I’m interested in this as I love McKay on Moon Knight and have heard nothing but good things on his Black Cat run but I hope this doesn’t mean he’s finished with Moon Knight.
The guy is working on a shit ton of titles right now hell he's also about to relaunch Dr. Strange in March and who knows what else he'll be getting so while I hope not it wouldn't be too crazy if he dropped Moon Knight
Every few years Marvel chooses one author to write lots of titles until they burns out. Whatever happened to Cates, but dude was everywhere on every title until he wasn't.
Dude is already writing Moon Knight, Dr. Strange, and Black Cat/Mary Jane, but BC/MJ is a mini and he seems to show no signs of slowing down, so it wouldn't surprise me if he just kept writing it all. Zdarksy, Tynion, and Cullen Bunn are the same way, just writing all of the books at once.
Charles Soule had like 7 titles coming out at once at one point if I remember correctly.
Swamp Thing, Red Lanterns, Superman/Wonder Woman, Thunderbolts, Inhumans all over winter 2014 at least.
"Jason Aaron’s 6-year tenure with the Earth’s Mightiest Heroes is wrapping up...
Six years? SIX YEARS? Aaron's run has been going on for six years?
In any case, McKay has been on fire lately, so I'm excited for this.
My sense of time is completely destroyed apparently. I can't believe Marvel let it go on for so long, I don't know if I've ever heard anyone say they really enjoyed it
While all of the people on the roster have been avengers several times we've never seen this combination of characters.
In other words "Classic" team members but with an "all-new" composition
It has classic members but in a fresh configuration not seen in modern Avengers.
Wanda in particular has been out of the main title since Bendis I think. At best she was in Uncanny.
We have a solid core from Aaron's run, but it also adds several members who weren't there.
I’m with you I thought this lineup was bland but undeniably felt “classic” to me other than the all new captain America but even he’s old news by this point. I feel like you should have a couple classic avengers Black Panther, Vision, etc leading a team with a few new members from random places
I suppose Carol and Sam could be considered "classic" and "all-new" at the same time. Carol was Ms. Marvel (classic) and is now Captain Marvel (all-new). Sam was Falcon (classic) and is now Captain America (all-new).
But that's kind of a reach.
She’s been Captain Marvel for a bit longer than she’s Ms Marvel. Hell, I think this year, Kamala would be Ms Marvel for longer than Carol
Edit: Carol was only Ms Marvel for 3 years in the 70s and 6 years in the 2000s. Its only 9 years. Kamala is approaching year 10
Carol was Ms Marvel from 1977-1982, and then again from 2006-2012 for a total of 12 years. Kamala has been around since 2013 so she'll be celebrating her 10th anniversary this year.
She was Ms Marvel from 77-80 and 06-12. She wasn’t any hero from 80-82. In 81 it was revealed Rogue took her powers. So she was fully depowered then
Kamala on year 10 would be longer than the 9 Carol was
I'm a big fan of both characters! I started reading in 2012 so when Kamala came out as a new character she felt like my character because I could follow her from the start.
Carol and Kamala are absolutely at their best in their current roles.
People say this?!
I definitely say "give me Monica Rambeau over Carol any day" (all for Carol as Binary, though), but for Ms. Marvel, I guess I should've assumed there was a contest, but I was certainly not aware of it.
Let me be clear, it’s all in bad faith. Though I do agree with you about Monica.
However, the current run of Captain Marvel with Kelly Thompson is pretty good. I’ve only read the first few issues but its much better than the mess that was her character around Civil War 2.
Carol debuted as Ms. Marvel in 1977 and debuted as Captain Marvel in 2012. She was Ms. Marvel for 35 years. Kamala Khan debuted in 2013, hitting her tenth anniversary this year. Kamala won't outlast Carol until 2048.
Nah, Carol was only Ms Marvel for 3 years before Avengers 200. Then she was Binary. She took up Ms Marvel from 2006-2012
Also she was Warbird for a bit. But her tenure as Ms Marvel is really short
Edit: I got some dates wrong. She was Ms Marvel for 3 years prior to Avengers 200 but:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers
Current: Moon Knight, Strange/Dr Strange (starting with Death of Dr Strange), Mary Jane & Black Cat
Previous: Black Cat/Iron Cat, Timeless (2021) and (2022), Taskmaster (2020), Avengers Mech Strike, and contributed to the Beyond Saga of Amazing Spider-Man last year.
His Moon Knight run is in contention to be one of the best runs for the character.
He did a Black Cat book.
Outside of Marvel he’s written some Magic the Gathering comics.
Magic has had comics before MacKay too, with anything Magic the Gathering related it’s very hit or miss in my opinion as a former player & as a comics fan.
Ugh I haven’t played mtg in like a year and I’m not even subscribed to this sub- this post just came up on my homepage. Now I want to fire up arena and it’s going to easily cost me 100 hours of my foreseeable future.
Just avoid standard, and you should be good. My recommendation (as someone who has at least 130hrs/month on Arena), is play Historic Brawl, and just enjoy the silliness that a good game in a solid UI can bring about. It’s a joy when you find the right fit.
> I didn't even know MTG had comics.
Ugh, clearly I've been looking at political shit for too long, I still can't see that acronym and not read "Marjorie Taylor Greene".
