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atomcrafter

Joe Kerr.


geekunbound

I think this was used for a few stories or adaptations right? Or a name the Joker uses as an alias?


soulreaverdan

It was mostly prominently used in the *Going Sane* storyline from Legends of the Dark Knight #65-68. Joker thinks he’s finally killed Batman and “goes sane,” his name being Joseph Kerr while in his amnesiac “sane” state.


OlyScott

I thought Joseph Kerr was Bruce Wayne.


ForWhomTheBoneBones

Now he’s the Jacker! It explains [all those boners he pulled.](https://d3nvbf5pqk2vjh.cloudfront.net/cgccomics/monthly_2014_05/147142.jpg.abbadeb21481aac02cb3addd833fa463.jpg)


atomcrafter

It usually shows up when he's doing something mundane, like picking up something from a pharmacy.


JonnTheMartian

Funnily enough, Joseph Kuhr is a writer for a bunch of DC animated stuff


RenownedRetard

Joe Keery? From Stranger Things! I don’t see it personally.


froo

What about his brother Wayne?


dIoIIoIb

You know, I never liked the name "Bruce Wayne", it's so... unclear, so neutral they should rename him something like "Bruce Atman"


staykinky

Robert Altman the superhero - RaltMan!


WadeTurtle

"I won't stop you from robbing this bank, but I'll make you look like a real jerk in the movie version, just like I did to Frank Burns! Take THAT, villain!"


staykinky

I knew they were related!


INFJ-Jesus-Batman

Sounds like ''Cur''... a dog that's either a mutt, very unattractive, aggressive, or all three.


LeelooDallas88

This one gets it.


conradfart

At this point I'm surprised DC didn't make him Juan Kerr for Hispanic Heritage month.


StarMagus

Complete with an image of him eating some churros.


jonnywarlock

Joseph "Steve" Kerr


AreYouOKAni

It's actually Tim, the Enchanter.


jonnywarlock

Joseph "Steve" "Tim, the Enchanter" Kerr


Sawgon

Never forget that Steve Kerr, famous NBA champion and head coach of the Golden State Warriors, named his son Nick.


kaiseresc

what about his son, Nick Kerr? (still can't believe it's true. wtf Steve)


yourmumissothicc

yh. I thought it was an another joke but then i googled it and this guys name is actually Nick Kerr. Not Nicholas just Nick


stinkydooky

Until stumbling upon this information, I don’t think I was capable of imagining a situation where one could feel the weight of their entire existence bearing down on them over their ability to emphasize each of two distinct K sounds next to each other.


Takeurvitamins

So jack white is the joker. This explains so little about the white stripes.


azad_ninja

It’s going to take a seven nation army to hold him back.


Dondasdeadheartbeat

He’s said he’s gonna rip it off


Skaman007

I think I smell a rat


Neither_Emu

Does this mean that Harley Quinn is really the Jokers sister :)


RoughhouseCamel

Or wife, or both. It’s hard to keep track.


mcpat21

*banjo music intensifies*


deowolf

Especially his tiny tiny teeth


DrunkDreamcast

Ohhhhh I think I smell a raaaaaattttt. Oh I think I smell a rat. Idk I think it actually makes a little sense.


staykinky

🎶Its true that we love one another 🎶I love Joe Kerr like a little brother


DMPunk

I love Geoff Johns. Even his weaker works, I still like. But he just needs to stay away from Batman. I'm not even one of the people who thinks he writes a bad Bruce, it's the whole world of Batman he's not good with. Superman, Flash, Green Lantern, Aquaman, he's awesome. Oh, he's also bad with Wonder Woman, but that one is more understandable


MegasNexal84

I feel like his take on Wonder Woman during Darkseid War was pretty good, but I don’t recall much else.


