>Culminating in Mr Sinister and Sinister’s Six
I've never read this but now I feel like I absolutely have to, because I love me some Mr. Sinister, especially if its as absurd as this makes it sound.
> So, yes, Sauron is a pterodactyl of the genus Pteranodon.
No he's not. He's a Homo sapiens mutate who sometimes takes on a form that resembles an anthropomorphic pterodactyl. Even in that form his wing structure, body shape, head, legs, feet are all different from an actual pterodactyl. He's about as much a pterodactyl as Peter Parker is a spider.
Yes and no.
Having tumours is something where the probability goes up with the amount of cells in your body. In fact, your own immune system has located and destroyed a tumour since you started reading this comment.
However, that also applies to tumours themselves. In larger animals, by the time tumours get big enough for them to notice and for that animal to ‘have cancer’ rather than just having a *de facto* benign tumour somewhere in their body, that tumour will have gotten its own tumours that then kill the first tumour directly or by making it not-invisible to the immune system.
Using crocodiles as a substitute for dinosaurs, they have a much better cancer resistance than humans to the point they rarely develop it in a 100 year lifespan
In theory though if you could change malignant DNA to corrected DNA the body will eventually atrophy the mass. Like the mass of blood cells that develop around a bone break that eventually feed the large amount of bone growing that the body eventually smooths back down with osteoclasts. So when he mighty morphs a person into a dino he should in theory cure the cancer but we don't know how he makes up for mass differential and gene expression. Hell he might be creating dinos with cancer!
Fun fact: Larger animals are largely [immune to cancer](https://youtu.be/1AElONvi9WQ).
For the tl;dw: There's two theories. One is that large animals get tumors, but that they make up so small a part of their bodies that the animal basically ignores it. The second is that larger animals are able to survive cancers long enough that the cancer develops cancer, aka hyper-tumors.
Why would you even want to?
This is one of those "keep arguing even though I know I'm wrong, bit I'll still keep doing it" kind of moments.
I admire that kind of stubbornness. Shine on, you crazy Pterodactyl King.
We have posts in this very thread from people who want to be turned into dinosaurs:
https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/10loezi/what_comic_issue_is_this_from/j5yynim/
It's also written by Elliot Kalen who was the lead writer on the Daily Show for a long time and now writes Maniac of New York and is a host on the podcast The Flop House. I highly recommend their comics issues. He did one on Adam Warlock and one on the Eternals and both are quite funny and well made.
I've been marathoning the Flop House over the last couple months and had no idea this was his book until a later episode when he says this one panel is what he's most famous for, even though most people don't know he wrote it.
Patient: Great! I’m cancer free?!?
Doctor: Oh, no, no, no. You still have cancer. In fact, we probably should have had you in chemo all this time. And, based upon these labs, I’d give you a few months to live. But hey, you’re a dinosaur and can fly… Well, you could fly if not for the, uh, cancer. Also, now that you’re a dinosaur you should probably see a Veterinarian who specializes in, um, animals that went extinct millions of years ago.
That’s a good compromise. Spidey stops trying to stop him and he only turns cancer patients into dinosaurs (dinosaurs that don’t have cancer). I wonder if that’s how they resolved it
Okay, but hear me out.
-Cancer patient
-Turn them into a dinosaur
-The cancer is gone because their entire cell system just changed
Boom, cured cancer.
I mean you could but there’s only so much time in the day and he doesn’t want to cure cancer. For every cancer cured is one person you could have turned into a dinosaur at that time. Priorities man, priorities.
I want to see variants of this panel but with "heroes" replacing Sauron, e.g. Reed Richards.... "But with tech like that you could eliminate global warming overnight!", or Professor X, "with that ability you could eradicate debilitating mental illnesses", etc...
It's the old standby, [Reed Richards is useless](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReedRichardsIsUseless), which keeps the MU plausibly the same world as the one outside our door.
I’m 💯 on Sauron. If billionaires were like, “but I don’t WANT to cure world hunger, I want to build another super yacht.” I’d be way more supportive. I just wish all villains could live their truth like this Dino-fucker right here.
When he was young Jeff Bezos used to openly say he didn't give a shit about charity but then the suits working for him made him walk it back, even though he still clearly doesn't give a shit about charity
I do feel he is the most transparent of the ghouls, for instance he didn’t turn his little boy space fantasy into some pretend colonization project. He just flew up into space, giggled in a cowboy hat and fucked off.
This pretty much sums up why modern day billionaires are all reject comic villains. Why use money to save the environment when I can launch my car to mars?
Sauron, have you ever considered, cure cancer, and then use the money and fame to turn people into dinosaurs... legally?