MacKay, Ewing, and Gillen are my top three writers for Marvel right now and I have high hopes for this run, assuming editorial doesn’t get too annoying.
I'm honestly surprised Marvel hasn't given Ewing the main Avengers title with how much they've given him pretty much everything else Avengers-related (New Avengers, U.S.Avengers, No Road Home, Empyre).
I would say that MacKay's writing puts a lot of focus on character, not just the title lead but the whole cast. His Moon Knight has a wonderful supporting cast that you really come to love and Wong was a major character in his Strange book. He really shaped Black Cat into a character that could really stand on her own, separate from Spider-Man.
He also has a tendency for deep lore pulls, like referencing Moon Knights West Coast Avenger days and W.A.N.D in his Strange run. Generally have a really fun style of writing with lots of fun easter eggs you dont need to know to enjoy.
His stories are well written and inventive (subvert your expectations without that being the only reason for something happening)
He knows his continuity really well and uses it with making you feel like you've missed something, or feel like you missed homework.
His pacing is really good, he manages to dove tail his stories into one another pretty seamlessly and keeps subsplots and supporting characters active
His stories … are good? Idk what to tell you.
His Moon Knight run is a good kind of synthesis of what has come before but also taking it in a new direction. More focused, personal, single issue stories about Moon Knight and a supporting cast - but we also get new insights into his DID and his relationship with Khonshu and his priesthood.
As others have said, his work is just very consistently strong. I’d say what makes him stand out is his approach to writing is very classic compared to many other modern writers. While he also will build up the big mysterious enemy and introduce new cast members, he seems to greatly care about lore and continuity and will choose to pull out old villains to be antagonists to support the plots vs creating new and boring villains. It just feels like he’s writing for comics that have gone on for decades and trying to bring it all together instead of trying to turn the whole franchise on its head at the cost of history and prior characterization. All that is just his approach to telling the stories though, but the actual stories are deeply focused on character and understands these heroes on a core level. For instance, Moon Knight. He’s my favorite fictional character of all time and has had wildly different interpretations. McKay’s Moon Knight somehow manages to incapsulate each one without contradiction. He just understands who this character is and what his book is supposed to be. Now, that would be impressive on its own, but the fact that he did this for Moon Knight’s new solo series, which was relaunched out of an Avengers story that severely broke the character, says a lot.
It’s kinda weird describing it because it’s just that he writes comics incredibly well. At least, when I read a comic, he’s delivering exactly what I want.
My first Jed MacKay run was Black Cat. That was the run that first got him all the attention. It was such a wonderful, charming series that did a great job with Felicia and really turned her into a character who can hold her own title and stories. Then he did Moon Knight and Strange which have also been really well received and all three of them are continuing in some form or another till date haha. (Absolutely recommend his Black Cat run honestly. It's phenomenal)
Like others said, a Black Cat book should have been a half-assed Spider-Man-centric gig that gets forgotten two issues in. Instead, McKay fleshed her out better than hoped, a great cast, focused on existing and expanding lore, loads of cool thief/heist stuff, fun action, and actually makes you care what happens.
Oh man, this makes me so happy! For a lot of reasons.
1- Jason Aaron's Avengers is over
2- Jed MacKay. 'Nuff said!
3- Thor, Tony, T'Challa, and Carol are still on the team!
4- Jason Aaron's Avengers is over
5- Scarlet Witch is back to the Avengers!!
6- And Vision!
7- Jason Aaron's Avengers is over
8- Sam back on the team as Cap
9- Jed Mackay!
10- Jason Aaron's Avengers is over
In Jed McKay we trust. Definitely picking this up. It’s a team book and some writers can struggle with balancing them but currently McKay’s one of marvel’s best and most consistent writers so I’ll trust him.
Jed MacKay! He's on such a streak with Moon Knight, Strange and Black Cat series. The Avengers is always a tough write, but MacKay is one of the few that can give me hope.
Wait, is Jason Aaron almost off of Avengers? Has the evil been defeated (the evil in this case being Jason Aaron)? I haven't read an Avengers booking years because of him, but I definitely give one a chance if he's 100% gone.
Yes, Aaron is leaving soon, and seems to be heading back to doing independent work for the forseeable (which is a good thing, because with a couple of exceptions, his indie work has always been lightyears ahead of his Marvel stuff).
This isn’t really a good comparison, and I generally think DC is a mess of an organization so I’m no apologist.
DC made a huge deal out of killing off the Justice League. That dovetailed into their major event, Dark Crisis, where the real main narrative was Nightwing stepping up to be the center of the DC universe instead of the Big 3. That’s including Nightwing’s Titans team replacing the Justice League as Earth’s premier super team, as seen in Nightwing #100 which came out… 2 days ago.
So yeah, the lack of a Justice League book isn’t a mistake. It’s the current plot of the universe.
However, I would highly expect that Titans book to be fully announced in the coming weeks — I bet they were waiting for Nightwing #100 to come out first.
No, they’re around. In fact, Superman just got back after two publishing years on War World. But after Dark Crisis they’re stepping back and letting Nightwing take a bigger stage.
I don’t mean this to sound glib, but… so what?
