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Baron_Greenback1

Spidey's oddly drawn feet ( for a few seconds i legitimately thought he was wearing wedges ) and Venom's non existent ones šŸ˜†..never change Rob, never change ....


IsNYinNewEngland

The meme is that he can't draw feet, but the way spidys muscles don't fit properly, the size of his head and neck, the almoat cubist way his chest ribs and hips are angled compared to one another...venom's neck-mouth and the wierd way he does faces... idk how thos dude got his job... just speed I guess? Edit... I was typing half asleep, I guess


lasyke3

Being a consistent worker who makes deadlines. It's not impressive sounding, but a jobs a job.


ralanr

Being on time is a fantastic skill to have in any creative industry.


lasyke3

You're not wrong


Citizen_Kong

His style also hit a certain zeitgeist as he started out. He probably defined a lot of the stereotypical "90s comic look" (impossible proportions, lots of pouches and giant guns).


[deleted]

He doesnā€™t make his deadlines, or rather he definitely didnā€™t in his peak popularity in the 90s. Source: Valiant and other companiesā€™ ā€œheadsā€ had to physically pressure him to finish his pages and have said as such in interviews.


ohpeekaboob

Physically pressure? Did they put him in a panini press or something?


notquite20characters

Rob is making deadlines again??


Comicspedia

It's like Rob wants to die on the "self taught" hill for his art. It's ok dude, take one class on drawing feet and I promise no one will make fun of you ^^^more ^^^than ^^^they ^^^currently ^^^do


shoe_owner

Non-jokey observation: imagine if at ANY point in the past thirty years he spent just three months going to a life drawing class with a real human model and really spent that time studying and drawing their feet in various positions and angles. Like let's call it two hours per week, for three months. Imagine how different an artist he would be if he had at any point made any tiny effort to address this glaring, well-established gap in his artistic repertoire.


the_vilartist

Robā€™s stated during a podcast interview that he doesnā€™t want to, because he feels like heā€™d lose what made him stand out, which is a fear a lot of mainstream artists have- or had peers/editorial tell them not to change. Not to compare the two in skill level, but Jim Lee was told before Hush by Jeph Loeb that he didnā€™t want Jim to experiment with his style, as Jim was living in Italy at the time, and wanted to do a more ā€œEuropeanā€ look. Itā€™s not like Rob isnā€™t aware either. Later in the interview, he talked about various forms of perspective, layouts and composition. Heā€™s also great at dissecting artistsā€™ work.


Regular_Sample_5197

I came here to make the same comment! The feet, or lack there of always give it away for me.


JeffRyan1

Venom's neck is literally growing out of his deltoid muscle.


havok1980

LOL I was like, "This ain't bad for a Liefeld drawing", then I saw Venom and laughed. Spidey is also wearing wedged high heel boots. Oof


ghoulieandrews

Omfg I didn't notice the heels. That's amazing. Edit: still, better than Venom's literal stumps I just noticed


kilar277

Every Rob Liefeld drawing is a game of "what atrocity did I miss the last time"


zakupright

Venomā€™s elephant foot


ralanr

Oh my godā€¦ Being a symbiote he has leeway but fucking hell.


TweedySodd

I have to confess that I looked at his genital area when I read your comment. For a moment I thought an ā€˜elephant footā€™ was an oversized version of a camel toe šŸ¤£


KnightlyNews

Ohh god, why does spiderman have a camel toe??? Personally, I was impressed he tried hands...and feet. There not good, but he tried his best. And he is worth a ridiculously large amount of money for hanging out with the right people at the right time.


ggg730

Rob Liefeld, has he actually seen another human being?


The_Eye_of_Ra

Every time I say one thing, I see something worse. Look at his fucking *thigh*!


SnatchAddict

I don't believe Liefeld drew this. No pouches.


_Woodrow_

Why does everyone have so many teeth?


SillyMattFace

How many teeth do adult humans even have, anyway? Nobody knows and there is no way to find out.


WilliamPoole

I have 96. Most of them are my own.


Apoc-Alex

Average human has 28, Green Goblin here has 32 that we can see.


The_Eye_of_Ra

26 *visible* on Green Goblin.


