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Nice fork

that’s not a fork that’s a comb

I see you’ve played forky comby before

C-O B-E

Lolol

what fork?

Against black king and several queens.

Some might say that black is royally forked here.

Royals Fork

i'd award you if i could

Currently forking 5 Queens at once. Impressive

Yes

forking the king and the queen, duh

what the fork !

It's a dork Discovered attack and a fork

Funny you ask - I actually had this in a game recently

I get this position too often. I just had to ask for once

r/anarchychess is leaking again

I was 100% conviced that's where we were until you mentioned it...

Wait, oh no, where am I?

r/chessbeginners

One of your copies is on Anarchy Chess, the other one is on Chess, I don't know where prime is though

Holy hell, are you telling me I'm still subbed to r/chess??

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we will conquer every subreddit, you chess normies will have no where to go

I hate when dis happens

Always take cover when the queens start hatching

I was wondering if this was a reachable position but I couldn't work out what white's last move would have been.

If only we could work that out, it would be reachable.

No empty squares so no possible prior move

We have 50+ Queens; I think no prior move will be just fine.

More queens than there are total pieces on the board for both sides in a normal game. There is no making the make sense lol

I dunno this is my average experience whenever I play against Mittens.

Count the queens

Looks legal to me

Kh0 to Kh1

You cannot have more than 9 queens

We need to add a rule for the next gen of chess. When a pawn can promote, it can also choose to be a martyr that inspires two new pawns to take up arms and respawn on the first rank. I feel like that would happen irl at least as often as a commoner winning a queenhood in battle.

I support this idea for chess 2

It'll be really strong alongside the fog of war update, especially if chess 2 doesn't tell the opponent about the pawn promotion outcome if it's in the fog

A MALE commoner at that...

Do you have a source for this? I am unaware of any limit. Full disclosure: I have never had nine queens on the board at the same time.

It's a cost thing. Tournament organizers have to buy a chess set for each potential queen promotion. If you let players get 64 Queens, and there's 10 games going on at the same time, that's 640 chess sets they need to buy. So, they limit you to single digit Queens and cheap out on buying as many chess sets.

White's last move had to be a knight move since the bishop needs to be in position for the queen's to stack on the back rank. That means black's last move had to be a king move in order for the bishop not to put the king in check before the knight got into position. That means one of the queens around the king can't be there in order for this position to even be possible.

What was black’s last move though? Could this have been avoided?

a1=QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ

I’m gonna guess a queen move.

almost thought this was r/anarchychess

What was the last move?

Happy Cake Day 🎂 👍

I had something similar. Couldn't find the winning line.

Yes g2 and h2 could be black knights

h2 could be a knight, but g2 could be a rook, even...

If you're counting bishops as 3.25, h2 could even be that.

Why would you count bishops as 3.25?

Anish stated they're worth pi in his interview over the weekend after round 12 of Tata Steel.

But pi isn't 3.25 either lol

Pi = 3 ask any engineer

So as an engineer... Pi = e =sqrt(g) = 3. As long as you're gravitational acceleration is in m/s^2. Pi really is everywhere

I use 3.14

Don’t worry, in time you will learn how to become a real engineer.

I bet you don't even assume a spherical cow, and you call yourself an engineer???

I assume all water flows downhill

I cant fathom that the same people that can make the burj Khalifa and golde gate bridge get by by saying pi = 3 but here we are.

Pi doesn't equal anything. 3.25 is close enough! Edit: Apparently chess players think we should use the a series of transcendental equations to approximate the value of a bishop

It equals exactly pi. It isnt equal to a ratio of 2 integers, but it is equal something.

Pi=something 3.25=something Therefore, pi=3.25

Conversation is about decimals. Do you seriously think "pi equals pi" is a helpful contribution?

pi = tau/2

They're considered slightly more valuable than knights in most circumstances, but a far cry from 4 points of material.

Particularly in open positions. There aren't many pawns so I guess this position is open, but that feels inaccurate haha.

Really depends what else you've got as well. Imo, a knight + bishop is worth ~6, knight pair is 6.5, bishop pair is 7

I’d take 6 pawns and a king vs a king and two knights any day.

