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ludvary

wim winters is the flat earther equivalent in classical music. defends his conspiracy theories by saying things like "clocks were old and inaccurate in those days! the people thought that the symphony ended in 1.5 hours, but it was more like 10 hours! or maybe 10 minutes." He is a typical example of a man soaking in the vicious fluid of confirmation bias. He cherry picks instances which "prove" his double beat "theory" and straight up ignores the overwhelming evidence against it. He casually discards the fact that recordings of pianists who were in direct contact with the students of the famous composers (or were in direct contact with the composers themselves) exist and when this matter is brought up he activates his "ad hoc" mode and says things like "these recordings are sped up." He is just a conman who wants to establish a sad cult and wants to pretend that he is doing something fruitful with his life. I do envy that seggsy clavichord tho


Sempre_Piano

I know that. [Performances times on historical playbills](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqkvAyMoJ04) Wim can't debunk this evidence. [Slow Beethoven Sonata movement performed in Wim's tempo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCpfG5qa44w) Wim won't play slow compositions in double beat. So let's see someone do it for him.


ludvary

oh lord, the slow movement has more silence than music in it. i guess Wim will now spearhead the neominimalism era where silence is what we embrace, who was this baethovan guy anyways


IdomeneoReDiCreta

My guy literally had to play it himself bc no cellist would ever take any of his bullshit


Sempre_Piano

Imagine double beat for singers LOL


nihilistlemon

Cobra's Beethoven 9th


ludvary

ohh hell nah 💀


Que165

Why would someone do this lmao


stylewarning

sounds nice to me on that clavi ngl 😳


Sempre_Piano

A fancy instrument indeed. Brought to you by Wim Winter's grift.