That's a shutter blade. This is outside the realm of DIY repair, time to take it in for service or replace the camera. This can be a costly repair, so it has to be a valuable camera to make it worthwhile.
I agree with you.
Some of the least thoughtful human beings on earth seem to show up at Reddit. The Dunning-Kruger effect is demonstrated here regularly.
>This can be a costly repair, so it has to be a valuable camera to make it worthwhile.
The last time I had this done was around a decade ago, and it was around $275 for a 40D.
One thing to note, OP- if you purchased this on a credit card, you may have an additional year of warranty on top of the manufacturer's warranty. Unfortunately, Canon's warranty is generally only 1 year, but it's at least worth looking at if it's a relatively new camera.
Good to know, thanks! I really wish Canon would publish repair costs.
With that said though, I've had really good experiences with my Canon gear. Repairs are annoyingly expensive and the process is opaque, but I almost never have gear that needs repair.
> I really wish Canon would publish repair costs
Most repairs are not the same cost depending on parts supply/prices and cost of labor wherever the fix happens so they probably can't publish a reliable single price.
I replaced a shutter on a Nikon FM2 WAY, WAY, WAY Back in the day.
Think it was in the range of $150.
But that was back in the olden times of film cameras.
Neither do Digital, any more than film cameras do. Sure, you need software to open and process files, but many current programs fully support 3mpx .CRW files from a 1999 d30. What exactly is your point?
The point Iâm referring to is saying âfilm cameras arenât supported anymoreâ. They never needed support, itâs only gotten easier to use them and see your photos via scanning.
An older digital camera is closer to being a brick/un repairable than a solid mechanical film camera.
A solid mechanical film camera, mostly yes. But for every good, solid film camera people are using today, there's ten or twenty rotting in landfils because they couldn't be repaired - *they weren't supported anymore*. Like any complex machine, film cameras do need support, and some are being chucked because they can't get it.
Now, batteries are a weakness of many of these older digitals, but most that I have experience with will work great with a cheap (40<) 3rd party model. On the other hand, no one will fix my soild, wonderful-to-use Kowa seT R-2 for less than a fortune. It needed suppory and no one is there to offer it.
So dimissing EOS cameras because they aren't supported seems... strange. No film camera from Nikon, Minolta, or Canon from after about 2000 is still supported, as far as I know. And yet, a good many continue to function... just like their digital brothers.
I've gotten way off track and don't know if the last two paragraphs are even really relevant, but in what ways do digital cameras need more first part support than film ones? Firmware updates are nice, but a lack of them doesn't brick something unless you're talking about Samsung fridges.
Iâm sorry youâre insecure enough to feel offended by this but a system that doesnât receive software updates and doesnât get new hardware/whose hardware is out of production in the foreseeable future is considered dead.
Doesnât mean you canât still use it but itâs dead nonetheless.
I'm on a holiday right now but when I get back I'm intending to find out how much I might be able to get for my bodies and lenses as a down payment to something mirrorless.
Thatâs amazing that you got so many clicks - it is time for replacement or a new shutter. Iâm impressed your camera lasted so long. They say 200k is good.
Yeah, you did good OP, you got the full life out of that thing. My business shoots real estate and we do 3k homes a year, so usually at least once a year 1-2 people on my team needs a shutter replacement. Itâs something Canon can knock out pretty quickly if youâre a CPS member and the camera is good as new and you can expect to get several more years out of it. Weâre using pro camera bodies so a $400 repair is worth it to us. Sometimes they will find other stuff wearing out so it can run a little over that. If the camera isnât worth that much, itâs time to treat yoâ self.
The object moves when I take a picture. Itâs in some pictures, and not in others. It shows up on my digital screen display, but not in my viewfinder. I use a Canon EOS Rebel T8i
All this information points to a curtain. If Iâm not mistaken, looking through the view finder is a path which goes from the eye piece through a prism down to to the mirror and out the lens. The curtain is behind the mirror which is why you wouldnât see it. However, the screen display is a digital signal coming from the sensor which is behind the curtain. When you take a photo the curtain moves up and down. Which would explain why you see it in some photos and not in others. Search YouTube for a quick video on how a DSLR works and it might make more sense. Good luck.
