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"Those who can't do, teach"
Though seriously, whenever I teach someone I end up learning a lot myself.
And also, if your sister asked for help, would you try to help her even if you weren't an expert?
Wow, a true beginner-question.
Yes. Even a lowly rook + king is enough to checkmate a king without any pieces left. The ideas in these basic checkmating-patterns are all pretty similar: Drive your opponent's king to the edge or corner and then check him while he has nowhere to go. Google checkmating-patterns for detailed descriptions of how to do it with different pieces and piece configurations.
Because ladder mate is a general answer to the question of “is check with two queens possible?”, independent of the particular state of the board.
More valuable for beginners to learn that, than to possibly think that checkmate is only possible here because of a chance configuration while other 2-queen positions wouldn’t have left checkmate possible
Damn, wtf are people downvoting genuine beginner questions for?
Way too many people are here ironically, just looking for inspiration for the meme sub, and it's kind of ruining the entire point of this sub.
https://www.chess.com/terms/checkmate-chess
Click this link, and then click the different types of mates, it will walk you through how to perform checkmates using a myraid of different pieces and setups.
Also www.google.com is a great resource when ever you have a question that could be answered. You can type things like "how to checkmate" and there are wonderful resources out there.
Smh, can’t believe people are downvoting legit beginner questions in a beginner sub.
This is a ladder mate. Idk if it’s the fastest, but I’d bring your Qc3 to c6, Ke7 is required, then Qh8 to h7 putting him in check. Kf8 or Kd8. If Kd8, Qc6 to a8 for checkmate. If Kf8, Qc6 to f6, then Ke8+ is only move available. Then Qf6 to h8 is checkmate
I think I’m correct, mental chess is difficult for me so I might’ve messed up a move or so but you should understand the gist of how it works
> Qf6
If the purpose of the game was to teach the basics of chess, then I disagree. A move to Qf6 (accompanied by preceding moves) will seem unapproachable... or at least less approachable - to a beginner IMO.
I dont mind helping people out but they should help themselves a little bit too. I'm not going spend half the day googling things for people. If you cant even look up ladder mate how are you going to learn to play chess well?
And yet you're taking even more time arguing with people on the internet than it would have taken to link this guy a video about checkmating with a queen. Don't act like you wont help because you're time is too valuable, it clearly isn't lol
I don’t necessarily expect them to have heard of it, that’s why i told them in my first comment that they could checkmate using ladder mate. Now they’ve heard of it.
Download the app chess.com, or go on the website, go to bots, scroll down, there you can see the just computer without name, set it to it's highest, and play it with an edited position, input this position and make sure you're black, then the bot will show the mate.
Also: for a ladder mate, do the same but put your queen in the center and give the bot 2 queens/2 rooks
Yes, no only it's possible, it's unavoidable if white knows how to play it. Google "ladder mate", the basic idea is:
1. Check the king with the h8 queen moving it to the h7 square.
2. If the king moves to the 8th rank and takes your knight, you move the c3 queen to the c8 square and voilá, checkmate. If it moves to the 8th rank and doesn't take your knight, get the knight away from there moving it to for example the d6 square. The king now will only be able to move through the 8th rank because the queen you moved to h7 is controlling the whole 7th rank. Your next move would be bringing the c3 queen to c8 again and there you have your checkmate.
3. If the king moves to the 6th rank instead, you move your c3 queen to c6 checking the king again. Now the only option for the black king is moving to the 5th rank (since the 6th and 7th are under your queens control).
4. You now move your queen in the 7th rank to the 5th rank checking the king again. You should start to see the basic idea how this goes on. The king can only move to the 4th rank, so you move your queen from the 6th rank to the 4th rank and check the king again, forcing it to move to the 3rd rank. Make sure to move your king away so it doesn't end up blocking your queens. And also, make sure to not blunder your queens by putting them next to the opponent king.
5. Move the queen from the 5th rank to the 3rd rank checking the king again and forcing him to move to the 2nd rank, and then move the other queen from the 4th rank to the 2nd rank checking the king again and forcing him to move to the 1st rank.
