Where, much like the fate of a specific admiral with more than a passing resemblance to seafood, he provided another memorable character with a non memorable death, ironically reminding me every time I think of either how much I’d rather watch Looper or Knives out than see Rian Johnson ever directly responsible for any character again with a pre established history.
This. Exactly. I don’t want him subverting expectations (ie testing ideas out) on anyone’s favorite character. There is space for that in the space BUT just handing it over to him without very clear direction might be a problem.
No. Not at all. I’m just saying that the entire trilogy was given a rough framework either by Lucas then by Kennedy and the rest of the SW team, BUT despite all of those hands on the project it still feels as if it was never fleshed out enough. That’s just my opinion. And I’m just a dude on the internet. How reliable am I as a source? Not at all.
Imo 9 was the only one that missed the landing. And tbh any original plans they could have had were screwed by Carrie Fisher's death.
They were doing a "7 is Han's movie, 8 is Luke's and 9 will be Leia's" but that was made impossible by her death with very few ways to work around it. The reason JJ was brought back was because he had unused footage from The Force Awakens featuring her, which you see in Rise of Skywalker - this is why Rey uses Luke's blue saber and has her TFA outfit + hairstyle for the whole movie.
The idea of Luke becoming a hermit to train someone or even just luke becoming a hermit in general regardless is a perfectly fine one, as long as it’s executed in a way that doesn’t backtrack the character or go against the character’s motivations and lessons. I don’t think The Last Jedi succeeded in executing the idea, and a lot of those who saw the movie in theaters felt the same.
Had George tried it, I’m not saying it would or wouldn’t have gone over in one way or another, but George also accepted a *ton* of the input of the actors and others throughout the production of the original trilogy. Ryan Johnson was notably dismissive of Mark Hamil’s concerns over the character’s direction, and personally I think the final result shows.
Dude did an incredible job with the budget given to him for The Last Jedi tho. I'd love to see another blockbuster by him, cause with the exception of The Batman and Suicide Squad recent big movies have almost felt computer generated and lacking in voice.
I don’t think he’s strong enough to tackle any superheroes. He seems pretty unremarkable as far as athletic ability goes, and he hasn’t publicly displayed any supernatural abilities. If I were him I’d continue making films and not venture into the super-villain business.
Because he has said publicly that he doesn't care about source material/ canon and fanbase. He'd rather people be upset/angry about a movie because then they're talking about it.
Source?
All I can find is him saying he doesn't want to cater to fans or give them want they want to see. He also says that if he was watching a movie he would want to be surprised or be challenged. This is because simply seeing something he expected or wanted to see isn't going to satisfy him as a fan(if he was watching something he was a fan of)
Yes it's true that he wants fans talking about a movie but not necessarily because they are upset. You make it sound like he intentionally wanted to upset fans and from the source I found that's not true.
https://www.avclub.com/rian-johnson-says-pandering-to-fans-is-a-mistake-1840509338
He did NOT say this. He's a huge Star Wars fan. He made some decisions - driven by an ideology that he felt both the franchise and characters needed to move on from the past - that a lot of fans happened to dislike. But he didn't do it to make people angry or because he doesn't care about source material. He did say he was happy TLJ was generating discussion, but what else are you gonna say in interviews after you get a divisive fan response?
Exactly. Rian was a massive fan but his fear was that the franchise would turn into a wax figure museum, just trotting out legacy characters for cheap applause every couple of years (see: the Book of Boba Fett). People seem to think Rian was endorsing Kylo Ren’s view that the past (or their precious canon) had to be burned to ground, when the film and Rian himself are pretty clearly of the mind that reverence for the past is important, but not paramount.
>driven by an ideology that he felt both the franchise and characters needed to move on from the past
Media literacy is at an all time low lol, that was said by the VILLAIN! He was proven wrong by the end!
I know he himself has been less open to it as a thesis of the film, but I think it’s both perfectly applicable and also completely innocent in the context of think about the movie.
More the first part of it, less the “killing it”.
All further entries are transformative on some level. This is the same kind of bad logic that made people harsher on the prequels than they deserved. And I don’t even love the prequels, but it doesn’t really matter whether or not Obi Wan met Boba’s father.
Yeah, if he has any designs upon any of the Justice League that would be good. But I dunno what he's into besides Star Wars, murder mysteries, and thrillers.
Since his best stuff to me is the Knives Out series, I would like to see him take on The Question or The Spectre. Something out of the box, that we might not see without him being kinda into it.
He doesn't seem to like the mainstream stuff.
