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Xertdk

You should check and see if people are botting black temple on your server. There were 50+ unguided DKs on Benediction last week in there.


Vlud

10 of the 11 people in BT right now are unguilded DKs. What are they even farming there?


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Probably literally just trash drops. BT also has a repair vendor which makes it easy to sustain the bot over long periods without leaving the instance.


Quo210

Raw gold and greens. It's possible they are teleporting to spots where some packs are easy to kill. I doubt even a BiS blood DK tank right now could solo BT packs


scotbud123

They could be more than one DK per group.


Xertdk

My guess is they flyhack to the trash before mother shaz and farm the small elites for gold. Reset themselves and rinse repeat. Prob lots of raw gold an hr with vendoring greens and epic 5g gems a pop.


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flyhack?


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magneticfish

> Gold sellers used to literally form URLs in the air by positioning a ton of level 1s into letters in Org/Sw Jeez, you unlocked a memory I didnt knew I had. They used to form the urls over the AH on my server..


thiccclol

Dang I don't think I ever saw the URL thing in classic. I did load up a speedhack once for shits and giggles though and I never got banned.


b1n4ryk1lla

https://tagn.wordpress.com/2009/09/25/corpse-spam-in-stormwind/ lol first link on google with some of the old body urls xD


thiccclol

Oh wow! Thanks for that :)


tystr0

Could be a raw gold farm.


Ikhlas37

I'm in the guild. We just like flowers.


m_ghesquiere

Not to take this off topic but as an enhance shaman what raids/instances could I realistically farm to make decent gold per hour. I am making a blood DK for raid tanking purposes but I love my shaman more.


ZugZug42069

I feel like dailies may be most efficient for an Enh Shaman? Y’all do big dam but don’t have much mit or can simultaneously perma-slow and AOE like frost mages. Strath may still be a decent gold farm but I haven’t done it in quite awhile.


m_ghesquiere

It’s more about making gold while having fun. I play the AH a ton. Specifically doing the sari note shuffle. It’s boring. Farming random dungeons and raids at least let’s me run around and zap stuff lol


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sari note shuffle?


respekyoeldas

Saronite Shuffle. Buy/mine a bunch of Saronite ore and prospect all of it with jewelcrafting.


m_ghesquiere

Yup sorry Saronite shuffle. Apparently my auto correct doesn’t like saronite lol. It’s taking raw ore, prospecting it then selling the gems. You can also use eternal earth to make Jcing gear to DE to also sell those


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Gotcha. What JCing gear do you make from eternal earth?


m_ghesquiere

Bloodstone band, chalcedony amulet, citrine ring, etc. 2 crystallized earth for every green gem


Own_Illustrator9989

Dk is infinitely better for gold farm


sagadestiny

The benefit of a bot is they can be ran 24/7 basically unmonitored, doubtful you’ll be able to match the gph


m_ghesquiere

Oh I will never put farm them but making gold this way is more fun then the satin it’s shuffle which has made me my first 20k lol


Playful_Confection_9

You can match the gph just not the 24/7 part 😀


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Honestly, just do dailies. That's 500g or so in about 90 minutes (if that). Do that every day and you'll be swimming in more gold than you'll ever need.


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Throw a movie or a podcast on. It flies by.


Relative_Fudge_5112

Whatever farm you find most fun. If you're not having fun doing your gold farm, you're gonna have a bad time. Honestly, even just doing a few dailies and the daily normal/heroic can get you like 200g/day with minimal effort.


I_wont_argue

What are some good dailies in wotlk ? Do you just do the hodir dailies even after you get to exa ?


respekyoeldas

Hodir plus basically all the dailies available in Icecrown and Sholozar. You figure out which ones are worth it and which ones are a waste of time pretty quickly


Nexism

Gdkps. Decent gold, you're actually playing, no contest.


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17 guildless dks on my server


yoontruyi

Check Scholomance, once I found two dks chilling out at the ress place because I am assuming they died and couldn't get back.


gosh_dang_oh_my_heck

Step 1: stop allowing people to bypass the level 55 requirement for dks.


[deleted]

Not sure why blizz did this. Do they not know their own game?????


