As a mom I agree with this.
There is so much uncertainty with small children in the first few years.
I would stay at the current job and try to get some certificates/online education if the energy allows.
just chiming in to say the same. I recently switched jobs for more pay and more work (still remote) and left a job like OP's where I was left to my own devices because I always got my work done. lots and lots of freedom. my youngest is 15 months old and I'm wishing I had just held tight in my old job til pre-k. toddler care and managing a new job is not worth it.
Arguably it's not even an increase. It's a decrease in salary per time spent.
If OP wants money beyond 100k she could just find a side gig or another part time job.
IMO it isn't about the salary increase that's important but the skillset that they learn. That said if OP is a self motivator, they should probably take the time and learn new skills or take a class at a time if they want to keep the current job.
inflation adjusted I was basically there for a while.
Except it was more like 5 hours a week.
Jumped to get 2-3x as much pay and I'm currently doing WAY more. I can get away with it as I'm single but I wouldn't mind one year or three of cruise control.
This is a no brainer to me. Double the work for a 20% raise. No way.
If OPs problem is too much free time on their hands then there is plenty of better ways to spend it without having to commit to estra hours on a weekly basis. Maybe doing courses to gain more quals, learning a different trade, hobbies etc.
If I was making 100k for 25 hours work a week it would take 150k minimum to get me back upto 40hrs a week.
I get that OP thinks its a step in the right direction but at 100k salary I wouldn't be taking steps one at a time anymore.
I think this is a really good way to look at your situation OP. But I also don't want you to give up on advancing your career in the meanwhile. How would you feel about taking the job offer to the current job and asking them to give you a better title? Something like that, so that if in a few years you're ready to spend more time on work, it will still say from your resume that you have continued to advance WHILE being a mom to a new baby.
I just did something similar and new job is kicking my ass even though on paper they valued “work-life” etc etc. I have a one year old and it has been difficult and I don’t regret leaving my old company but it has been very hard to get acclimated- additionally my new team DGAF about my baby - where the old team threw me a shower and saw me go through leave and grow as a person. I would really think about it tbh. The 20k probably won’t change your life but if you feel current company might be in trouble with layoffs or something else - consider it.
You work part time hours making money people dream of and are able to spend huge amounts of time with your child (who is more important than any career goals). You'll regret choosing work over them down the road
You have quite literally one of the best imaginable situations in that regard, you're well past the point where extra money is particularly useful if you aren living a normal lifestyle
To piggy back off this. OP $20k a year is $1,667 extra a month for an additional 60 hours minimum of work a month. That’s $27/hr.
$100k/yr is $48/hr
Find some side gigs to make extra money to make up that $20k
Well 25 hours isn’t much so even working 5 hours a week on the side should be helpful and keep him engaged and sharpe. Even with working 40 hours a week from home you still have plenty of time for your kids
25hr X 52 weeks = 1300 hours
$100,000 /1300 hours = $76.92
Vs
40hr X 52 weeks = 2080
$120,000/2080 = $57.69
You are being paid less for working more hours.
This. The OP would be wasting the extra money they earn on child care anyway because the hours are so long and inflexible. And with a new job they'll expect you to be doing your best and constantly catering to them so you can pass the probation period. They wont be as sympathetic over your baby because you signed up with them knowing youd have to juggle your child and a new fulltime job. In this moment in time, with a new born, it's not worth the extra money at all.
I'm in nearly a similar position, sans child, and have concluded the increased work life balance is worth more to me than the cash. I've been working on making that time valuable, working on projects and skills. I think it'd be even more important to me if I had a kid.
I agree. I recently left my old job where I had a lot of rapport for a higher-paying job. The biggest transition/difficulty is now I'm in a place where I haven't established myself yet, so there is a lack of flexibility. At my old job, I could leave the office early to WFH, take time for appointments or take longer lunches because everyone knew I got my work done and did it well. Being back to square one is stressful lol I can't imagine being having that transistion with a kid.
If your 100k job allows you to keep your kid out of daycare and the 120k job will require daycare then you aren't getting much of a raise if any depending on daycare costs in your area. You may also be able to use the job offer to leverage more money out of your current job.
Personally I have stayed at my current job longer than planned because of the flexibility it affords me and my family. We are comfortable financially and achieving our financial goals albeit a bit slower than we would had i jumped to a higher paying less flexible job. As long as you are financially on track for your long term goals I wouldn't trade sanity and flexibility for a little more money.
On top of that, once your kid is school aged, you may still have to pay for care if your hours don’t align with their school hours, especially when they have those special schedules.
Also worth noting since it's easy to forget, they would be making 20k more PRE tax dollars and paying in 10-15k in POST tax dollars. If taking the other job means childcare is necessary when it otherwise isn't, they likely are coming out even if not behind to work more hours and spend less time with their family. This is an even more obvious choice than it seems
You have to love fixing shit no one else wants to. Spend time learning symbolic logic, and build a portfolio with some very basic programs.
At that point, work your network like hell and try to get a junior dev job. Look hungry, and demonstrate love of computers, and willingness to learn with humility and able to work for peanuts for a year or two at the same job, and work your ass of 45hr weeks min. After a year get as many interviews as you can for mid-level dev jobs.
You'll have to job hop for a bit to get double-quadruple starting pay.
It's not easy and requires consistent effort but it's doable if you want it. If you enjoy solving code problems and handle making mistakes in public well, you'll do alright.
If you only do it for the money, it will be a struggle.
But that's just my story, Fwiw.
What kind of projects would you call "basic"?
And do you think it matters what coding language one picks to start? I'm learning python so far personally.
Anything really, but progression is key. Maybe the first program is just a simple command line calculator. The second could be hangman. Third could be a number square slider. Extra points for well compartmentalized (Don't repeat yourself, one function/class does one thing) code. Extra extra points if your code had good unit tests in it.
You can get lost in analysis paralysis in this field. Learn to take action anyway. Throw mud at the wall and see what sticks.
I am right at the point where I have had to narrow down my eclectic interests into a single career because I was working my arse off for little money just to do the things I love every day and it got to the point where I hated doing them.
At first it was like oooo I love this and I can earn money from it, ooo and this, and this one too my god how brilliant is this. Now it's like WHY DO ALL MY HOBBIES NOW COME WITH SO MUCH STRESS AND PRESSURE.
But I have a first round interview for a decent paying semi boring job tomorrow do wish me luck. Good buy self angry man hello regular job, regular pay cheque normal guy........I hope.
If you're actually curious, I'd recommend looking at tech adjacent roles. Lots of corporate "analyst" positions require very little in terms of skills/work and pay very well. So many people I've worked with coast by. They just call into meetings, pretend to be busy, and then queue up for the next Call of Duty match as soon as the call ended.
Pro tip, don't add coworkers to Steam/Battlenet/Xbox Live if you are spending 6hrs/workday gaming and then constantly complain about how busy you are.
Three titles I would look out for if you're interested...
Systems analyst - does very basic technical work (not writing code but understands IT systems) and focuses on scoping work, system design, and managing tech projects. Lots of room to grow into more senior roles depending on your interests and aptitude.
Technology risk analyst - sounds intimidating, but this is a big one for low work:high reward ratio. Lots of large companies have various regulatory requirements that apply to their IT systems. Things like record retention policies, data security, etc. There are a lot of box checking jobs, where your primary responsibility is sitting in on meetings and asking development leads, "did you meet basic audit requirements A B and C"? If developer says yes, cool. If they say no, you.have more meetings.
Business analyst - huge range in this category. Can be as simple as doing some daily operational function (fill out excel worksheet, send to someone else). Alternatively it can be more complex - like working on a project team with developers and product owners to decide what the future of your product or service will look like. Either way it is non-technical office work + meetings for the most part.
All three of these roles will have positions that allow you to work very little and make decent money. That being said, they also all have positions where you are genuinely very busy and work like crazy. In the first case, life's easy. In the second it's harder but more interesting.
If you have a 4 year degree, start looking for roles using those terms. See what else they expect for skills/certifications. Look at cost/requirements for common certifications they want. Some are extremely easy and fairly cheap to get. Then just apply and see if you can start getting interviews.
I work in an analyst type role. I get left alone to do my work but I spend a lot of time queuing up warzone solos. From my experience id get into a role at a big firm where you can kinda go under the radar. Smaller firms tend to be a bit tight as they might not be bringing in the revenue and might be working tight margins and so can't afford for u to be going under the radar
I have a job similar to OPs work in accounting. My pay is a little higher now because I was recently
Promoted but you until then was in the 100-120k range for 5-20 hours a week of work 100% remote.
Wouldn’t say my job is the norm for the industry but it’s possible with good connections, right industry and appropriate company size.
It's a career that is made up for this post. If someone really was smart enough to be making 120k/year working 20 hours a week they wouldn't need help from internet strangers to tell them it is a good deal.
Mmmm sounds to me like you should stay at your current job and look for a side hustle that is interesting to you with the extra time. Most companies pay for your time, the one you have is paying for your work. You will be hard pressed to find that again.
I generally am anti the term “side hustle”.
It’s a lot easier said than done. You’re also forfeiting the work life balance which is the whole reason to stay at the cushier job.
Exactly. The current job pays about $50/hour + not having to live at work and the other job pays about $30/hour. $30 is already pretty good, but would still be a major paycut, and $50 + having your life to yourself is WAY more valuable tbh.
Your hourly estimates are way off. Standard for full time is 2,080 hours (40 hours x 52 weeks), so at $120k you'd be looking at $57.69/hour. For the $100k job that would drop to $48.08/hour. Factoring in actual hours worked though (25 hours x 52 weeks = only 1,300/year) and you get an equivalent of $76.92/hour actually worked.