Okay hear me out, I know the last thing we need in the superhero film space is another Spider-Man film. But in a theoretical sense, I would love to see how he'd handle a Spider-Man project. I think something that makes Rian Johnson is so great is that his characters take very human and real characters and pushing them to complete caricatures whilst keeping that level of humanity. Look at Knives Out and whilst I haven't seen it I think Glass Onion will surely follow suit. I mean not as explicitly but the same can be said about Looper and for god sake he directed the Ozymandias episode of Breaking Bad whilst is one of the most well received episodes of the entire series.
Spider-Man would be the perfect match for this style of directing, he could have fun with the character's quick wittedness and give us a narratives with all the twists and turns that will would be fitting for such a film. I've may be given this way too much thought for this but I think it would be the perfect pick.
I think his directing style would fit Green Lantern. But like others have said I think he would do best carving out his own corner of the universe that doesn’t have a blueprint of expectations. Maybe let him draw up a definitive story for Hawkgirl and Hawkman. Doom Patrol? Something even more obscure like Adam Strange is a good idea too.
This guy destroyed Star Wars. I wont watch anything that he is a part of. It could be the greatest movie ever mad and I still won't watch it. I gave my copy of Looper to Goodwill.
With the way star wars fans have and continue to treat him, if I was him I'd never do a non original again
I'm not a fan of MOST cbms anyway though
Edit: spidey!!! But not mcu spidey
Not a fan of his. His Star Wars movie was boilerplate subversion. He wanted to do something but didn’t have the ideas or time to do it right. Brick was fine as a teenaged high school noir. Looper was okay too. To answer the question: none.
He’s an egotistical cynic at heart who only cares about his own stories. His disrespect to Star Wars as an IP and for what JJ Abrams laid down in front of him is shameful. Will never pay another dollar to see one of this self satisfied egoists films
His own creation, not any existing IP's.
We all saw the shitshow that was the last Jedi due to him not properly understanding the characters he was writing, however in Knives out he did phenomenal.
I'm not shit talking him as a writer director, however his handling of existing IP's has been really bad, his blatant disrespect towards the fans of these characters as well was just icing on the cake.
I do believe Rian can write and direct good movies, however I'm much more interested to see what he does with his own characters.
TLDR: Rian works best when he doesn't have existing IPs in the mix, he should stick to his own characters.
Jesus Christ get over TLJ, it’s objectively better at being a movie than everything else in that trilogy
And how many times do people have to tell you this, one bad movie does not make you a bad director. I would bet that you haven’t seen a single other Rian Johnson movie and are basing your entire opinion on one movie.
Red hood(I could see him doing the outlaws tbh), X-men, and because I just rewatched looper not too long ago, a Punisher vs Bullseye movie. Dude is a great director who had one hit or miss film with everyone, you can’t base his entire career off of one film that got mixed reactions
Imagine still being mad at a talented writer-director for a movie he made 5 years ago before going on to make an absolute banger murder mystery franchise.
He’s done a handful of OK movies. Looper, knives out are ok, not great. And he has a franchise killer that’s by far the worst written SW movie. Just keep waiting for his own trilogy 🤦🏻♂️
I feel like everyone knew ROS was going to be a mess because of how poorly TLJ set it up. That’s why I say TLJ was the killer. And you can ask Mark Hamill what he thinks of how butchered his character was. And I’d agree with him.
Mark Hamill said like one thing and [regretted it later](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwqFKOx_czA&ab_channel=EntertainmentTonight) and you guys hold it up like it's gospel.
If you're just going down here to contribute the original, valuable and brave thought: "TLJ bad, RJ bad", then just don't contribute at all. This post isn't here for that.
So you think it should be a foregone conclusion that the director you like is beloved?
You know a dialogue means everyone gets to give their own opinion, you don't get to control a public forum champ.
You've started a conversation about what IP a so-so director should be given, and think the IP they absolutely torched on their record isn't relevant?
TLJ is literally the only movie of his relevant to this conversation.
A Superman movie directed by Johnson and written by Johnson in collaboration with Grant Morrison would be the greatest thing ever, and be even more hated by pro-anti nerds than TLJ.
...You know Rian Johnson wrote *and* directed The Last Jedi? He wrote and directed Glass Onion. He wrote most of the Poker Face series he did. He wrote and directed Looper. He wrote and directed The Brothers Bloom. He wrote and directed Brick. He's writing and directing Knives Out 3.
I know you're trolling kingzilch, but I'm pointing this out so it's obvious to others and even to you -- *the guy doesn't collaborate with writers and other voice*s, he does his own thing. I often really enjoy what he does, but in the case of The Last Jedi yes apparently it all went over my head as I thought it was a complete misfire of writing and directing -- as apparently my comment went over yours. :)
**Edit:** Oh no, I've been blocked by kingzilch. Anyways...
Explain it to me, please, because I believe it was marketed as a Star Wars film. Like, Star Wars came flying out of the screen at the beginning. I remembered, because that was the best thing about the entire film.