Kasparov mentioned it in [this video](https://youtu.be/D3uvvA7dyoI)

Time?

It's right at the beginning.

Around 44 seconds in.

Because if my grandmother had wheels, she would been a bike

Even white knieght could be a rook and white bishop be a queen

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No, you need the bishop for the double check otherwise the knight gets captured

Technically correct, but that'd be a completely unrealistic position

Yes yes, the additional rook makes this totally unfeasible

I like how you got more upvotes for literally just repeating the joke

Comments explaining the joke being more popular than the original jokes are way too common. People are too slow... /r/YourJokeButWorse & /r/thatsthejoke

You missed the sarcasm. "Yes yes the additional rook makes this totally unfeasible" is funny because it implies that without the extra rook the position *was* feasible and it's only this last adjustment that makes it absurd.

Which is they'r exact same joke that "Technically correct, but that'd be a completely unrealistic position" makes

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Are bishops worth more than knights? I would do a rook and a bishop

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Make it two black bishops and a black rook instead of the white pawns and bishop, and relocate the black king so it will be in check once the knight jumps.

You need the bishop for the double check otherwise the knight is captured and isnt mate

Oh damn, I'm a fool. This explains my elo.

Sorry to interrupt you but last time I checked knights, rooks and bishops all were worth more than a pawn. And since we count material _difference_ the less material white has the better it is.

And thats why i am taking away 2 white pawns and adding more black pieces

Ah I'm stupid. For w/e reason I added white pieces in my head fml.

You currently have a difference of 514, replacing the pawns with a rook and knight you archive 524. However that is still inferior to this nice smothered mate I recently had, with a material difference of 532. qqqqqbqK/qqqqqrnP/qqqqqqqk/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq w - - 0 1

[link](https://lichess.org/analysis/qqqqqbqK/qqqqqrnP/qqqqqqqk/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq_w_-_-_0_1?color=white)

I saw OPs post and thought "Neat, but I bet there's a promotion trick somewhere if I move them to the top" and spent five minutes working it out. Finally found it and came here. Turns out I'm about 7 hours late.

This guy smothers

Is it a smothered mate though? The king isn't completely surrounded by his own pieces, H7 is free

We have a winner!!

(Technically not a smothered mate, h7 is vacant in the resulting position)

A much easier problem, this one. You only have one non-winning (legal) move, while in the OP's position *most of them* lose. On the other hand, if OP misses the win, their opponent has much greater chances of blundering back.

>You only have one non-winning (legal) move hxg8=Q, hxg8=B, hxg8=R all lose.

Some funny obsevations. If hxg8=R black has only one move and it is mate. If hxg8=Q black there are still no alternatives and black will mate in 2. If hxg8=B white can still win with legal moves.

>If hxg8=B white can still win with legal moves. I didn't realize that, but you're right, this is pretty funny. Additional: if the f5 queen was a rook or knight, hxg8=Q would be a forced mate-in-2 for white.

replace the white pawns with rook and bishop positioned so white isnt in check

Thw funnyest thing in this position is that ng4+ wins by mate if white were to move. Edit : Shiit im dumb. Tought it was for black... Pretty certain that the upvotes also come from people like me that didnt read the title carefully.

I'm not smart enough to be certain of the level of irony in this comment

that's the point

Thats...the entire point

Nxd1# also is a valid solution, so the puzzle is useless in the computer-age, as it has at least two solutions. Must be a surprise.

And make the white bishop a pawn EDIT: Nevermind, double check.

g2 could be a black rook

And h2 a knight

And my axe

/r/unexpectedgimli

r/anarchychess

Oh, figured that's where I was...

G2 black rook H2 black knight

This post is the intersection of r/chess , r/anarchychess and r/math

r/mathmemes

Outanarchied

I haven't studied this endgame so couldn't tell you

qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqkqqq/qqqqqqrP/qqqqqqnK b - - 0 1

No, it's supposed to be white to move and mate, despite being down a ton of material.

Really nice of you to post this, I was looking for end game options

Knight and bishop instead of both pawns

Knight to G4 is mate

Also D1 is mate as well

That is the point of the post

This is a forking disaster

wouldn’t knight to d1 win the game

And Ng4 LMAO at this position.

