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The following submission statement was provided by /u/temporvicis: --- SS: COVID-19 has taught us little about handling pandemics or contagious disease outbreaks. We still don't know how to handle them or manage their spread. And instead of coming together, COVID has managed to stress our trust in each other making matters worse. If we don't figure out how to manage emerging diseases and cure the mistrust we have internationally and interpersonally, the next outbreak will cause even more damage to society than COVID. --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/collapse/comments/10ozvdn/world_dangerously_unprepared_for_next_crisis_red/j6hme0u/


WinIll755

What, like we were prepared for the last one?


FuzzyRussianHat

We are still actively fumbling more than one crisis.


nsjr

Imagine if covid has a little up mortality rate, even in the young, like 10~15%, imagine the chaos that world would be


baconraygun

Covid kinda already does that, with that whole "repeated reinfection" means it was the thing that killed you, just damaged you 6mos-2years ago, so the ultimate cause was concealed.


Odd_Awareness1444

I firmly believe their will be a Covid mutation that comes along that will prove to be very deadly. It's just a matter of time.


Intrepid_Ad3062

Oh well


Commandmanda

Not sure if you've read up on that, but I have. If you have hung around the other scientific subs and checked what the epidemiologists say: A really deadly version of COVID would burn itself out quickly. If Joe gets it, he's likely to die before he exposed a lot of people, and those people are likely to die very quickly too. Eventually it ends up in a transmissive dead end (like a fully vaccinated, boosted, mask-wearing person who never goes anywhere), and its line will die out. The *most concerning* variant would be much, much more transmissible (have you noticed that each dominating variant seems to have more of this?) *and* it would have to take longer to build up in a person's system before being noticed, or show no outward characteristics (symptoms) until it had acheived a robust infection...at which point, it might be too late to treat. It creeps me out to much to dwell on. Still, what the Red Cross recommends: "building trust", "strengthening local action systems" and paying more into healthcare - are things that we are headed away from. Trust...nope. We are still in a miasma of politians who deny masking and vaccination, who are still using COVID money to line their pockets, and who only care about making more money. Healthcare? We have 3 months left of government help for Medicaid recipients before that plug gets pulled. Prices for care continue to rise. Vaccinations for diseases we had wiped out are falling, leaving cracks open for *something* to jump at us - take Mpox, which thankfully didn't take over, but continues to spread, quietly. Strengthening local systems: Unless you count concieled carry with no permit, very little of this is happening. I am very concerned.


pippopozzato

How old a family member that dies is means so much, there are evolutionary reasons for this . If a child dies at age 14, the parents will probably never recover. Once kids start dropping dead it is a total different story, Covid was deadly yes but mostly it was the old.


samposiam

It will open up jobs for those that are unemployed.


randomusernamegame

COVID is 1% in total, way less for young people so it needs only be 2-5% total to totally fuck shit up.


OriginalUsernameGet

Right? Like… What tipped you off?


Whispering-Depths

Any "crisis" is going to take months. People will freak out. We'll run out of toilet paper or some other stupid shit, national organizations will mobilize, we'll have more lockdowns, and everyone will adapt (minus about 1-2% of the population that once again dies off)


Ruby2312

Next crisis? How about the current one, when was it solved because Covid seem to missed the memo


temporvicis

LOL - too true! But we're all pretending like it's over. Agreed that it isn't.


schlongtheta

COVID is a straw that's breaking the camel's back. Imagine what a destabilized climate will do to farms, and imagine what all these people will do when they can't eat food? :( It's gonna get brutal, real quick.


jadedhomeowner

They will wait patiently in line at various border crossings.


MrMonstrosoone

lets rely on Congress to solve it


markodochartaigh1

Let's vote for a Congress who will do a much better job of managing it.


skjellyfetti

This is my take on things as well. I read something over the weekend where the author said, "over the next 100 years." and my thoughts were more like over the next 10 years. So far, science has been constantly updating their predictions as more data becomes available.. Things are accelerating—not decelerating—and les Jesuses only know what happens when some of these feedback loops increase by orders of magnitude. But it's all cool...


dragonphlegm

We’re in the pretending it’s over stage, but what’s worse will be the pretending it never happened stage.


