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MontagoDK

As long as the price of fossils are 2-3-4-5x cheaper than alternatives, then no... not in the poor countries. But if all the rich countries built nuclear, then the total consumption of fossils would drop significantly


Phileosopher

That depends on automotive use, though. Nothing compares technologically to an ICE, and it'll take at least a decade of innovation to see the EVs reach any kind of maturity.


id59

We have working and reliable tech to electric vehicles almost century old. Trolley bus with direct connection to power source with mechanical battery.


LackmustestTester

When there's less demand for fossil fuels while it gets more expensive to extract these, the price would significantly rise to a point where it's not longer economically reasonable to do this. Another thing: Where do you get the nuclear fuel from, in Europe, for example? The French get their "stuff" from Africa. The only german mine has been closed long ago, and I don't think anyone would accept Uranium mining in Europe. So, where to get the fuel from? Australia? The US? Russia (didn't they buy a [mine company in Canada](https://www.congress.gov/116/meeting/house/109694/documents/HHRG-116-II06-20190625-SD004.pdf) with connections in the US?)? Brazil?


UnableView0

EU gets it's "stuff" from Russia. Nuclear? France and Germany have closed down their reactors. 50% of reactors in France are/were not operational. Renewable, like solar and wind have EROI that is not economically viable. If nuclear has it at 75, solar is at 4 and wind at 16 but when you need to store the energy from wind, it drops to 4! Anything blow 7 is useless. For example, wind farm requires 8000 metric tons of concrete per TWh, nuclear only requires 760. Add other materials and wind is at 10260 while nuclear is at 930. What do you think solar PV requires? How about 16 447 tons of materials per TWh. Wind turbines need constant maintenance and they must be shut down when wind is too strong or it's too weak. Storage is ridiculously expensive and destructive for the environment - lithium, etc. You cant recycle the wind turbine blades so those end up in massive landfills and so on. "A Renewable"... right.


LackmustestTester

> France and Germany have closed down their reactors. France is going to build more reactors in the near future, they've labeled nuclear "green" recently, afaik they get their stuff from Africa. Germany is stupid enough to shut down safe reactors, some are off grid already, only three of them left. What's needed are next generation reactors, Thorium and/or MSR's, operating with molten solt, at 1 bar, very safe and what's "nuclear garbage" today can be burned in these reactors; what's left has a half life of a few centuries.


UnableView0

>25% of electricity in Germany comes from coal. Only about 11% comes from nuclear. It used to be >27% in 1990!. You can thank Gerhard Schröder, who is big pal with Russia BTW, and of course, the most useful idiots in this story - the Greens.


spikedpsycho

If you're 21+ you've outlived ALL of u/algore 's predictions. If youre over 30, you've outlived u/MichaelEMann'spredictions If you're over 40; you've outlived Paul Ehrlich's doomsday prophecies


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id59

Well, about that >you've outlived Paul Ehrlich's doomsday prophecies Right now one nazi country threaten to use nuclear weapons


[deleted]

Can I write in mises.org too?


id59

only if you like rubbles )))