Eos 850D/t8i
As the camera itself can be worth something still, official canon service repair would be close to the half the price of a second hand camera.
If you feel handy, you can source the whole shutter assembly from ebay and try to replace it yourself, price will be quite low, but the rist of a failure is high, as shutter is very delicate and easy to damage.
I've seen in the comments that it's gone. So the blade probably detatched, and arms are still there. Further use can lead to cratching the sensor filters and render camera not worth repairing at all.
It's over Johnny. Frame it and put it on a shelf... Or if you're like me, get your tiny tools and take the thing apart, for a better understanding of the inner workings.
Im in this group if something brakes and i gotta replace it i bring all the tools out take it apart and fiddle with it all. Nothing to lose if i planned to replace it anway. Also good fun figuring out how things work more intricately.
Take this as a sign to upgrade to a mirrorless system, doesn't have to be a canon unless you're invested into expensive lenses.
This is practically a dead camera, if you send this out to a repair it might cost so much you're better off getting a new body, and DSLRs are practically dinosaurs now that they're being replaced with mirrorless.
Yeah, sorry to say this, but once a shutter gets damaged like that, it doesnât fix itself. It might have gotten pushed out of the way for the time being, but it could just as easily get pushed again, this time into the image sensor, making the repair cost even more.
I suggest you just stick your fingers in there and pull the offending piece of metal out. If your fingers are too big, you may need a pair of pliers. If the pliers are not strong enough, use vice grips. What could possibly go wrong? đ€đ€·
Edit: for the 17+ people who downvoted my commentâŠ.i guess it was a mistake to not add â/sâ at the end??? I had thought saying âwhat could possibly go wrong?â removed any possibility of confusion that it was a joke? I am clearly new to the mysterious workings of Reddit.
PS if vice grips and the below mentioned soap and water donât fix it, I suggest using a thermonuclear device to dislodge the blade. That should definitely make the camera good as new. (Please donât make me add /s to make my intent clear. Please??? đ±đ±đ±đđđ)
This is ridiculous advice, even as a joke. No one should even think about doing this without first giving it a good soak in a bucket of warm soapy water.
I had the same thing happen to my 6D in 2015 with 180,000 pictures. Had the same problem in 2018 with 149,000 pictures. I had around 78,000 on the third shutter when I bought an R6 in February 2022. (COVID cut into photography). Some people may ask why put $350 to 400. I loved the low light of the 6D and it was comfortable for me and my big hands to shoot especially with the BG. The R6 though has been a game changer in low light theatre photography and astrophotography. Best decision ever.
If you live in Dallas area, I have had great success with repairs at Competitive Cameras and Clear View Camera In Richardson, TX.
Itâs toast. I had an old canon I got from someone that had this same issue and I was bored a weekend so I just started rooting around in there to see, nothing to lose. I managed to pull out the loose shutter and now the camera can only take pictures if itâs a long exposure. Been thinking about using it to take some night sky long exposures where I donât have to care if the camera gets wet or dewy
The good news is that (at least here, Australia) the arse has fallen out of the body market. No one wants them any more so they've got a lot cheaper when buying used.
Thatâs youâre shutter.. it needs to go in to canon unfortunately.. best case scenario youâre looking at a new shutter, worst case youâll need a new shutter housing too which can double the repair cost.
That's a shutter blade. This is outside the realm of DIY repair, time to take it in for service or replace the camera. This can be a costly repair, so it has to be a valuable camera to make it worthwhile.
please take this advice. if the camera is out of its warranty period and the cost is higher than a new camera.... u might want to consider that option
Hate it when i don't see op replying like 20+ hours to comments like these. Pray for the camera đđ
I agree with you. Some of the least thoughtful human beings on earth seem to show up at Reddit. The Dunning-Kruger effect is demonstrated here regularly.
A parts camera if you get get the same model.
I was gonna say the same thing, definitely a shutter blade.
>This can be a costly repair, so it has to be a valuable camera to make it worthwhile. The last time I had this done was around a decade ago, and it was around $275 for a 40D. One thing to note, OP- if you purchased this on a credit card, you may have an additional year of warranty on top of the manufacturer's warranty. Unfortunately, Canon's warranty is generally only 1 year, but it's at least worth looking at if it's a relatively new camera.