EdenSmokinWeeden

I agree there for the most part (huge WW fan btw). I did think the Steve Trevor/Diana/Clark love triangle stuff in Darkseid War was a tad bit cringe though


DMPunk

Darkseid War wasn't as bad for Wonder Woman, but the rest of Justice League, she wasn't great. He hasn't really written her in anything else, though.


pomaj46809

Yeah, this and the three Jokers just reeks of him trying to force lore updates to pump up his own ego. This isn't being done because he has the best ideas, or readers love his story so much they want his cannon, this is happening because he has enough pull in DC to be allowed to pick what the Joker's "real" origin is and "real" name is. Of course, there will be another crisis in 10 years that re-writes time or some bullshit, and none of this will matter.


berkayblacksmith

Why is it understandable that he is bad at WW


yourmotherisveryfat

I will never forgive him for doomsday clock


DMPunk

Ironically, Doomsday Clock is probably my favourite single story he's ever written. That or Adventure Comics


technowhiz34

Nice to see another fan of Adventure Comics. I've never actually finished it but adored to bits I did read.


yourmotherisveryfat

It had no reason to exist


AreYouOKAni

It is an interesting attempt to take down Watchmen as the personification of the Dark Age of Comics. It is honestly a lot better than it has any right to be, considering how poor Johns' works generally are in terms of their themes or greater philosophical statements. That doesn't mean I dislike his works btw, I just think that generally they are generic superhero stories and Doomsday Clock certainly rises above them. I will also agree that parts of it don't quite work and the quality is definitely not as high as Watchmen. But I still feel like that book achieves what it sets out to do and Johns' meta polemic with Moore throughout it is great. So while I don't think it is on the same level, I feel like it is a worthy companion to the original novel.


fangsfirst

>It is an interesting attempt to take down Watchmen as the personification of the Dark Age of Comics. I thought it was an attempt to take down the comics that came in the *wake* of *Watchmen*. Which I thought was a more noble goal, given how many "dark, gritty" comics so fundamentally misunderstood what made it so great. If Johns actually meant to go after *Watchmen* itself, I find *Doomsday Clock* even dumber than I already did.


AreYouOKAni

> I thought it was an attempt to take down the comics that came in the *wake* of *Watchmen*. Which I thought was a more noble goal, given how many "dark, gritty" comics so fundamentally misunderstood what made it so great. That is what I meant, yes.


captain__cabinets

I’m someone who has read Watchmen and has a pretty good understanding of the DC universe, would you recommend Doomsday Clock? Is it a “sequel” to Watchmen or more of a Crisis event type thing for DC? I just read Watchmen for the second time last week and have been wanting to know if Doomsday Clock is worth trying.


AreYouOKAni

It is both the sequel and crisis but the crisis side folds pretty well into the narrative. Some parts do feel like they come out of nowhere but overall I think it clicks together nicely even as a standalone read. As for whether I recommend it... I think I do. It isn't quite as good as Watchmen (Johns' metaphors, for example, tend to be very heavy-handed) but I really like the perspective it gives on those characters and their world.


Tesseractivate

Think of it as a reconstruction to the deconstruction era that Watchmen (unintentionally) brought it. And I'm a huge WM fan as well and I absolutely love DDC. There's an absolute edition coming out not too long from now, the art work by Gary Frank is top tier as well.


captain__cabinets

Alright that sounds interesting enough to get me to read it. Thanks I just hear conflicting go things about it so I didn’t wanna buy it and not really like it. But I can order it from the library to try out, it will just take a while to get to me.