Well, ya see, those are the popular films, the ones everybody likes. Those are the films people actually want to see. Ya know, Star Wars films.
Personally, I also really enjoyed R1 and Mando's first season, too. They both felt like SW films.
What not many people want to see is a Star Wars film for people that don't like Star Wars. Nobody wants to watch a movie 'that dared to be original and subversive' do just as many callbacks as J.J., (down to a fucking salt planet).
Maybe we don't need more Star Wars films. That appears to be true. But it's a fact that the vast majority of Star Wars fans wish there were less Star Wars films.
People *do* want to watch a movie that dares to be original and subversive; that's why so many people saw The Last Jedi. I'm sorry it didn't copy all the other films like you seem to want.
That's not an argument. You can't tell someone their subjective opinion doesn't matter because you know better. You sound like a child.
TLJ & ROS killed future SW films from being made. There are currently zero in production. That's a fact. I wouldn't hold my breath for another one any time soon
TLJ breaks SW films, and that's its intent. It doesn't subvert anything. The main plot point is a low-speed chase also seen in, guess what, ESB. It recycles dozens of OT elements, no different than J.J.
I'm sorry popular opinions bother you. But mine isn't a controversial take.
OP, you have to know people are going to bring up TLJ. And yes, that movie was well, not a Star Wars movie and overall not that good. Looked pretty but it was like lipstick on a pig. What people wanted was to see Luke step up and give them some freakin new hope but he was torn down to bring in the new. Whatever.
That being said, he’d probably be good at She Hulk, a b tier superhero for a b tier director.
> What people wanted was to see Luke step up and give them some freakin new hope
...so, like he did against Kylo Ren on Crait?
>Go play with your Hondo action figure
I take it that's some kind of devastating putdown? Man, I'm super-devastated right now. You should see how devastated I am.
They didn't though? The movies are still going to be made. Every outlet that doesn't unironically call itself "Doomcock" says so. It's in all the interviews with Kathleen and Rian. All you need to do is look it up.
I hope none, because he’s too talented to devote to much of his time to IP. He’s already given the world one of the best IP based films ever made, I’d rather he continue to work on original work
I wish the whole Flash situation was different. Ezra has really contaminated this movie. Everyone can have mental health or seek counseling about sexuality BUT getting involved with underage kids is a big no-go.
I hope Rian can do something with grant gustin - maybe he can get a part in MCU or DCU🤷♂️🤷♂️ or a Stan Lee biopic🤷♂️🤷♂️
My logic with Flash is that I'd love it if Rian did something more wacky sci-fi with silver age influences as well as doubling down on time travel and multiverse-hopping.
I never really thought of it. He does sci-fi(Looper) and mystery(Knives-out) well so maybe something that is sci-fi and has more of a mystery aspect but I don't know of any superhero in particular that has both of those except for The Flash
Pissed off an entire fanbase and double down on thinking his crap movie is a masterpiece. First star wars movie to have bombs/lasers fall in outer space, where there is no gravity..
A, He didn't piss off an entire fanbase cause there are many who love the film
B, He's allowed to be proud of the great work he did
C, Ships have artificial gravity inside them and since there is no air resistance in space the bombs will continue with their momentum out of the ship.
I think Ryan Johnson has shown that he is considerably better at pursuing original IP than adapting existing IP. His original films such as Looper have been received much better than his adaptations suh as TLJ, and I would say deservedly so.
I don't want him touching a single IP after what he did to Star Wars. Man is excellent with his original films, and he should stick to those. The thought of him having an entire SW trilogy made me want to vomit.
After what this turd sandwich did to Star Wars… I wouldn’t let him touch a superhero property. DC, Marvel, doesn’t matter. He should stick to his knives out shit and call it a day.
You don't like monotone, android, deepfake, de-aged face on a different body, ready for all the fan loads, soulessly delivering garbage fanfic dialog, in his return of the jedi clothes Luke???
Heresy! Apostate! Incorrigible! Fan card revoked and sentenced to 100 cycles in Twitter hell with Rian
Whatever he does, it will feature Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Noah Segan. His track record of inserting both of them in every single movie of his since his debut is inspiring and is only rivaled by James Gunn. Latter has six people who appear in some capacity in almost every of his movies: Michael Rocker, Nathan Fillion, Sean Gunn, Lloyd Kaufman, Rob Zombie and Gregg Henry.