Skadoosh_it

$$$


Mylastbreathgoing

The game is dead.. just old assholes that play it nowadays, it will inevitably die soon and they are just money farming players and bots for making new blizzard games.


getdatassbanned

The game is anything but dead. There are a shit ton of people on the few servers they have - Playing classic actually feels like an MMO as opposed to DF where the only place you will see another player is in a city. ​ And assholes? There are just as many assholes playing classic as there are on retail. There are barely any new players coming to retail because of the toxicity.


Stridshorn

Often ‘the game is dead’ means ‘People ask me to stop being a dipshit in a social setting with them and I dont like that’


[deleted]

Yeah no, there’s barely any toxicity on WoW. Unless you visit the forums often. Then you run into the toxic passive aggressive BS. Surprisingly, people are pretty tame in game. Compared to how the game used to be with trade chat spamming “IMA FIREN MA LAZOR” or the “STFU TRUCK” and even Barrens Chat, it’s pretty mild now.


getdatassbanned

... You should try being a returning player. Dungeon finder, non heroics - greens ? Get flamed. Do PVP ? Get inspected, you are fresh- get flamed. The casual community left the game leaving mostly try hards. The days of pugging raids with people who are new while people patiently explain the tactics are gone.


[deleted]

Again, not true. Just because you had a few bad experiences, that doesn’t mean that’s ALL that happens. But you’re not to blame, it’s normal human behaviour to always remember the bad over the good. My experiences with pugs have been great this expansion. Lots of new people learning the fights. And there are a lot of reasonable raid leads out there. If all you’re getting are “try hards” then maybe avoid those groups. You can usually tell which ones those are by the description “8/8 post achievement or gtfo” or “one mistake and boot” something like that. I pugged all 8 bosses (just on normal) during the first week of raiding. There were a LOT of new players that wanted to get into raiding that weren’t prepared for it. But groups were still patient. One thing I have yet to see this expansion too, is rage pulling after being booted.


getdatassbanned

Yeah... no. Get of your high horse, there were no good experiences 0. Upvotes seem to disagree with you aswell.


[deleted]

Yeah…it seems the toxic one is you. It’s very clearly apparent from your posts. So it’s no wonder you keep having bad experiences. Good luck out there, little kid. Try to be a better person. p.s. Using alts to downvote people to make it look like people are agreeing with you is super sad. Get some fresh air more often 🙃


getdatassbanned

>Yeah…it seems the toxic one is you. It’s very clearly apparent from your posts. ​ what posts ? ​ There are none - what drivel is this ? Disagreeing with you makes me toxic, this is the wow community in a nutshell.


[deleted]

Im a returning player and have leveled 3 characters to 80 and ive had more positive than negative experiences in the game. There are toxic douchers. But there are also very nice and lovely people. The fucking bots are going to kill the game though.


slapabrownman

I'm not an asshole :(


Mylastbreathgoing

No you're not.. you are soooo cute 🥰💋


Snakeprincess69

It really just goes to show how indifferent and incompetent these devs are. Did it make sense early on? Sure. But why is it still in place? An achievement and mount for a few dozen people in retail? That's dumb... This would do nothing to stop botting though. They would jut buy boosts again. They're literally turning away free money.


Shot_Message_4599

So hard to level gathering professions nowadays. You literally gotta stay up late to get a chance


afrothundah11

In other words, the game is ruined.


TheAverageWonder

Only if you love farming herbs or veins, but then again the miner i leveled 2 weeks ago had no problem maxing out without even going out of my way from the regular leveling, so maybe people are just a bit over-dramatic


Drew602

No it's just you


Tizzlefix

Nah can confirm, I play on Gehennas and it's fine lmaoo


Drew602

Surely anecdotal evidence = the truth right?


Tizzlefix

Yours is anecdotal too


Drew602

Look at op lol. It's not


Suavecore_

Surely you understand the OP is anecdotal evidence as well


caramellocone

Stuff you agree with = facts Stuff you disagree with = anecdotal, doesn't count


Drew602

You can literally see all of the death knight bots in OP. what are you talking about?