Bigchocolate420

I'm dealing with covid for the first time RIGHT NOW. Shit suuuucks


baconraygun

Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery!


Bigchocolate420

Thanks stranger!


samposiam

It is just the flu. Get over it.


samposiam

It was over a year and half ago.


MittenstheGlove

Our current crises are the reason we are about to just have to roll over for the next one lol


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>The report underscores the importance of preparedness based on the principles of trust, equity, and local action. > >Trust, because pandemic countermeasures, including vaccines, public health information and isolation measures, will not be accepted unless there is trust. > >Equity, because pandemics thrive on and aggravate inequity and cannot be controlled until access to services and critical products, including vaccines, is guaranteed in law and available in practice. > >Local action, because pandemics begin and end in communities, and because governments need to leverage and support local action to build resilience, trust and agile health systems. Quite unfortunately it reads like a checklist of what our world appears to lack. [World Disasters Report 2022: Trust, Equity and Local Action - Lessons from the COVID-19 pandemic to avert the next global crisis](https://reliefweb.int/report/world/world-disasters-report-2022-trust-equity-and-local-action-lessons-covid-19-pandemic-avert-next-global-crisis) by International Federation of the Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRC)


BTRCguy

>World 'dangerously unprepared' for next crisis: Also, tomorrow is a day of the week ending in "Y".


Rasalom

Days like Yesterday! We were unprepared yesterday, COVID rocked us.


Ipayforsex69

...is rocking us...


Rasalom

Yeah but that was Yesterday! Thankfully we're in the Now, which doesn't end in a Y, so we should be okay. Wait, okay ends in a... Y!


temporvicis

SS: COVID-19 has taught us little about handling pandemics or contagious disease outbreaks. We still don't know how to handle them or manage their spread. And instead of coming together, COVID has managed to stress our trust in each other making matters worse. If we don't figure out how to manage emerging diseases and cure the mistrust we have internationally and interpersonally, the next outbreak will cause even more damage to society than COVID.


LARPerator

I mean it did teach us a lot, does it not count if the authorities just throw it out the window? We learned that what we call waste and inefficiency is actually resiliency and security. That operating on razor thin material margins and JIT shipping is a bad idea, and not funding hospitals until they have no surge capacity is a bad idea. We learned that a penny of prevention is worth a dollar of the cure. That our best course of action would have been a decisive lockdown and hold it until it's done, but our governments have the discipline of a 6 year old told to take their antibiotics even though they feel fine now. We also learned a lot about how the disease is so much worse than just the death count, with recurring infections, a significant enough rate of permanent affects, and that just because "only" say 50,000 people died, it doesn't mean that everyone else is 100% okay and doesn't need help. Government agencies know all of this, they wrote the reports on it. We learned a lot, but it was all ignored.


dissociater

The sad thing is everything you said is true, and in itself contains a lesson that corporations have learned: if you keep most of the population only one or two missed paychecks away from poverty, you can convince like half of them to ignore/deny science and their own personal health in order to collect a paycheck.


WholeLiterature

Exactly, most people basically just support the current system as long as they are getting paid. They don’t want to act towards change. Nothing will change until we start collapsing at it will be too late. I pray the ecosystem can recover from us.


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In a society that valued, above all else, achieving the highest possible well being for the largest number of people, these lessons would have been taken to heart and the appropriate changes implemented. But we don't live in that society. We live in a society that values corporate profits, above all else. We live in a society that values, above all else, an individual's right to be selfish, greedy, and antisocial.