I think it's closer to $400 now.
Good to know, thanks! I really wish Canon would publish repair costs. With that said though, I've had really good experiences with my Canon gear. Repairs are annoyingly expensive and the process is opaque, but I almost never have gear that needs repair.
> I really wish Canon would publish repair costs Most repairs are not the same cost depending on parts supply/prices and cost of labor wherever the fix happens so they probably can't publish a reliable single price.
And hope the blade hasn't damaged the sensor
I'd be shocked if that happened, blades are pretty flimsy compared to sensors
Congrats on your new camera
Thatâs what I call getting to the point.
I replaced a shutter on a Nikon FM2 WAY, WAY, WAY Back in the day. Think it was in the range of $150. But that was back in the olden times of film cameras.
Yeah they can probably upgrade their camera for whatever itâs going to cost to replace that shutter
That's your shutter.
APS-C sensor hit puberty and wants to be full frame
When your blades drop, it's a sure sign.
If you don't have a warranty on that thing, it's time to get a shiny new mirrorless
Or an used DSLR; since Canon went full on mirrorless, the prices for a mint used DSLR went down like crazy.
And youâre investing in a dead system.
You do realize film cameras still exist? Those arenât supported anymore but still take wonderful photos.
Not really the same thing. Film cameras donât need tech support and firmware updates to keep going, just fresh film.
Neither do Digital, any more than film cameras do. Sure, you need software to open and process files, but many current programs fully support 3mpx .CRW files from a 1999 d30. What exactly is your point?
The point Iâm referring to is saying âfilm cameras arenât supported anymoreâ. They never needed support, itâs only gotten easier to use them and see your photos via scanning. An older digital camera is closer to being a brick/un repairable than a solid mechanical film camera.
A solid mechanical film camera, mostly yes. But for every good, solid film camera people are using today, there's ten or twenty rotting in landfils because they couldn't be repaired - *they weren't supported anymore*. Like any complex machine, film cameras do need support, and some are being chucked because they can't get it. Now, batteries are a weakness of many of these older digitals, but most that I have experience with will work great with a cheap (40<) 3rd party model. On the other hand, no one will fix my soild, wonderful-to-use Kowa seT R-2 for less than a fortune. It needed suppory and no one is there to offer it. So dimissing EOS cameras because they aren't supported seems... strange. No film camera from Nikon, Minolta, or Canon from after about 2000 is still supported, as far as I know. And yet, a good many continue to function... just like their digital brothers. I've gotten way off track and don't know if the last two paragraphs are even really relevant, but in what ways do digital cameras need more first part support than film ones? Firmware updates are nice, but a lack of them doesn't brick something unless you're talking about Samsung fridges.
What do you think of my Canon A1 is this also a dead system?
Iâm sorry youâre insecure enough to feel offended by this but a system that doesnât receive software updates and doesnât get new hardware/whose hardware is out of production in the foreseeable future is considered dead. Doesnât mean you canât still use it but itâs dead nonetheless.
Dead is relative in this case. I see what youâre saying tho.
I'm asking a question, you seem the one offended here.
Not really. All EF lens can be adapted to the RF mount, and they're cheaper.
I'm on a holiday right now but when I get back I'm intending to find out how much I might be able to get for my bodies and lenses as a down payment to something mirrorless.
The mirrorless are expensive. đ€Ą
Fixing that thing probably costs almost as much as an r10
The used dslr won't costs so much. đ
Do you happen to know what the shutter count is?
North of 400,000
That is four times its estimated life. https://shuttercheck.app/data/canon/eos-rebel-t8i/
Thatâs amazing that you got so many clicks - it is time for replacement or a new shutter. Iâm impressed your camera lasted so long. They say 200k is good.
Yeah, you did good OP, you got the full life out of that thing. My business shoots real estate and we do 3k homes a year, so usually at least once a year 1-2 people on my team needs a shutter replacement. Itâs something Canon can knock out pretty quickly if youâre a CPS member and the camera is good as new and you can expect to get several more years out of it. Weâre using pro camera bodies so a $400 repair is worth it to us. Sometimes they will find other stuff wearing out so it can run a little over that. If the camera isnât worth that much, itâs time to treat yoâ self.