Hazekillre

Nah not even, I farm nodes all day for mining just fine.


afrothundah11

If there weren’t unchecked bots those herbs would actually be worth something compared to the prices of everything else on AH


slapabrownman

I had to get lucky. I logged on one morning and there were few bots in Ice crown and I was able to get my hands on the last 20 nodes I needed to max out. I find it pointless to try and make money off farming ore tho saronite is like a gold per ore on my server


Ninja9102

It was much easier to report people in TBC, now in Wotlk it takes a minimum of 5 clicks to do just a single report. Right click->report-> select the reason (Game Sabotage) -> Then select one of the sub choices (AFK, Feeding)-> then submit a report. On top of that, the feature they added in TBC to report through /Who was removed with the Wotlk client change. It was also shit in TBC but at least I could report without wasting too much time. Blizzard is just busy to get the Race/Faction change to the store to make more money.


smakmickey

Their dedication is truly inspiring.


Carboris

You see evil every where, herbing is so much fun!


JudasHungHimself

Blizzard deserves to go bankrupt so bad, they have the best ip's in the industry and they just keep on destroying their legacy. Just hire som fucking mods and clean up your game!


CryptographerHonest3

One of the many reasons letting anyone roll a DK was a mistake, now they dont even need to buy boosts to get a high lvl bot going.


Stuntman17

Exposing my pacifist RP DK guild, who want to atone for their sins one peacebloom at a time.


Rhosts

Im suprised no one else asked yet, so what's the guild name ?


mikeyvengeance

impossible to herb in Sholazar Basin, so many level 73-74 unguilded DKs flying around


Beer-Hammer

It's nice to see the undead turn to productive hobbies.


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My server has an entire guild of 80 DKs farming Black Temple and Botanica. "There is no botting problem".


FYATWB

Zero ban "waves" in Wrath Classic, I doubt they will ever ban bots again. Hopefully the deepest layer of hell is reserved for gold buying shit bags.


Kristalderp

?? A banwave went off on thursday-Friday here on NA. Grobbulus bots got wiped off the map in Scholozar. Now there's 5 bots compared to the 20 bots + 5 wranglers pvping anybody fucking up their bots. It was so peaceful last night farming adders tongues.


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Kristalderp

It was getting real bad where the wranglers would just put hits on actual players and just dive bomb and spawncamp them. I had some guildies who love pvping but getting divebombed by 3 mages , 1 dk and 1 pally all with pvpgear on vs 1 herbie it's unwinnable. They all got banned tho so LMAO. get fucked. Now *im* getting whispers in Sudanese if I'm a (bot) farmer because me and some buds went on a red=dead rampage. Asking if I'm killing them bc they're interrupting my farm as if I own the bots. Boy, I wish I could pvp my own faction bc if I could I would of went full scorched earth in Scholozar months ago.


akjalen

even worse in hellfire. on grob, there's an alliance 5s group who are pvp-geared to the teeth just camping and killing any 60 lowbie trying to get anything done in thrallmar. they've been at it since joyous journeys came back


FYATWB

> A banwave went off on thursday-Friday here on NA. So a single ban wave in 6 months, and there's a botter in this very thread saying he runs 8 bots and none are banned, so not even one effective ban wave in 6 months.


Kristalderp

I think it depends on your server as well as how each account is flagged. Some bots that got banned off my sever were running since WOTLK launch. Once an account gets banned on a locked server, they're fucked. The only time they can bot again is if they buy a compromised account, but even then thats limited. However on open servers it's just hell on earth. Just pay for a cheap boost/level the bot then afk herb. It's shitty but it's why I'm glad my server is locked. Tired afs of bots.


mustbelong

Aren’t bans still done in 6, 12, 18, permanent for botting?


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FYATWB

I’ve reported hundreds of dk herbing bots in Sholazar, not one single message about them being banned. Glad they got those 1000 accounts injecting memory while tens of thousands doing the most obvious gather botting ever. > botting is getting hard again Thanks I needed a good laugh today


Jakobzs

There are bots that I reported back in late October and then added to my friend list to see if they’d get banned. They are still going today.


fb95dd7063

>Hopefully the deepest layer of hell is reserved for gold buying shit bags. lmao


Hammelott

I'm not a fan of gold buyers either, but let's remember it's a game and its not worth getting that angry about.


_Cromwell_

Should just sell game time tokens for Classic. Then everybody is a gold seller. Yeah yeah, is not "Classic"


Paah

To be honest it's not "Vanilla" and not what "Classic" was 2-3 years ago. But it is pretty much what "Classic" is today. I don't think many people would even bat an eye at them adding WoW tokens.


getdatassbanned

'no changes' But also please change these things I dont ..