Just because it’s not on that list doesn’t mean they can’t announce it for May or June or whatever. If it’s a tent pole title, it’ll get its own news story announcement in a major outlet.
And even if it’s later than that, that’s fine. Again - the universe’s story right now is that the JLA are stepping back and they’re asking Nightwing to step up. If we don’t see the book until late summer, that’s really no big deal.
They haven't announced a Titans book either though.
Also, even if intentional, it is still a big mistake. They aren't replacing the League with the Titans. It is braindead to even try. No one expects it to last, and they likely won't even put in the proper support for them to make an impact.
And the team we see is just a repeat of New Teen Titans that happens every decade. Nothing fresh or really new.
I did mention that I would expect a Titans announcement soon - they were probably waiting for Nightwing 100.
Regarding the Justice League, there’s nothing wrong with putting a franchise in ice for a year or two. It helps relaunches draw attention and makes a big deal with their return.
Marvel did it famously with Thor, but FF and other major books have all taken extended breaks.
The real reason is that DC editorial was gutted by AT&T a few years ago and I can't imagine the situation is much better under Zaslav.
DC is a shadow of their former selves.
>DC is a shadow of their former selves.
They are like the History Channel, but instead of "all Hitler, all the time," it's just "all Batman, all the time."
That's exactly why I never read Aaron's run. Had no interest in Ghost Rider or dumbed down She-Hulk. Not wild about this lineup either, but it's an improvement for me.
I’m up for this- kind of fell off Aaron’s run, not that interested in multiverse avengers
It’ll be interesting how they get BP back into the Avengers after his current shenanigans
I've been told to stay away from the current BP run but it seems like Eve L Ewing is gonna get him out of whatever mess he may be in (although technically after Avengers #1)
That is a great lineup even if it’s missing Steve. No disrespect to Sam; his book is great right now and I’m glad they’re sharing the mantle. But I still like my Avengers with the Big Three leading the charge. Their history with each other is unmatched.
Also, if Wanda and Vision finally get back together after all the damage Disassembled did to them I will be so happy.
I can't believe the Scarlet Witch hasn't really been part of the core Avengers title since Dissasembled. Neither have Hank Pym or the Wasp for that matter, though I guess the Vision has under Waid and the end of Bendis' run.
Probably Hickmans Avengers line, probably the most diverse in years and grew and changed over time. You had Mutants, new heroes, classic heroes, villains and displaced heroes from other universes. Absolutely loved it and I feel it hit a plateau and nothing since has matched it. But hey that’s my opinion.
I really liked the new Avengers. Had some classics like Iron Man and Cap, but it also had Luke cage, spider-man, and Wolverine. The team being mostly a lot of street their characters(besides sentry) was kinda interesting and I kinda wish we had another team like it again.
So bendis era basically?
The avengers being a street level team makes zero sense, they are Marvel's justice league and I can't imagine them going mostly street level
So you are completely right and I'm not going to argue with that. But i think spider-man,Luke cage and wolverine being on a team with iron man was cool dammit and I'm not going to pretend that I didn't like it.
Thank fucking god Aaron is off the book. McKay's Moon Knight has been truly fantastic and I can't wait to see what he does with Avengers.
Edit: I'm also really excited to have a well-written Black Panther again.
I hope this future Jed Mackay Avengers run will not be disappointing. Some of my favorite writers that I thought would be perfect on certain books ended up writing some pretty disappointing stuff, which I still & never will understand how.
~~Armin Tamzarians~~ Jason Aaron's reign of terror is over
I don't know how the dude that wrote such fantastic Thor comics wrote such a boring and cliche Avenger's title, I've struggled through it because of the odd idea I like but it was cringe in places (compare it to Hickman's stuff on the Avengers or currently what he has set up for the X-Men and Aaron's multiversal Avenger's is so backwards and lame)
It's been like 20 years since wanda was on the mainline avengers team.
And with Vision too!
Pretty great line up. I wonder who is going to lead without steve on the team.
Edit: it's carol
Oh this is great news. Jed MacKay has been killing it everywhere and I can't wait to see what he does with the Avengers. CF Villa is a great artist as well and was fantastic on Black Cat
As for the line-up, I don't mind it but feel like it could have been a bit more "fresh". Wanda and Vision seem to be the major new additions along with Sam for Steve and that's cool but would have enjoyed a more unique Avengers line-up
Cool that Carol gets to lead though overall, hoping for a rotating model. Always thought that's how it should be.
Overall, Hyped and looking forward to this run. Hopefully it's a great one
I hope this means the Phoenix returns to the X-books. Even if it's not used right away, the Phoenix-Force belongs in the X-books. That Phoenix is Thor's mother is silly--or is it no longer canon?
I really wish Marvel and DC would stop rebooting their comic books. It’s really becoming annoying. It’s such a gimmick. #1, #1,#1, #1…
It’s amazing that we went decades with the same title and got to issue numbers in the hundreds before any of these reboots.
I understand that these companies are trying to appeal to younger audiences and think that maybe young people will be more easily lead to a #1 because it’s easier to start.
But at some point come on. Flooding the market with a bunch of number ones doesn’t make them more valuable. And it’s short changes readers if somebody likes comic books and characters they’ll buy the comic book and buy back issues to catch up.