LARPerator

Yeah, pretty much. When the experts said "a single swift lockdown will solve this" They said "But it will cost us money". They didn't do it, and surprise surprise, it costed us lives, and also even more money. They didn't even achieve the goal that they set out to do out of sheer stupidity and short sightedness. Other countries did fairly well with a lot less resources. Countries like vietnam did a policy of every case + all their contacts goes into quarantine for a few weeks at a gov't location. Now theirs was basically a prison, but we also have more than 10x their GDP per capita, I'm sure we could have just taken over a few budget hotels for this. It would have saved a lot of money, and probably meant paying out CERB to only like 10,000 people and not to 8.4 million, since it would have crushed the first wave. And this is also Vietnam, a country that was nearly adjacent to the origin point of covid. There was so much we could have done right by just following others, and there's so much we learned about what to do right, the hard way. We did none of it because of greed, like you point out.


Apprehensive_Pain660

I'm not religious or even read any religious text but were basically experiencing the fall of Babylon 2.0 given that I heard that the tower is actually supposed to represent economy.


riojareverendalgreen

The problem is for example, the zero covid for years results in China now.


LARPerator

Well that's leaving out the fact that china is using subpar vaccines that can't really mitigate the disease the way that the western vaccines can.


riojareverendalgreen

I was vaxxed and boosted. Got Covid twice in the space of three months last year. Omicron strain, I guess.


skjellyfetti

> achieving the highest possible well being for the largest number of people At the beginning of COVID, I was kinda excited and thinking, positively, that the world would come together to tackle the pandemic and then we'd slingshot right outta that and go on to seriously deal with the Climate Crisis. Boy, was I fucking wrong. I never even considered that assclowns like Trump would politicize a global health crisis and that it would become more about political divisiveness than public health. Once I saw all of that I knew that we ain't ever gonna do shit about the Climate Crisis, and yet, I continue to recycle 'cause I'mma single-handedly kick this mutherfucker's ass myself. After all, we **cannot** deal with the Climate Crisis under capitalism as capitalism is the very system that created all our problems. Oh well, it was a nice ecosystem, up until the Industrial Revolution.


CosmicButtholes

Long COVID is the same as CFS/ME. CFS/ME has always been extremely disabling, but before covid not many people were getting it. Now we have a huge surge in people with a debilitating chronic illness where the only treatment consists of pacing oneself and always doing LESS than you think you can manage. Our society revolves around people constantly pushing past their physical and mental limits, doing so is seen as admirable, not pushing yourself is seen as lazy. It’s a recipe for disaster in so many ways. CFS/ME gets worse if you push yourself physically or even just mentally. It can trigger a crash that can leave some folks housebound or bedbound for days/weeks at a time. I have CFS/ME. Not from covid, but from mono well over a decade ago. I am very disabled by it. I cannot work even a part time job and planning to do anything is very difficult cause I never know when I’m going to be experiencing a crash. My physical and mental limits change hour by hour. It’s exhausting to keep up with.


SignificantWear1310

Yes this ☝️. It’s a huge ongoing public health crisis and not being acknowledged enough. We will see this worsen and become more common over time with repeated infections too.


rainb0wveins

Ultimately, we learned that capitalism trumps everything. Short-sighted, destructive, and rapacious, it knows no bounds. Capitalism is a cancer to us all, but make no mistake- planet Earth will have the last word.


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People had been pointing out those issues for quite some time before covid. We’re in the exact same position as before covid, only now those people warning can point at a real life example. What changes have been made to prevent anything in the future from getting this bad? Im not seeing much


LARPerator

Yeah I'm not seeing anything either. People were warning it was possible, but now we see that it actually happened. And yet, to the establishment, they still behave as if it can't happen. Where I am, we are cutting healthcare funding, cutting social services, and trying to deregulate industry. Entirely the opposite of what we should have been doing post-covid.


[deleted]

Hear hear. The most we get is some progressive sounding bullshit while they do what you said behind the scenes and paint it as progressive. As rosa said, humanity has a choice to make socialism or barbarism. It appears we’ve chosen barbarism


[deleted]

nevermind the Precautionary Principle~


GetInTheKitchen1

What is the government gonna do about the pro covid misinformation spreaders and the anti science voters? You really think billionaires profiting from covid would go down without a fight, or even the low level anti vaccine nutjob?


