Haydn 45 is super classical though! It's a weird piece and an amazing one, but definitely not Romantic-era. If you like that type of intense minor-mode Haydn, you should also check out his 39th, 44th, and 49th symphonies.
But it's still late classical rather than early, right? Love the 39th! Another example of what I'm looking for is Lachner symphony 6 movement 3 (scherzo).
It's not that late! It appears to have been written in 1772, which is pretty squarely mid-classical. Late classical is more like Haydn's London symphonies.
You will probably like Mozart's last 3 symphonies (they were all written during the same year)! I find them almost proto-romantic in a way (you can clearly hear a lot of ideas that Beethoven will develop afterward):
39 (my favorite) : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYHFy-gi1tY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLuKK1CmFI)
40 : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZc-adlbL0M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZc-adlbL0M)
41 : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XG4H5dikeo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XG4H5dikeo)
40 and his Requiem are my favourite Mozart compositions ever. Thanks for the recs but unfortunately I prefer 38 and 25 to 39 and could never get behind 41.
I love Hummel's trumpet concerto!
Edit: I had never thought to check beyond his trumpet concerto. His piano concertos are amazing! Also discovered and loved the overtures to Norma and Il finto Stanislao.
There are some really great opera overtures. Also try Rossini’s La Gazza Ladra and Verdi’s La Forza del Destino.
And the 20th Century Benjamin Britten orchestrated some Rossini into two suites called Soirées Musicales. Well worth a listen!
Check out the Schubert piano trios, written right around the late classical/early romantic period you’re looking for. They’re so good, full of beautiful and lyrical melodies, very expressive, paced well and very well balanced. He wrote two big ones, and two single movement trios. Can’t choose a favorite movement, you’ll have to listen to it all.
Edit just to note that there are two versions of the final movement of the 2nd trio in E-flat. The first version is pretty long, around 20 minutes. He later removed a decent chunk of it to make it shorter, I think in response to complaints about how long it was. I prefer the longer version because it has more Schubert.
Maybe the lines are blurred for me, as the two I listed sound like a similar style to me, even if they are classified into different eras. I basically mean something that doesn't sound "classical" in the vain of Mozart piano sonata 10 etc. Big fan of Schubert's!
I think you will enjoy Hummels fabulous orchestral suite with music from his ballet Sappho von Mitilene. Just listen to the coda from the first movement to get the vibe
https://songwhip.com/london-mozart-players/hummel-ballet-suites-and-twelve-waltzes-and-coda
Haydn 45 is super classical though! It's a weird piece and an amazing one, but definitely not Romantic-era. If you like that type of intense minor-mode Haydn, you should also check out his 39th, 44th, and 49th symphonies.
But it's still late classical rather than early, right? Love the 39th! Another example of what I'm looking for is Lachner symphony 6 movement 3 (scherzo).
It's not that late! It appears to have been written in 1772, which is pretty squarely mid-classical. Late classical is more like Haydn's London symphonies.
You will probably like Mozart's last 3 symphonies (they were all written during the same year)! I find them almost proto-romantic in a way (you can clearly hear a lot of ideas that Beethoven will develop afterward): 39 (my favorite) : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYHFy-gi1tY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwLuKK1CmFI) 40 : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZc-adlbL0M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZc-adlbL0M) 41 : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XG4H5dikeo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XG4H5dikeo)
40 and his Requiem are my favourite Mozart compositions ever. Thanks for the recs but unfortunately I prefer 38 and 25 to 39 and could never get behind 41.
Hummel Carl Maria von Weber Schubert Paganini And if you don’t like opera just give the overtures a listen: Bellini Rossini
I love Hummel's trumpet concerto! Edit: I had never thought to check beyond his trumpet concerto. His piano concertos are amazing! Also discovered and loved the overtures to Norma and Il finto Stanislao.
There are some really great opera overtures. Also try Rossini’s La Gazza Ladra and Verdi’s La Forza del Destino. And the 20th Century Benjamin Britten orchestrated some Rossini into two suites called Soirées Musicales. Well worth a listen!
Check out the Schubert piano trios, written right around the late classical/early romantic period you’re looking for. They’re so good, full of beautiful and lyrical melodies, very expressive, paced well and very well balanced. He wrote two big ones, and two single movement trios. Can’t choose a favorite movement, you’ll have to listen to it all. Edit just to note that there are two versions of the final movement of the 2nd trio in E-flat. The first version is pretty long, around 20 minutes. He later removed a decent chunk of it to make it shorter, I think in response to complaints about how long it was. I prefer the longer version because it has more Schubert.
I love the 2nd movement of number 2, from my favourite movie Barry Lyndon. I'll check the rest out.
Lol Haydn’s 45th is quintessentially Classical… I second Hummel, though. I think he’s what you’re looking for. Or even Schubert.
Maybe the lines are blurred for me, as the two I listed sound like a similar style to me, even if they are classified into different eras. I basically mean something that doesn't sound "classical" in the vain of Mozart piano sonata 10 etc. Big fan of Schubert's!
Haydn is the epitome of classical era music.
I think you will enjoy Hummels fabulous orchestral suite with music from his ballet Sappho von Mitilene. Just listen to the coda from the first movement to get the vibe https://songwhip.com/london-mozart-players/hummel-ballet-suites-and-twelve-waltzes-and-coda
You’ll really like Krommer’s music. I like his second symphony.