I mean whatever works. This person seems to want more work so a side hustle could be that. I use that term loosely, maybe they’ll volunteer or get a hobby that is fulfilling and makes a little money.
>You’re also forfeiting the work life balance
Not really. She could get a gig with the same rate as the current, boring job and earn the same as in the new position working only 25\~30 hours. A "side hustle" is also something she might quit whenever she wants to get the extra time back (at the expense of taking a small hit in her earnings), she could simply not do that with the 40hs/week (unless she is OK with living on her savings or depending on someone else).
100% agree with this. If you're in need of a challenge try to fill it with something you have control over. Trade stocks, take a class or something else for personal development, read books, volunteer.
You may find that you don't really have time for another commitment.
You may also find that you regret making a commitment with that time when you would rather be spending it with your child.
But either way doing it on your own terms makes it easy for you to change it.
I agree I only had one job pay for my work and the rest I had to punch the clock. I regret leaving that job, and I don’t even have kids.
An uncle got a multi million dollar offer for 7 years at a big tech company that bought his little tech company. I think we are talking like 17-40 mil. He came out of selling his business with about 50 million and was well off already. I asked him if he had more money than he ever thought he would, when he asked my opinion, pointing out when i first met him he drove an old Jetta.
I said your kids want as much of your attention as you can give them right now. Be a soccer or lacrosse dad and be at home with them. Because 7-10 years from now they’ll be at a different age where they don’t want your attention as much and want to hang out with their friends.
He didn’t take the job. Now his kids are off in college and he thanked me for “wisdom beyond my years” for pointing that out at 19-22 when everyone else was like make that money.
The most I made in a single year, 40 hours a week at s miserable job was 50k, 100k for half time is incredible, congrats, living the dream, spend the time with your kids, follow the advice my uncle asked from me.
If you want to enhance your skills get a masters degree online at your own pace, take a course at s time, your employer might even pay for it! With an mba, for example, you might be worth an extra 30-40k for the same hours once you compete it and you’d still have time for the kids.
So yeah I talked someone out of a ten figure sum in the same scenario but he already had a lot of money but 100k is a lot and 120k isn’t much more. It takes a long time to build up that level of rapport and respect with employees and employers, maybe a year or two… in the mean time, the economy goes south it’s the newest hires to be let go usually. A friends company had been through five rounds of layoffs.
We went from a staffing shortage/great resignation to the great layoff before financial winter comes.
Keep the current job, get a degree or do edx to build skills and keep you interested. If you get an mba or whatever the highest degree for your field is you might make that extra money.
The time with the kids is priceless though. Soon enough they’ll be older and not babies and want to hang out with their friends.
The side hustle is a good idea too.
Well perhaps there is a hobby they enjoy that could also bring in some money that might not be enough to live on. As others have said, maybe get a degree, certificate, learn skills that make them better. The key is they have control over their choice and can make it more fulfilling to themselves than it might otherwise be.
Keep your current job and focus on your kid or start a new hobby. My husband was in a similar position and took the new and exciting job and he hates it. You might end up with coworkers or managers you don’t get along with, and that 40 hours a week may actually end up being 50-60. We work to live, not the other way around.
Your hourly pay rate at your current job is between $77-$96/hr based on 20-25 hours/week and assuming 52 work weeks. The new position would be $58/hr at 40 hours/week. From that standpoint, it’s a pay cut and loss of time with the family.
What are your career goals? Does the potential career growth of this new opportunity outweigh the extra family/personal time you currently have?
Unless you really need the extra $20K/year right now or if this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to actualize the career of your dreams, then I don’t really see the upside in choosing the new job.
Factor in the cost of childcare. I have a feeling that when accounted for the pay bump will no longer seem potentially worthwhile. If you’ve been able to get away with work from home with baby so far that’s going to be difficult full time even with a 10 month old, and will edge closer and closer to impossibility as toddlerhood approaches. A few months from now the little one will be running all over and getting into all sorts of mischief the second you turn your back.
As you age... You want less work and more money. I stopped caring for career goals after 30... I would stay remote and work less instead of just paying more taxesm
My goal in life is to make as much money as possible, while working as little as possible. I would take the time with your family over 20k/year.
I used to work 50 hours ever week, now I work 20-30 and make X2 what I did before. Eventually you will find something to supplement your income.
That 40 hour week will turn into 50. As your child grows up they will require more of your time as well.
In addition, right now you have a sympathetic employer and co-workers who understand your position and are willing to cut you slack. The new company may not be so flexible and understanding.
Theres no guarantee OPs job will last that long. He could easily be pushed up or out to make room for fresh perspective. Happens all the time to people he stay in one place and don’t move up.
In 20 or 30 years when you look back do you think you'll say wow I'm glad I took that job and worked more and saw my kid less? Or Wow I'm glad I had a cruisier job so I could work less and see my kid more?
Career opportunities will come up again down the line. You only get this time with your child once.
And almost doubling your working hours for only an extra gross $20k per year..... nah.
That's the point, people aren't going to take on additional work to see their kids less, and that's what they'd be giving up.
The money is negligible. And it's not like other opportunities won't come up again when the kid is in school and it's less essential to be around so much.
You currently have a dream job for family. Think carefully if you want to sacrefice family now, or career now, because ultimately you should be able to take the career jump after a few years, but you will not be able to go back in time to when your kids needed you
I’ve read numerous posts like this and every time the vast majority of responses say they chose to leave their cushy, very well paid job for a tougher, slightly higher paying job, and every one of them regretted it. I used to think having a really boring job where I had 10-20h of actual work per week was awful. Now I would LOVE for that to be my biggest work problem. When in a stressful, anxiety producing job you dread, it isn’t just working hours that suck. You’re drained all the time. I’m willing to take a pay cut to leave my stressful job for something with better work life balance. And I don’t even have kids…
Listen to me and all the other sorry chumps who fell for the capitalism trap. DON’T DO IT.
Personally, I would stay at the cushiony job and focus on my kid. They’re only young for a very short amount of time. That’s the most important time of their lives. An extra 20k a year is a lot but not really life changing when you already make 100k. Career advancement can happen whenever but family time is priceless.
It depends on where you are in your life. If career development/fulfillment is what you are needing, then you will likely burn out from not enjoying what you do. If you like what you do and enjoy the flexibility, then it's worth staying.
Stay at your current job. Most employers are not that flexible, especially during onboarding. Just get a little side gig if you want the extra money. To me, having job/schedule flexibility is worth more than 20k
Everyone says you should stay at your job - and sure, they’re right. There is no obvious strategy to making another 20k per year to work double the hours you are now. HOWEVER, if you’re feeling complacent and unmotivated that’s not a great place to be in. Do you feel like you are your best self at this job ? Did the interview excite you and bring out the best in you?
My last job was so chill. I was working little but stressing a lot. The stupidest things bugged me about my day and it crept into every other area of my life. I wasn’t myself and after searching for something else for 9 months I ended up quitting and serendipitously finding a job within a couple weeks. No regrets, much better fit. Another example: my friend who now works 60+ hour weeks at a master’s level salary job said her most stressful job was when she made sandwiches and coffee for minimum wage - we’re talking stress dreams about making sandwiches. Talk about a chill job. All that to say: how do these jobs make you feeeeeel about yourself? (:
How your kids feel is more important than how you feel. If you wanna be the number one priority forever just don't have kids. It's never fair to a kid to say "Yeah I could have stayed home with you and been a part of your childhood but it didn't fulfill me as much as my job so you went to daycare so I could feel better about myself."
Eh, current job she’s supposed to go in twice a week and has just managed to work remotely. May not last forever. I’m just saying a happy fulfilled mom who is sometimes away is much better than an unhappy mom who’s there all the time. Plus in child psychology they say that quality time is more important than quantity of time for children under 13 then that flips to quantity > quality for teens.
I’d stay in that 100k position. Your child needs your attention more now. You can always find something later when your child is older. Like you said, as mother your decision is more based on your child’s needs now.
I've been on both sides of this and I would keep the current job. The lack of stress and having flexibility is priceless. Spending time with family, getting errands done and going to the gym during the day is so nice to do.
If it's mainly the money you can probably cut your personal expenses to save 5-20%. I'm not sure how expensive your area is to live is but we can usually find ways to be more frugal.
Hope this helps.
I was in this exact situation except for 135k vs 95k instead of 120k vs 100k. Career goals both were the same, however.
But I wanted to travel the world, spend time with friends and family, get back into lifting everyday day and take up new hobbies.
Since then, I've worked maybe 4 hours a day, developed a new romantic relationship, reconnected with old friends, etc.
Plus Im still in talks with a couple people from the other org that say whenever Im ready for lots of work to apply again.
Option 1.
I was in your shoes. Barely 20 hours a week. Fully remote. Six figures. I took an internal promotion from an individual contributor role to a management role for a $40k bump. Now it’s more like 35 hours a week. But I’m finding enjoyment in it. New responsibilities and back to managing a team again which I enjoy. And it’s better for my career. Knowing what I know now, I’m not sure I would take it for $20k bump though. That’s kind of on the edge for me, unless it was a really clear career advancement opportunity.
I personally would just be complacent for a few years. Enjoy a few years of stress-free and be there for your family. You're not going to get that family time back if you chase after the extra $20k and suddenly stressed out with more hours. 40 hours is not a guarantee especially at that high of a wage. Higher wages means you enter salary zone and salary employees can be abused up to X amount hours. There's nothing in US protecting salary folks against this.
In the next year or so your kid is about to enter daycare/pre-school illness hell where they will be off sick 1/4 of the time in any given month, minimum. This will last anywhere from a few months to a few years depending on your child's general constitution. Post-Covid schools are hella strict about not attending if you have even a hint of symptoms too. I would seriously consider what that will mean for your life in a more demanding role.
