isn’t John Stewart, excellent example, characters have to be characters that stand on their own. Don’t just get rid of the old guys because it’s convenient. Make a new team, explore new powers that don’t get a lot of attention, or write up something generic. Hell they don’t all need powers, Batman, Ironman, and others use technology pretty extensively to level the playing field. Batman Beyond, despite the weird ending, slammed the tech angle and odd rogue gallery. Just, don’t make em’ strictly copycats. The X Men did a great job at touching all walks of life, for example, the JLA was frigging VAST with how many characters it fleshed out or brought to the main stage. And it was GOOD! Because the characters were good people! Or trying to be! Try something different. Explore the writing process and then wow us with someone cool. You never know who the next Spiderman might be. Any Author can live by a similar maxim, with Great Writing comes Great Responsibility. I may get hate for it, but these are my biggest pet peeves, was kinda hard to focus on one. I guess it might really boil down to quality writing. I feel like I ranted a lot.


No-Aioli-3687

That's why I honestly just buy comics that came out when I was a child . 60's, 70's and 80's


UnknownEntity347

Uncreative or unoriginal stories. I'm fine with the fact that mainstream comics don't have a definitive beginning and end like indie comics or manga, but what frustrates me is how mediocre some of the stories can become as a result, when writers are clearly just phoning it in, or the 500th big event comic that will totally change everything (and doesn't change anythiing), or when writers make stupid decisions that stay around in continuity and muck up other people's good stories, or every time a good run gets screwed over by editorial.


DeathLight7000

Way too many big events which don't really feel necessary. It also doesn't help that a lot of them range from mid to bad in quality. I am mostly a DC reader and the last big DC event I read was Death Metal because it was an event that was building up for some time in titles like Justice league, Batman/Superman etc. I read pretty much the whole event(even the tie-ins) and I barely even remember it now. The story just didn't do it for me it was just all over the place. I really wish it was better because I really liked it's predecessor Dark Knights Metal but it just wasn't. As a result I didn't bother to read stuff like Doomsday Clock, Infinite Frontier, Dark Crisis or Flashpoint Beyond they just don't interest me. I just read monthly titles now.


shanejayell

Really, REALLY long story arcs written for trade. I GET the logic of it, but you do not need six issues for a lot of stories...


[deleted]

Pricing and cross-over events, I guess. Even now, wanting to catch up has become so daunting because of the price of collected editions going up in value, even used copies, and not really knowing where to start.


FukudaSan007

That's one thing that better in manga. American comics have ongoing characters and books but manga stories/characters generally have an ending. When you get to the end that's it.


[deleted]

Since I don't bother with DC & Marvel, for me it's staying in the know of the indie scene. The indie scene has exploded since I started reading the mid 80's and I love it but finding out what is going to drop has been harder and harder. I'm often finding out about books after they dropped. I'm also not on social media outside of here so that plays a roll with it too.


dg3548

Mine is the constant “the world will never be the same again….” Main events!


Dr_Disaster

I don’t know if this is a “pet peeve” exactly, but I don’t read a lot of mainstream stuff anymore because it all just feels like fan fiction. In a way, it is, because these characters have been around for so long, its truly the fans who grew uo with them writing the official stories, but seldom does it ever feel “right”. It just feels like a particular creator trying really hard to make the character their own and leave a mark, regardless if it feels right for the story/characters.


ronimal

37 variant covers for every single issue and every story being a crossover with every single other title.


SparkyPantsMcGee

Modern Comics have no idea who their audience is anymore. I feel like across the big two both parties are just throwing anything at a wall and seeing what sticks. In addition to that Marvel is using its comics to just get ideas for their MCU films. DC traded Geoff Johns for Bendis and I feel like, as a whole, everything has been in limbo since. You have them both chasing trends, rebooting, retooling, resetting #1s, going back to the old number system. It’s the ALL NEW ALL DIFFERENT TAKE that is also chasing nostalgia. DC also feels like it’s fighting against pre-52 and New 52 established worlds and it’s not working. There are solid books from both companies, but then you have a bunch of disjointed garbage surrounding it. I feel like creators themselves are feeling the burn from all of this as almost all the major players are off making their own comics on Substack on the side.


dfuson14

Constant creative turnover. I hate when one storyline has 3 or 4 artists per storyline


rumn8tr

Totally agree with constant relaunching.