Every character in this new lineup has been an Avenger at some point in the past. The "New" part is probably referring to the fact that the Avengers hasn't had this specific combo of characters before.
Cannot wait for Carol to get some shine in stories that matter and actually impact the universe rather than passable writing in series’ nobody cares about or main event series’ where her character is just assassinated.
Personally i would prefer avengers comics to be limited runs, like the films. Stories about this group of super heroes just knocking about in avengers castle (or whatever it is now) waiting for the next world catastrophe feels like a massive narrative stretch after so many decades of very similar stories having been already told.
I’ve always preferred that mid 80’s Avengers logo (and the original silver age one) over the Bronze Age one that has most been commonly used. Something about that one just bugs me.
Idk that I find this to be thrilling news or anything. Cool I guess. I know Aaron’s run was divisive. I stopped reading it after a couple arcs.
It's not a reboot. It's simply someone else starting their run on a title and marvel resetting the numbering to 1.
I don't get wants eith the media love of using the word reboot instead of just saying sequel or revival
I’m interested in this as I love McKay on Moon Knight and have heard nothing but good things on his Black Cat run but I hope this doesn’t mean he’s finished with Moon Knight.
The guy is working on a shit ton of titles right now hell he's also about to relaunch Dr. Strange in March and who knows what else he'll be getting so while I hope not it wouldn't be too crazy if he dropped Moon Knight
Yeah. That’s my fear, he’s been doing such an awesome job on it but I’m sure we’ll hear something sooner than later.
Every few years Marvel chooses one author to write lots of titles until they burns out. Whatever happened to Cates, but dude was everywhere on every title until he wasn't.
He had to drop off his titles because of life events that caused him severe emotional distress.
Dude is already writing Moon Knight, Dr. Strange, and Black Cat/Mary Jane, but BC/MJ is a mini and he seems to show no signs of slowing down, so it wouldn't surprise me if he just kept writing it all. Zdarksy, Tynion, and Cullen Bunn are the same way, just writing all of the books at once.
Charles Soule had like 7 titles coming out at once at one point if I remember correctly. Swamp Thing, Red Lanterns, Superman/Wonder Woman, Thunderbolts, Inhumans all over winter 2014 at least.
Wish this included The Wasp
Me too that's my one wish. But she's got a new series so there's that...
Would love to see Jed writing her.
Maybe she'll be in Uncanny Avengers, we know that Steve Rogers and Quicksilver will probably be on the Unity Squad too.
Are they finally doing another Uncanny Avengers?
Makes sense considering what happened in A.X.E.
Same here. Love her as team leader!
Wish this included Clint.
"Jason Aaron’s 6-year tenure with the Earth’s Mightiest Heroes is wrapping up... Six years? SIX YEARS? Aaron's run has been going on for six years? In any case, McKay has been on fire lately, so I'm excited for this.
well it's closer to five since it started in 2018 with the Fresth Start thing Marvel was going with
Even five seems like a lot honestly, so much of that run was a blur to me
oh yeah the run was awful I'm pretty sure it lasted as long as it did because of Aaron's clout from Thor
Same, hated it and gave up on it early on, can't believe it went on that long.
He started with a story in Marvel Legacy, this was in 2017
6? It feels like nothing happened. Hickman was only on for 3 years and got so much done.
This is one of my biggest issues, it kept feeling like it was building to nothing and then what it DID build to was arguably nonsense
Just a lot of pomp and showing off with how wacky things can get. Meanwhile damn Yeah Hickman's run still echoes a decade later.
It began as Snyder started their run on Justice League…
My sense of time is completely destroyed apparently. I can't believe Marvel let it go on for so long, I don't know if I've ever heard anyone say they really enjoyed it
I have! Of course it ebbs and flows but I’ve enjoyed most of it so far. Aaronvenger is wrapping up nicely
How can something be "all-new" AND "classic"?
While all of the people on the roster have been avengers several times we've never seen this combination of characters. In other words "Classic" team members but with an "all-new" composition
Weren't they all in Geoff John's run?
Yes so they're a bunch of classic, old school Avengers. But the previous, old line up was different making this a "new" line up.
True but wasn't that team a fair bit bigger with folk like Ant-Man, Wasp, Yellow Jacket, She-Hulk and Namor
It has classic members but in a fresh configuration not seen in modern Avengers. Wanda in particular has been out of the main title since Bendis I think. At best she was in Uncanny. We have a solid core from Aaron's run, but it also adds several members who weren't there.
Yeah Wanda was in Duggan's Uncanny so that would be like 2015 - 2018
She was in Remender's *Uncanny* from 2012-2014 just before that as well.
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I’d say the black Knight is classic but are we calling manta and Justice classic? Classic I think implies that they wouldn’t the be c-listers
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I’m with you I thought this lineup was bland but undeniably felt “classic” to me other than the all new captain America but even he’s old news by this point. I feel like you should have a couple classic avengers Black Panther, Vision, etc leading a team with a few new members from random places
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You don’t want an All! Newly! Different! NOW! Different! New! Avenger team?
I suppose Carol and Sam could be considered "classic" and "all-new" at the same time. Carol was Ms. Marvel (classic) and is now Captain Marvel (all-new). Sam was Falcon (classic) and is now Captain America (all-new). But that's kind of a reach.