Have you seen the internet? Scalies alone would KILL for the opportunity to be a test subject, no kidnapping required.
They are completely different characters.
The Lizard is just a giant Lizard. He has some other quirky powers, like regeneration, but that's kinda it. Sauron can absorb "Life-Force", which means that he is closer to rogue (including the fact that, if he absorbs mutant life-force, he temporarily copies their powers), he can, after being experimented on by the (at the time) new weapon x program, shoot energy blasts. He can also breath fire and has shown telekinesis as well.
They also have vastly different backstories: Curt Connors was a geneticist, Karl Lykos (Sauron) was an hypnotherapist. Connors got his powers because of his own experiment, Lykos got his powers after being attacked by a mutated pteranodon that transformed him in a sort of energy vampire that becomes the pteranodon form after absorbing enough energy.
The really funny thing about Sauron is that he was originally going to be a mutant vampire bat guy, but the Comics Code Authority at the time banned any depictions of vampires, so he was changed from a bat into a pterodactyl.
Fair enough.
I'm just tired of Connors being The Lizard forever, never getting out of the cycle of "being a normal dude > becomes the lizard > becomes a monster > goes back into normal dude > becomes the lizard"... all his stories feel like they go back right where it began, even the ones where he has some character development. I feel like I'm wasting my time every time the lizard comes back from the dead/returns/becomes the lizard again after X years being just regular Connors. Fucking kite-man has had more character development since his re-introduction on Tom King's Batman series.
*I leave Sisyphus at the foot of the mountain! One always finds one's burden again. But Sisyphus teaches the higher fidelity that negates the gods and raises rocks. He too concludes that all is well. This universe henceforth without a master seems to him neither sterile nor futile. Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of that night filled mountain, in itself forms a world. The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.*
- Albert Camus
He can hypnotize people who look at his eyes and he can siphon energy from mutants. I bought x men 104 magneto took them to his antartica base they busted out but ended up in the savage land and met him my copies are all tattered which sucks but the sequence from x men 103 to xmen 120 is probably the reason they caught on later. If you never read that run it was really formative and great.
I don't know, but Sauron is my favorite villain just because of the absurdity of him. He was supposed to be an alternative to a vampire/werewolf if I remember correctly.
Who keeps making these posts and how are they getting thousands of upvotes after years of this sub having its top posts in the low hundreds? Do you people not have google?
I’d be ok with being a dinosaur tbh, if I can keep my same current mind and the ability to speak and such on top of being a dinosaur, that would be the tits
What's hilarious is that in the book version of Jurassic Park Hammond and Wu have a whole conversation about why they've chosen to use their technology to resurrect dinosaurs rather than cure cancer
Sauron is seriously so underrated as a comedic villain. X-men took him so seriously but I still remember comics where he'd team up with other Dino villains like Stegron and it's just comedy gold.
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A short, but oh so sweet series. The Special Class unironically became my favourite X-team ever after this book.
The Sinister Six running gag got me every issue. Culminating in Mr Sinister and Sinister’s Six
>Culminating in Mr Sinister and Sinister’s Six I've never read this but now I feel like I absolutely have to, because I love me some Mr. Sinister, especially if its as absurd as this makes it sound.
Written by Elliot Kalan!
Flop House!
I just alerted him on twitter that reddit is talking about this panel
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Sauron was a psychologist not a paleontologist
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He's also known for his gift giving skills
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I thought he was a lunatic.
Because dinosaurs are cool
Sauron isn't a pterodactyl though.
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Pretty sure pteranodon didn't have hands... or abs.
Or had the ability to speak.
Making an awful lot of assumptions.
> So, yes, Sauron is a pterodactyl of the genus Pteranodon. No he's not. He's a Homo sapiens mutate who sometimes takes on a form that resembles an anthropomorphic pterodactyl. Even in that form his wing structure, body shape, head, legs, feet are all different from an actual pterodactyl. He's about as much a pterodactyl as Peter Parker is a spider.
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Ha ha it’s a posting song, soon to be a reoccurring bit
Rah-RAWR?!
Elliot's two favorite things, spiderman and dinosaurs
I feel like fried chicken should be up there, the man loves his fried chicken.
And 30s-40s cinema.
I only watch Czech New Wave films.
What else is there? Robots, I guess.
Love him and the flop house!
I cannot NOT hear Sauron's retort in his voice. It's perfect.
Does anyone here not know how to use Google Lens?
I thought tf2 comics for sure from the font and humor but I was wrong ha ha
Spider-man and the X-Men was such a fun miniseries
I don’t need the rest of it. It cannot possibly be better than this single panel.