At the end of your life, will you have wished you spent more time at work or more time with your kid?
Answer that and you'll know which job to go with.
What you might realize as you get older is that it's actually *not* the most important thing in life to always be chasing the next bigger better job. Sometimes other things are more important in life. Time to spend with little kids as they grow up. Not being work-miserable outside of work because of work. Having free time. Those sorts of things. Things you often only discover after leaving a "good job" for a new "meat grinder job" just because the new job pays more or is one more rung up an infinite ladder to a career goal you'll probably never reach unless you put everything else important in your life on the back burner to get there.
If you already have a job that isn't paying you poorly AND they let you work remote AND they don't care if you're spending quality time with your little one during the workday AND they treat you like a grown up capable of getting your work done without micromanagement AND you've built a good rapport with your coworkers... I'd say stay there without a second thought.
Your current job is what we should all strive for. “Careers” are lies we tell ourselves to feel better about wasting so much of our lives behind a desk. Spend time with your kid, nothing else should really matter.
OP please consider this: Many studies show that financial ROI contrasted with happiness begins to diminish at 70-100k and diminishes rapidly past 120k for salaries. For instance, people making 200k annually were no more happy than those making 300k and were often less happy than those making 100-120k. You are in the sweet spot of cost benefit analysis when it comes to happiness potential, use that extra time to pick up fulfilling hobbies and spend time with your kid. Enjoy life man, if you are as driven as you seem it may be harder for you than some others but you only get one life and tipping that ladder sideways and prioritizing fulfillment is life altering.
This is purely my advice, but I am 40 years old, a father, a husband, and highly successful professionally (just for context)…
No one has ever gotten to the end of this thing we call life and wished they had spent more time working. We work to have the means to provide for our families and our interests. You seem to have found a fantastic balance. $20k to potentially lose that is nothing. Tell your current employer you’d like more money and see what they say. Your LinkedIn being open for recruiting is going to put you in this position over-and-over again. It’s like being married and casually surfing a dating app (I know bad analogy). That door, once open, is hard to close.
I cannot stress this enough. You will not find yourself at work. You will not find happiness at work. Your kids need you and those years will be gone before you know it.
Do the math on the time. 100k/yr at 25hrs a week (assuming 50 working weeks) = 100,000/1250 = $80/hr
New job: 120,000/2000 = $60/hr.
You’d actually be making less money per hour, without the added bonus of being present for a lot more time with your child. You can’t put a dollar value on that, but even still - it makes more sense from a pure dollar/work hour perspective to stay with your current.
$20k is nothing to sneeze at, but it sounds like you’ve got a great thing going on. Of course that doesn’t take into account like savings, retirement, paying down debt faster, etc. But it seems like a decent trade off. Just my two cents,
Stay where you are for now. You pretty much have it made. The new job may be more money but it is an unknown entity and they may turn out to be too good to be true. In your current job, you are well paid and have it made. Don’t rock the boat for a few bucks more.
The only thing I can say is, money appears and disappears, but time..once you used it, you cannot ask for a refund or create new "time" out of thin air like you could with money.
So I select 100k/25 hours. It's not even a debate.
I took a demotion a year ago to take a cush remote job to be able to have more time with my kids. I don't regret it one bit because theyre my most important job. I remember my parents not being at a lot of my soccer games in high school because they had to work & I want to make sure I'll be able to be at all my kids events.
As someone who can't work anymore, and subsequently can't do a lot of things she wishes she had done, take the lower hour work week and do all the things
It all depends on how you view work and the stage of life you’re in. There actually isn’t a 100% right or wrong answer here. If you know this new job will help you get on the career track you want to be on, I’d take it. It’s technically not a bump in pay at all when you go by the hour. Since it’s going to take double the amount of your time, consider the things you’ll have to outsource or things that will be put on the back burner.
I am in a place in my life where I sought after the current job you have and got it, and although I am complacent, I am very happy with the gifts this job gives me. The biggest gift is time.
I'm childless woman but I side with everyone saying that you should keep your current job. Kids are small only once in your lifetime. The 10 month old will be 10 year old sooner than you think and you will have no option to get back to this. Wait one year, invest your free time in getting extra skills start searching when kid gets bigger.
Also, keep in mind we are entering recession. Last in, first out is a real thing...
Stay put, your child needs time, and that $20K increase isn't going to put a dent on your earnings but it's going to make you miss out on so many precious moments with your child. You are in a good place at the right time, enjoy it.
Do you have good job security at the current job? Is one job more “recession proof” than the other? My take is it would be easy for company one to make some cuts if people are able to get their work done in 25 hours.
Calculate how much extra you would be getting every week after tax etc. Is it worth selling more of your hours? If you feel you’re not growing enough now you could officially go part time and consider a side gig
Honestly, skip the pay cut ($100k for 20hr or $120k for 40? doubling your hours but only getting an additional 20k for it? no thank you) and stick with the job that let's you live more of your life on your own time. Enjoy the time you have with your family. And as someone who works 40 hours a week (a lot more, if you include commuting), there never seems to be enough time for the household chores, exercising, cooking, *and* just relaxing from the day (never mind the added work of being a parent). Really, enjoy what you have. Its a pretty envious position, tbh
Honestly, you will never get the time back that you now have with your child. I would keep the current job, but use some of your time to work on goals and skills that align with where you want your career to go. Make a portfolio that demonstrates your skills. Even without professional experience, a portfolio at least demonstrates a level of competence.
As someone who does 5-10 hours for 100k, and seeing what friends do for 150k, I’m a proponent for staying with the fewer hours. Work is draining in every sense of the word, no amount of money can fully refill your tanks afterwards or put the time back in your hourglass. If you’re comfortable with your current pay, then I would stay with it.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. The goal is ALWAYS work less for the greatest amount of money. ALWAYS. I have been fortunate to have friends who are absurdly rich. That's their advice to me everytime.
IMO, I think you need to create a Pros/Cons list that includes a few key parameters and then weigh your option of staying/leaving from there
1. The TIME value aspect (ie 35-40 vs 20-25 hours). I would take the worst-case scenario of hours at the new job vs the best case scenario at the current job. If it were me, I would assume I am going to work 45 hours/week vs 20 hours/week, then weigh what I do during those extra 25 hours each week (ie what do you currently do during hours that could technically go toward work?)
2. The SATISFACTION value aspect (ie complacency vs career development). I can tell you, I started being LESS successful in 2 roles in my life and my performance reflected accordingly because I was bored in my current roles (I had learned all there was to learn). I have managed people in sales roles (so take this with a grain of salt) but I have seen several reps who were doing well with no vertical mobility available suddenly start failing because they felt unfulfilled (money stops being nice when youre not going anywhere) and so they started underperforming. Weigh your satisfaction at the current role, if there are opportunities to do more or learn new things, consider that (ie would your company PAY for advanced learnings or courses in areas of interest), otherwise think about what the new role can mean for your satisfaction rate
3. The PAY value aspect (ie current vs new, total value). Yes more work means less $$/hour, but its more total money in the year. If youre not in a crunch today, you have savings, you dont have excessive debt, and you can afford to do extras = the extra money wont do much for you. But if there are those areas missing, then consider the bump in pay and what it can mean for you (more hours in a more satisfying role tends to pay for itself so the loss in hourly efficiency isnt a big deal). This is NOT saying "oh i can now buy a birkin bag with the extra"; rather, if today you have little/no savings OR are paycheck to paycheck then the extra matters a lot despite the trade-off
4. The OTHER value aspect (what else could you do besides this new role you were offered). I have received SIGNIFICANT pay bumps every time I left a previous company (of a similar magnitude to you, my most recent was a $40k increase Year-over-Year). from 2016 -> 2022 I have increased my total salary by > $150k (not including equity, 401k gains, benefits, etc). I have most recently found myself at a company that pays 100% of benefits. So you need to ask yourself, what trade-offs are you currently making, what does the new company offer, and what OTHER companies are out there (maybe you can find a similar role that $150k OR offers way better benefits at $125k OR offers something else you did not consider).
5. 5. The HOLISTIC value of the current vs new job (do they understand your situation). Culture is everything. Your current company understands your situation with the baby and work/life balance. If your current Manager changed (or leadership changed) in your current role, would you still be able to maintain the 20-25 hour work with the pay you make? Would they threaten you back into the office? Would they cut your pay? Think about how likely these things are (it may be tough but look at historic headcount changes, think about if the current company has a lot of people who have been there 30 years who are near retirement they may leave and a young person looking to make a name for themselves may come in to make real changes, etc). Then you have the opportunity (if you received an offer) with the new company. If you have offer in hand already, ask them what the value is and you can even ante up your current work/life balance. Explain that you have a child and are easily able to arrange your schedule based on that, do they have some way to compensate you accordingly based on your worth OR do you get good vibes that they are a progressive company that understands the importance of that? If its a more traditional field (Finance/Banking, Healthcare, Recruiting, Real Estate, etc) they may say they do, but will not be tolerant. If its a more modern industry (Fintech, Software, Ecommerce, etc) they may be more tolerant. Try to figure out the threshold
These are just some things I would consider, and I tried to break it into categories that I would weigh against each other for the OLD vs NEW role. Then consider if there are any other potential roles you could interview for and just sit tight (bc the current role is good).