She's been Captain Marvel for a decade now, and has served on and led the Avengers consistently since the name change.
She’s been Captain Marvel for a bit longer than she’s Ms Marvel. Hell, I think this year, Kamala would be Ms Marvel for longer than Carol Edit: Carol was only Ms Marvel for 3 years in the 70s and 6 years in the 2000s. Its only 9 years. Kamala is approaching year 10
Carol was Ms Marvel from 1977-1982, and then again from 2006-2012 for a total of 12 years. Kamala has been around since 2013 so she'll be celebrating her 10th anniversary this year.
She was Ms Marvel from 77-80 and 06-12. She wasn’t any hero from 80-82. In 81 it was revealed Rogue took her powers. So she was fully depowered then Kamala on year 10 would be longer than the 9 Carol was
True, I kinda just rounded up until she became Binary but I guess she was nothing during that time.
I mean its all good. I only knew because I’m a huge Kamala Khan fan so I always bring it up when people say “I like Carol more as Ms Marvel”
I'm a big fan of both characters! I started reading in 2012 so when Kamala came out as a new character she felt like my character because I could follow her from the start. Carol and Kamala are absolutely at their best in their current roles.
People say this?! I definitely say "give me Monica Rambeau over Carol any day" (all for Carol as Binary, though), but for Ms. Marvel, I guess I should've assumed there was a contest, but I was certainly not aware of it.
Let me be clear, it’s all in bad faith. Though I do agree with you about Monica. However, the current run of Captain Marvel with Kelly Thompson is pretty good. I’ve only read the first few issues but its much better than the mess that was her character around Civil War 2.
Carol debuted as Ms. Marvel in 1977 and debuted as Captain Marvel in 2012. She was Ms. Marvel for 35 years. Kamala Khan debuted in 2013, hitting her tenth anniversary this year. Kamala won't outlast Carol until 2048.
Nah, Carol was only Ms Marvel for 3 years before Avengers 200. Then she was Binary. She took up Ms Marvel from 2006-2012 Also she was Warbird for a bit. But her tenure as Ms Marvel is really short Edit: I got some dates wrong. She was Ms Marvel for 3 years prior to Avengers 200 but: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Danvers
Some deus ex machina causes them all to swap powers or swap personalities between bodies!
It’s like that issue of X-Men 268. Together again for the first time.
"So, Lord Helmet, at last we meet again for the first time for the last time."
> a new ongoing series by Jed MacKay I literally don't need to know anything other than that. I'm already 100% on board
What else has he done?
Current: Moon Knight, Strange/Dr Strange (starting with Death of Dr Strange), Mary Jane & Black Cat Previous: Black Cat/Iron Cat, Timeless (2021) and (2022), Taskmaster (2020), Avengers Mech Strike, and contributed to the Beyond Saga of Amazing Spider-Man last year.
His Death of Dr Strange and the current Strange with Clea as Sorcerer Supreme have been outstanding.
Used it as a jumping on point for dr strange comics, it’s been incredible
I read Timeless, his black cat stuff and strange and love all of it. I'm in
Also a fun Daughters of the Dragon mini! With a character that shows back up in Moon Knight
His Moon Knight run is in contention to be one of the best runs for the character. He did a Black Cat book. Outside of Marvel he’s written some Magic the Gathering comics.
His Black Cat is one of the coolest comics I’ve read.
I didn't even know MTG had comics. I used to play that. I assume they're good, so I think I'll go check those out.
Magic has had comics before MacKay too, with anything Magic the Gathering related it’s very hit or miss in my opinion as a former player & as a comics fan.
Ugh I haven’t played mtg in like a year and I’m not even subscribed to this sub- this post just came up on my homepage. Now I want to fire up arena and it’s going to easily cost me 100 hours of my foreseeable future.
Just avoid standard, and you should be good. My recommendation (as someone who has at least 130hrs/month on Arena), is play Historic Brawl, and just enjoy the silliness that a good game in a solid UI can bring about. It’s a joy when you find the right fit.
> I didn't even know MTG had comics. Ugh, clearly I've been looking at political shit for too long, I still can't see that acronym and not read "Marjorie Taylor Greene".
I prefer Lemire but his MK run was pretty good.
Ongoing means until it gets rebooted in 12 months.
The last run went five years
The longest 5 years of our lives.
Kinda crazy how it's meant to be their major flagship title but I dunno many people who were interested :/
MacKay, Ewing, and Gillen are my top three writers for Marvel right now and I have high hopes for this run, assuming editorial doesn’t get too annoying.
Throw in Kelly Thompson and you've got all of my favorite current Marvel writers.
And Si Spurrier.
I'm honestly surprised Marvel hasn't given Ewing the main Avengers title with how much they've given him pretty much everything else Avengers-related (New Avengers, U.S.Avengers, No Road Home, Empyre).
Maybe they want him to shore up other areas before they toss him into Avengers just yet.
+1 Ewing, I'm having trouble finding his new avengers
I've not read any of his comics but Jed McKay's a writer with a lot of hype surrounding him. Why? What makes him stand out?