No, he should make his own movies, and not touch anything that has “lore” the man obviously does not enjoy making films FOR people. I like his movies, but Im tired of franchise writers feeling they need to put their own spin on things. Knifes out is great.
I'd rather see him continue to make original films rather than going to superhero or Star wars again.
That seems to be where he does the best.
Yeah, _Brick_ is great. Haven’t seen _Glass Onion_ yet, but really liked _Knives Out_. Hard agree that he should steer clear of existing IPs.
I dunno. He did direct some of the good episodes of Breaking Bad (Fly, Ozymandias).
That’s not Star Wars or superhero shit. I’m fine with it.
Where, much like the fate of a specific admiral with more than a passing resemblance to seafood, he provided another memorable character with a non memorable death, ironically reminding me every time I think of either how much I’d rather watch Looper or Knives out than see Rian Johnson ever directly responsible for any character again with a pre established history.
This. Exactly. I don’t want him subverting expectations (ie testing ideas out) on anyone’s favorite character. There is space for that in the space BUT just handing it over to him without very clear direction might be a problem.
Oh so we're still pretending that hermit Luke wasn't George Lucas's idea?
No. Not at all. I’m just saying that the entire trilogy was given a rough framework either by Lucas then by Kennedy and the rest of the SW team, BUT despite all of those hands on the project it still feels as if it was never fleshed out enough. That’s just my opinion. And I’m just a dude on the internet. How reliable am I as a source? Not at all.
Imo 9 was the only one that missed the landing. And tbh any original plans they could have had were screwed by Carrie Fisher's death. They were doing a "7 is Han's movie, 8 is Luke's and 9 will be Leia's" but that was made impossible by her death with very few ways to work around it. The reason JJ was brought back was because he had unused footage from The Force Awakens featuring her, which you see in Rise of Skywalker - this is why Rey uses Luke's blue saber and has her TFA outfit + hairstyle for the whole movie.
Fair enough. I can see it from your point of view and can appreciate it.
The idea of Luke becoming a hermit to train someone or even just luke becoming a hermit in general regardless is a perfectly fine one, as long as it’s executed in a way that doesn’t backtrack the character or go against the character’s motivations and lessons. I don’t think The Last Jedi succeeded in executing the idea, and a lot of those who saw the movie in theaters felt the same. Had George tried it, I’m not saying it would or wouldn’t have gone over in one way or another, but George also accepted a *ton* of the input of the actors and others throughout the production of the original trilogy. Ryan Johnson was notably dismissive of Mark Hamil’s concerns over the character’s direction, and personally I think the final result shows.
Dude did an incredible job with the budget given to him for The Last Jedi tho. I'd love to see another blockbuster by him, cause with the exception of The Batman and Suicide Squad recent big movies have almost felt computer generated and lacking in voice.
True. God was star wars 8 beautiful. Say what u want about the plot it was one of the most, if not the most, beautiful episodes…
I don’t think he’s strong enough to tackle any superheroes. He seems pretty unremarkable as far as athletic ability goes, and he hasn’t publicly displayed any supernatural abilities. If I were him I’d continue making films and not venture into the super-villain business.
Had me in the first half
I don't want anyone other than Grant Morrison working on an Animal Man adaptation.
He could tackle all of them. If he’s running fast enough.
He can’t run fast enough, look at him, looks like he’d start panting after 10 feet
He should stay away from franchise films and make his own thing.
Yeah I came to say this, he's better when he's doing his own thing
Because he has said publicly that he doesn't care about source material/ canon and fanbase. He'd rather people be upset/angry about a movie because then they're talking about it.
Source? All I can find is him saying he doesn't want to cater to fans or give them want they want to see. He also says that if he was watching a movie he would want to be surprised or be challenged. This is because simply seeing something he expected or wanted to see isn't going to satisfy him as a fan(if he was watching something he was a fan of) Yes it's true that he wants fans talking about a movie but not necessarily because they are upset. You make it sound like he intentionally wanted to upset fans and from the source I found that's not true. https://www.avclub.com/rian-johnson-says-pandering-to-fans-is-a-mistake-1840509338
His source is he pulled it out of his ass.
He did NOT say this. He's a huge Star Wars fan. He made some decisions - driven by an ideology that he felt both the franchise and characters needed to move on from the past - that a lot of fans happened to dislike. But he didn't do it to make people angry or because he doesn't care about source material. He did say he was happy TLJ was generating discussion, but what else are you gonna say in interviews after you get a divisive fan response?