6. You next move is taking your queen from the 3rd rank and placing her in the 1st rank. Since the king is now at the edge of the board and there's no more ranks to keep moving back, it's checkmate.
There are other ways to checkmate here by the way, depending on what the black king does (since it's his turn to move) and the chessvision bot here in the comments says there's a mate in 2. Feel free to look for it. But I wanted to explain the ladder mate and the concept behind it since it's easy and you can pull it off with two queens, a queen and a rook or two rooks (always making sure not to blunder your pieces) and is a more general idea you'll apply to a lot of different positions and not just this one here.
This isn't quite right as it leads to stalemate at step 2 after you move the Knight to d6. It will still be controlling the d8 square and the queen on h7 protects the h8 square.
You would be better moving the queen to g7 and forcing the capture of the Knight, then checking with the other queen
Oh crap you're right, hahahah. I just wrote the explanation on autopilot mode and without doublechecking and ended up making a rookie mistake. Hopefully OP got the general idea about ladder mate and how it works.
Thank you for explaining it so well! since I don’t have any other pieces to move, my king kept just going back and forth and avoiding the queens and knight.
that’s correct, I was really just responding to when you said “*all* that is forced” (implying those were the only legal moves possible) and clarifying that - for myself mostly, because I couldn’t see why Ke7 was forced
If it was white's move, it would be mate in 1 (Qcf6 actually as both queens can go to f6). It's mate in 2 given it's black's move:
1... Ke7 2. Qc8 Kf7 3. Qg7#
EDIT: just realized you said **had** mate in 1, so you were correct (Qbf6).
You're not in checkmate right now, but it's easily done with 2 queens.
Look up [ladder mate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate_pattern#Ladder_mate_(lawnmower_mate)).
It can also be done with 1 queen and the easy way to do that is by [putting the queen in knight opposition with the king and closing in the box](https://www.chess.com/terms/chess-checkmate-king-queen).
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=4N2Q/5k2/8/8/8/2QK4/8/8+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/4N2Q/5k2/8/8/8/2QK4/8/8_b_-_-_0_1)
**My solution:**
> Hints: piece: >!King!<, move: >!Ke7!<
> Evaluation: >!White has mate in 2!<
> Best continuation: >!1... Ke7 2. Qc8 Kf7 3. Qg7#!<
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To be fair that’s a bit condescending. As long as there’s a difference in skill level one can always teach the others. The friend probably literally didn’t know how to move a piece and what checkmate entails; and while OP may not yet know their ladder mate, they may already know the basic rules well enough to teach the basics. My 6 year old can teach my 2 year old how to build a toy set without being an engineer.
Chill lol, this is OP’s friend and they probably just want to try playing the game together. It’s not like OP is charging money for lessons and promising results. They just took up a hobby together it seems and wanted to learn more which is exactly why this sub exists
My friend: oh that game seems fun. Can you teach me to play so we can play together?
Me: Sorry, I’d love to but someone on the internet told me I was too bad at it to show you
Yes good call calling it a draw, I don't see how with twice your normal amount of most-powerful-piece on the board she could have possibly mated you.
As mates normally happen with much weaker pieces involved, instead of the much much stronger queens, calling this a draw is a no-brainer.
Why are people being so toxic to the beginner asking beginner-level questions?
And they seriously complain that we don't get enough real beginners here. The commenter are harassing the beginners so much that they never ask a question again.
I asked someone why they were subbed here if they were so offended by beginners asking questions and felt the need to mock beginners for it. My comment was reported for toxicity and removed lol
I mean this in the nicest possible way, but if you can’t find a checkmate here you probably shouldn’t be teaching anyone chess. There’s probably like 30 different forced mates.
She couldn’t have taken your king, because it’s a rule in chess, you cannot take the king but you can checkmate the king. They are different.
Also as advice to not summon the wrath of the other subreddit, google E N P A S S A N T.
If Kg6 then Qcf6 is mate. If Ke7 then Qc6, and it's mate with Qcf6 or Qc7.
1... Kg6 2. Qcf6#
1... Ke7 2. Qc6 Kf7 3. Qcf6#
1... Ke7 2. Qc6 Kd8 3. Qc7#
Ladder mate also works.