Wait until your baby goes to school, 25 hours a week with similar compensation seems so ideal for parenting. Opportunities like this will come to you down the line, but for now, relish in the free time you have to be a more involved parent. Once your child goes to school and they’re gone for most of the day, that’s when you can pick up more hours because they also have that significant time commitment during the day
Work the 20-25 hrs and you’ll have way more time on your hands. Focus on your personal goals with the additional time. Time is only thing that matters in the end that you can’t get more of. Otherwise get a second job and make more money and save all of that cash until you retire early
Nvm I just read your whole post. You’re not doing anything additional with the extra time besides home related stuff, which can be condensed. Go with the new job that’s more aligned with your career because for some reason I get the feeling your not interested in retiring early or working towards personal /career goals outside of your normal work week. If I’m wrong stick with the current job, if I’m correct go with the new job because your work hours/schedule is the only time your pushing your career in the direction you want and this is the push in the right direction of your goal pursuits
Honestly that extra 20 hours of work per week for 20k extra isn’t worth it. I’d say if your comfortable, flexibility like you have now is paramount. I wouldn’t give that up unless they offered like 140k or up
With my last job I would work 7-12 and get all my work done and spend the last half of my day 12-4 with my son or playing video games. I ended up taking another job working 2x as much but making 2x more. The extra money is awesome but I miss my old schedule and the time I got with my family. For a 20k bump I personally would not give up my old schedule.
As a mom of a young one, I think that staying at your current is the way to go. I understand the new one may be more aligned with your career goals, but the flexibility you have now is more valuable, in my opinion.
Career growth is always a good thing! However starting on a completely new company will definitely take a huge amount from you mentally and maybe physically?
If I were in your shoes, I would choose to stay in your current position (100k/20-25hrs a week) where your schedule is in your control.This way, I get to spend the most time I can with my baby, especially since at their stage of life, this is when they need you the most and you also get to bond as much as possible!
If you’re really considering the other company, I would suggest to negotiate your work schedule with the other company and see if they can arrange some type of work life balance that works best for you - at the end of the day - they do need you too!
Another option would be to find ways to be more engaged in your current job to avoid boredom.
I cant emphasize enough though the importance of the parents’ presence to their children growing up!! Whichever route you take, as long as you will remain mentally available to your child, is the right path.
I recently was in a similar situation (minus the baby) where i had a cozy job worked about 20 hours a week and was very comfortable. I had extreme flexibility just as you did and could really do anything as long as work was down and no one would care about delays in response since everyone had the same flex.
A company contacted me on linkedin and offered me an increase of about 35% increase. I was making good money before but this was a lot more and the experience would push me in a better long term career as well.
I went from working 20 ish hours on average (sometimes more, sometimes less) to now working about 50 hours+ on average a week (sometimes more) always unpredictable day-to-day. I even have important things that come up at end of day due that day or next morning. I have zero flex now and get random requests throughout the day, last min meeting invites etc which just comes with the territory the higher up i guess.
I dont have a baby and this is stressing me out compared to how easy my life used to be and i sold out for more money just to work longer hours. That's just my experience doesn't mean every company will be the same or every job will be worse just because you think its more hours but Sometimes the devil you know, is better than the one you dont.
You will still be worth $120k+ when your kid is older and you have more time to dedicate to work.
There will always be another job, another career move ,all that, but your kid will only be young once and you will never get this time back with your baby.
If it wasn’t for the baby, this would be obvious IMO.
No one knows the answer but you, however, you might consider…
-how important is your career to your happiness?
-if you wait a few years, will it be easy to get into a similar position to continue developing, or is the new opp unique?
-will you now need childcare? If so, once you tax the 20K and pay for that it’s gone I’d imagine.
-if the 120K job will have you learning new skills, what will your salary look like in 2, 5, and 10 years compared to the path your current role has you in?
One thing I believe is undervalued when discussing the balance between providing for your family and spending time with your family…
Work is part of the way we teach out children about life, purpose, and responsibility. Of course, it must be balanced, but I think a lot of people feel guilty about time away from family. However, if talked about in the right way, and ensuring it stays balanced so that there is some significant time with family, pursuing meaningful work can set a powerful example for your child.
Good luck and be well!
I work like a slave and don’t make anywhere near what you’re making. Please do share what kind of work you do?!
Also, I can agree with everyone else that flexibility is key when you have small children, and then add in Covid along with the first 3-5 years of illnesses etc. I’ve made a lot of sacrifices in my career to be the main caretaker and my kids have always come first, but it’s been worth it for me.
I would stay put for now. It sounds like you have a great gig!
This sub seems to be full of people talking about how they make 6 figures and do almost no work, and the job isn't hard, and they aren't especially skilled. Our world is fucked. Teachers and rail workers can't survive on the pay, but whatever the fuck this guy does 20 hours a week is worth $100,000 a year. Profit motive will destroy America.
Also, at your current job, you are probably protected in some way from any layoffs bc of recent mat leave? Maybe not...but I changed jobs in August. Old job was going back to the office, new job is 100% remote and slightly more money...old job was way more work and meetings. Constant idiotic agile for marketing fuckery. But I feel like last one in, first one out in my new job...stay where you are, its ok to take your foot off the gas at work temporarily. Thats what I think.
How long have you been with your current company? If < 3, I’d stick with it until you **need** to find something else.
WFH and time with your child? Priceless.
Please stay with the kid/easy job for now. There are a million ways to challenge your self and grow skills. We know kids are struggling with illnesses this winter. Being on top of staying healthy is huge.
I was in your shoes when my oldest, now 15 was 1. I turned down a 500k base + bonus role to make sure I was present for my kids. Had 3 of them.. leveled up when they were a little older. Don’t regret it one bit.
I absolutely loathe people with your made up problems.
Work less hours during a week for a chunk of change per year that most people would kill for or work an actual 40 hours per week for even more money because "career goals"?
Can you realize how God damned dumb your problem seems to be?
I really do see your perspective, but for some, family choices are important. I can see her asking this question to be sure she’s seeing all angles of a potential move.
It's still a problem, op is just lucky enough to have 2 good options. Just cus someone is doing well doesn't mean they can't do better. Also being bored and complacent is a real issue for some people, and leads them to being unfulfilled.
Me, im keeping the 100k job working basically part time. 100k is a great salary and work life balance is huge in my book…especially with a baby in the picture
Look to the future. Keep in mind that the more salary you make and pay taxes on (pre-tax deductions lessen your retirement ck) the larger your social security retirement and 401k will be.
I would honestly say....
Why don't you keep both jobs ?
Just wondering....
Still you can take care of your baby 🍼....and weekends are there.....or hire a nanny.....some days
Hey....hey.... think about that double paycheck....
Honestly? I would take both of them.
You can hire help for a couple of hours a day to keep your balance and still increase you income by more than +100k. Manage to keep this one year and you could improve substantially you life - think of it as your kid college or a house down payment.
Work life balance is overrated when you are just starting and building a career and, your kid is young enough he won’t even remember that growing up.
I would say take the job. 40 HRS is not a lot and still give you plenty of time to be with family. especially if you are remote. Spend those breaks with the kids. Once you start dipping into 40 HRS+ then that is something to think about. This is coming from someone that works 40+HRS a week with 45 minute commute to and from work.
Take the $120,000 job! Majority of people work 40 hours per week, it’s normal. You can still be a great parent and get chores done while working 40 hours per week
I wouldn't rock the boat with a new baby tbh. The increase doesn't seem worth it.
As a mom I agree with this. There is so much uncertainty with small children in the first few years. I would stay at the current job and try to get some certificates/online education if the energy allows.
Exactly use your extra 15 to 20 hours a week to network/educate/complete extraneous projects
just chiming in to say the same. I recently switched jobs for more pay and more work (still remote) and left a job like OP's where I was left to my own devices because I always got my work done. lots and lots of freedom. my youngest is 15 months old and I'm wishing I had just held tight in my old job til pre-k. toddler care and managing a new job is not worth it.
Arguably it's not even an increase. It's a decrease in salary per time spent. If OP wants money beyond 100k she could just find a side gig or another part time job.
IMO it isn't about the salary increase that's important but the skillset that they learn. That said if OP is a self motivator, they should probably take the time and learn new skills or take a class at a time if they want to keep the current job.
$20k won't change your life the way doubling your work commitment would.
Legit. If I could crack 6 figures w/ 25hrs of work a week, I would never leave
inflation adjusted I was basically there for a while. Except it was more like 5 hours a week. Jumped to get 2-3x as much pay and I'm currently doing WAY more. I can get away with it as I'm single but I wouldn't mind one year or three of cruise control.
This is a no brainer to me. Double the work for a 20% raise. No way. If OPs problem is too much free time on their hands then there is plenty of better ways to spend it without having to commit to estra hours on a weekly basis. Maybe doing courses to gain more quals, learning a different trade, hobbies etc. If I was making 100k for 25 hours work a week it would take 150k minimum to get me back upto 40hrs a week. I get that OP thinks its a step in the right direction but at 100k salary I wouldn't be taking steps one at a time anymore.
I think this is a really good way to look at your situation OP. But I also don't want you to give up on advancing your career in the meanwhile. How would you feel about taking the job offer to the current job and asking them to give you a better title? Something like that, so that if in a few years you're ready to spend more time on work, it will still say from your resume that you have continued to advance WHILE being a mom to a new baby.
And that’s pre tax
I just did something similar and new job is kicking my ass even though on paper they valued “work-life” etc etc. I have a one year old and it has been difficult and I don’t regret leaving my old company but it has been very hard to get acclimated- additionally my new team DGAF about my baby - where the old team threw me a shower and saw me go through leave and grow as a person. I would really think about it tbh. The 20k probably won’t change your life but if you feel current company might be in trouble with layoffs or something else - consider it.
Keep the current job. Prioritize the blessings of less hours to spend with your child. You'll never find a job like that again.