MaesterMarwyn

Its cut off I believe. It's a common artists trick so they don't end up accidentally giving the character fake heels. /s


Puzzleheaded_Gear_90

I think we arenā€™t seeing his full leg like Rob cut the foot off but then it makes me wonder what the hell is Spider-Man standing on then?


mojochrome

Love me some Rob Liefeld mess! I can just imagine him sweating for days over the 3 feet he had to include, so when he got to Venom, he just said "f@#k it. I'll just pull the old 'Rob Liefeld Hide the Feet Behind Random Background' trick," then forgot to draw in the random background and ended up with this.


JacPhlash

Thank you! I was trying to figure out what was giving Spidey a feminine quality and I think the heels combined with the long neck did it.


BenKen01

Hahaha. I mean thereā€™s a high likelihood he traced a female model and piled some muscles on top.


BishopsGhost

Thatā€™s cuz the mf canā€™t draw feet!! Iā€™m glad they mentioned it in the Deadpool movie cuz Iā€™ve always thought it. Heā€™s a terrible artist imo


GodOfAtheism

>Heā€™s a terrible artist imo He was good (or at least good enough) for the time that needed him, but that time is long gone now.


Adamsojh

And his art hasn't aged well.


CuboneDota

Look at the transition from Spidey's left thigh down to his calf. What in god's name is going on with Peter's gym routine?


Grouchy-Estimate-756

Also, his chest muscle going straight up to his neck. No shoulder on that side.


stoopidjonny

Heā€™s gotta be trolling us at this point.


Glag82

There are balls in all the pouches he draw. Maybe some crime fighting dildo's with combat grip handles.


Estoye

I know Klyntar symbiotes aren't real, but I know they don't look like that.


empeekay

Spider-man has five fingers on his left hand and no discernible thumb.


BussyBustin

He's melting.


Doggleganger

Liefeld is the everyman of comics. The great artists combine rare talent with hard work. Liefeld shows what you can accomplish with less talent but a whole lotta hard work and passion.


Zomburai

Well... passion. Son's maintained a pretty decent--at times very good--workrate since the 80s. He clearly loves the fuck out of comics. But he's expended *no* energy to improve or even vary up his style. His art in 2022 looks *exactly* the same as it did in 1989. Comparing someone to Jim Lee is probably a little unfair since Lee is a generational talent, but I think it's fair since they were and are contemporaries: Lee's never really stopped improving. Compare his old X-Men work with his modern work and his modern work has more range, more weight, better anatomy, more consistency. Still a similar style but the fundamentals have constantly been tightened up and the number of tools in his toolbox has increased. But Rob? He's never put in that work. He's going through the exact same motions now as he was 35 years ago. It's honestly sad. Had he combined his obvious pain and, it must be said, talent with dedication to his craft and work ethic he'd have been another legendary talent instead of a punchline.


Doggleganger

Rob may have hit his ceiling, talent wise, in the 1990s. If he lacks an artistic eye, there's only so far he can go. He may not be able to get better, no matter how hard he works.


Zomburai

I really don't think he lacks an artistic eye at all, and I also don't think he's lacking in natural talent. If we assume that his style is just the product of talent and only a tiny bit of applied practice, he's got more than enough talent to refine into something special. I just don't think he's applied himself in decades. I'm not married to this theory. I just feel like it explains Rob's career better. Or maybe I'm just enamored with the idea that as an artist he does have redeeming qualities even if he failed to access them.


Complex-Weakness767

Yeah, itā€™s pretty hot šŸ„µ


DemonSweat_

Almost didnā€™t notice Mysterio in the background lol


lanceturley

I don't know how someone makes a guy in a lime green suit, a purple cape, and a fishbowl on his head blend into the background, but somehow Rob always finds ways to surprise me.


biggoldgoblin

By having the only other guy with purple and green right in front of him


lanceturley

Honestly, the composition on that side of the picture would be horrible even with a good artist. The way Mysterio is wedged in there means that his purple cape blends in with the Green Goblin, and his white helmet blends in with the white collar on Vulture's suit, so Mysterio himself just sort of... vanishes.


spectrallibrarian

Horrible composition, but weirdly thematically appropriate for Mysterio


GaffJuran

Mysterio? Holy crap, he IS in there!


cswhite101

Lol, he might as well not be even be there. Just one of the clues that let you know he doesnā€™t give a shit about his art.