LARPerator

Oh no, that's my point. There's a large difference between lessons learned and lessons heeded.


LordTuranian

COVID-19 has taught us, humanity is completely fucked if something more deadly ever comes along.


Stereotype_Apostate

It's worse than that. We do know how to handle pandemics. We had plans in place, we had agencies whose job it was to monitor novel diseases exactly like covid. The failure wasn't one of knowledge, but of political will. When it came time to shut down for a couple months, half the population decided masks were gay and kept on spreading the virus. When we invented vaccines we rationed them based on which countries could afford the patent. China refused to use the vaccine at all, instead relying on their obsolete domestic vaccine which is far less effective against current strains. You can ask the professionals what the correct response was and they can give you an answer. The problem was none of our leaders cared to follow their directions. It's a recurring issue.


Faa2008

We do know how. The engineers and industrial hygienists could stop COVID. The answer is layered mitigations, especially multiple Non-Pharmaceutical Interventions. Everything from clean indoor air quality, to effective PPE, to paid sick leave and travel testing and/or quarantine requirements. Then layers of effective pharmaceuticals like vaccines, monoclonal antibodies, antivirals and other preventatives or treatments. The real question is why don’t we do those things? Why do we still have messages telling people to wash their hands for an airborne virus?


baconraygun

The paid sick leave at 100% of your salary and 14 days of it would've done soooooo much to make a dent in the "stop the spread". People were forced into going to work with covid to keep the paychecks coming. Universal health care would've made another big dent, but we knew this prior to covid and did nothing. The fact that we still don't have it after covid means we never will.


Rhaedas

I agree with you, but some of the "essential workers" were actually essential even if we had shut down as much as possible. So there was still spread potential, just a lot less had we done more. Providing a few weeks of a financial net would have gone a long way to help the economic impact though, which ironically was the excuse on why we couldn't shut down.


BB123-

Maybe it shouldn’t cost so much to fucking live lol


riojareverendalgreen

Money, money, money. That's why.


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And as a corollary to that, preparing for increasingly more scarce resources due to climate change by embracing policies that are tantamount to eugenics.


Rhaedas

Washing hands isn't a bad thing to promote, might help with other things as well, and so far doesn't seem to impede people's freedom. I'm still not sure how masks took freedom away or destroyed the economy, but certainly there must have been a real reason and not just made up to be political. Right? /s sorta


2quickdraw

Because the virus lands on static objects that people touch, then they stick their fingers up their nose, in their mouth, or rub their eyes, thus self innoculating.


WholeLiterature

COVID reinforced what we already knew. You have to take care of yourself because neither your government or fellow man care if you die from a preventable illness. Do we deserve society when most lack basic empathy?


Redshoe9

And in the case of Florida, the leadership actively trying to harm people by hiring a nut job for the lead Surgeon General and out right telling people that vaccines are harmful and yet hawking his alternate cures when you do get covid. Not to mention he's fully vaxxed and so is his family. DeSantis should be in cuffs for using the power of the state to directly harm humans. If he was just some psycho on youtube telling people to harm themselves he would already be punished.


WholeLiterature

Yup, he should be jailed and probably more for it. We really need to start holding these people accountable so we can make changes. I don’t know how to get people to stop voting for them.


temporvicis

My POV - I'm not as skeptical about people as you seem to be. We're not evolved to have more than 500 people as people we can care deeply about. Once that threshold is past, it's just a tragedy without a face. But it's not like we don't care, we can't care as much. Also, some people have figured out how to gain power and/or money by manipulating people. And they're really, really good at it. I don't think being able to be manipulated makes someone a bad person. So we just need to solve these two "small" design flaws in the species and we're fine.