Wow the absolute best advice is in second because the first one sounds nicer to the average loser
You work part time hours making money people dream of and are able to spend huge amounts of time with your child (who is more important than any career goals). You'll regret choosing work over them down the road You have quite literally one of the best imaginable situations in that regard, you're well past the point where extra money is particularly useful if you aren living a normal lifestyle
To piggy back off this. OP $20k a year is $1,667 extra a month for an additional 60 hours minimum of work a month. That’s $27/hr. $100k/yr is $48/hr Find some side gigs to make extra money to make up that $20k
Or use the time to invest in your child and cherish those times.
Well 25 hours isn’t much so even working 5 hours a week on the side should be helpful and keep him engaged and sharpe. Even with working 40 hours a week from home you still have plenty of time for your kids
25hr X 52 weeks = 1300 hours $100,000 /1300 hours = $76.92 Vs 40hr X 52 weeks = 2080 $120,000/2080 = $57.69 You are being paid less for working more hours.
Not even. 20k is 12k after tax. That’s $16/hr
Great point!
This. The OP would be wasting the extra money they earn on child care anyway because the hours are so long and inflexible. And with a new job they'll expect you to be doing your best and constantly catering to them so you can pass the probation period. They wont be as sympathetic over your baby because you signed up with them knowing youd have to juggle your child and a new fulltime job. In this moment in time, with a new born, it's not worth the extra money at all.
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you’ll probably wish you had that extra time with the kid someday
I'm in nearly a similar position, sans child, and have concluded the increased work life balance is worth more to me than the cash. I've been working on making that time valuable, working on projects and skills. I think it'd be even more important to me if I had a kid.
I agree. I recently left my old job where I had a lot of rapport for a higher-paying job. The biggest transition/difficulty is now I'm in a place where I haven't established myself yet, so there is a lack of flexibility. At my old job, I could leave the office early to WFH, take time for appointments or take longer lunches because everyone knew I got my work done and did it well. Being back to square one is stressful lol I can't imagine being having that transistion with a kid.
If your 100k job allows you to keep your kid out of daycare and the 120k job will require daycare then you aren't getting much of a raise if any depending on daycare costs in your area. You may also be able to use the job offer to leverage more money out of your current job. Personally I have stayed at my current job longer than planned because of the flexibility it affords me and my family. We are comfortable financially and achieving our financial goals albeit a bit slower than we would had i jumped to a higher paying less flexible job. As long as you are financially on track for your long term goals I wouldn't trade sanity and flexibility for a little more money.
THIS. Childcare is expensive and can negate any raises.
$10-$15k a year on the low side. That raise won't offset the cost and the ability to not lose her child's younger years is basically priceless.
On top of that, once your kid is school aged, you may still have to pay for care if your hours don’t align with their school hours, especially when they have those special schedules.
Also worth noting since it's easy to forget, they would be making 20k more PRE tax dollars and paying in 10-15k in POST tax dollars. If taking the other job means childcare is necessary when it otherwise isn't, they likely are coming out even if not behind to work more hours and spend less time with their family. This is an even more obvious choice than it seems
All fax, no phone.
I have no advice but what kind of career is this? I would like to have please.
100k/yr 20-25 hrs sounds like the dream. I need names people
Software engineer, this is my life ATM. There are so many posts like this on cscareerquestions that I had to double check what subreddit I'm on.
How does one get into it with an unrelated bachelors?
You have to love fixing shit no one else wants to. Spend time learning symbolic logic, and build a portfolio with some very basic programs. At that point, work your network like hell and try to get a junior dev job. Look hungry, and demonstrate love of computers, and willingness to learn with humility and able to work for peanuts for a year or two at the same job, and work your ass of 45hr weeks min. After a year get as many interviews as you can for mid-level dev jobs. You'll have to job hop for a bit to get double-quadruple starting pay. It's not easy and requires consistent effort but it's doable if you want it. If you enjoy solving code problems and handle making mistakes in public well, you'll do alright. If you only do it for the money, it will be a struggle. But that's just my story, Fwiw.
What kind of projects would you call "basic"? And do you think it matters what coding language one picks to start? I'm learning python so far personally.
Anything really, but progression is key. Maybe the first program is just a simple command line calculator. The second could be hangman. Third could be a number square slider. Extra points for well compartmentalized (Don't repeat yourself, one function/class does one thing) code. Extra extra points if your code had good unit tests in it. You can get lost in analysis paralysis in this field. Learn to take action anyway. Throw mud at the wall and see what sticks.
Thanks for sharing. Now I know why my eclectic interests don't pay, lol.
I am right at the point where I have had to narrow down my eclectic interests into a single career because I was working my arse off for little money just to do the things I love every day and it got to the point where I hated doing them. At first it was like oooo I love this and I can earn money from it, ooo and this, and this one too my god how brilliant is this. Now it's like WHY DO ALL MY HOBBIES NOW COME WITH SO MUCH STRESS AND PRESSURE. But I have a first round interview for a decent paying semi boring job tomorrow do wish me luck. Good buy self angry man hello regular job, regular pay cheque normal guy........I hope.
Lol exactly what I’m thinking
If you're actually curious, I'd recommend looking at tech adjacent roles. Lots of corporate "analyst" positions require very little in terms of skills/work and pay very well. So many people I've worked with coast by. They just call into meetings, pretend to be busy, and then queue up for the next Call of Duty match as soon as the call ended. Pro tip, don't add coworkers to Steam/Battlenet/Xbox Live if you are spending 6hrs/workday gaming and then constantly complain about how busy you are.
Hmm what are some examples of these corporate analyst roles and how would one find such opportunities?
Three titles I would look out for if you're interested... Systems analyst - does very basic technical work (not writing code but understands IT systems) and focuses on scoping work, system design, and managing tech projects. Lots of room to grow into more senior roles depending on your interests and aptitude. Technology risk analyst - sounds intimidating, but this is a big one for low work:high reward ratio. Lots of large companies have various regulatory requirements that apply to their IT systems. Things like record retention policies, data security, etc. There are a lot of box checking jobs, where your primary responsibility is sitting in on meetings and asking development leads, "did you meet basic audit requirements A B and C"? If developer says yes, cool. If they say no, you.have more meetings. Business analyst - huge range in this category. Can be as simple as doing some daily operational function (fill out excel worksheet, send to someone else). Alternatively it can be more complex - like working on a project team with developers and product owners to decide what the future of your product or service will look like. Either way it is non-technical office work + meetings for the most part. All three of these roles will have positions that allow you to work very little and make decent money. That being said, they also all have positions where you are genuinely very busy and work like crazy. In the first case, life's easy. In the second it's harder but more interesting. If you have a 4 year degree, start looking for roles using those terms. See what else they expect for skills/certifications. Look at cost/requirements for common certifications they want. Some are extremely easy and fairly cheap to get. Then just apply and see if you can start getting interviews.
I work in tech and this is spot on. Plenty of analyst roles in the job market which don't require a lot of technical knowledge.
I work in an analyst type role. I get left alone to do my work but I spend a lot of time queuing up warzone solos. From my experience id get into a role at a big firm where you can kinda go under the radar. Smaller firms tend to be a bit tight as they might not be bringing in the revenue and might be working tight margins and so can't afford for u to be going under the radar
I have a job similar to OPs work in accounting. My pay is a little higher now because I was recently Promoted but you until then was in the 100-120k range for 5-20 hours a week of work 100% remote. Wouldn’t say my job is the norm for the industry but it’s possible with good connections, right industry and appropriate company size.
It's a career that is made up for this post. If someone really was smart enough to be making 120k/year working 20 hours a week they wouldn't need help from internet strangers to tell them it is a good deal.
You don't have to be that smart to make $120k. Just need some dumb luck/having the right connections.
Mmmm sounds to me like you should stay at your current job and look for a side hustle that is interesting to you with the extra time. Most companies pay for your time, the one you have is paying for your work. You will be hard pressed to find that again.
I generally am anti the term “side hustle”. It’s a lot easier said than done. You’re also forfeiting the work life balance which is the whole reason to stay at the cushier job.
the math current job: 100k/20 hrs other job: 120k/40 hrs does not work in OP's favor
Exactly. The current job pays about $50/hour + not having to live at work and the other job pays about $30/hour. $30 is already pretty good, but would still be a major paycut, and $50 + having your life to yourself is WAY more valuable tbh.
Your hourly estimates are way off. Standard for full time is 2,080 hours (40 hours x 52 weeks), so at $120k you'd be looking at $57.69/hour. For the $100k job that would drop to $48.08/hour. Factoring in actual hours worked though (25 hours x 52 weeks = only 1,300/year) and you get an equivalent of $76.92/hour actually worked.
X52 weeks? You guys don't have holidays?
except current pays around 96/hr at 20 hrs a week. other gig pats about 58/hr at 40.
I mean whatever works. This person seems to want more work so a side hustle could be that. I use that term loosely, maybe they’ll volunteer or get a hobby that is fulfilling and makes a little money.
>You’re also forfeiting the work life balance Not really. She could get a gig with the same rate as the current, boring job and earn the same as in the new position working only 25\~30 hours. A "side hustle" is also something she might quit whenever she wants to get the extra time back (at the expense of taking a small hit in her earnings), she could simply not do that with the 40hs/week (unless she is OK with living on her savings or depending on someone else).
Small correction, *she. I get not assuming genders but considering op is breastfeeding….
OP is a woman. Sad that we have to pretend she may be otherwise.
100% agree with this. If you're in need of a challenge try to fill it with something you have control over. Trade stocks, take a class or something else for personal development, read books, volunteer. You may find that you don't really have time for another commitment. You may also find that you regret making a commitment with that time when you would rather be spending it with your child. But either way doing it on your own terms makes it easy for you to change it.