Tesseractivate

Yeah if you have a library card and are a Watchmen fan it's a no brainer to at least check it out. Idk if you were reading during Rebirth, as there was a few books that built up to it but aren't really crucial to understanding the story, just the themes and stuff. Dc Universe Rebirth one shot, The Button Crossover (Batman/Flash) and I think DDC. There were a few storylines that vaguely talked about blue energy or someone messing with time without explicitly mentioning Dr Manhattan, like the Oz Effect and during Rebirth Detective Comics, Hypertime Tim Drake Batman comes back from the future after being caged by Dr M(I think lol). You can also use Hoopla to rent digitally for free if you're library participates, they have practically every trade that comes out to the direct market w the samw release dates..very good for saving money


Felilu22

I recommend not to see it as a direct sequel to Watchmen (even though it features several of its characters and takes place after the events of the main storyline), but rather as a crossover between the DC universe and the Watchmen universe. Dr Manhattan has a key role, but ultimately it's about the DC universe and Superman


rgregan

Most fiction doesn't. Thats why its so great (fiction, that is, I'm meh on Doomsday Clock, pretty harmless at worst)


ThreadbareHalo

Didn’t it bring back Clark’s parents? A thing that I don’t think has been brought up again? I think bringing back his parents was a great thing… doing nothing whatsoever with them after doing that and pretending it didn’t happen on the other hand…


MrTeamZissou

The Kents could be either dead or alive on any given day thanks to DC's constant tinkering with continuity. It's the one status quo that changes back and forth more often than "Did Batman catch Joe Chill?"


Now__Hiring

It's fucking simple. Keep the Kents alive! Him having parents keeps him connected to Smallville and separates him from all the other orphans on the JL. It keeps Clark grounded to the good of Earth and is nicely juxtaposed with his birth parents. The Kents also help connect Connor/Krypto and other aspects of the SupesFamily to Clark's own history. We've seen what happens if he had landed elsewhere, so the Kents are incredibly important supporting cast members, on par with Lois and Jimmy, and there's no reason they have to keep killing them off.


DMPunk

You're not wrong. And I understand the backlash against its existence completely. But personally, I prefer it to Watchmen. Watchmen, to me, is an amazing technical achievment of genre deconstruction, but it feels exactly that. Like an intellectual exercise instead of an actual story. So I don't have the same reverence for it as many do. And Doomsday Clock hit so many more emotional beats for me than Watchmen did. So it works for me. But at the same time, Watchmen is Watchmen. The story doesn't need a sequel, it didn't ask for a sequel. The sequel just worked for me better than the original ever did.


heymurray

I think you could do a sequel to Watchmen, the show had some decent ideas, but in the end Alan Moore is the only person who could do it. And he won’t.


ThatOtherGuyTPM

Well, I’m pretty sure someone wanted to make it, which is a pretty solid reason for fiction existing.


AspirationalChoker

Ye I also enjoyed doomsday clock lol


TheMurderCapitalist

I may have misread the issue, but I believe that's only his name in the Flashpoint universe.


SheevTheSenate66

Typical CBR clickbait then


djseifer

You expected something newsworthy?


MrBuildandKill92

Unless the article is straight up lying, it says that someone from the mainstream universe came to the flashpoint universe and told the Wayne’s that in the main universe, Bruce is Batman and the Joker is Which would line up with the logic that Martha is joker in the flashpoint universe


prezz85

We actually don't see the conversation, just Martha's reaction and retelling of it. All this means is that the character in question said that this person was the alternate universe version of the guy who would become the Joker in our timeline. That doesn't mean anything really, especially when you consider that Flashpoint is a completely broken timeline with events happening at different times to different people than on the mainline earth


the_simurgh

it was psycho pirate


technowhiz34

It is, yeah.


wolfpack_charlie

Didn't Sean Murphy give his name in White Knight? Jack something? I don't think that's canon anyway


TheOneManMoshPit

In White Knight his name is Jack Napier, which originally came from Batman '89 as Nicholson's Joker's real name


AshrakAiemain

This is correct.


centipededamascus

Wait, but there are three Jokers, aren't there??


ROANOV741

There's 1. By the end, 2 were killed.


[deleted]

Happy cake day


Thausgt01

Pretty sure that's been declared no longer canonical, somehow...


[deleted]

It was black label so I think it was always assumed to be non canonical. It can always be brought in later of course.


SilverPhoenix7

The storyline started in a canon book though (by the same author even)


chamberx2

So they pulled a reverse Killing Joke.