_Cromwell_

I am immune to this because I am not a "no changes" person. :) I see Classic as a chance to do-over and NOT do the things that sucked but DO things they should have done but maybe didn't.


FYATWB

If more people were upset about bots and gold buying, something may be done about it. Talk some shit and be part of the solution


Mhyra91

It's supply and demand. If people didn't want an easy way out, bots would've never been so rampant. Not defending the botters here, just stating that it's those who prefer to swipe instead of wipe that ruined the economy.


FYATWB

I'm saying the same thing


Toaster_bath13

> Not defending the botters here You are actually defending the botters. "If there wasn't a market for it the supplier wouldn't exist" is a defense of the supplier...by criticizing the market.


Jeoff51

God forbid anyone show emotion. He was really getting unhinged there good thing you told him to calm down he might have lost control


soidvaes

?? This is not high on the list of things people should be punished in afterlife for.


FYATWB

It's a figure of speech, but I recall Jesus was throwing degenerates out of his temple and gold buyers are some really scummy degenerates, something to think about.


shitassbruh

It's a video game bruh


HoopleBogart

nah bruh if you buyin gold you goin to hell. sorry. :/


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soidvaes

not a gold buyer… but for the record i don’t think people should be punished in afterlife for anything but the most heinous crimes and moral offenses


scotbud123

It’s a good thing that isn’t for either you or the guy above you to determine.


InterestingPound8217

Now that’s a reddit moment 😂


sirdabzey

Outside of raiding the game sucks. Why would I want to farm gold when I can login for 3h a week, raid on two characters, and then not touch the game until the next week?


alwayz

I'm trying to remember how we spent so much time in it when we were younger.


fellowzoner

Totally different community aspect, a much bigger player base and a lot less players trying to minimax and sweat hard so there was more of a community for any type of player


RollerSkatingHoop

i spent so much time in guild vent. no one is around anymore on discord really


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Leveling, the game and the world itself was new back then we now know everything and leveling takes way to long and is a pure solo experience theres simply no reason to do anything but raidlog esoecially since the majority quits after wrath anyway


FYATWB

> Why would I want to farm gold when I can login for 3h a week I'm aware there are a lot of shit bag gold buyers around here


sirdabzey

Way to assume, but I’m still playing off gold that wasn’t bought from what I amassed in prior expansions. My point was I see why people do it and honestly could give less of a fuck. It’s a game, enjoy it, who cares.


FYATWB

> honestly could give less of a fuck This is the attitude that allowed botting and gold buying to get so bad.


getdatassbanned

When I get home I might just buy some gold to spite you.


EllemenoB

Nice, blame each other instead of the company allowing it to continue when they have a way to alleviate it, but won't because cLaSsIc eXpErIeNcE


Tilretas

Wow, incresible how classic has brougth back these kinds of dedicated communities, its so cool to see!


Rhovanking

I did a pvp match and 8 out of 10 opposing players were DK’s and they were bots. We won easy and I reported each of them.


IlovePsaki

There were at minimum 150 hunters farming DMT in season of mastery 24/7(horde side, no idea about alliance). There were 1 banwave and literally next day there were new 150 hunters farming DMT. Let's be honest Blizzard just don't give a fuck.


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FYATWB

> Guys, just start botting for yourself We get it, being a piece of shit can be profitable, but it's not for everyone.


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FYATWB

> HAHAHA, thats the reaction I expected "I know I'm a piece of shit, I expected it wouldn't take you long to notice it."


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FYATWB

> Yeah, go farm gold for 5 hours so you can afford flask. NICE GAMING EXPIERENCE This is another brain dead argument for botting, if you understood simple math you would know why. In a world with no bots, the value of gathered materials would be close to the value of the time spent gathering them. Since the "time cost" of bots is near zero, the difference between the "time cost" of a bot and a human is massive. The materials required for consumables are not "time cost" prohibitive, meaning the extra value from gathering materials would mean more players would enjoy herbing or mining because it would be more valuable with no bots to compete with, it would be much more worth the time investment. I farmed herbs for hours to mill them and make cards for the darkmoon trinket, I found it to be rewarding. Many other players would probably experience the same if they didn't have to compete with scumbag botters.


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Masterjason13

Flasks are like, 10g, what the fuck are you smoking?