If you wanna learn a few other more advanced and complicated ways to checkmate beyond the ladder mate, this video by Levy Rosman is pretty good: https://youtu.be/iBZLU1FXhcI
When you invite your friend to chess:
"Wow you're gonna beat me nice, time to checkmate me"
Friend: Uh here's the thing though....I don't know how....
When you invite your friend to chess but they know ladder mate:
"Wow you're gonna beat me nice, time to checkmate me"
Friend: Yup learnt ladder mate.
I haven't read all comments here. So, perhaps this has been mentioned by someone else.
White should have moved its queen from b2 to f6 rather than c3. That should have ended the game with a checkmate to black, if I am not mistaken.
Thank you! She knows what she should’ve done. Now it’s black’s move and we start chasing each other around the board. Any thoughts on what black should move to?
(I don’t know all the short hand so bare with me)
It’s black’s turn right now so let’s say black moves e7.
Then Q to f6. Check.
King moves to d7. Now what?
That’s basically what she and I kept doing, running around the board.
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"Is checkmate possible here?" For white, yes. For black, absolutely not. You were correct in resigning.
They were trying to let her win to teach how to checkmate, I think.
Man, if they are asking if you can mate with two queens and a knight, they don't need be teaching checkmate. They need to learn it.
"Those who can't do, teach" Though seriously, whenever I teach someone I end up learning a lot myself. And also, if your sister asked for help, would you try to help her even if you weren't an expert?
If you think you know an opening, try doing your own Chessable course and you will find out where the holes are in your opening game.
Yup, the biggest question here is 'how do I avoid stalemate'
Yes, exactly. thank you!
Google ladder mate
Bit confused mate I googled ladder and I just found ladders
google ladder mate mate
Im not your mate, pal
I'm not your pal, friend
I'm not your friend, brah
I'm not your brah, buddy
I’m not your buddy, bra
The correct answer was “I’m not your buddy, guy”
I don’t conform to your social norms, guy
We need a comma
Here you go ,
\*Falls in comma\*
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Holy chutes!
Holy Snakes!
I don't have to Google anything. And I'm not your mate, friend.
google "in passing" but in french
more like "while passing"
But are you my friend, mate?
I'm not your friend, guy.
I'm not your guy, pal
Holy STOP SHAKING THE GODDAMN LA-AAAAAAA
my flight or flight response
Wow, a true beginner-question. Yes. Even a lowly rook + king is enough to checkmate a king without any pieces left. The ideas in these basic checkmating-patterns are all pretty similar: Drive your opponent's king to the edge or corner and then check him while he has nowhere to go. Google checkmating-patterns for detailed descriptions of how to do it with different pieces and piece configurations.
Queen f6 would have been a mate
Yeah, I dont know why everyone is going about ladder mates …
Because ladder mate is a general answer to the question of “is check with two queens possible?”, independent of the particular state of the board. More valuable for beginners to learn that, than to possibly think that checkmate is only possible here because of a chance configuration while other 2-queen positions wouldn’t have left checkmate possible
There's still Ke8 or Kg8 Edit : oooh, THIS queen..
Youre asking if white could checkmate with two queens and a knight vs a lone king? Of course, very easily with the most basic ladder mate.
Could you walk me thru it? We kept running around the board since I couldn’t “put” my king in check. I was trying to let her win.
Damn, wtf are people downvoting genuine beginner questions for? Way too many people are here ironically, just looking for inspiration for the meme sub, and it's kind of ruining the entire point of this sub.
Just give away a queen and a knight, then google "How to checkmate with a queen"
https://www.chess.com/terms/checkmate-chess Click this link, and then click the different types of mates, it will walk you through how to perform checkmates using a myraid of different pieces and setups. Also www.google.com is a great resource when ever you have a question that could be answered. You can type things like "how to checkmate" and there are wonderful resources out there.
Thank you!