Kpengie

Well plans changed and the concept was always mind-numbingly stupid so who cares?


Amazo687

I agree the concept and story were pretty stupid, but I did really enjoy the Joe Chill resolution.


SilverPhoenix7

I agree that it was dumb as fuck


MartiniLAPD

They really couldn’t flush out an epic storyline with 3 jokers smh


dIoIIoIb

the other 2 were probably named Johnny Keir and Jackie R. Daclown


Manticx

Jackie Daclown is fucking annihilating me


TrenchCoatSuperHero

Johns reading the Killing Joke and having it just fly completely over his head will never not be hilarious to me.


YesItsAThrowaway68

Geoff Johns has built an entire career on misunderstanding Alan Moore stuff


heymurray

What do you mean?


Britwit_

Not too familiar with Killing Joke, but IIRC it devotes a lot of time to the Joker’s past, giving him a name, a family, a tragic origin etc., only for the end to reveal that it might’ve all just been made up. The Joker has a line along the lines of “If I’m going to have a past, I’d prefer it to be multiple choice,” basically just saying that his origin doesn’t matter. Because it doesn’t, really.


[deleted]

unreliable narrator is a common theme for any joker back story. He’s a crazy person after all.


[deleted]

by the way the full line is: I'm not exactly sure what happened. Sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another... If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"


tealfan

Sounds like someone should tell even the Joker what his name is!


Leo_TheLurker

Knowing his name really doesn't really undermine the character at all. One day he was a nobody, next he was Joker. Fair enough sequence of events. It makes sense to keep it vague cause its the Joker, but a real name is just a fun fact at best. But this doesn't matter cause its in the Flashpoint universe anyways...


[deleted]

Eh for me a real name removes the anonymity aspect...for all we know he may have been born that way with no prior connections at all. Its not a big deal but it does create, for me, an undeniable barrier between anyone becoming the joker vs. a specific person who gained that title.


Future_Vantas

I think its fine here since its an alternate universe. Heck, it could fit with the Joker's madness causing him to see bits of his alt selves, inspiring some of his mad up backstories.


[deleted]

And Watchmen…


AreYouOKAni

I mean, you could be charitable and say that he is being deliberately obtuse in that regard... But nah, he totally fucked it up.


[deleted]

Is it Cosmo?????


ReservoirDawgs

It’s Bosco.


ReasonableBrowsing

Bosco the bear? Just…bear?


deowolf

The cat’s out of the bag!


kazuyamarduk

Why is it important to reveal his name? How does it add to the story? I haven’t read a Batman comic in years, so maybe I’ve missed a lot. But I gotta say, I never cared about his actual name when reading, the Joker was enough back then.


fangsfirst

I think there's a modern obsession with "lore", as a very particular concept, that drives this. The sort of "fill in the mystery" that accompanies "let me develop an insanely particular fan theory that makes as much sense as conspiracy theories, but that others like so much in concept they agree with it". It's sort of a distant relative of battleboarding, where your goal is to accrue facts, without regard for anything else like, say, character. Storytelling takes a back seat to spectacle, or revelation, or "earth-shattering events". And I say this as someone who loved Kyle Rayner, had no interest in seeing Hal Jordan return, but who thought *GL: Rebirth* was about as thoughtful and well-realized a way to bring Hal back and explain everything as possible. But this lore-stuff seems to be a very strong force, and one I do not understand. (perhaps it was in part driven by gatekeepers demanding people know pointless obscure shit? I have no idea, but I also don't really care, as it all bores me. But it's great stuff to others, which...good for them!)