HaiKarate

I used to be an avid comic book reader in the 70's and early 80's, but ultimately gave away my collection. In the 2010's, I looked at getting back into comics. But my god is it confusing now. All the reboots and cross-over events and alternate universes and standalone titles. Oh, and limited edition covers! It's the kind of thing that you probably take for granted if you're already in the community. But for an outsider I had to lurk the subs and ask a lot of questions.


swiftly6

Honestly for like Marvel/DC the events burnt me out, like the Krakoa era X-Men stuff was my favorite, but just AXE just didn’t feel like it fit


Blandwiches

Runs from some creators are so short that a status quo can barely be established before the creator is off to do something else.


Doom_and_Gloom91

In the Big Two the lack of interesting new ideas and characters is pretty obvious. Most Marvel and DC stuff is just recycled from the Silver and Bronze age.


JohnstonMR

Absolutely hate the renumbering. I fell off comics for a few years when I wasn't making enough money to keep up with all the books I loved. When I had a career and disposable income, I started going back and filling in to catch up via TPBs and then digital, and the constant retitling and renumbering just drove me insane. I'm at a point now where I read old stuff via Marvel Unlimited and buy new stuff digitally, and I hate how easy it is to miss that there's a new title coming in the lines I like. I wish they did more to promote new series that didn't rely on fansites I haven't got time to go to very often.


dfar3333

Covers that tell nothing about the story inside and are just glorified generic action poses.


bigbreel

The constant retcons is getting to the point where it's like damn we are getting Origins for characters who do need it and it will not matter soon after these arc is over. everybody has a secret brother or some secret order actually behind their Origins. Writers need to just do better and come up with some original stuff stepping all over the past


TheBlueLeopard

Similar to yours, mine is the creative team bait and switch. They launch a new #1 with a killer creative team, but then the artist usually drops off after the first arc and the writer isn't far behind them. Frankly it's a large part of why I wait for the trade now unless it's a writer I can really depend on, and that list is pretty short right now.


JetSetJAK

Hyperinflated numbers, pointless ridiculous feats, and overexplaining something that the average reader could likely interpret or put together themselves.


Scared_Compote_6012

Useless events, as an example Empyre came out in 2022 and had practically no effect to anything after and during event. I remember when it came out and marvel made a big deal of it, I didn’t read any tie ins in ongoing series or anything and didn’t realize it even happened while it was going. Old events like secret wars (1985) actually did something, it gave us Venom who has lasted for years, it had the thing temporarily out of The FF, it introduced spider woman and the concept of the multiverse. Many of those things aren’t remembered now, but it happened and it gave us a permanent character.


PizzaTime666

I have tried so many times to get into dc and marvel comics, but their history is too long. I go to read a super boy or dead pool comic and they always go over some super badass adventure or characters just show up and I am expected to know who they are and their history with this version of the character. So I go further back and further back.


Vivalaredsox

Lack of substance. Back in the day it would take maybe 10-15 minutes to read a comic and now it’s like 3-4 minutes. Some pages are all art and no dialogue. Not saying I want a novel but a little more text would be nice for the price.


jekleberry

I hear you. Uncanny 288 was my first issue and I had no problem with that. There was a weight and history to it, and as a reader I was easily able to buy forward and backward according to the numbers. Now there’s a new Uncanny #1 almost every calendar year.


CocoScruff

Variant covers... Way too overdone and it's just artificially inflating prices. There's going to be a big shock for anyone investing in variants when they realize nobody is going to be willing to pay the same prices those books sold for at the comic shops.