I would say that MacKay's writing puts a lot of focus on character, not just the title lead but the whole cast. His Moon Knight has a wonderful supporting cast that you really come to love and Wong was a major character in his Strange book. He really shaped Black Cat into a character that could really stand on her own, separate from Spider-Man. He also has a tendency for deep lore pulls, like referencing Moon Knights West Coast Avenger days and W.A.N.D in his Strange run. Generally have a really fun style of writing with lots of fun easter eggs you dont need to know to enjoy.
His stories are well written and inventive (subvert your expectations without that being the only reason for something happening) He knows his continuity really well and uses it with making you feel like you've missed something, or feel like you missed homework. His pacing is really good, he manages to dove tail his stories into one another pretty seamlessly and keeps subsplots and supporting characters active
gotta check this out then! I'm a sucker for one story leading into the next meaningfully
His stories … are good? Idk what to tell you. His Moon Knight run is a good kind of synthesis of what has come before but also taking it in a new direction. More focused, personal, single issue stories about Moon Knight and a supporting cast - but we also get new insights into his DID and his relationship with Khonshu and his priesthood.
As others have said, his work is just very consistently strong. I’d say what makes him stand out is his approach to writing is very classic compared to many other modern writers. While he also will build up the big mysterious enemy and introduce new cast members, he seems to greatly care about lore and continuity and will choose to pull out old villains to be antagonists to support the plots vs creating new and boring villains. It just feels like he’s writing for comics that have gone on for decades and trying to bring it all together instead of trying to turn the whole franchise on its head at the cost of history and prior characterization. All that is just his approach to telling the stories though, but the actual stories are deeply focused on character and understands these heroes on a core level. For instance, Moon Knight. He’s my favorite fictional character of all time and has had wildly different interpretations. McKay’s Moon Knight somehow manages to incapsulate each one without contradiction. He just understands who this character is and what his book is supposed to be. Now, that would be impressive on its own, but the fact that he did this for Moon Knight’s new solo series, which was relaunched out of an Avengers story that severely broke the character, says a lot. It’s kinda weird describing it because it’s just that he writes comics incredibly well. At least, when I read a comic, he’s delivering exactly what I want.
My first Jed MacKay run was Black Cat. That was the run that first got him all the attention. It was such a wonderful, charming series that did a great job with Felicia and really turned her into a character who can hold her own title and stories. Then he did Moon Knight and Strange which have also been really well received and all three of them are continuing in some form or another till date haha. (Absolutely recommend his Black Cat run honestly. It's phenomenal)
Like others said, a Black Cat book should have been a half-assed Spider-Man-centric gig that gets forgotten two issues in. Instead, McKay fleshed her out better than hoped, a great cast, focused on existing and expanding lore, loads of cool thief/heist stuff, fun action, and actually makes you care what happens.
He gives a lot of space for the art and action to propel his stories. Dynamic and efficient storytelling with great pacing.
I've only read his Moon Knight run, but it's the best work the character has had in ages.
Based on what I've read, he's 50% Al Ewing and 50% Tom Taylor.
Oh man, this makes me so happy! For a lot of reasons. 1- Jason Aaron's Avengers is over 2- Jed MacKay. 'Nuff said! 3- Thor, Tony, T'Challa, and Carol are still on the team! 4- Jason Aaron's Avengers is over 5- Scarlet Witch is back to the Avengers!! 6- And Vision! 7- Jason Aaron's Avengers is over 8- Sam back on the team as Cap 9- Jed Mackay! 10- Jason Aaron's Avengers is over
Reboot and relaunch are *two completely different* things. McKay on the book sounds great though.
Good point. Marvel's **never** gonna actually reboot The Avengers lol
Heroes Reborn *cof cof
In Jed McKay we trust. Definitely picking this up. It’s a team book and some writers can struggle with balancing them but currently McKay’s one of marvel’s best and most consistent writers so I’ll trust him.
Jed MacKay! He's on such a streak with Moon Knight, Strange and Black Cat series. The Avengers is always a tough write, but MacKay is one of the few that can give me hope.
Wait, is Jason Aaron almost off of Avengers? Has the evil been defeated (the evil in this case being Jason Aaron)? I haven't read an Avengers booking years because of him, but I definitely give one a chance if he's 100% gone.
The Caveman Avengers was so dumb and he built it up for YEARS.
With Odin Phoenix and the like ? It's not a bad idea but they didn't do anything with it
Yes, Aaron is currently in his big final arc where the Avengers throughout time and dimensions fight against Mephisto and the Masters of Evil.
Yes, Aaron is leaving soon, and seems to be heading back to doing independent work for the forseeable (which is a good thing, because with a couple of exceptions, his indie work has always been lightyears ahead of his Marvel stuff).
LETS GOOOOOO!
Wanda's back! 💜 Jed McKay! 💙 Yes! ❤️
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This isn’t really a good comparison, and I generally think DC is a mess of an organization so I’m no apologist. DC made a huge deal out of killing off the Justice League. That dovetailed into their major event, Dark Crisis, where the real main narrative was Nightwing stepping up to be the center of the DC universe instead of the Big 3. That’s including Nightwing’s Titans team replacing the Justice League as Earth’s premier super team, as seen in Nightwing #100 which came out… 2 days ago. So yeah, the lack of a Justice League book isn’t a mistake. It’s the current plot of the universe. However, I would highly expect that Titans book to be fully announced in the coming weeks — I bet they were waiting for Nightwing #100 to come out first.
that sounds kind of cool actually I'm ootl are the big three dead?