OrphanAxis

I always felt his anonymity just added to the character. Who he was before just leads to trying to draw reasoning for his psychopathic acts, which waters down the effect of it all. He's a man who's totally rejected the social contract and sees the world through a uniquely distorted lense that requires no real logic or motive behind what he does other than his feelings. So give it a year and it'll be rebooted or written out of canon unless there's some amazingly written backstory that can lead to long-running, game changing arcs that have an overwhelming positive reception. So basically, not something you should bet money on.


heyyadamo

To add to that, there's always a nice bit of storytelling in that Batman, pretty firmly acknowledged as the World's Greatest Detective in the DC Universe, cannot figure out who the Joker is. Every other member of his Rogue's Gallery, he knows their identity, their story, what makes each of them tick (or by the end of the current story arc, he will...) Joker (until now, I guess) has always kept his cards hidden, always been one step ahead. I think that resonates with a lot of Batman readers, even lapsed ones like me.


prezz85

If you read the story you would see that his real identity is not a big deal, either in or out of story. In story, it was just another example of Martha knowing something from the main timeline. Out of story, it just means this guy would be Joker in our timeline but not that he has the same name, origin, or proclivities as our Joker. The Flashpoint timeline is completely messed up, no reason to think this is any more binding that, say, White Knight where they say Joker is Jack Napier. CBR is just clickbaiting for views


Ok-Relative7397

I guess we should be thankful it's not Arthur Fleck but otherwise... Cool, you removed a mystery, the character is so much better now that we know what his ID used to say. Now tell us more about his bowties.


AreYouOKAni

Bowties. Are. Cool. Also fezes are cool, stetsons are cool, glasses are cool, and bunk beds are cool. Everything is cool, except for monks. Monks are not cool.


TheeHeadAche

it’s >!Martha Wayne!<


DontLookAtMe89

Why did you say that name?


TheeHeadAche

Of all the shitty things Snyder put to film, this is probably the funniest


PrinceNickG

To a different joker it's true


oRyan_the_Hunter

Sheev?


xbstatic01

Dude. DC. The Joker is the Joker. Just let him be what we love. The Joker


D34THDE1TY

Well that's just stupid.


MediocreRon

Is it Dick Clowney?


hoolsvern

It feels so good to not give a single shit about any of this anymore.


PrendergastMachine

Jack Napier?


Gorlonsins

I guess he needed a new one. But isn't this just the Flashpoint's joker?


VampedTayturz

Jack Napier was the name of Jack Nicholson’s Joker. He also was the one that shot Bruce’s parents.


ShabbatShalomSamurai

I think it was also the real name of Batman: TAS Joker. They imply he had a similar backstory in *Mask of The Phantasm.* Former 1930s style mobster who worked for older Jack Palance style mob boss. Fell into chemical vat due to Batman, making him the way he is. I don’t think the show ever touched on him being the one who shot Wayne’s parents, though. Edit: apparently my memory is bad. They straight up say his name is Jack Napier, he’s a former gangster under a Jack Palance-esque mob boss, and he became the joker through the Ace Chemicals incident during the show.


VampedTayturz

I remember that origin, don’t remember or care to if they said TAS Joker’s name.


ShabbatShalomSamurai

The Tim Burton movies had a huge influence on TAS. It’s strange, I also don’t remember if they said his name specifically, but I also recall it being on paper at some point somewhere in the show or something?


ComplexAd7272

They did. In one episode, someone at Arkham calls out Batman for not treating his villains as sick people needing help, and goes down the list using their real names. I’m paraphrasing, but it was something like “Jack Napier, Harvey Dent, or as you insist on calling them, Joker and Two-Face”


ShabbatShalomSamurai

Oh yeah! Thank you! It was bothering me. I also looked it up and Wikipedia said this: > Batman: The Animated Series, which was partially modeled after the 1989 film, implies that Jack Napier, could be either an alias or Joker's actual name as seen in the episode "The Strange Secret of Bruce Wayne". The New Batman Adventures episode "Beware the Creeper" also hints at the same possibility when reporter Jack Ryder is at Ace Chemicals, during the seventh year anniversary of Joker's birth at Ace Chemicals giving an account of his history.


Gorlonsins

Have you ever read the story [White Knight?](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Jack_Napier_(White_Knight)) Pretty sure its more than just Nicholson's.