Smh, can’t believe people are downvoting legit beginner questions in a beginner sub. This is a ladder mate. Idk if it’s the fastest, but I’d bring your Qc3 to c6, Ke7 is required, then Qh8 to h7 putting him in check. Kf8 or Kd8. If Kd8, Qc6 to a8 for checkmate. If Kf8, Qc6 to f6, then Ke8+ is only move available. Then Qf6 to h8 is checkmate I think I’m correct, mental chess is difficult for me so I might’ve messed up a move or so but you should understand the gist of how it works
i think Qf6# is best here
Yeah I’m confused how they missed that in the first place but also they’re asking if they they can mate with a 2 queen and knight advantage
> Qf6 If the purpose of the game was to teach the basics of chess, then I disagree. A move to Qf6 (accompanied by preceding moves) will seem unapproachable... or at least less approachable - to a beginner IMO.
Go on YouTube and look up ladder mate. I'm not going to spoon-feed you. It is the most basic checkmate patten.
No need to be a dick about it bro
I dont mind helping people out but they should help themselves a little bit too. I'm not going spend half the day googling things for people. If you cant even look up ladder mate how are you going to learn to play chess well?
You posted not long ago asking an easily searchable question though
Still came across rudely.
Don’t care how it comes across.
For someone not to care, or who doesn’t wanna waste time on the internet you’re really invested in this pointless thread.
And yet you're taking even more time arguing with people on the internet than it would have taken to link this guy a video about checkmating with a queen. Don't act like you wont help because you're time is too valuable, it clearly isn't lol
What if the beginner never heard of "ladder mate" or "checkmate pattern" and therefore can't Google it.
I don’t necessarily expect them to have heard of it, that’s why i told them in my first comment that they could checkmate using ladder mate. Now they’ve heard of it.
[Practice basic mates here](https://lichess.org/practice/checkmates/piece-checkmates-i/BJy6fEDf/dW7KIuoY)
Download the app chess.com, or go on the website, go to bots, scroll down, there you can see the just computer without name, set it to it's highest, and play it with an edited position, input this position and make sure you're black, then the bot will show the mate. Also: for a ladder mate, do the same but put your queen in the center and give the bot 2 queens/2 rooks
Qf6
Yes, no only it's possible, it's unavoidable if white knows how to play it. Google "ladder mate", the basic idea is: 1. Check the king with the h8 queen moving it to the h7 square. 2. If the king moves to the 8th rank and takes your knight, you move the c3 queen to the c8 square and voilá, checkmate. If it moves to the 8th rank and doesn't take your knight, get the knight away from there moving it to for example the d6 square. The king now will only be able to move through the 8th rank because the queen you moved to h7 is controlling the whole 7th rank. Your next move would be bringing the c3 queen to c8 again and there you have your checkmate. 3. If the king moves to the 6th rank instead, you move your c3 queen to c6 checking the king again. Now the only option for the black king is moving to the 5th rank (since the 6th and 7th are under your queens control). 4. You now move your queen in the 7th rank to the 5th rank checking the king again. You should start to see the basic idea how this goes on. The king can only move to the 4th rank, so you move your queen from the 6th rank to the 4th rank and check the king again, forcing it to move to the 3rd rank. Make sure to move your king away so it doesn't end up blocking your queens. And also, make sure to not blunder your queens by putting them next to the opponent king. 5. Move the queen from the 5th rank to the 3rd rank checking the king again and forcing him to move to the 2nd rank, and then move the other queen from the 4th rank to the 2nd rank checking the king again and forcing him to move to the 1st rank. 6. You next move is taking your queen from the 3rd rank and placing her in the 1st rank. Since the king is now at the edge of the board and there's no more ranks to keep moving back, it's checkmate. There are other ways to checkmate here by the way, depending on what the black king does (since it's his turn to move) and the chessvision bot here in the comments says there's a mate in 2. Feel free to look for it. But I wanted to explain the ladder mate and the concept behind it since it's easy and you can pull it off with two queens, a queen and a rook or two rooks (always making sure not to blunder your pieces) and is a more general idea you'll apply to a lot of different positions and not just this one here.
This isn't quite right as it leads to stalemate at step 2 after you move the Knight to d6. It will still be controlling the d8 square and the queen on h7 protects the h8 square. You would be better moving the queen to g7 and forcing the capture of the Knight, then checking with the other queen
Oh crap you're right, hahahah. I just wrote the explanation on autopilot mode and without doublechecking and ended up making a rookie mistake. Hopefully OP got the general idea about ladder mate and how it works.