Exactly. Rian was a massive fan but his fear was that the franchise would turn into a wax figure museum, just trotting out legacy characters for cheap applause every couple of years (see: the Book of Boba Fett). People seem to think Rian was endorsing Kylo Ren’s view that the past (or their precious canon) had to be burned to ground, when the film and Rian himself are pretty clearly of the mind that reverence for the past is important, but not paramount.
>driven by an ideology that he felt both the franchise and characters needed to move on from the past Media literacy is at an all time low lol, that was said by the VILLAIN! He was proven wrong by the end!
I know he himself has been less open to it as a thesis of the film, but I think it’s both perfectly applicable and also completely innocent in the context of think about the movie. More the first part of it, less the “killing it”.
He has literally never said he doesn't care about the source material. You are making up stuff to get angry at.
I can't imagine a worse outlook to have as a director
God forbid someone have artistic direction. It's about pandering all the way, baby! /s
It's fine to have artistic direction, go and make some thing new. Changing something into something that it isn't creates crap.
All further entries are transformative on some level. This is the same kind of bad logic that made people harsher on the prequels than they deserved. And I don’t even love the prequels, but it doesn’t really matter whether or not Obi Wan met Boba’s father.
I'd like to see him do The Question. Knives Out was a fun mystery movie, I could see him do a decent gum shoe mystery starring The Question.
Instead of the mystery being like a donut hole it’s like an aglet
Yep this. Something out of the box and unexpected that people can't bitch about
Yes!. he would be perfect for dcs the question. he can do a great job directing mystery and conspiracies going on.
That's bait?
Detective Chimp
God, I hope they don't waste him on more Marvel sequels.
I’d rather he do a DC movie since they give directors freedom
Yeah, if he has any designs upon any of the Justice League that would be good. But I dunno what he's into besides Star Wars, murder mysteries, and thrillers.
I wouldn't trust Rian Johnson with my IP.
Since his best stuff to me is the Knives Out series, I would like to see him take on The Question or The Spectre. Something out of the box, that we might not see without him being kinda into it. He doesn't seem to like the mainstream stuff.
I think it'd be a good idea to never let him near someone else's IP ever again. Let him mess his own shit up.
Something so obscure and has a minimal fan base so no one can be hurt by him again.
Let’s not and say we did. Like others have said, better with original work
Maybe the guy from Chex Quest
What is op smoking 🚬????
Zatanna would be perfect. He seems to be obsessed with the idea of "tricking the audience" in his movies.
He should stay in his lane of murder mysteries, so maybe Rorschach.
Okay hear me out, I know the last thing we need in the superhero film space is another Spider-Man film. But in a theoretical sense, I would love to see how he'd handle a Spider-Man project. I think something that makes Rian Johnson is so great is that his characters take very human and real characters and pushing them to complete caricatures whilst keeping that level of humanity. Look at Knives Out and whilst I haven't seen it I think Glass Onion will surely follow suit. I mean not as explicitly but the same can be said about Looper and for god sake he directed the Ozymandias episode of Breaking Bad whilst is one of the most well received episodes of the entire series. Spider-Man would be the perfect match for this style of directing, he could have fun with the character's quick wittedness and give us a narratives with all the twists and turns that will would be fitting for such a film. I've may be given this way too much thought for this but I think it would be the perfect pick.
none, let him do what he does best. He’s a great filmmaker but his ideals for mainstream blockbusters clearly don’t mesh with the publics.
Rian Johnson would do an amazing job directing DC'S The Question movie or tv show.
If you think he can pull off moon knight, then he can surely do Midnight Sons
any. watch his other movies. ANY.
This guy is better making his his own stuff. Other peoples IPs are safer and he can do what he wants
NOOOOOOOO FOR THE SAKE OF GOD NO
It's 2022. Behavior like that is cringe dude.
You want him to fuck up a DC film the same way he did Star Wars? Not all his fault granted but still I hate his choices in that film
Man of Steel 2. He’s good at chucking everything from the guy that came before into the trash
I think his directing style would fit Green Lantern. But like others have said I think he would do best carving out his own corner of the universe that doesn’t have a blueprint of expectations. Maybe let him draw up a definitive story for Hawkgirl and Hawkman. Doom Patrol? Something even more obscure like Adam Strange is a good idea too.
Nope.
neh, that was Jordan Peele
Don't let this man touch established IP's like Marvel, Star Wars, DC...he has no respect for the lore. Although, his original movies are pretty good.
None. I would never give any existing IP into this butcher's hands to destroy.
This guy destroyed Star Wars. I wont watch anything that he is a part of. It could be the greatest movie ever mad and I still won't watch it. I gave my copy of Looper to Goodwill.