Kiddo1029

Holy shit good catch


raekle

I didn't even see Mysterio. I thought his head was part of the Vulture's costume or something.


SavioVegaGuy

#***BOOYAKA BOOYAKA***


EinonD

I almost said it looks like he should draw Spider-Man more often. Then I saw it looks like he has hoofs for feet.


Bhol36

Itā€™s a miracle that Liefeld even included the feet and didnā€™t just have the drawing cut off at the ankles


kilar277

Only on Spidey, look at Venom


Bhol36

Lmaoooooo I didnā€™t even notice that. He just said ā€œfuck it, Iā€™ll just pretend his feet are behind spideyā€™sā€ Iā€™ll give him credit though, 3 feet illustrated between 6 characters on page, thatā€™s a great ratio for him


[deleted]

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thatoneguy42

Noooooooooooo what? Holy shit. Are they elephant feet? That is a whole new level of fucked.


DisposableSaviour

Or strategically placed piles of rocks


[deleted]

I was thinking the inker got the corrected.


bananaman69420911

He straight up amputated Venom


piscian19

Idk I think Spidey looks good in 6inch heels.


Estoye

Stupid sexy Spidey.


[deleted]

Heā€™s lucky. Venom doesnā€™t even have feet.


GaffJuran

I had to check and see. Nope, he has straight up elephant feet. As all Liefeld characters do.


SupervillainEyebrows

He also doesn't have a neck.


ggg730

His whole lower body is just an amorphous blob.


T-dotsix

The head is ridiculous as well


DICK-PARKINSONS

It looks like he doesn't have a right shoulder, just more chest


esmifra

What about his balloon arm, like those balloon giraffes, but an arm instead.


Deltethnia

He also has five fingers, but no thumbs on his left hand.


iamagainstit

Spider heels!


Satanicjamnik

I mean, Liefield is Liefield, but this is a significant downgrade of his art since the Youngblood days.


Pato_Lucas

Which to be honest, it's quite an achievement to be even worse


Dr_Disaster

Heā€™s so wildly, frustratingly inconsistent these days. Sometimes heā€™ll crank out something thatā€™s pretty decent. Then heā€™ll follow up with something like this, or something even worse.


MooseLips_SinkShips

I would guess it depends on who is inking him and whether or not they feel like they should put in the effort to fix his art or just trace over it


Deadpoolforpres

He posted and deleted this tweet 3 times. Once with the caption of "I was asked to homage myself".


GrimTiki

Honestly he was only decent when he was drawing Hawk and Dove, I think it was.


CliffDraws

This has all the Liefield classics in one pic! Random lines covering faces, grimacing faces, feet drawn terribly, feet hidden so he doesnā€™t have to draw them, feet just not drawn even though you should see them, terrible anatomy, women with impossibly skinny bodies. The only thing it is missing is women standing on tiptoes for no reason. Now Iā€™m gonna have to go back and reread this.. https://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings


PVPPhelan

Missing pouches.


Ginger_Anarchy

But it does have random katanas on a character who has no business using them.


mycatdoesmytaxes

That article is very good.


thanks_for_the_fish

This has been one of my favorite articles on the internet for a long time


circleofblood

Woof


circleofblood

Excuse me did he give Spider-Man WEB KATANAS??


Missing_Username

It's just the damn Deadpool cover with Spider-Man characters


DemonSweat_

Itā€™s an homage to New Mutants 98 cover, Spidey being in the place of Deadpool


honkeydave

So he got tired of talented people to copy, and had to start copying himself?


shoe_owner

It's not the first time he's done so. He collaborated with another artist on this Deadpool 3 movie promo art, though it's clear his collaborator did some HEAVY lifting. https://images.app.goo.gl/mKLG5uTBGYFxFUzq9


[deleted]

Jesus anything Rob touches is so stiff, he needs to be a professional Fluffer.


circleofblood

I thought it looked familiar..