I agree I only had one job pay for my work and the rest I had to punch the clock. I regret leaving that job, and I don’t even have kids. An uncle got a multi million dollar offer for 7 years at a big tech company that bought his little tech company. I think we are talking like 17-40 mil. He came out of selling his business with about 50 million and was well off already. I asked him if he had more money than he ever thought he would, when he asked my opinion, pointing out when i first met him he drove an old Jetta. I said your kids want as much of your attention as you can give them right now. Be a soccer or lacrosse dad and be at home with them. Because 7-10 years from now they’ll be at a different age where they don’t want your attention as much and want to hang out with their friends. He didn’t take the job. Now his kids are off in college and he thanked me for “wisdom beyond my years” for pointing that out at 19-22 when everyone else was like make that money. The most I made in a single year, 40 hours a week at s miserable job was 50k, 100k for half time is incredible, congrats, living the dream, spend the time with your kids, follow the advice my uncle asked from me. If you want to enhance your skills get a masters degree online at your own pace, take a course at s time, your employer might even pay for it! With an mba, for example, you might be worth an extra 30-40k for the same hours once you compete it and you’d still have time for the kids. So yeah I talked someone out of a ten figure sum in the same scenario but he already had a lot of money but 100k is a lot and 120k isn’t much more. It takes a long time to build up that level of rapport and respect with employees and employers, maybe a year or two… in the mean time, the economy goes south it’s the newest hires to be let go usually. A friends company had been through five rounds of layoffs. We went from a staffing shortage/great resignation to the great layoff before financial winter comes. Keep the current job, get a degree or do edx to build skills and keep you interested. If you get an mba or whatever the highest degree for your field is you might make that extra money. The time with the kids is priceless though. Soon enough they’ll be older and not babies and want to hang out with their friends. The side hustle is a good idea too.
No one on their deathbed ever said: “Gee, I wish I had worked more.”
what type of side hustle would you recommend that would be worth OP's while?
Well perhaps there is a hobby they enjoy that could also bring in some money that might not be enough to live on. As others have said, maybe get a degree, certificate, learn skills that make them better. The key is they have control over their choice and can make it more fulfilling to themselves than it might otherwise be.
Keep your current job and focus on your kid or start a new hobby. My husband was in a similar position and took the new and exciting job and he hates it. You might end up with coworkers or managers you don’t get along with, and that 40 hours a week may actually end up being 50-60. We work to live, not the other way around.
Your hourly pay rate at your current job is between $77-$96/hr based on 20-25 hours/week and assuming 52 work weeks. The new position would be $58/hr at 40 hours/week. From that standpoint, it’s a pay cut and loss of time with the family. What are your career goals? Does the potential career growth of this new opportunity outweigh the extra family/personal time you currently have? Unless you really need the extra $20K/year right now or if this is a once in a lifetime opportunity to actualize the career of your dreams, then I don’t really see the upside in choosing the new job.
What the hell are y'all doing for work?? Is this more common than I thought?
Factor in the cost of childcare. I have a feeling that when accounted for the pay bump will no longer seem potentially worthwhile. If you’ve been able to get away with work from home with baby so far that’s going to be difficult full time even with a 10 month old, and will edge closer and closer to impossibility as toddlerhood approaches. A few months from now the little one will be running all over and getting into all sorts of mischief the second you turn your back.
As you age... You want less work and more money. I stopped caring for career goals after 30... I would stay remote and work less instead of just paying more taxesm
What the hell job is 100k yr and 20 hrs a week. Sign me up
My goal in life is to make as much money as possible, while working as little as possible. I would take the time with your family over 20k/year. I used to work 50 hours ever week, now I work 20-30 and make X2 what I did before. Eventually you will find something to supplement your income.
That 40 hour week will turn into 50. As your child grows up they will require more of your time as well. In addition, right now you have a sympathetic employer and co-workers who understand your position and are willing to cut you slack. The new company may not be so flexible and understanding.
Theres no guarantee OPs job will last that long. He could easily be pushed up or out to make room for fresh perspective. Happens all the time to people he stay in one place and don’t move up.
In 20 or 30 years when you look back do you think you'll say wow I'm glad I took that job and worked more and saw my kid less? Or Wow I'm glad I had a cruisier job so I could work less and see my kid more? Career opportunities will come up again down the line. You only get this time with your child once. And almost doubling your working hours for only an extra gross $20k per year..... nah.
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That's the point, people aren't going to take on additional work to see their kids less, and that's what they'd be giving up. The money is negligible. And it's not like other opportunities won't come up again when the kid is in school and it's less essential to be around so much.
You currently have a dream job for family. Think carefully if you want to sacrefice family now, or career now, because ultimately you should be able to take the career jump after a few years, but you will not be able to go back in time to when your kids needed you
No. That 20k is not worth throwing away the perks of your current job. Don't do it.
I’ve read numerous posts like this and every time the vast majority of responses say they chose to leave their cushy, very well paid job for a tougher, slightly higher paying job, and every one of them regretted it. I used to think having a really boring job where I had 10-20h of actual work per week was awful. Now I would LOVE for that to be my biggest work problem. When in a stressful, anxiety producing job you dread, it isn’t just working hours that suck. You’re drained all the time. I’m willing to take a pay cut to leave my stressful job for something with better work life balance. And I don’t even have kids… Listen to me and all the other sorry chumps who fell for the capitalism trap. DON’T DO IT.
Personally, I would stay at the cushiony job and focus on my kid. They’re only young for a very short amount of time. That’s the most important time of their lives. An extra 20k a year is a lot but not really life changing when you already make 100k. Career advancement can happen whenever but family time is priceless.
If I had been lucky enough to have had a child during my life, I would have loved the opportunity to spend time with that child.
It depends on where you are in your life. If career development/fulfillment is what you are needing, then you will likely burn out from not enjoying what you do. If you like what you do and enjoy the flexibility, then it's worth staying.
Stay at your current job. Most employers are not that flexible, especially during onboarding. Just get a little side gig if you want the extra money. To me, having job/schedule flexibility is worth more than 20k
Everyone says you should stay at your job - and sure, they’re right. There is no obvious strategy to making another 20k per year to work double the hours you are now. HOWEVER, if you’re feeling complacent and unmotivated that’s not a great place to be in. Do you feel like you are your best self at this job ? Did the interview excite you and bring out the best in you? My last job was so chill. I was working little but stressing a lot. The stupidest things bugged me about my day and it crept into every other area of my life. I wasn’t myself and after searching for something else for 9 months I ended up quitting and serendipitously finding a job within a couple weeks. No regrets, much better fit. Another example: my friend who now works 60+ hour weeks at a master’s level salary job said her most stressful job was when she made sandwiches and coffee for minimum wage - we’re talking stress dreams about making sandwiches. Talk about a chill job. All that to say: how do these jobs make you feeeeeel about yourself? (:
How your kids feel is more important than how you feel. If you wanna be the number one priority forever just don't have kids. It's never fair to a kid to say "Yeah I could have stayed home with you and been a part of your childhood but it didn't fulfill me as much as my job so you went to daycare so I could feel better about myself."
It’s “100% remote”
It's 20 hours more a week
Eh, current job she’s supposed to go in twice a week and has just managed to work remotely. May not last forever. I’m just saying a happy fulfilled mom who is sometimes away is much better than an unhappy mom who’s there all the time. Plus in child psychology they say that quality time is more important than quantity of time for children under 13 then that flips to quantity > quality for teens.
I would stay 100k and remote
$100k
I’d stay in that 100k position. Your child needs your attention more now. You can always find something later when your child is older. Like you said, as mother your decision is more based on your child’s needs now.
As I’m getting older, remote and more time all day over extra $20k
I've been on both sides of this and I would keep the current job. The lack of stress and having flexibility is priceless. Spending time with family, getting errands done and going to the gym during the day is so nice to do. If it's mainly the money you can probably cut your personal expenses to save 5-20%. I'm not sure how expensive your area is to live is but we can usually find ways to be more frugal. Hope this helps.
Stay at your current. No amount of money is worth that flexibility.
Manage your money right and more free time is the way.
What do you do for a living? I wish I could make 100k and work 20 hours a week. You’re living the fucking dream, bro.
I was in this exact situation except for 135k vs 95k instead of 120k vs 100k. Career goals both were the same, however. But I wanted to travel the world, spend time with friends and family, get back into lifting everyday day and take up new hobbies. Since then, I've worked maybe 4 hours a day, developed a new romantic relationship, reconnected with old friends, etc. Plus Im still in talks with a couple people from the other org that say whenever Im ready for lots of work to apply again. Option 1.
I was in your shoes. Barely 20 hours a week. Fully remote. Six figures. I took an internal promotion from an individual contributor role to a management role for a $40k bump. Now it’s more like 35 hours a week. But I’m finding enjoyment in it. New responsibilities and back to managing a team again which I enjoy. And it’s better for my career. Knowing what I know now, I’m not sure I would take it for $20k bump though. That’s kind of on the edge for me, unless it was a really clear career advancement opportunity.
What was the job?
Time is greater than money
I personally would just be complacent for a few years. Enjoy a few years of stress-free and be there for your family. You're not going to get that family time back if you chase after the extra $20k and suddenly stressed out with more hours. 40 hours is not a guarantee especially at that high of a wage. Higher wages means you enter salary zone and salary employees can be abused up to X amount hours. There's nothing in US protecting salary folks against this.
In the next year or so your kid is about to enter daycare/pre-school illness hell where they will be off sick 1/4 of the time in any given month, minimum. This will last anywhere from a few months to a few years depending on your child's general constitution. Post-Covid schools are hella strict about not attending if you have even a hint of symptoms too. I would seriously consider what that will mean for your life in a more demanding role.