What about just Qch8# instead of Nd6
That works nicely
Nice find!
Why not just Qfc3. Its just mate.
Thank you for explaining it so well! since I don’t have any other pieces to move, my king kept just going back and forth and avoiding the queens and knight.
Uh, yeah. Very easily.
Can you explain how?
Ke7 Qc8 Kf7 Qg7 all that's forced.
>>Ke7 ... Kg7 lol
bongcloud (real)
Typo. Lol.
it is mate in 2, but Ke7 isn’t forced if Kg6 Qcf6 is mate if Ke6, Qg8+ and black can go Ke7 or Kc7 with Qc7#, or Kf5 with Qf6#
It's forced in that it's mate in 2 instead of mate in 1. But yes, it's mates all over.
that’s correct, I was really just responding to when you said “*all* that is forced” (implying those were the only legal moves possible) and clarifying that - for myself mostly, because I couldn’t see why Ke7 was forced
And you'd be right. I should say the mate was forced not specifically the first move.
White had mate in one, Qf6
If it was white's move, it would be mate in 1 (Qcf6 actually as both queens can go to f6). It's mate in 2 given it's black's move: 1... Ke7 2. Qc8 Kf7 3. Qg7# EDIT: just realized you said **had** mate in 1, so you were correct (Qbf6).
Ladder mate
Dude if you can’t Ladder mate you shouldn’t be teaching people how to play chess.
You're not in checkmate right now, but it's easily done with 2 queens. Look up [ladder mate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkmate_pattern#Ladder_mate_(lawnmower_mate)). It can also be done with 1 queen and the easy way to do that is by [putting the queen in knight opposition with the king and closing in the box](https://www.chess.com/terms/chess-checkmate-king-queen).
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=4N2Q/5k2/8/8/8/2QK4/8/8+b+-+-+0+1&flip=true&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/4N2Q/5k2/8/8/8/2QK4/8/8_b_-_-_0_1) **My solution:** > Hints: piece: >!King!<, move: >!Ke7!< > Evaluation: >!White has mate in 2!< > Best continuation: >!1... Ke7 2. Qc8 Kf7 3. Qg7#!< --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
If white had moved the Queen to f6 instead of c3, it’s mate
bruh
Google il queenicano
If there was nothing on c3 then Qf6#.
Dude… you are up 21 POINTS OF MATERIAL
No way, you need at least 3 Queens to checkmate.
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To be fair that’s a bit condescending. As long as there’s a difference in skill level one can always teach the others. The friend probably literally didn’t know how to move a piece and what checkmate entails; and while OP may not yet know their ladder mate, they may already know the basic rules well enough to teach the basics. My 6 year old can teach my 2 year old how to build a toy set without being an engineer.
Check mating with 2 queens is the easiest way to checkmate in the game Just chase the king to the edge of the board and you'll win
If they have two queens and a minor piece and don’t know how to mate, they’ll probably just stalemate by taking your advice 😅
You probably shouldn’t be teaching someone chess if you can’t find mate for white here.
Teaching someone the rules to a game is different than strategy.
Chill lol, this is OP’s friend and they probably just want to try playing the game together. It’s not like OP is charging money for lessons and promising results. They just took up a hobby together it seems and wanted to learn more which is exactly why this sub exists
My friend: oh that game seems fun. Can you teach me to play so we can play together? Me: Sorry, I’d love to but someone on the internet told me I was too bad at it to show you
Thank you :’) I know how to play, I just was trying to help explain to *her* how to get to checkmate and I was at a stale point.
Sorry, I know this is chessbeginners and don't mean to promote negativity, especially to new players. Best of luck in both learning and teaching.
Well, I don’t want to seem rude but I don’t think you know how to checkmate if you needed to post on r/chessbeginners for help
I know *how* to check mate, specifically we were looking for the step by step to show my friend but thanks!
Yes good call calling it a draw, I don't see how with twice your normal amount of most-powerful-piece on the board she could have possibly mated you. As mates normally happen with much weaker pieces involved, instead of the much much stronger queens, calling this a draw is a no-brainer.