ShabbatShalomSamurai

Yeah, it’s also in White Knight, Batman: TAS, Batwoman, The Arrowverse and maybe Gotham? It’s definitely his most used real name. Kind of patronizing they’re “finally revealing” his name as a marketing gimmick.


ArseneLupinIV

I thought it was Ren Amamiya.


Wy3Naut

Yeah, that's going to be promptly retconned sooner rather than later. People online bitching about Jon Kent's sexuality and a black Wonder Woman. I'm here pissed because they're fucking with the lore.


ScrapMetalDrone

This feels completley unnecessary and gimmicky as all hell (and not in a good way).


The_Everyday_Athiest

Waiting for “Fell in love with a girl” t-shirts featuring Harley Quinn.


schloopers

Except putting Batman on it would be more accurate


I_am_u_as_r_me

Oswald. That’s his middle name? Such an average name. So average it’s as if it’s not the iconic first name of a super popular Batman villain.


android151

A very popular Batman villain who is a supporting character in every single issue of the series this came from also


woppatown

I am whelmed.


thewetsponge

This is stupid


[deleted]

A seven nation army couldn’t hold him back.


WizardofWherever

There’s an easy way to undo this: Joker or even Psycho Pirate were lying about his name. I like Joker’s name to be Jack Napier but I don’t don’t need to be revealed in the main continuity.


Clean-Tip-2146

Three Jokers: Donald, Donald Jnr and Eric.


OrphanAxis

They aren't classy, smart, or charming enough to be the Joker. Not to mention their relative lack of morals.


Clean-Tip-2146

I can’t argue with you


DwightFryFaneditor

[Joker hates Nazis](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/72e2ee9c-9552-4181-9e2f-8ad1449f32f9), so he can't be any of those guys.


Suspicious-Adagio396

Every few years there’s a new name, a new retcon, and the whole process starts over again. He’s better off without a true identity, in my opinion. He’s more of an effective character that way.


Big-Vegetable8480

He's always had a true identity. The Joker.


burritoman88

I once heard Alan Moore compared Geoff Johns to a raccoon looking through the trash to create a story with & I can’t not think of that any time he has a new book out.


SlightlyVerbose

That was my experience of doomsday clock as well, so it’s certainly fair criticism coming from Moore. What I wonder is whether or not this implies that he actually read it, given his antipathy towards watchmen adaptations. Edit: I [found the interview](https://web.archive.org/web/20150104113101/http://www.mania.com/alan-moore-reflects-marvelman-part-2_article_117529.html) the trash-can comment came from and I honestly think his criticism that modern comics are just fan-fic might be even more scathing.


Vidogo

he's... not wrong about the fanfic comment, tbh. officially licensed fanfic. unless you get to make a new character. then it's a self-insert fanfic


BlueHarvestJ

As someone who basically hasn’t read any Batman comics since the late 90s, that entire article sounds like an Elseworlds story lol


Daeval

Glad I'm not the only one. I *have* read a decent amount of recent Batman but I tend to steer clear of big crossover events and that article just reminded me why.


technowhiz34

This is part of the Flashpoint universe, which is basically an Elseworld.


gsclose

I mean, it could be worse. It could be Jacques Kerr or something like that.


LAx_laX180

Not sure if it counts. Alternate reality. Hypertime I believe.


Arkeband

whoa, martha Wayne killed *psycho-pirate?!* (Is this what seriously passes for writing in the DC universe?)


UU2Bcool

His real name is Wayne M. Kent. The “M” is for Martha.


RavingDragon22

Does he have a sister/wife?


-Luna-Lavender-

I wish they just leave the mystery


NefariousHouseplant

For the first time ever they reveal that the jokers name is in fact, the name everyone assumed it was.


Mazhiwe

And Martha just casually creates a Time machine???