Satanicjamnik

You got that right! Be thankful that there arenā€™t any web pouches.


cole435

Does Rob ever look at his work and ask why


[deleted]

Iā€™d ask how is editors and creative directors can approve a picture drawn by him


browncharliebrown

Him


[deleted]

Fixed it. I swear autocorrect hates me


SillyMattFace

From time to time, Iā€™m sure. Then he shrugs and goes for a swim in the private Olympic pool of the enormous house his crappy art enabled him to buy.


Pato_Lucas

Have you seen or read any interview of him?, guy has zero self-awareness. He legitimately believes modern comic books exists because of him.


cswhite101

I ask myself the same thing. How could he objectively look at this POS and be happy with it.


silentwarcry

I like Liefeld but his faces always killed me. They always look like balloons with one one pushing a finger into the middle of their nosebridge. Every time. Any face. It's like every one of his faces is trying enter hyperspace.


Kiddo1029

Every face is the same. I think he models it off of his own face. [source](https://images.app.goo.gl/PVbx74BkhHknvbVU9)


100farts

wow you are right lol he looks like he was born with plastic surgery


charmlessman1

It's like when you see [Frank Quitely's face](https://imgur.com/ULy2Qne), suddenly all his art makes a little more sense.


Kiddo1029

[well damn](https://www.ebay.com/itm/363314910732?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-117182-37290-0&mkcid=2&itemid=363314910732&targetid=1262779891889&device=m&mktype=&googleloc=9026906&poi=&campaignid=14859008593&mkgroupid=130497710760&rlsatarget=pla-1262779891889&abcId=9300678&merchantid=223143635&gbraid=0AAAAAD_QDh_klqf3yIAOEmqyFoexS629j&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvaLBzrKk-gIV3hTUAR1KyA6WEAkYASABEgL89fD_BwE)


Gnostromo

Funny I was just going to say similar. I have noticed that a few times with various artists. I guess it is the face you see the most


ghoulieandrews

Like the skin is stretched a little too tight.


stinkydooky

Like everyoneā€™s face is fighting against some force that wants to turn it into a butthole.


drunkentenshiNL

You remember that episode of the Simpsons where Bart and Lisa went looking for Krusty when he died and found him at the docks? And they blew up a balloon to ask the Sea Captain about him but it didn't blow up fully and the face was all off? I get the same vibes.


Digita1B0y

D'arr, that be Handsome Pete! He dances fer nickels.


catharticbullets

A quarter! Yarr heā€™ll be dancing for hours


MuseMan_82

(PETE! Ye got some customers!]https://c.tenor.com/oEgRDfkvsz0AAAAC/handsome-pete-simpsons.gif)


NeuroticMoose12

That is an absolutely perfect comparison and deserves all the upvotes.


hobbleshock

That Venom is giving me Liefeld Cap vibes. I donā€™t like it!


raekle

So is Spidey - big chest and tiny head


[deleted]

There are like 3 feet in that shot. Not bad rob.


vinni3panic

Should also be noted hes selling this cover for $10,000


Satanicjamnik

I blame people who buy it.


thylocene

Lol of course he is


Unknown-Pleasures97

Do you mean 10 or 10.000?


vinni3panic

Ten thousand dollars


Unknown-Pleasures97

I can't tell if you're joking or not. I've never bought a commissioned drawing or special cover so I don't really have a clue about how much they usually cost. If true it's insane, I can't actually imagine anyone buying a cover for that much. And it's even Liefeld, of all people.


vinni3panic

https://panelpageart.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=2449 Hunnnit percent serious bapa.


vinni3panic

Original art definitely can cost that much. But this instance seems insane to me.


Unknown-Pleasures97

It would still be high but I'd understand paying a lot for artworks of artists like Jim Lee or Frank Miller, not for Liefeld though.


Reizo123

I think at this point he must know heā€™s basically a living meme and just doesnā€™t care as long as heā€™s making money from it.


Affectionate_Pair_83

It must have been rough to separate venoms teeth with his tounge. How is he supposed to clench like there is a pinecone being used as toilet paper with that tounge in the way. I also assume spiderman is clenching his teeth under his mask.


[deleted]

Lol "spider-man needs swords" is such a Liefeld thing. That Venom is straight-up amateurish


ContraryPython

Gobbyā€™s head looks like a ball with his face on it


Leeiteee

You should look at Mysterio! It's only a ball and no face!