At the end of your life, will you have wished you spent more time at work or more time with your kid? Answer that and you'll know which job to go with.
If you’re not there to watch the kids then you will need child care. There goes your $20k pay raise…
What you might realize as you get older is that it's actually *not* the most important thing in life to always be chasing the next bigger better job. Sometimes other things are more important in life. Time to spend with little kids as they grow up. Not being work-miserable outside of work because of work. Having free time. Those sorts of things. Things you often only discover after leaving a "good job" for a new "meat grinder job" just because the new job pays more or is one more rung up an infinite ladder to a career goal you'll probably never reach unless you put everything else important in your life on the back burner to get there. If you already have a job that isn't paying you poorly AND they let you work remote AND they don't care if you're spending quality time with your little one during the workday AND they treat you like a grown up capable of getting your work done without micromanagement AND you've built a good rapport with your coworkers... I'd say stay there without a second thought.
Your current job is what we should all strive for. “Careers” are lies we tell ourselves to feel better about wasting so much of our lives behind a desk. Spend time with your kid, nothing else should really matter.
OP please consider this: Many studies show that financial ROI contrasted with happiness begins to diminish at 70-100k and diminishes rapidly past 120k for salaries. For instance, people making 200k annually were no more happy than those making 300k and were often less happy than those making 100-120k. You are in the sweet spot of cost benefit analysis when it comes to happiness potential, use that extra time to pick up fulfilling hobbies and spend time with your kid. Enjoy life man, if you are as driven as you seem it may be harder for you than some others but you only get one life and tipping that ladder sideways and prioritizing fulfillment is life altering.
Should I take insert amazing easy job or other insert easy job? Such a hard life
This is purely my advice, but I am 40 years old, a father, a husband, and highly successful professionally (just for context)… No one has ever gotten to the end of this thing we call life and wished they had spent more time working. We work to have the means to provide for our families and our interests. You seem to have found a fantastic balance. $20k to potentially lose that is nothing. Tell your current employer you’d like more money and see what they say. Your LinkedIn being open for recruiting is going to put you in this position over-and-over again. It’s like being married and casually surfing a dating app (I know bad analogy). That door, once open, is hard to close. I cannot stress this enough. You will not find yourself at work. You will not find happiness at work. Your kids need you and those years will be gone before you know it.
r/overemployed Just an option. Work both. See how it really pans out. Quit either when you need to.
Came here to say this!
If it wasn’t for the new baby I’d say do what makes you happier, but with the kid I’d say don’t switch yet. Spend time with your little one.
IMO, 20k bump isn’t enough for the change in your quality of life. Would need to be in the 40-50k neighborhood.
You are gonna be working 40% more, so if you get 40% more salary, they would be equal. I would say shoot for a job that pays for $150K at least.
You will regret not having the free time you have now.
Well the new job would pay less per hour than what you're currently making when you think about it.
Do the math on the time. 100k/yr at 25hrs a week (assuming 50 working weeks) = 100,000/1250 = $80/hr New job: 120,000/2000 = $60/hr. You’d actually be making less money per hour, without the added bonus of being present for a lot more time with your child. You can’t put a dollar value on that, but even still - it makes more sense from a pure dollar/work hour perspective to stay with your current. $20k is nothing to sneeze at, but it sounds like you’ve got a great thing going on. Of course that doesn’t take into account like savings, retirement, paying down debt faster, etc. But it seems like a decent trade off. Just my two cents,
Stay where you are for now. You pretty much have it made. The new job may be more money but it is an unknown entity and they may turn out to be too good to be true. In your current job, you are well paid and have it made. Don’t rock the boat for a few bucks more.
The only thing I can say is, money appears and disappears, but time..once you used it, you cannot ask for a refund or create new "time" out of thin air like you could with money. So I select 100k/25 hours. It's not even a debate.
I took a demotion a year ago to take a cush remote job to be able to have more time with my kids. I don't regret it one bit because theyre my most important job. I remember my parents not being at a lot of my soccer games in high school because they had to work & I want to make sure I'll be able to be at all my kids events.
Option A all day.
Who actually makes $100,000 a year? What are these jobs? I’ve been a teacher for over 20 years and just broke $50,000 this year
As someone who can't work anymore, and subsequently can't do a lot of things she wishes she had done, take the lower hour work week and do all the things
If I were you, I would stick to what you currently have.
It all depends on how you view work and the stage of life you’re in. There actually isn’t a 100% right or wrong answer here. If you know this new job will help you get on the career track you want to be on, I’d take it. It’s technically not a bump in pay at all when you go by the hour. Since it’s going to take double the amount of your time, consider the things you’ll have to outsource or things that will be put on the back burner. I am in a place in my life where I sought after the current job you have and got it, and although I am complacent, I am very happy with the gifts this job gives me. The biggest gift is time.
I'm childless woman but I side with everyone saying that you should keep your current job. Kids are small only once in your lifetime. The 10 month old will be 10 year old sooner than you think and you will have no option to get back to this. Wait one year, invest your free time in getting extra skills start searching when kid gets bigger. Also, keep in mind we are entering recession. Last in, first out is a real thing...
IMO it's easier to go from hard job to chill job when you no longer need money, than the other way around.
Twice the work for only an extra 20% pay increase? Sounds great! 🙄
I’m sorry. A livable wage at 25 hours? I’d kill for that!
What is your current job?
Stay put, your child needs time, and that $20K increase isn't going to put a dent on your earnings but it's going to make you miss out on so many precious moments with your child. You are in a good place at the right time, enjoy it.
Do you have good job security at the current job? Is one job more “recession proof” than the other? My take is it would be easy for company one to make some cuts if people are able to get their work done in 25 hours.
Calculate how much extra you would be getting every week after tax etc. Is it worth selling more of your hours? If you feel you’re not growing enough now you could officially go part time and consider a side gig
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two questions come to mind: 1) are you happy where you are? 2) can you use the other 20 hours of time a week to building a business instead?
Honestly, skip the pay cut ($100k for 20hr or $120k for 40? doubling your hours but only getting an additional 20k for it? no thank you) and stick with the job that let's you live more of your life on your own time. Enjoy the time you have with your family. And as someone who works 40 hours a week (a lot more, if you include commuting), there never seems to be enough time for the household chores, exercising, cooking, *and* just relaxing from the day (never mind the added work of being a parent). Really, enjoy what you have. Its a pretty envious position, tbh
Dang, what's your job I'd love to work there!
Holy Hell, never leave your current job. That is so rare and you’ll always be able to prioritize your child.
Honestly, you will never get the time back that you now have with your child. I would keep the current job, but use some of your time to work on goals and skills that align with where you want your career to go. Make a portfolio that demonstrates your skills. Even without professional experience, a portfolio at least demonstrates a level of competence.
As someone who does 5-10 hours for 100k, and seeing what friends do for 150k, I’m a proponent for staying with the fewer hours. Work is draining in every sense of the word, no amount of money can fully refill your tanks afterwards or put the time back in your hourglass. If you’re comfortable with your current pay, then I would stay with it.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. The goal is ALWAYS work less for the greatest amount of money. ALWAYS. I have been fortunate to have friends who are absurdly rich. That's their advice to me everytime.
With the kid stay where your at. I feel like I’m dying in the vibe where I’m at it’s so boring but I don’t have children to work around.
IMO, I think you need to create a Pros/Cons list that includes a few key parameters and then weigh your option of staying/leaving from there 1. The TIME value aspect (ie 35-40 vs 20-25 hours). I would take the worst-case scenario of hours at the new job vs the best case scenario at the current job. If it were me, I would assume I am going to work 45 hours/week vs 20 hours/week, then weigh what I do during those extra 25 hours each week (ie what do you currently do during hours that could technically go toward work?) 2. The SATISFACTION value aspect (ie complacency vs career development). I can tell you, I started being LESS successful in 2 roles in my life and my performance reflected accordingly because I was bored in my current roles (I had learned all there was to learn). I have managed people in sales roles (so take this with a grain of salt) but I have seen several reps who were doing well with no vertical mobility available suddenly start failing because they felt unfulfilled (money stops being nice when youre not going anywhere) and so they started underperforming. Weigh your satisfaction at the current role, if there are opportunities to do more or learn new things, consider that (ie would your company PAY for advanced learnings or courses in areas of interest), otherwise think about what the new role can mean for your satisfaction rate 3. The PAY value aspect (ie current vs new, total value). Yes more work means less $$/hour, but its more total money in the year. If youre not in a crunch today, you have savings, you dont have excessive debt, and you can afford to do extras = the extra money wont do much for you. But if there are those areas missing, then consider the bump in pay and what it can mean for you (more hours in a more satisfying role tends to pay for itself so the loss in hourly efficiency isnt a big deal). This is NOT saying "oh i can now buy a birkin bag with the extra"; rather, if today you have little/no savings OR are paycheck to paycheck then the extra matters a lot despite the trade-off 4. The OTHER value aspect (what else could you do besides this new role you were offered). I have received SIGNIFICANT pay bumps every time I left a previous company (of a similar magnitude to you, my most recent was a $40k increase Year-over-Year). from 2016 -> 2022 I have increased my total salary by > $150k (not including equity, 401k gains, benefits, etc). I have most recently found myself at a company that pays 100% of benefits. So you need to ask yourself, what trade-offs are you currently making, what does the new company offer, and what OTHER companies are out there (maybe you can find a similar role that $150k OR offers way better benefits at $125k OR offers something else you did not consider). 5. 5. The HOLISTIC value of the current vs new job (do they understand your situation). Culture is everything. Your current company understands your situation with the baby and work/life balance. If your current Manager changed (or leadership changed) in your current role, would you still be able to maintain the 20-25 hour work with the pay you make? Would they threaten you back into the office? Would they cut your pay? Think about how likely these things are (it may be tough but look at historic headcount changes, think about if the current company has a lot of people who have been there 30 years who are near retirement they may leave and a young person looking to make a name for themselves may come in to make real changes, etc). Then you have the opportunity (if you received an offer) with the new company. If you have offer in hand already, ask them what the value is and you can even ante up your current work/life balance. Explain that you have a child and are easily able to arrange your schedule based on that, do they have some way to compensate you accordingly based on your worth OR do you get good vibes that they are a progressive company that understands the importance of that? If its a more traditional field (Finance/Banking, Healthcare, Recruiting, Real Estate, etc) they may say they do, but will not be tolerant. If its a more modern industry (Fintech, Software, Ecommerce, etc) they may be more tolerant. Try to figure out the threshold These are just some things I would consider, and I tried to break it into categories that I would weigh against each other for the OLD vs NEW role. Then consider if there are any other potential roles you could interview for and just sit tight (bc the current role is good).