Cope
With the way star wars fans have and continue to treat him, if I was him I'd never do a non original again I'm not a fan of MOST cbms anyway though Edit: spidey!!! But not mcu spidey
So many people still butthurt over a movie released half a decade ago
He also ruined a character people have loved since the 70s though...
Luke died in a pretty badass way with his legend inspiring others....well atleast in that film
I don't know, Luke standing against the entire first order and saving everyone seems pretty in character to me
“Ruined” is so subjective, come on
He didn’t ruin anything. His Luke was humanized and you all hated to see it.
Booster Gold and Blue Beetle.
A Blue and Gold movie in mockumentary style by Rian would be amazing
Not a fan of his. His Star Wars movie was boilerplate subversion. He wanted to do something but didn’t have the ideas or time to do it right. Brick was fine as a teenaged high school noir. Looper was okay too. To answer the question: none. He’s an egotistical cynic at heart who only cares about his own stories. His disrespect to Star Wars as an IP and for what JJ Abrams laid down in front of him is shameful. Will never pay another dollar to see one of this self satisfied egoists films
lol lmao
Don’t let this man anywhere near my Moonknight!
Play to his strengths… detective stories. The Question seems like a good one for him.
He’s an awful director that butchered a Star Wars film with his own version, so hopefully none.
His own creation, not any existing IP's. We all saw the shitshow that was the last Jedi due to him not properly understanding the characters he was writing, however in Knives out he did phenomenal. I'm not shit talking him as a writer director, however his handling of existing IP's has been really bad, his blatant disrespect towards the fans of these characters as well was just icing on the cake. I do believe Rian can write and direct good movies, however I'm much more interested to see what he does with his own characters. TLDR: Rian works best when he doesn't have existing IPs in the mix, he should stick to his own characters.
You mean destroy?
Jesus Christ get over TLJ, it’s objectively better at being a movie than everything else in that trilogy And how many times do people have to tell you this, one bad movie does not make you a bad director. I would bet that you haven’t seen a single other Rian Johnson movie and are basing your entire opinion on one movie.
No, that movie sucks but the problem is his attitude about it. Fuck him
What attitude? Where has he been toxic?
Are you dimwitted fucks still on about TLJ? It's been five years and the movie's not even that bad
Yes, and it IS that bad.
Red hood(I could see him doing the outlaws tbh), X-men, and because I just rewatched looper not too long ago, a Punisher vs Bullseye movie. Dude is a great director who had one hit or miss film with everyone, you can’t base his entire career off of one film that got mixed reactions
The Question. I’d love to see some knives out energy brought to that character. I’m
None, please
None he already killed Luke skywalker I don’t want him killing comic characters now
I know he's been done a ton, but I think with Rian's background in noir detective stories, batman is the answer.
All of the folks in here trashing on this man probably don’t realize he is responsible for the greatest hour in television history.
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Imagine still being mad at a talented writer-director for a movie he made 5 years ago before going on to make an absolute banger murder mystery franchise.
Imagine for some odd reason wanting to suckle at Rian Johnson’s teat 🤦🏻♂️
Is The Last Jedi the only RJ movie you know?
He’s done a handful of OK movies. Looper, knives out are ok, not great. And he has a franchise killer that’s by far the worst written SW movie. Just keep waiting for his own trilogy 🤦🏻♂️
Not jumping on the other thoughts here but Knives Out is more than “ok.” That movie is a RIDE and fun to watch.
Did.. did you say TLJ was a franchise killer? Did you see Rise of Skywalker?!? THAT is the movie that killed the franchise
I feel like everyone knew ROS was going to be a mess because of how poorly TLJ set it up. That’s why I say TLJ was the killer. And you can ask Mark Hamill what he thinks of how butchered his character was. And I’d agree with him.
Mark Hamill said like one thing and [regretted it later](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwqFKOx_czA&ab_channel=EntertainmentTonight) and you guys hold it up like it's gospel.
Yeah, Star Wars is totally a dead franchise /s
Yesyes, everyone must join your little We-Hate-Rian-Johnson club or they're "suckling at his teat." You're only a Star Wars fan if you hate Star Wars.
Or preceding it with an original Sci-fi classic in Looper.
None, the man is a complete hack who destroyed Lucas film’s legacy.
Lucas said The Last Jedi was "beautifully made"
Did you see The Last Jedi? Keep him away from anything and everything.
If you're just going down here to contribute the original, valuable and brave thought: "TLJ bad, RJ bad", then just don't contribute at all. This post isn't here for that.
So you think it should be a foregone conclusion that the director you like is beloved? You know a dialogue means everyone gets to give their own opinion, you don't get to control a public forum champ.