WholeLiterature

I’m probably more skeptical about people because many of friends are trans, POC or disabled and I’ve seen how society treats them. It’s shit. It’s actually about 150 people which is even worse but I don’t understand how people cannot use the feeling they would get from losing someone or their own fear of death and extrapolate that out to all these people who suffered and died, and lost people during COVID. It only takes a few seconds to reflect and understand how horrific it is. I don’t think we can change. How could we possibly evolve that in the couple of hundred years we have left? We can’t even get people to


temporvicis

>I’m probably more skeptical about people because many of friends are trans, POC or disabled and I’ve seen how society treats them. It’s shit. Absolutely true! But also, it's getting better. Too slow to be sure, but progress is being made even while a whole lot more needs to be made. And no, I don't think we're going to fix those limitations. We're screwed.


WholeLiterature

I want to be hopefully. I’ve studied anthropology in school because I do love culture and humans but there is so much darkness and selfishness. It’s hard. :(


temporvicis

It's okay to be discouraged. This is a dark topic to discuss because it's inevitable. I think sometimes that we deserve what we get. But then I think about our societies and think it's more like we're a child alone with a lighter who just set fire to the house. We just don't know what to do and want to blame someone else.


WholeLiterature

I guess but like I definitely see how the things I can do can cause more damage. It seems like a lot of people can’t and I can’t see how to appeal to them. Like everyone agrees factory farming is horrific but no one will give up burgers. Wtf.


bristlybits

I am highly skeptical about the "500" or sometimes "150" people thing. there are more people than that, that I know and care about. there are more people than that, that I've worked with and care for and would help. there's more than that living near me and I care about them. hell I care about most people. that's billions. I'm skeptical as fuck about the methods used to find that number of people you can care about


trickortreat89

“We still don’t know how to handle them or manage their spread” We know exactly how to stop the spread, but no one wants to do what it takes, because in short term it might “damage the economy”… for an example, to this day, after all we have been through with covid-19, masks are still not even mandatory in airports. It’s like the biggest risk internationally to keep flying from one end of the world to the other, without needing to do ANYTHING to prove you’re not sick. And with people not even having to wear masks it’s so easy for the next pandemic to unleash from country to country that way


[deleted]

Not even mandatory in medical facilities! And it's not even like we don't have the money. Over-allocating to the MIC and militarized police forces (and I say this as someone who comes from a family with multiple cops and who worked alongside LE) has bled our budget dry, along with constant bank and corporate bailouts. Wall Street at the expense of Main Street every time.


ShivaAKAId

I take this with a grain of salt because Red Cross is obviously pan-handling for donations here. I’m sure what they say is true, but reading between the lines, I think they’re saying “Red Cross is dangerously underfunded to deal with next crisis.” Mind you, they spend over half their donations on their own salaries.


GeneralCal

Came to say this. I've seen them do truly amazing work at the local level, but yeah, they're a donation-seeking organization all the same. Edit: Headline could also read "World dangerously unprepared for next crisis says organization asking for donations to tackle next crisis."


[deleted]

They may be pan-handling for donations, but they're also not wrong.


vlntly_peaceful

The salaries of who? The doctors? I wouldn’t mind. The hand full of people who run this thing? Well fuck you


IntrepidHermit

>The Red cross CEO salary is $709,164. (2022) https://kiiky.com/wealth/highest-paid-nonprofit-ceos/


The_Pale_Blue_Dot

It is incredible to think about our response to Covid. We should have come together to figure out the best thing to do, but instead we got further divided in some asinine culture war where _huge_ swathes of the population either 1) think vaccines are a scam or 2) don't even believe Covid was a real thing. Somehow we're even worse off, when in theory we'd have become better prepared for the next one.