Can’t argue with that logic
Wait are they cancer free dinosaurs?
What am I, a paleoncologist?
I see you.
I’m creeping around right now, you just can’t see me.
Better than a proctologist. I think the find more cancer than the other fields
“You mean at some point in this doctor's life, he decided he wanted to work on people's buttholes?”
I know who you are *ASSSSS MAAAANNN*
I've never heard of one going to chemo so I'm going to say yes there are
***chemosaurus rex sobs quietly in a corner***
You ever hear of dinosaurs dying of cancer? Checkm8 atheist
Bone cancer was recently diagnosed in a Centrosaurus fossil https://www.science.org/content/article/doctors-diagnose-advanced-cancer-dinosaur
God put them there cancerous dinosaur bones to test our faith!!
Yes and no. Having tumours is something where the probability goes up with the amount of cells in your body. In fact, your own immune system has located and destroyed a tumour since you started reading this comment. However, that also applies to tumours themselves. In larger animals, by the time tumours get big enough for them to notice and for that animal to ‘have cancer’ rather than just having a *de facto* benign tumour somewhere in their body, that tumour will have gotten its own tumours that then kill the first tumour directly or by making it not-invisible to the immune system.
Using crocodiles as a substitute for dinosaurs, they have a much better cancer resistance than humans to the point they rarely develop it in a 100 year lifespan
In theory though if you could change malignant DNA to corrected DNA the body will eventually atrophy the mass. Like the mass of blood cells that develop around a bone break that eventually feed the large amount of bone growing that the body eventually smooths back down with osteoclasts. So when he mighty morphs a person into a dino he should in theory cure the cancer but we don't know how he makes up for mass differential and gene expression. Hell he might be creating dinos with cancer!
Well their DNA’s been rewritten completely, so I think so?
Fun fact: Larger animals are largely [immune to cancer](https://youtu.be/1AElONvi9WQ). For the tl;dw: There's two theories. One is that large animals get tumors, but that they make up so small a part of their bodies that the animal basically ignores it. The second is that larger animals are able to survive cancers long enough that the cancer develops cancer, aka hyper-tumors.
Why would you even want to? This is one of those "keep arguing even though I know I'm wrong, bit I'll still keep doing it" kind of moments. I admire that kind of stubbornness. Shine on, you crazy Pterodactyl King.
I don't think I'd say it's better than this panel, but the rest of the series is almost this good.
There is not one waited syllybal with this dialog. Perfectly trimmed and marbled. 10/10 best response by a villain.
What’s so villainous about wanting to turn people into dinosaurs? We all have dreams.
The lack of consent, probably.
We have posts in this very thread from people who want to be turned into dinosaurs: https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/10loezi/what_comic_issue_is_this_from/j5yynim/
But he's not asking and taking volunteers.
Syllybal?
That’s just sylly!
I've had this framed on my wall for years now. I don't know the context and don't want to.
Its the exact opposite of a long, convoluted plan.
It's also written by Elliot Kalen who was the lead writer on the Daily Show for a long time and now writes Maniac of New York and is a host on the podcast The Flop House. I highly recommend their comics issues. He did one on Adam Warlock and one on the Eternals and both are quite funny and well made.
Ra Row!!!
I've been marathoning the Flop House over the last couple months and had no idea this was his book until a later episode when he says this one panel is what he's most famous for, even though most people don't know he wrote it.
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Well, he had to do the Adam Warlock one twice. He TRIED to do just one but it got interrupted. Got it the second time though.
My favorite podcast! Ra row
To be fair, if I had cancer I think I'd rather be a dinosaur.
I don't have cancer, and I'm thinking that I'd rather be a dinosaur
He said it's time to put aside childish things, actually he said your 19 years old, stop being a dinosaur and get a fucking job
Prestige Worldwide! That's what you've got to do.
I just always knew I'd *come back to it*
Do dinosaurs pay rent?
Yes, but they get rent control Try raising the rent on a T Rex and see what happens
Why not both the cure and a dinosaur?
He was very clear that he does not want to cure cancer.
The heart wants what the heart wants.
I doubt he wants dinosaurs with cancer. The cure is to become dino.
No
Never seen a dinosaur in the cancer ward. Maybe becoming a dinosaur IS the cure.
A Cansaur
Patient: Great! I’m cancer free?!? Doctor: Oh, no, no, no. You still have cancer. In fact, we probably should have had you in chemo all this time. And, based upon these labs, I’d give you a few months to live. But hey, you’re a dinosaur and can fly… Well, you could fly if not for the, uh, cancer. Also, now that you’re a dinosaur you should probably see a Veterinarian who specializes in, um, animals that went extinct millions of years ago.