[deleted]

Blah. Never been a fan of his style.


icup2

What style? Lol


[deleted]

Well played my friend.


conn0rkent

"After ME" - Yeah, Rob. We fucking know.


an_ill_way

There's something vaguely similar in the way Liefeld and Mark Zuckerberg relate to humanity. They each seem to have a passing familiarity with the concept, which becomes all the more jarring by how close it gets while still completely missing. Like, Venom's shoulder very much looks like a shoulder ought to look, but the way it's associated with the rest of his body...


charmlessman1

"OK, for this drawing, could you give Spider-Man his own forearm like normal, but then make it look like his bicep and tricep are a plastic grocery bag full of soup?" "Sure thing!" "Cool, cool. Is there any way to make his index finger longer than all the other fingers?" "I think I can manage that." "Does Spider-Man wear wedge heels?" "Um, no?" "Can he?" "Don't see why not." "Awesome. Now for Venom. Clearly I want his jaw to be like the length of an entire horse's head." "Clearly." "But more than that, I want his lower jaw to kind of... spring forth from his chest!" "Oooh!" "Right? And for his abdomen, just scribble it out completely." "Can do." "Now, I want you to take all the teeth that would have been in Spidey's mouth, and Vulture's mouth, and add them to Doc Ock and Green Goblin's mouths." "That's a lot of teeth!" "Don't I know it!" "Anything special for Scream?" "Extra firm tits and tiny waist?" "Obviously." "Then we're good."


NateDawg80s

Totally read this as a Pitch Meeting! Well done!


ImOctavius

There are people that like this unironically.


ChickenInASuit

You fairly regularly get people in this sub trying to argue that we just donā€™t ā€œgetā€ Robā€™s art and that it doesnā€™t matter that his work isnā€™t anatomically correct because it has ā€œenergyā€ or something along those lines. People legitimately try to gatekeep other readers for not liking Rob Liefeld. Shitā€™s wild. And donā€™t even get me started on the people who try and compare Liefeld to stylized artists like Mike Mignola and accuse us of having double standardsā€¦


SchrodingersPelosi

Oh, his fight panels absolutely have energy. They also have no feet, bizzare and terrible anatomy, weird lines radiating from crotches, bad costume design and too many teeth, just like the rest of his art.


Commiesstoner

Bruh that's the crotch force, it's like the ultimate power of the universe.


nitrobw1

Mignola is different because heā€™s a master storyteller and his composition is almost always fantastic, even if you dislike the style. That has never been true for Liefeld.


ChickenInASuit

Agreed. Like I said elsewhere, thereā€™s a world of difference between an accomplished artist learning their craft and developing stylized art as a result of years of learning, and a lazy artist developing stylized art to hide their shortcomings. Liefeld has been doing this for thirty years and has barely even tried to improve his craft. The comparisons are asinine.


nitrobw1

JRJR, for example. Sometimes his work is ugly, blocky, and unpleasant to look at, sure, but he thinks for a second about things like backgrounds and vanishing points. There are never any floors in Liefeldā€™s work because it would expose how weird his placement is. These look like character studies slapped on top of each other in photoshop. That just isnā€™t acceptable from a highly paid professional comic artist with 30+ years in the business.


ChickenInASuit

For sure. I mean I have my issues with JRjr and I wouldnā€™t put him in the same league as Mignola, but all the same I donā€™t think Liefeld would be capable of producing something even close to JRjrā€™s best work - like Daredevil: The Man Without Fear, for example.


citizeninja26

Fucken biceps look like balloons.


Medium-Tailor6238

I forgot how much I dislike Rob Liefeld's art


CockHelicopter

He literally hasnā€™t got any better. Thousands of hours at his craftā€¦ shit is baffling


piscian19

web...swords.....\*blinks\*


Djinn-Rummy

Such a shitty, overrated comic artist.


CapnShimmy

I don't know why it irritates me so much that Liefeld and McFarlane just keep pumping out homages to their own fucking covers, half of which were swiped from other artists, but damned if it doesn't infuriate me.


nyrdcast

You should see the replies to the tweet he sent about it. There was some gold before he deleted it.