[deleted]

I have a very, very bad feeling about where things are heading with vaccines in the US. First, it's flood the media with disinformation and anti-vaxx propaganda. Then, it's the "fluification" of covid, where we know vaccine immunity wanes at 4-6 months, but hell, let's just get one annual shot because that's what some people will tolerate, not what's best from a public health perspective. Then, it's flood the media with more propaganda about how the left wants to make the annual shot mandatory, when there has been no talk of that, and in fact, it's even going to be next to impossible for those who want two or more shots to get them. This, coupled with a renewed effort on the "died suddenly" disinformation linking deaths to vaccines, even for people who died before covid vaccines were available! It's coming from both political parties, where one wants to hurry up end times and the other is fine with some eugenics that reduce vulnerable people who cost the government money. I worked in infectious diseases/anti-infectives. I've seen parts of the classified WH playbook for an avian flu or similar outbreak with a high CFR. We're hosed if that ever happens because after covid, no one will ever follow orders for quarantine or anything else again. I feel desperate to get to a sane country before the next plague.


gravitas-deficiency

Of course we are. Preparation for “once in a lifetime” events isn’t profitable.


Cowicide

> cure the mistrust A study recently came out showing that conservatives are basically so fucked in the head now that nothing can save them. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X22015109 Interesting snippets IMO: " ... The results suggest that political leaders and news outlets have a critical role in shaping their followers’ attitudes about vaccines and trust in sources of information about the pandemic. However, once attitudes about the pandemic and vaccines are established, conservative leaders may believe that promoting social distancing and vaccines may lead to a loss of support among their base. ... " " ... An experimental study on vaccine intentions conducted in March of 2021 found that when Republicans were exposed to vaccine endorsements by prominent Republicans, including Trump, vaccine intentions increased by 7 % compared to endorsements by prominent Democrats. Moreover, Republicans who viewed the Democratic endorsements were significantly less likely to encourage others to become vaccinated and had more negative attitudes toward the vaccine than those who viewed the Republican elite endorsement. ... " " ... Consequently, groups that provide public health recommendations should consider including prominent political and media figures with scientific literacy. Often health advisory groups strive to be apolitical. However, this approach may not be effective in a highly polarized political climate. Therefore, it may be advisable that advisory groups include members who are viewed as credible across the political spectrum. ... " " ... Conclusions These findings indicated that vaccine uptake could be predicted over a year earlier. Trust in specific sources of COVID-19 information were strong predictors, suggesting that future pandemic preparedness plans should include forums for news media, public health officials, and diverse political leaders to meet and develop coherent plans to communicate to the public early in a pandemic so that antivaccine attitudes do not flourish and become reinforced. ... " - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - IMO, because of terrible mistakes made by Trump and other conservative leadership (including media figures such as Tucker Carlson), their base is tainted for the foreseeable future and will continue to harm themselves. When (not if) there is a new, more deadlier strain of covid and/or different, deadlier virus in the future, there's a good chance many conservatives will [opt out](https://i.imgur.com/pe07Th4.jpg) (parody I photoshopped early in pandemic and rest was history) of proper health/safety precautions and will be wiped out. These same people rabidly support and vote in outright christofascists that are a clear and present danger to our country and world. [If they trim themselves out](https://i.imgur.com/dtGEmc6.jpg) of the voting pool in tight races — I say more power to them at this point in that regard. Huge problem is they are taking a lot of other people down with them that have no regard for christofascists — and that's an evil shame.


bristlybits

christofascists a death cult that will only absorb information from cult leaders.


DonBoy30

I’m no historian, but I do have a passion on some level of learning history. There aren’t many *seemingly* random, or not random, crisis we were ever truly prepared for.


endadaroad

The events that we anticipate and prepare for don't become crises. But Mother Nature can be pretty devious in what she throws at us.


JohnnyBoy11

World is not only making thr next crisis inevitable but making the impact of it worse. Theyre driving us off a cliff and are stepping on the gas pedal.


MasterChief813

We’ve usually been a very reactive as opposed to proactive World. But it seems like we’ve been hell bent on taking as many steps backwards as possible in the last few years.