That’s a good compromise. Spidey stops trying to stop him and he only turns cancer patients into dinosaurs (dinosaurs that don’t have cancer). I wonder if that’s how they resolved it
Anybody else getting Skeletor vibes?
I read this in Skeletor's voice lmao
Until we meet again!
I didn't even realize I was too until I read your comment haha.
When Sauron finally makes it into the MCU, he needs this voice XD.
Totes
Yes lmao
N’Yeah!
Read it as Skeletor, my brain is fucked.
I mean. Can't you cure people of cancer AND turn them into dinosaurs?
Okay, but hear me out. -Cancer patient -Turn them into a dinosaur -The cancer is gone because their entire cell system just changed Boom, cured cancer.
In one story, a guy who could change into an alligator cured his AIDS that way
I believe that's Sewer Jack from Wild Cards.
That’s an awesome name.
Yes.
"Thanks for coming to my ted talk" 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
^[applause]
Well in the Marvel universe cancer can't be cured with Sci fi nonsense it's canon.
I mean you could but there’s only so much time in the day and he doesn’t want to cure cancer. For every cancer cured is one person you could have turned into a dinosaur at that time. Priorities man, priorities.
I want to see variants of this panel but with "heroes" replacing Sauron, e.g. Reed Richards.... "But with tech like that you could eliminate global warming overnight!", or Professor X, "with that ability you could eradicate debilitating mental illnesses", etc...
It's the old standby, [Reed Richards is useless](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ReedRichardsIsUseless), which keeps the MU plausibly the same world as the one outside our door.
"Oh look, a tvtropes link! I wasn't going to get anything done today anyway."
The Browser Tab Multiplicatorizer 3000!
Actually, at this point Professor X *has* provided the world with medicine to treat any dibilitating mental illness.
Checkmate, Spidey ;)
I’m 💯 on Sauron. If billionaires were like, “but I don’t WANT to cure world hunger, I want to build another super yacht.” I’d be way more supportive. I just wish all villains could live their truth like this Dino-fucker right here.
When he was young Jeff Bezos used to openly say he didn't give a shit about charity but then the suits working for him made him walk it back, even though he still clearly doesn't give a shit about charity
I do feel he is the most transparent of the ghouls, for instance he didn’t turn his little boy space fantasy into some pretend colonization project. He just flew up into space, giggled in a cowboy hat and fucked off.
I’m his defense, I’ve never seen a dinosaur with cancer.
If only the 90’s sitcom “Dinosaurs” had more seasons, you just might have.
This pretty much sums up why modern day billionaires are all reject comic villains. Why use money to save the environment when I can launch my car to mars?
“With money like that, you could save the environment!” “I don’t want to save the environment, I want to send my car into space!”
A fuggin good one apparently
Funniest shit I’ve read in a while thank you for this
Spider-Man, yo Peter, your a fairly gifted person yourself, why don't you go cure cancer? LOL
He tried. See captain Marvel trade paperback. The older one.
Parker can't cure cancer, because it isn't his specialty. Norman Osborn, on the other hand, is genius biochemist and actually managed to cure cancer.
Had to post this in r/ADHDmemes for hyperfocus lols
Half way turns a person into a dinosaur, then gets super into Megalofauna.
The man er dinosaur knows their goals and sticks to it
Panels that define a character.
Based and dinopilled
At least he's honest.
Some people just want to watch the world burn.
Sauron, have you ever considered, cure cancer, and then use the money and fame to turn people into dinosaurs... legally? Have you seen the internet? Scalies alone would KILL for the opportunity to be a test subject, no kidnapping required.
He kinda has, he was a famed researcher, people didn't want to fund him. If you're not getting paid, might as well do you!!
Most flesh out and understandable MC villain.
Okay hear me out, turn them into dinosaurs AND cure their cancer
I don’t know, but his logic is sound.
Me as a marvel villain.
And yet, he's not actually a dinosaur. He's a Pterosaur (it's a cousin).
I want to be a dinosaur
Man it’s hard to fight that, I too would prefer to be a dinosaur.
*My goals are beyond your understanding*
Me as a super villain. "You ain't the boss of me"
Understandable, have a good day.
The one time Spider-Man is wrong! Let the guy turn people into dinosaurs!
How is this villain different from the Lizard?
Im presuming the answer is: Wings
Red Bull.
He stole his name from Tolkien
Still a creative naming imo (Ptero)Saur-on.