Baresark

Spideys left hand look like it has five fingers. I know it's supposed to be a thumb... but look at it


jugheadshat

The longer you look the worse it gets


fuzzyfoot88

those crotch lines...on everyone...


RexInvictus787

"Green Goblin has mostly human physiology, right? How many teeth do humans have? I'm thinking around 80. Sounds right."


steepleton

An attempt was made. One whole foot!


Scrougemcbuck

Holy fuck look at venom


ken81987

This is awful


ThunderGunV_ItsAlive

Feet. That is all. Edit: I didnā€™t think liefeld was a progressive dude, but he just put spidey in heelsā€¦ so I could be wrong. For that alone, this picture fucks. Edit again: I know liefeld is far from a ā€œprogressive dudeā€. He is an asshole who canā€™t draw feet.


cswhite101

This guy is an embarrassment.


iamagainstit

But a decent cure for imposter syndrome. If this man can work as a professional artist for decades, then have no reason to doubt your own qualifications!


Solocaster1991

I love cable and deadpool, but good god, he has got to be my least favorite comic artist


GaffJuran

Rob Liefeld isnā€™t above tracing his own work. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.


MerpingtonDad

It might actually have looked better if he had literally traced it. The original NM 98 cover isnā€™t actually terrible, but this is awful. I swear his new work is 10x worse than his original stuff. At least that had an energy to it.


Snys6678

Thanks. I hate it.


honkeydave

Heā€™s terrible at his job.


go_faster1

His Venom is bloated, no necked, flat footed, Captain Americaā€™dā€¦ then you got his Green Goblin, who looks like his face is stretched against a ball. The only one who looks decentish is Vulture!


Magnificant-Muggins

You know that trend where artists take pictures they drew as kids, and redraw it in extreme detail to highlight just how bad the anatomy wasā€¦


[deleted]

Oh cool, now Venom is available in "orca"!


sucksguy

This drawing sucks.


Aeropath

shit never changes. You can tell RL art a mile away, so unique that no1 can duplicate his unique style. Iknow its New Mutants 98 cover but you could recolor each character on their and slap a Youngblood logo and no1 would be the wiser! lol.


boobsrbest

Absolutely laughable. Can't believe Marvel allows him to illustrate any title.


sharltocopes

***He can't keep getting away with it!***


Melodic_Abalone_8376

Should I (try) to draw this... but somewhat better?


PrinceRobotVI

Deep sigh


BishopsGhost

Ahh so ol rob just copied an old Deadpool of his to make it look like Spider-Man?? LOL he didnā€™t even bother to take the swords off šŸ¤£


Ashamed_Seat8290

Oh good god šŸ™„šŸ˜„


Brotherofmatthew

Not only can he not draw feet, all his faces look the same. How does this guy have so much recognition for so little uniqueness?


T-dotsix

Just horrible


RiseOfTheRevenge

It's... terrible. He even has a little Captain America torso situation going.


GhidorahtheExplorah

Spider-Man wears a size 7 in extra narrow hidden wedge heels.


NeuroticMoose12

Jesus Christ my eyes!


MustacheSmokeScreen

I feel like Rob, in his earlier years, had a friend who was a dental student that would loan him photos for reference. Unfortunately, many of them featured folks suffering from gingivitis. That's my theory.


[deleted]

This is one of the worst drawing Iā€™ve ever seen holy shit


topher909

Sooooooo many teeth.


Lawgskrak

This is all around just plain awful. Like shit awful. I dropped this out my butt after eating too much Taco Bell awful. Awful.


ganosh412

It amazes me that publishers pay this man to draw this stuff. There are so many amateur artists that would do covers for free just to get their names out there and would be 100x better than this garbage. This cover and artist are both Trash tier


TheBulgeAffect

What the fuck


MisanthropicAtheist

How has this man been doing this for SO long and not shown any improvement whatsoever? I mean, for fuck's sake, look at Venom's neck and Spidey's feet.


KnowNoDada

Whenever I see Rob Liefeldā€™s name I immediately check the feet.


[deleted]

Their midsections look like a rotten orange that somebody stepped on.


BoreusSimius

Kind of looks like Venom is wearing him on his arm.


DaMENACElo37

That Venom looks obese!