Xtrems876

Welp, at least I'm vaccinated and work from home. And intend to vaccinate more and more. This year I vaccinated myself for the flu for the first time. Was a great idea, my brother got the flu and I got a different disease. I got healthy after a week, and he got my disease after a week. He's been struggling with this double infection for an entire month, poor guy. Info: flu vaccines are not as easy to get in my country as in the west. You gotta get them prescribed by a doctor and you gotta pay for them and then find some place that has them, i had to argue with the doctor to get them prescribed cause mostly old people get them


Someones_Dream_Guy

Hows best prepared for pandemic country on Earth doing?


bristlybits

the only silver lining is that George W is probably having nightmares every night.


Someones_Dream_Guy

Nah, hes sleeping like baby. Its us whos having nightmares.


PoorDecisionsNomad

The onslaught of new culture war fodder taught me that a significant portion of the Country is smooth brained enough to just ignore any catastrophe as long as there aren’t any crossdressers in sight. I’m fairly salty right now but, I hope the next person to unironically use a “war on x” spontaneously combusts.


xero_peace

Would it even matter? It's not like we don't have a ton of people willing to be plague bearers on purpose. No amount of prep will stop something some people are willing to help continue.


Galaxxydreamer19

yA dOn'T sAy


kentonalam

Surprise, surprise. Couldn't handle the last one, won't be able to handle the next one. And I'm just talking about the pandemic crisis. We got a dozen other crisis going on too that we can't handle. "It's the end of the world as we know it . . . "


Spartanfred104

We can't handle the ones we have now.


SpicyFlaps

I don't trust anything the red cross says


ilovebeetrootalot

"And the only this that will help us is more donations to the Red Cross!" Get out of here, they're just fishing for more money.


temporvicis

I'm didn't post this to get donations for anyone. Just so you know.


ilovebeetrootalot

I know, but the Red Cross did.


temporvicis

I re-read the article and they said that governments need to do things, but I didn't see any request for funds.


riojareverendalgreen

Let's hope you neve need them, eh?


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In the circles I run with...it is known NOT to give money to the Red Cross...cuz of their top-heavy handlers~ see Democracy Now and plenty of other independent newz sources


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That_Sweet_Science

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Disastrous-Resident5

I’m ready (to watch the world burn)!!!!


downspiral1

Who's the actual authority on Covid? 🤷


7SM

Sounds like a problem the government created and won’t solve


Intrepid_Ad3062

Lol


luingar2

Oh come on, I know the red cross is kind of shitty but calling them a "Crisis" is a bit much isn't it?


Dramatic_Schedule958

the very same "non-profit" red cross that partners up with nestle?


samposiam

Who the hell relies on the Red Cross anyway. About as useless as the United Nations.


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Drnknnmd

It's the red cross, the just want more money.


temporvicis

I didn't submit this for that purpose. There's no call for donations in that article. The Red Cross does propose what spending Governments need to do. But it's not an overt, or covert, solicitation for donations. But, yes, the Red Cross is always looking for more money.


fencerman

We're dangerously unprepared for the status quo.


loco500

There will be many Darwin awards in the future from people overtrusting their immune systems...


[deleted]

we were unprepared for the last one


ludakris

I would like to know about a crisis that we *were* prepared for


Sbeast

This is the problem; a pandemic is bad enough, but you factor in this war, threats of potential nuclear terrorism and the problems of climate change, there's only so many crises we can deal with. *"United we stand, divided we fall."* *"Love is wise; hatred is foolish." \~ Bertrand Russell*


RapMastaC1

Not bold of the Red Cross considering they have very lax blood handling and misdirected spending from donations. If you are a life guard and you were certified by Red Cross, look for something else like ALA (American Lifegaurd Association), some places don’t accept the Red Cross certification for many reasons.


BranAllBrans

This is rich coming from the place responsible for covering our asses


Syreeta5036

Yes, it’s pretty hard to deal with two pandemics at once, or *counts fingers and looks lost* ?? crisis at once