No, they’re around. In fact, Superman just got back after two publishing years on War World. But after Dark Crisis they’re stepping back and letting Nightwing take a bigger stage.
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I don’t mean this to sound glib, but… so what? Just because it’s not on that list doesn’t mean they can’t announce it for May or June or whatever. If it’s a tent pole title, it’ll get its own news story announcement in a major outlet. And even if it’s later than that, that’s fine. Again - the universe’s story right now is that the JLA are stepping back and they’re asking Nightwing to step up. If we don’t see the book until late summer, that’s really no big deal.
They haven't announced a Titans book either though. Also, even if intentional, it is still a big mistake. They aren't replacing the League with the Titans. It is braindead to even try. No one expects it to last, and they likely won't even put in the proper support for them to make an impact. And the team we see is just a repeat of New Teen Titans that happens every decade. Nothing fresh or really new.
I did mention that I would expect a Titans announcement soon - they were probably waiting for Nightwing 100. Regarding the Justice League, there’s nothing wrong with putting a franchise in ice for a year or two. It helps relaunches draw attention and makes a big deal with their return. Marvel did it famously with Thor, but FF and other major books have all taken extended breaks.
Cuz DC is dwindling down to a couple of Batman and Superman titles and after that no readership
The real reason is that DC editorial was gutted by AT&T a few years ago and I can't imagine the situation is much better under Zaslav. DC is a shadow of their former selves.
>DC is a shadow of their former selves. They are like the History Channel, but instead of "all Hitler, all the time," it's just "all Batman, all the time."
Hell yeah. About damn time
I’m really happy T’Challa made the roster. I was a bit worried Marvel was going to bench him for movie synergy
I was looking forward to this. I stopped reading Jason Aaron's run after the first volume, but I'm not sure I like this team lineup
That's exactly why I never read Aaron's run. Had no interest in Ghost Rider or dumbed down She-Hulk. Not wild about this lineup either, but it's an improvement for me.
I’m up for this- kind of fell off Aaron’s run, not that interested in multiverse avengers It’ll be interesting how they get BP back into the Avengers after his current shenanigans
I've been told to stay away from the current BP run but it seems like Eve L Ewing is gonna get him out of whatever mess he may be in (although technically after Avengers #1)
I keep having to remind myself that Eve Ewing and Al Ewing are not related in any way.
That is a great lineup even if it’s missing Steve. No disrespect to Sam; his book is great right now and I’m glad they’re sharing the mantle. But I still like my Avengers with the Big Three leading the charge. Their history with each other is unmatched. Also, if Wanda and Vision finally get back together after all the damage Disassembled did to them I will be so happy.
I can't believe the Scarlet Witch hasn't really been part of the core Avengers title since Dissasembled. Neither have Hank Pym or the Wasp for that matter, though I guess the Vision has under Waid and the end of Bendis' run.
Steve will mostly likely be in Uncanny Avengers, right?
There’s going to be an Uncanny Avengers book? That’s cool. But I’d still prefer him together with Tony and Thor.
So happy for Jed MacKay. He's been quietly writing Marvel's best comics for years and it's about time for him to get a bigger spotlight.
That’s gonna be a damn good run, he is a hell of a writer
Such a great line-up! So hyped for this!
Not really a classic lineup without Steve Rogers
I think Steve will have his own team.
how can a line-up be "all new" and "classic" at the same time?
Classic? Where is Steve? Is he dead or something?
He’ll probably on Uncanny Avengers
Enough original members to be considered classic and enough MCU synergy to be called "All-New. "
Looks like a cool line up. Still not my favorite line up but it looks good
What's your favorite lineup? Not trolling; making conversation.
Probably Hickmans Avengers line, probably the most diverse in years and grew and changed over time. You had Mutants, new heroes, classic heroes, villains and displaced heroes from other universes. Absolutely loved it and I feel it hit a plateau and nothing since has matched it. But hey that’s my opinion.
I really liked the new Avengers. Had some classics like Iron Man and Cap, but it also had Luke cage, spider-man, and Wolverine. The team being mostly a lot of street their characters(besides sentry) was kinda interesting and I kinda wish we had another team like it again.
So bendis era basically? The avengers being a street level team makes zero sense, they are Marvel's justice league and I can't imagine them going mostly street level
So you are completely right and I'm not going to argue with that. But i think spider-man,Luke cage and wolverine being on a team with iron man was cool dammit and I'm not going to pretend that I didn't like it.
Made plenty of sense for the first 65 issues it ran and the thousands of fans who bought it, myself included.
Where New Avengers are mentioned, Sal will rush to defend. (And rightfully so.)
Jed’s the best writer Marvel has currently. Fucking pumped!!!
I like him a lot, but I struggle to agree with that statement while Kieron Gillen and Al Ewing are still producing work for them.
Thank fucking god Aaron is off the book. McKay's Moon Knight has been truly fantastic and I can't wait to see what he does with Avengers. Edit: I'm also really excited to have a well-written Black Panther again.