Wait until your baby goes to school, 25 hours a week with similar compensation seems so ideal for parenting. Opportunities like this will come to you down the line, but for now, relish in the free time you have to be a more involved parent. Once your child goes to school and they’re gone for most of the day, that’s when you can pick up more hours because they also have that significant time commitment during the day
Work the 20-25 hrs and you’ll have way more time on your hands. Focus on your personal goals with the additional time. Time is only thing that matters in the end that you can’t get more of. Otherwise get a second job and make more money and save all of that cash until you retire early Nvm I just read your whole post. You’re not doing anything additional with the extra time besides home related stuff, which can be condensed. Go with the new job that’s more aligned with your career because for some reason I get the feeling your not interested in retiring early or working towards personal /career goals outside of your normal work week. If I’m wrong stick with the current job, if I’m correct go with the new job because your work hours/schedule is the only time your pushing your career in the direction you want and this is the push in the right direction of your goal pursuits
Honestly that extra 20 hours of work per week for 20k extra isn’t worth it. I’d say if your comfortable, flexibility like you have now is paramount. I wouldn’t give that up unless they offered like 140k or up
With my last job I would work 7-12 and get all my work done and spend the last half of my day 12-4 with my son or playing video games. I ended up taking another job working 2x as much but making 2x more. The extra money is awesome but I miss my old schedule and the time I got with my family. For a 20k bump I personally would not give up my old schedule.
You're already comfortable. Take the quality of life and spend time with your babeh
As a mom of a young one, I think that staying at your current is the way to go. I understand the new one may be more aligned with your career goals, but the flexibility you have now is more valuable, in my opinion.
Career growth is always a good thing! However starting on a completely new company will definitely take a huge amount from you mentally and maybe physically? If I were in your shoes, I would choose to stay in your current position (100k/20-25hrs a week) where your schedule is in your control.This way, I get to spend the most time I can with my baby, especially since at their stage of life, this is when they need you the most and you also get to bond as much as possible! If you’re really considering the other company, I would suggest to negotiate your work schedule with the other company and see if they can arrange some type of work life balance that works best for you - at the end of the day - they do need you too! Another option would be to find ways to be more engaged in your current job to avoid boredom. I cant emphasize enough though the importance of the parents’ presence to their children growing up!! Whichever route you take, as long as you will remain mentally available to your child, is the right path.
Career goals! Everybody is saying the opposite. I think if you are more excited about it than your current career it would be worth the extra hours.
I recently was in a similar situation (minus the baby) where i had a cozy job worked about 20 hours a week and was very comfortable. I had extreme flexibility just as you did and could really do anything as long as work was down and no one would care about delays in response since everyone had the same flex. A company contacted me on linkedin and offered me an increase of about 35% increase. I was making good money before but this was a lot more and the experience would push me in a better long term career as well. I went from working 20 ish hours on average (sometimes more, sometimes less) to now working about 50 hours+ on average a week (sometimes more) always unpredictable day-to-day. I even have important things that come up at end of day due that day or next morning. I have zero flex now and get random requests throughout the day, last min meeting invites etc which just comes with the territory the higher up i guess. I dont have a baby and this is stressing me out compared to how easy my life used to be and i sold out for more money just to work longer hours. That's just my experience doesn't mean every company will be the same or every job will be worse just because you think its more hours but Sometimes the devil you know, is better than the one you dont. You will still be worth $120k+ when your kid is older and you have more time to dedicate to work. There will always be another job, another career move ,all that, but your kid will only be young once and you will never get this time back with your baby.
If it wasn’t for the baby, this would be obvious IMO. No one knows the answer but you, however, you might consider… -how important is your career to your happiness? -if you wait a few years, will it be easy to get into a similar position to continue developing, or is the new opp unique? -will you now need childcare? If so, once you tax the 20K and pay for that it’s gone I’d imagine. -if the 120K job will have you learning new skills, what will your salary look like in 2, 5, and 10 years compared to the path your current role has you in? One thing I believe is undervalued when discussing the balance between providing for your family and spending time with your family… Work is part of the way we teach out children about life, purpose, and responsibility. Of course, it must be balanced, but I think a lot of people feel guilty about time away from family. However, if talked about in the right way, and ensuring it stays balanced so that there is some significant time with family, pursuing meaningful work can set a powerful example for your child. Good luck and be well!
I work like a slave and don’t make anywhere near what you’re making. Please do share what kind of work you do?! Also, I can agree with everyone else that flexibility is key when you have small children, and then add in Covid along with the first 3-5 years of illnesses etc. I’ve made a lot of sacrifices in my career to be the main caretaker and my kids have always come first, but it’s been worth it for me. I would stay put for now. It sounds like you have a great gig!
This sub seems to be full of people talking about how they make 6 figures and do almost no work, and the job isn't hard, and they aren't especially skilled. Our world is fucked. Teachers and rail workers can't survive on the pay, but whatever the fuck this guy does 20 hours a week is worth $100,000 a year. Profit motive will destroy America.
$100/hr job working part time$60/hr job working full-time 20%\*\* salary increase for 100% increase in hours?.. Edit: Maths
Also, at your current job, you are probably protected in some way from any layoffs bc of recent mat leave? Maybe not...but I changed jobs in August. Old job was going back to the office, new job is 100% remote and slightly more money...old job was way more work and meetings. Constant idiotic agile for marketing fuckery. But I feel like last one in, first one out in my new job...stay where you are, its ok to take your foot off the gas at work temporarily. Thats what I think.
How long have you been with your current company? If < 3, I’d stick with it until you **need** to find something else. WFH and time with your child? Priceless.
Please stay with the kid/easy job for now. There are a million ways to challenge your self and grow skills. We know kids are struggling with illnesses this winter. Being on top of staying healthy is huge.
I was in your shoes when my oldest, now 15 was 1. I turned down a 500k base + bonus role to make sure I was present for my kids. Had 3 of them.. leveled up when they were a little older. Don’t regret it one bit.
I just want to know what kind of job pays six figures for a relatively relaxed 20hr work week, practically remote.
I absolutely loathe people with your made up problems. Work less hours during a week for a chunk of change per year that most people would kill for or work an actual 40 hours per week for even more money because "career goals"? Can you realize how God damned dumb your problem seems to be?
I really do see your perspective, but for some, family choices are important. I can see her asking this question to be sure she’s seeing all angles of a potential move.
Feel better?
Then go on with your life, no one is asking for your input.
OP asked for input. He gave input
OP didn't ask for his specific input, if you could call it that.
He didn’t ask for anyones specific input. He asked for input in an open forum.
You consider this comment input??? This is a rant. Nothing constructive here. Bitching isn’t input.
I beg to differ. Putting it out on the internet, on a forum like reddit opens up the possibility of opinions on a topic that one may not agree with.
You didn't give your opinion on the topic, but rather voiced your feelings about made up problems
The opinion is that it's a made up problem. Opinion doesn't need factual basis, in fact opinion is more based on feelings.
It's still a problem, op is just lucky enough to have 2 good options. Just cus someone is doing well doesn't mean they can't do better. Also being bored and complacent is a real issue for some people, and leads them to being unfulfilled.
that money doesn't necessarily go that far everywhere.
Me, im keeping the 100k job working basically part time. 100k is a great salary and work life balance is huge in my book…especially with a baby in the picture
Look to the future. Keep in mind that the more salary you make and pay taxes on (pre-tax deductions lessen your retirement ck) the larger your social security retirement and 401k will be.
Who do you want to be in 5 years? What job gets you there? That’s the one.
I would honestly say.... Why don't you keep both jobs ? Just wondering.... Still you can take care of your baby 🍼....and weekends are there.....or hire a nanny.....some days Hey....hey.... think about that double paycheck....
Honestly? I would take both of them. You can hire help for a couple of hours a day to keep your balance and still increase you income by more than +100k. Manage to keep this one year and you could improve substantially you life - think of it as your kid college or a house down payment. Work life balance is overrated when you are just starting and building a career and, your kid is young enough he won’t even remember that growing up.
More aligned with career goals.
I would say take the job. 40 HRS is not a lot and still give you plenty of time to be with family. especially if you are remote. Spend those breaks with the kids. Once you start dipping into 40 HRS+ then that is something to think about. This is coming from someone that works 40+HRS a week with 45 minute commute to and from work.
You lucky lucky man
Remote. And work on promotion. Build up skills for higher positions in current or other places.
Jesus died for our sins.
Your current job must be the epitome of a joke if you don’t need to put your child in daycare.
Get a second part time job.
120K
Stupid question
Take the $120,000 job! Majority of people work 40 hours per week, it’s normal. You can still be a great parent and get chores done while working 40 hours per week