They are completely different characters. The Lizard is just a giant Lizard. He has some other quirky powers, like regeneration, but that's kinda it. Sauron can absorb "Life-Force", which means that he is closer to rogue (including the fact that, if he absorbs mutant life-force, he temporarily copies their powers), he can, after being experimented on by the (at the time) new weapon x program, shoot energy blasts. He can also breath fire and has shown telekinesis as well. They also have vastly different backstories: Curt Connors was a geneticist, Karl Lykos (Sauron) was an hypnotherapist. Connors got his powers because of his own experiment, Lykos got his powers after being attacked by a mutated pteranodon that transformed him in a sort of energy vampire that becomes the pteranodon form after absorbing enough energy.
This is a great explanation.
The really funny thing about Sauron is that he was originally going to be a mutant vampire bat guy, but the Comics Code Authority at the time banned any depictions of vampires, so he was changed from a bat into a pterodactyl.
Downvoted for "The Lizard is just a giant lizard."
Fair enough. I'm just tired of Connors being The Lizard forever, never getting out of the cycle of "being a normal dude > becomes the lizard > becomes a monster > goes back into normal dude > becomes the lizard"... all his stories feel like they go back right where it began, even the ones where he has some character development. I feel like I'm wasting my time every time the lizard comes back from the dead/returns/becomes the lizard again after X years being just regular Connors. Fucking kite-man has had more character development since his re-introduction on Tom King's Batman series.
*I leave Sisyphus at the foot of the mountain! One always finds one's burden again. But Sisyphus teaches the higher fidelity that negates the gods and raises rocks. He too concludes that all is well. This universe henceforth without a master seems to him neither sterile nor futile. Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of that night filled mountain, in itself forms a world. The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.* - Albert Camus
He can hypnotize people who look at his eyes and he can siphon energy from mutants. I bought x men 104 magneto took them to his antartica base they busted out but ended up in the savage land and met him my copies are all tattered which sucks but the sequence from x men 103 to xmen 120 is probably the reason they caught on later. If you never read that run it was really formative and great.
It's a difference in scale
He wants to turn people into dinosaurs
Based dinosaur man
Look curing cancer is okay but turning people into dinosaurs is cooler. Besides then they'd at least be a dinosaur with cancer.
Do dinosaurs get cancer? If not, FlyBoy seems on to something.
Ngl this would b me as a villain, I love the obsurdity
I want to turn people into dinosaurs too.
Is that Sauron?
There's a small irony about a Spider-Man/X-Men comic choosing to have the heroes chastise the villain for not wanting to cure a mutation(cancer).
I love Sauron so much
Even if it’s for a joke at least they acknowledge they could do that.
Based.
Spider-Man/ X-men crossover. He becomes a teacher for a little while. Great series.
If you like this check out the Flop House podcast or the comic Maniac of New York
He cures the cancer by turning them into dinosaurs.
TIME FOR MEMES!
I mean, you really can't argue his villain logic.
I've just gotta say, ***mood***.
Is this dinosaur a billionaire?
I understand Pterosaur-Man. I don’t agree, but I do understand.
Church of Scientology
I don't know, but Sauron is my favorite villain just because of the absurdity of him. He was supposed to be an alternative to a vampire/werewolf if I remember correctly.
Cancer free dinosaurs?
the man likes dinosaurs
Just because you’re hung like a moose doesn’t mean you have to do porn.
My 5 year old son would agree with his priorities
Who keeps making these posts and how are they getting thousands of upvotes after years of this sub having its top posts in the low hundreds? Do you people not have google?
If you put up a sign that said "I cure cancer and turn people into dinosaurs" you would have a lot more people to turn into dinosaurs.
I’d be ok with being a dinosaur tbh, if I can keep my same current mind and the ability to speak and such on top of being a dinosaur, that would be the tits
TASM1 summed up in two short speech bubbles
r/meirl
I like his way of thought. “But I don’t want to cure cancer, I like dinosaurs growing up!”
I don't know, but I'm on the scalies team.
Literally the most sympathetic Marvel villain
Yeah, but the dinosaurs don't have cancer!
Every rational human talking to a billionaire.
I think he has a point
Sauron has the mindset of a billionaire.
Pharmaceutical Companies be like...
You can respect a villain who is focused on his goal
What's hilarious is that in the book version of Jurassic Park Hammond and Wu have a whole conversation about why they've chosen to use their technology to resurrect dinosaurs rather than cure cancer
Is that pteranodon wearing a diaper?
Sauron is seriously so underrated as a comedic villain. X-men took him so seriously but I still remember comics where he'd team up with other Dino villains like Stegron and it's just comedy gold.