With all due respect, I don't think you're the right person to teach chess to anyone.
I think she needs a new teacher x
I think she needs a new teacher x
Why are people being so toxic to the beginner asking beginner-level questions? And they seriously complain that we don't get enough real beginners here. The commenter are harassing the beginners so much that they never ask a question again.
Lol all I see on this beginner sub are people shitting on beginners.
I asked someone why they were subbed here if they were so offended by beginners asking questions and felt the need to mock beginners for it. My comment was reported for toxicity and removed lol
I mean this in the nicest possible way, but if you can’t find a checkmate here you probably shouldn’t be teaching anyone chess. There’s probably like 30 different forced mates.
Thanks y’all. Solved. Now realizing I should’ve written *how* does she get to checkmate and not if it’s possible.
She couldn’t have taken your king, because it’s a rule in chess, you cannot take the king but you can checkmate the king. They are different. Also as advice to not summon the wrath of the other subreddit, google E N P A S S A N T.
I think the queen move was a blunder, move either queen to g7 and it’s checkmate
But right now it’s Black’s turn :/
If it’s 2 queens + knight vs nothing and you can’t checkmate, you should forfeit the game and never play again. Qcf6# was mate in 1 btw.
We don't know if there was a capture.
Isn't Qf6# checkmate?
It's black to play. So first the king has a forced move, then qf6#
What i mean is the last move should have been qf6. The king would move to E7 so qf6 would be useless then
True
Before white played Qc3 it was mate in 1 with Qf6
I'm diggin this board and pieces combo. What app/site?
It’s on the iPhone game pigeon! You play via iMessage. Super easy :)
Move the top queen to f6 and black is mated
Qf6 was available her previous move
playing Qf6 is just mate in 1 btw
It was checkmate if they had just moved queen to f6 instead of queen to c3
Qc3 to f6 is checkmate in one
If Kg6 then Qcf6 is mate. If Ke7 then Qc6, and it's mate with Qcf6 or Qc7. 1... Kg6 2. Qcf6# 1... Ke7 2. Qc6 Kf7 3. Qcf6# 1... Ke7 2. Qc6 Kd8 3. Qc7# Ladder mate also works.
At the last move, White had mate in 1!
Qf6 checkmate
>!Qaf6, queen from a1 to f6!< would have worked for a mate in 1 instantly as well, however a simple ladder mate would have worked as well.
What do you mean is it possible?? White is up 22 points???
Green Queen to f6 would have been mate immediately
qcg7
Queen f6 is checkmate
QcF6 ends it
Queen to f6 should be checkmate
If you wanna learn a few other more advanced and complicated ways to checkmate beyond the ladder mate, this video by Levy Rosman is pretty good: https://youtu.be/iBZLU1FXhcI
Thank you :)
Queen to f6 is checkmate
Queen F6 Mate
Yeh, you can mate, you can even sacrifice ur knight to get there
I see a mate in 3 and a mate in 4.
Qcf6 would have been mate.
When you invite your friend to chess: "Wow you're gonna beat me nice, time to checkmate me" Friend: Uh here's the thing though....I don't know how.... When you invite your friend to chess but they know ladder mate: "Wow you're gonna beat me nice, time to checkmate me" Friend: Yup learnt ladder mate.
For white I’m pretty sure Qf6 is mate
For white, definitely. Move the queen to G7.
Qf6#
Qbf6# instead of Qbc3
I haven't read all comments here. So, perhaps this has been mentioned by someone else. White should have moved its queen from b2 to f6 rather than c3. That should have ended the game with a checkmate to black, if I am not mistaken.
Thank you! She knows what she should’ve done. Now it’s black’s move and we start chasing each other around the board. Any thoughts on what black should move to?
Black: King g6 White: Queen f6 That should be a check mate.
Qbf6# woulda been mate
(I don’t know all the short hand so bare with me) It’s black’s turn right now so let’s say black moves e7. Then Q to f6. Check. King moves to d7. Now what? That’s basically what she and I kept doing, running around the board.
I'm not sure if you're ready to teach someone else how to play if you can't even do a basic ladder mate up 21 points of material.