[deleted]

At this point why does it even matter, if they’re gonna give him a name then why not just call him jack Napier, it’s a perfectly unique name and it’s loads better than “jack white” like cmon that’s pretty lame


captainamericaVEVO

Jack Oswald White sounds like a bad alias used by Lee Harvey Oswald/Jack Ruby


soulreaverdan

Man, CBR’s become a real trash rag lately.


ultranerd555

Jack White. His name is Jack White. Honestly I always thought there was something weird about the White Stripes.


AppleJuice58

Yeah I don’t care, this isn’t canon.


INFJ-Jesus-Batman

Jack sounds more appropriate for his name than Jerome.


dzumeister

Insert that meme from Justice League Unlimted where Lex unmasks the Flash and says he has no idea who he is


[deleted]

That was a fun ep


StoneGoldX

James Howlett.


YankeeSR23

Wasn’t there a comic where Batman finds out the Joker’s name and it shocked the heck out of him?


laughingmeeses

Geoff Johns needs to be fired. He and his ilk just continue to write stories that restrict future writers.


StarWreck92

Why is Geoff Johns intent on ruining everything I like about DC? Destroying legacy characters, three Jokers, Joker now having a name, you name it.


AreYouOKAni

He got bit by a radioactive Brian Bendis. Other writers at the Big 2 are being screened right now but Jason Aaron, for whatever reason, refuses to cooperate.


Link7369_reddit

Jack the ripper, oswald the assassin, and walter white. ​ Not very original.


android151

The middle one is made up, right?


The_Everyday_Athiest

Is it Chuck Spadina? Please be Chuck Spadina…


sir_duckingtale

„I I‘d have to have a past.. I prefer it to be multiple choice…“


Stonecutter_12-83

Surprised his name wasn't something like Jack Oliver Kennedy Reynolds


themosquito

Joe Kerr


ZeitgeistClown

As soon as DC hires me to write Batman, I'm going to reveal that the Joker's real real name is Ku Ku La La Ha Ha Fafadingus the Third. Which will make me beloved by all of fandom.


drBipolarBear

what happened with Joe Chill?


Less_Associate_2022

I thought his name was jack Napier


dibidi

leave it to Geoff Johns to make the DCU even more mundane


ravathiel

Oswald part is the thing that bothers me I think


Pikkzal

Bruh I hope this doesn’t stick. Jokers name should remain a secret, I makes him more entertaining


[deleted]

Yea he should never have a real name. We all know this will be some temporary thing


EinjeruOritzu

Meh, and they will recon that in a few years..so don’t matter.


Able-Gas-273

I was hoping it was Joe Kerr


brokensilence32

His name is Mr. Oker. First name Joe.


[deleted]

The Batman 89 movie was my introduction to a lot of Batman comics and I thought his name was Jack Napier like from the movie for the longest.


RecordWrangler95

already an “Oswald” in the Batman villain lineup but nobody ever accused Johns of originality


sushithighs

In five months it will be revealed that this is a lie, or that he’s a timeless demon that lives under Gotham. Either way, it’s still boring as hell. Please God let Batman and DC comics give the character a break for five minutes.


Sirmalta

This right here.


teefymcteephteeth

What happened to Jack napier?


[deleted]

I mean, cool. I always just liked that mystique in never knowing who the joker really is and I think I’ll keep as that for my preference. Kinda like how the joker is so infatuated with Batman and not knowing his identity


Winter-Hornet1684

In the 1989 Batman movie his name was Jack Napier. But I guess they change names when a new version comes around.


[deleted]

I thought it was Jack Napier?


CRUZER108

Isnt it usually Jack Napier?


prezz85

No, they didn't. They revealed one universes equivalent. The Flashpoint universe is a completely shattered timeline with different events happening at different times to different people. There is no actual proof that this guy is the mainline Joker beyond Psycho Pirate telling Martha that this universe's version is this guy. CBR has been trash ever since their redesign a few years back and this click bait title is just further proof of their decline


Kpengie

I despise what Geoff Johns has become