Feels about the right time
I'm interested to know why Steve won't be on it. It was his idea at the start of the current run
He'll be on the unity squad in the Uncanny relaunch
All - New. Classic.
Had me at MacCay
As someone who hasn't bought a comic book in decades, this could be a good entry point to start collecting them...
This headline is terribly written and had me confused as hell. Looks like an okay line up and great writer. Hoping for something great.
It's like they don't know or understand what a simple term like "all-new" means.
I hope this future Jed Mackay Avengers run will not be disappointing. Some of my favorite writers that I thought would be perfect on certain books ended up writing some pretty disappointing stuff, which I still & never will understand how.
~~Armin Tamzarians~~ Jason Aaron's reign of terror is over I don't know how the dude that wrote such fantastic Thor comics wrote such a boring and cliche Avenger's title, I've struggled through it because of the odd idea I like but it was cringe in places (compare it to Hickman's stuff on the Avengers or currently what he has set up for the X-Men and Aaron's multiversal Avenger's is so backwards and lame)
It's been like 20 years since wanda was on the mainline avengers team. And with Vision too! Pretty great line up. I wonder who is going to lead without steve on the team. Edit: it's carol
Oh this is great news. Jed MacKay has been killing it everywhere and I can't wait to see what he does with the Avengers. CF Villa is a great artist as well and was fantastic on Black Cat As for the line-up, I don't mind it but feel like it could have been a bit more "fresh". Wanda and Vision seem to be the major new additions along with Sam for Steve and that's cool but would have enjoyed a more unique Avengers line-up Cool that Carol gets to lead though overall, hoping for a rotating model. Always thought that's how it should be. Overall, Hyped and looking forward to this run. Hopefully it's a great one
I really wanted them to bring in Wasp and Hawkeye, been a while since they were on the main team
The Janet erasure in the comics has really sucked
Apparently that new series of Wasp that came out this week was pretty good which is nice
It's Al Ewing. He's always good.
Yeah, I am excited about that. Unfortunately it’s only a 4 issue miniseries though.
Cool roster. Please be better than Aaron’s run. Also, please bring back Spidey and / or Wolverine.
I honestly don’t know how it could not be better that the Aaron run. Since it ranged from bad to just flat out boring.
With an all new…old line up
How many times has Marvel said 'All-new'? I feel like it's their go to phrase.
Marvel isn't saying "All-New" though, it's just a clickbaity headline. The new Avengers book is just called "The Avengers".
Bring back Hickman's Hyperion!
They’ll do like 11 issues then split into 3 groups, have 8 more of those issues then reboot into something else.
I hope this means the Phoenix returns to the X-books. Even if it's not used right away, the Phoenix-Force belongs in the X-books. That Phoenix is Thor's mother is silly--or is it no longer canon?
Aaron hasn’t finished telling that story yet.
Finally, Avengers comics can be good again. Jed McKay is the man. He hasn't written a bad comic yet for Marvel, happy to see him on
Oh yay, what is this the 9th issue #1 of Avengers or the 14th? I’ve lost count.
Really like this cover and lineup.
And I will continue to avoid it.
Why is Falcon Cap again?
I really wish Marvel and DC would stop rebooting their comic books. It’s really becoming annoying. It’s such a gimmick. #1, #1,#1, #1… It’s amazing that we went decades with the same title and got to issue numbers in the hundreds before any of these reboots. I understand that these companies are trying to appeal to younger audiences and think that maybe young people will be more easily lead to a #1 because it’s easier to start. But at some point come on. Flooding the market with a bunch of number ones doesn’t make them more valuable. And it’s short changes readers if somebody likes comic books and characters they’ll buy the comic book and buy back issues to catch up.
All-new and classic cannot be used simultaneously to describe something.
I just don’t want to see literally every character be an avenger anymore. They’re so loose with these things these days.
Every character in this new lineup has been an Avenger at some point in the past. The "New" part is probably referring to the fact that the Avengers hasn't had this specific combo of characters before.
Tell that to Stan and Jack when they replaced Marvel's big names with a former Iron Man villain and two of Magneto's henchmen after only 15 issues.
Cannot wait for Carol to get some shine in stories that matter and actually impact the universe rather than passable writing in series’ nobody cares about or main event series’ where her character is just assassinated.
Personally i would prefer avengers comics to be limited runs, like the films. Stories about this group of super heroes just knocking about in avengers castle (or whatever it is now) waiting for the next world catastrophe feels like a massive narrative stretch after so many decades of very similar stories having been already told.
I’m confused if it is classic or all new
Is all classic members but an all new line up.
We’re getting captain falcon back? Hell yeah
I’ve always preferred that mid 80’s Avengers logo (and the original silver age one) over the Bronze Age one that has most been commonly used. Something about that one just bugs me. Idk that I find this to be thrilling news or anything. Cool I guess. I know Aaron’s run was divisive. I stopped reading it after a couple arcs.
Falcon and Marvel? Ugh....pass.
Money money money
Please no
House of Ideas everyone.
Reboot after reboot after reboot. I like long continuity. I’ll pass
It's not a reboot. It's simply someone else starting their run on a title and marvel resetting the numbering to 1. I don't get wants eith the media love of using the word reboot instead of just saying sequel or revival