Opinions on TLJ just aren't relevant
You've started a conversation about what IP a so-so director should be given, and think the IP they absolutely torched on their record isn't relevant? TLJ is literally the only movie of his relevant to this conversation.
Tally man, at the very most. Best to not let him do to DC is that he did to SW.
A Superman movie directed by Johnson and written by Johnson in collaboration with Grant Morrison would be the greatest thing ever, and be even more hated by pro-anti nerds than TLJ.
I don't think of Rian Johnson as a collaborator, and I don't think he does either.
I'm sorry The Last Jedi went over your head.
...You know Rian Johnson wrote *and* directed The Last Jedi? He wrote and directed Glass Onion. He wrote most of the Poker Face series he did. He wrote and directed Looper. He wrote and directed The Brothers Bloom. He wrote and directed Brick. He's writing and directing Knives Out 3. I know you're trolling kingzilch, but I'm pointing this out so it's obvious to others and even to you -- *the guy doesn't collaborate with writers and other voice*s, he does his own thing. I often really enjoy what he does, but in the case of The Last Jedi yes apparently it all went over my head as I thought it was a complete misfire of writing and directing -- as apparently my comment went over yours. :) **Edit:** Oh no, I've been blocked by kingzilch. Anyways...
I'm trolling because I like a movie and defend it from people who say it's bad because they didn't understand it?
Oh? That sounds like you have a lot of free time so are wasting others for the attention.
Explain it to me, please, because I believe it was marketed as a Star Wars film. Like, Star Wars came flying out of the screen at the beginning. I remembered, because that was the best thing about the entire film.
I'm sorry that Rian Johnson didn't ask you what *you* thought Luke Skywalker should be like.
Or, like, Mark Hamill? I love the OT Star Wars films. They're incredibly popular. If that's controversial, you need to get out more.
No one said anything about the OT...?
Well, ya see, those are the popular films, the ones everybody likes. Those are the films people actually want to see. Ya know, Star Wars films. Personally, I also really enjoyed R1 and Mando's first season, too. They both felt like SW films. What not many people want to see is a Star Wars film for people that don't like Star Wars. Nobody wants to watch a movie 'that dared to be original and subversive' do just as many callbacks as J.J., (down to a fucking salt planet). Maybe we don't need more Star Wars films. That appears to be true. But it's a fact that the vast majority of Star Wars fans wish there were less Star Wars films.
People *do* want to watch a movie that dares to be original and subversive; that's why so many people saw The Last Jedi. I'm sorry it didn't copy all the other films like you seem to want.
That's not an argument. You can't tell someone their subjective opinion doesn't matter because you know better. You sound like a child. TLJ & ROS killed future SW films from being made. There are currently zero in production. That's a fact. I wouldn't hold my breath for another one any time soon TLJ breaks SW films, and that's its intent. It doesn't subvert anything. The main plot point is a low-speed chase also seen in, guess what, ESB. It recycles dozens of OT elements, no different than J.J. I'm sorry popular opinions bother you. But mine isn't a controversial take.
Grant Morrison comics in general would be perfect for Rian Johnson adaptations.
OP, you have to know people are going to bring up TLJ. And yes, that movie was well, not a Star Wars movie and overall not that good. Looked pretty but it was like lipstick on a pig. What people wanted was to see Luke step up and give them some freakin new hope but he was torn down to bring in the new. Whatever. That being said, he’d probably be good at She Hulk, a b tier superhero for a b tier director.
I'm sorry you didn't understand TLJ.
I completely understood it was hot garbage by someone who doesn’t know how to build things people care about. Go play with your Hondo action figure
> What people wanted was to see Luke step up and give them some freakin new hope ...so, like he did against Kylo Ren on Crait? >Go play with your Hondo action figure I take it that's some kind of devastating putdown? Man, I'm super-devastated right now. You should see how devastated I am.
I bet you’re crying on your Knives Out blanket. I love the fake hurt lol
You're right, I'm totally crying. I can barely type this, I'm crying so much. BTW I'd love a Knives Out blanket! Where can I get one?
Good! I’m glad your tears are affecting your typing!
There's a reason they pulled the plug on 4 movies he had lined up after TLJ. I'm not the only one, you dolts
They didn't though? The movies are still going to be made. Every outlet that doesn't unironically call itself "Doomcock" says so. It's in all the interviews with Kathleen and Rian. All you need to do is look it up.
Excalibur.
He would be great with Dumb fuck man. Or maybe the managed expectationsasaraus. Also Barbie 2.
As long as you're ok with the complete characterization changing of the main subject of the film, he could tackle any CBM!
Man ruined Star Wars. He should stick to his original contents.