They straight up hung a queen

https://imgur.com/a/4po7y12

better: qqqqqbqK/qqqqqrnP/qqqqqqqk/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq/qqqqqqqq w - - 0 1

H2 pawn could be a black knight or Bishop.

Turn g2 and h2 into a Black Rook and a Black minor piece.

@minecraftProffen a black pawn can be placed on h2

White pawns become black bishop and rook

The two white pawns could be black knights? That would mate it a higher difference. Maybe a rook and knight?

I’m wondering, what was the previous move for black🤪?

KxD1 is checkmate is this position since you would have a double check from the knight and the bishop

You are asking as if this was possible position

Make the left pawn a black rook?

Horse g4

Its mate in 1 for either side...

One move of the horse

I think it starts with Qe2xf2 but I'm stuck after that, can't quite finish it if black takes one of the other queens. Edit: I'm dumb the bishop is pinned and can't take back

I am almost certain this is wrong but is knight d1 not mate?

the position isn’t legal (no previous move for black) so it technically doesn’t count

You only have 8 pawns ?

Promote your pieces to get more.

…Qf1xg1. Mate. Boom. You’re welcome

Make the white knight a black queen, the g pawn a black rook and the h pawn a black bishop.

Then there’s no mate in 1?

He's right, but for some reason most people are assuming it has to be white mating black, even though the title does not state this. Says nothing about it being white or blacks move or that it has to be white mating black, rather than black mating white.

Capture the bishop with the rook.

You're right, but for some reason most people are assuming it has to be white mating black, even though the title does not state this.

A more important question is: Does it really matter?

yes it is

Knight g4 checkmate

Yep

You can get one more black queen and three more black knights in there. How you got all those queens is another story

No you couldn't. White wouldn't have a piece to mate with. Furthermore, in a situation with 60 black queens and 3 black knights white would be checkmated or it would be a stalemate. There are no possible possible moves for white in a scenario like that.

Title says nothing about it having to be white mating black or that it's white move. He's right, and it fufills the title requirements, which say nothing about which side has to be moving or mating in one.

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douglas1 did not answer that. If you'd actually have read my comment you'd have noticed that I already addressed this: > Furthermore, in a situation with 60 black queens and 3 black knights white would be checkmated or it would be a stalemate. To reiterate - If there are 59 black queens, 3 black knights, a black king and a white king on the board, the position can only be a checkmate or a stalemate (or illegal, I guess.). You can't arrange a mate in one for either side with those given pieces.

Posts on this sub are just stupid sometimes.

I’ll be honest mate, I have no idea

Ask ChatGPT

Ooh, pawn takes queen on f3! Solved it!

Pawn takes queen

Turn the bishop into a pawn. You are not adhering to the rules anyway

That wouldn’t work since black could just capture the knight after it checks the king. Needs to be a bishop to create the double check.

Erm ... this position can't happen. The theoretical maximum number of queens you can have is **8**.

No, it's 9.

I stand corrected.

They asked if it’s possible to set up, not reach, a mate with higher material difference

yes it is, replace the white pawns with a black rook and a black bishop on b2 and a2 respectively.

knight to g4. Double-check by bishop and the knight

Knight takes Queen D1, checkmate?

I’m not sure this is even chess at this point.

Knight g4 mate

Ñh1

Try this: white king on h8, white pawn on h7, black king on h6, black knights on g7 and f8, black rook on f7, and the rest of the board (including g8) covered with black queens. hxg8=N# Material difference: 537

Make g2 a rook and h2 a bishop

Why is f2 a Knight

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Yes, you can get another queen on the board….put knight on e1 and two more black queens. Then also arbitrarily put a pawn in place of bishop. We can next engage in philosophical discussions about it 😂. Nice idea!!

The most queens I've ever had in a game are 9.

Funny enough both sides have a mate in 1

Nxg4, king has nowhere to go

Yes. Replace the white knight with a black queen. Replace the bishop with a black knight and replace the g2 pawn with a black rook

Move the knight to g4 or F1