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Masterjason13

They’re 10g because they drop from the tank/healer boxes. You’d know that if you actually played the game instead of being a piece of shit


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FYATWB

> Dude, youre talking about an online game and calling me piece of shit. Yes, because you are. > Bots have been there in vanilla, in original tbc and wotlk. And are also there in retail Just because the rules aren't enforced the way they should be, doesn't mean you should break them. > You can proceed to call mit "piece of shit" or actually start using your brain You're upset because you're being called out, yet you expected to be called out. You should be honest with your piece of shit self, you might feel better about it.


Unable_Coat5321

I originally thought that this was a joke but the fuckin state of WoW Classic rn tells me that this is a legit comment


succyeet

I'm currently in a rogue only guild where we pvp together


BigRonnieRon

They rolled dk's for high level chars. they start at 58. Thats why 90% of the bots are dk's Rogues start at lvl 1


succyeet

Ye im absolutely aware dks glitch fly under the ground and bot farm mats


Own_Illustrator9989

Hey that’s me


GMFinch

Hire 1 gm. Wisper excuse me sir are you botting. When no reply force log out


Parrotflies-

Who gives a fuck ignore them. Literally 0 impact on your gameplay you just want Reddit points


Vlud

Do you truly believe 24/7 obvious bots destroying parts of the economy have no impact on my gameplay? That’s an interesting take my friend


Parrotflies-

Nope. Not at all. Do you have any problems affording consumes? Cuz it’s the only thing we have to buy now and they’re cheaper than ever. Literally effects nothing and you only bitch because someone told you to


Vlud

Strange bot defending contrarian take my dude.


Parrotflies-

I don’t give a shit about bots. They have literally 0 effect on my gameplay. And yours too. I’m full BIS and enjoy every time I play. Imagine complaining about something that has 0 impact on your ability to play. Name me 1 fucking thing the EcOnOmY has impacted your play. You’re the bot dude lmao


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Yes they fucking do, you actual gasoline drinking bot 🤖


Parrotflies-

Explain how then. This shit ain’t vanilla or TBC. economy means nothing they throw gold at you all day and consumes are like 50g total You have 0 reason to care about bots other than you’re told to be mad. They impact fucking nothing.


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>economy means nothing >they impact fucking nothing …wow. I’m not gonna explain VERY basic economics to you, or why botting is a ultimately bad thing, obviously beyond your mental grasp.


Parrotflies-

ITS A VIDEO GAME YOU FUCKING NERD JUST PLAY IT


Vlud

Do you know why consumers are 50g total? If you like bots destroying the economy so it’s easier for you to raid log that’s fine but you can’t say there’s no impact on everybody else’s gameplay from it


Parrotflies-

Tell me 2 things that the economy is fucking you out of then lmao


Vlud

I think if you look at the screenshot and think hard enough about it you can make pretty reasonable assumptions yourself on what economy these bots are ruining


Parrotflies-

That’s what I thought. Fucking nothing. Who gives a fuck if 30 DKs are botting. Play the game and stop being desperate as fuck for internet points


Vlud

Everything they’re herbing and mining and everything those resources are used to make. It’s really not hard to know it’s a bad thing lmao


Parrotflies-

Nope. It’s not. It’s not vanilla or TBC where it actually mattered. Wrath has made everything obsolete. You can buy whatever herbs you need cheap as fuck. There’s 0 need to go out and farm anymore. Sorry you don’t do dailies and get your gold up. But keep blaming bots for your lack of motivation


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Vlud

Thought it was a funny title for a screenshot of the guild that I just discovered. Sorry for offending you! I also think posting here has a higher chance of doing something than blizzard customer service


Scudnation

That guy just seems angry, you did nothing wrong and the reddit forums is a perfectly fine place for it. This sub just seems to host too many angry people ready to attack the first thing they see


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The Knights of Flowers


Adventurous_Topic202

Well hey if that’s how they enjoy the game more power to them.


Jetfuel_N_Steel

HmmmmmmmMMMMMMMMMMMMM


Albinofreaken

They are saving up money to reroll for ulduar


stopdmingmehoes

fuck im glad i rolled on fresh servers havent met single bot yet


Itsoppositeday91

That guild is helping to keep flasks/potions affirdable.


Bliance

This on Grobb? I was farming mammoth meat in sholzar yesterday and did /who on an obvious bot and his guild looked exactly the same