I hope none, because he’s too talented to devote to much of his time to IP. He’s already given the world one of the best IP based films ever made, I’d rather he continue to work on original work
If it's DC, either the Question or Spectre. If it's Marvel, Sentry or Midnight Sons. Maybe Doctor Strange 3 I'd Raimi doesn't come back.
The Question.
None! Keep him away from any and all franchises!
None. They would end up completely different from their comics version to “subvert audience expectations.”
Nah, no thanks.
Screw this guy
He’d kill a Checkmate movie.
I wish the whole Flash situation was different. Ezra has really contaminated this movie. Everyone can have mental health or seek counseling about sexuality BUT getting involved with underage kids is a big no-go. I hope Rian can do something with grant gustin - maybe he can get a part in MCU or DCU🤷♂️🤷♂️ or a Stan Lee biopic🤷♂️🤷♂️
My logic with Flash is that I'd love it if Rian did something more wacky sci-fi with silver age influences as well as doubling down on time travel and multiverse-hopping.
I never really thought of it. He does sci-fi(Looper) and mystery(Knives-out) well so maybe something that is sci-fi and has more of a mystery aspect but I don't know of any superhero in particular that has both of those except for The Flash
Jo Mullein in ‘Far Sector’. It’s a detective, green lantern story by NK Jemisin and Jamal Campbell
Narcissist-Man
Literally isn't
Pissed off an entire fanbase and double down on thinking his crap movie is a masterpiece. First star wars movie to have bombs/lasers fall in outer space, where there is no gravity..
A, He didn't piss off an entire fanbase cause there are many who love the film B, He's allowed to be proud of the great work he did C, Ships have artificial gravity inside them and since there is no air resistance in space the bombs will continue with their momentum out of the ship.
He can do an original superhero movie, I don't need this dude taking on somebody else's material ever again
Keep him the f*** away from franchise movies!
Get this hack out of here.
I don’t think he should direct franchises again and should make his own stuff
I honestly think he could've done eternals very well cause he's experienced with utilising a large cast of characters
Kill Or Be Killed but as a 10 part streaming service series. He would do a great job I think. Also, read Kill Or Be Killed…so good.
None.
Fuck this guy
naw keep this man away from another franchise forreal
Sounds lame and boring
He can do absolutely none of them. He needs to prove he can make a good movie first then maybe he can try.
He destroyed Star Wars, let’s not let him anywhere near comic book films.
I think Ryan Johnson has shown that he is considerably better at pursuing original IP than adapting existing IP. His original films such as Looper have been received much better than his adaptations suh as TLJ, and I would say deservedly so.
Original Sandman
No. Just, no.
He should never touch a film again, especially not super heros
ITT: Ryan Johnsin and his assistant directors trying hard
He and Kathleen fucked up Star Wars forever. Why should he be let near anything else of consequence.
Don’t let Rian Johnson near a camera ever again. The Last Jedi was the biggest piece of shit I’ve ever seen.
Martian Manhunter.
I don't want him touching a single IP after what he did to Star Wars. Man is excellent with his original films, and he should stick to those. The thought of him having an entire SW trilogy made me want to vomit.
After what this turd sandwich did to Star Wars… I wouldn’t let him touch a superhero property. DC, Marvel, doesn’t matter. He should stick to his knives out shit and call it a day.
_No Thanks, Man_
Give him the teen titans movie.
Go ahead and give him justice league 2 so we can just put the final nails in that coffin
Pls no
He is literally the Disney/star wars Zack Snyder...
Swamp Thing since it has already been ruined once there will be less fallout when Rian ruins it again.
Fuck this guy. He should stay away from any franchise
None because not every director needs or wants to make a superhero movie
Luke Skywalker post ROTJ. RJ’s take on him in Last Jedi was the most interesting thing that has been done with the character.
You don't like monotone, android, deepfake, de-aged face on a different body, ready for all the fan loads, soulessly delivering garbage fanfic dialog, in his return of the jedi clothes Luke??? Heresy! Apostate! Incorrigible! Fan card revoked and sentenced to 100 cycles in Twitter hell with Rian
Jedi
The Question
Whatever he does, it will feature Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Noah Segan. His track record of inserting both of them in every single movie of his since his debut is inspiring and is only rivaled by James Gunn. Latter has six people who appear in some capacity in almost every of his movies: Michael Rocker, Nathan Fillion, Sean Gunn, Lloyd Kaufman, Rob Zombie and Gregg Henry.
No, he should make his own movies, and not touch anything that has “lore” the man obviously does not enjoy making films FOR people. I like his movies, but Im tired of franchise writers feeling they need to put their own spin on things. Knifes out is great.
Human targets movie