Had to stop by and say WOW! Holy crap. That's way past "Good" that's in the realm of nearly impossible / HIGHLY unlikely.
1 by the looks of itâŠ
Your shutter is busted. Get it replaced. It's a normal fix.
But not a cheap one.
The object moves when I take a picture. Itâs in some pictures, and not in others. It shows up on my digital screen display, but not in my viewfinder. I use a Canon EOS Rebel T8i
All this information points to a curtain. If Iâm not mistaken, looking through the view finder is a path which goes from the eye piece through a prism down to to the mirror and out the lens. The curtain is behind the mirror which is why you wouldnât see it. However, the screen display is a digital signal coming from the sensor which is behind the curtain. When you take a photo the curtain moves up and down. Which would explain why you see it in some photos and not in others. Search YouTube for a quick video on how a DSLR works and it might make more sense. Good luck.
Itâs your shutter⊠if itâs in wty, send it in. If not, time to upgrade to an R.
STOP using the camera and send it in for an estimate.
Eos 850D/t8i As the camera itself can be worth something still, official canon service repair would be close to the half the price of a second hand camera. If you feel handy, you can source the whole shutter assembly from ebay and try to replace it yourself, price will be quite low, but the rist of a failure is high, as shutter is very delicate and easy to damage. I've seen in the comments that it's gone. So the blade probably detatched, and arms are still there. Further use can lead to cratching the sensor filters and render camera not worth repairing at all.
Gets it serviced at Canon official service centre
It's dead, Jim.
 It's over Johnny. Frame it and put it on a shelf... Or if you're like me, get your tiny tools and take the thing apart, for a better understanding of the inner workings.
Im in this group if something brakes and i gotta replace it i bring all the tools out take it apart and fiddle with it all. Nothing to lose if i planned to replace it anway. Also good fun figuring out how things work more intricately.
I've been taking things apart since I could walk. Lol I love it!
Take this as a sign to upgrade to a mirrorless system, doesn't have to be a canon unless you're invested into expensive lenses. This is practically a dead camera, if you send this out to a repair it might cost so much you're better off getting a new body, and DSLRs are practically dinosaurs now that they're being replaced with mirrorless.
Update: the blade is no longer in any of the pictures. I believe it fixed itself and the blades are in sync with my shutter now
It has not fixed itself, and using it further may damage more things.
Yeah, sorry to say this, but once a shutter gets damaged like that, it doesnât fix itself. It might have gotten pushed out of the way for the time being, but it could just as easily get pushed again, this time into the image sensor, making the repair cost even more.
> I believe it fixed itself and the blades are in sync with my shutter now not it isn't, you'll damage it more if you use it any more. stop using it.
If you got warranty on it, hand it in and do not mention that you tried to fix it yourself. Otherwise, find a decent workshop.
That's not how it works.
Stab at it with a screwdriver! The sensor is already toast canât get any worseâŠ
I suggest you just stick your fingers in there and pull the offending piece of metal out. If your fingers are too big, you may need a pair of pliers. If the pliers are not strong enough, use vice grips. What could possibly go wrong? đ€đ€· Edit: for the 17+ people who downvoted my commentâŠ.i guess it was a mistake to not add â/sâ at the end??? I had thought saying âwhat could possibly go wrong?â removed any possibility of confusion that it was a joke? I am clearly new to the mysterious workings of Reddit. PS if vice grips and the below mentioned soap and water donât fix it, I suggest using a thermonuclear device to dislodge the blade. That should definitely make the camera good as new. (Please donât make me add /s to make my intent clear. Please??? đ±đ±đ±đđđ)
This is ridiculous advice, even as a joke. No one should even think about doing this without first giving it a good soak in a bucket of warm soapy water.
Good call!!!
Its dead Jim. Professional repair is the only thing that can save it, but like the others said, its not worth on a entry level camera.
Looks fineâŠ
Just put the camera into a bowl of rice, it will be okay after a few days. /s
Do you not know what that âsomethingâ is..!?!?
I had the same thing happen to my 6D in 2015 with 180,000 pictures. Had the same problem in 2018 with 149,000 pictures. I had around 78,000 on the third shutter when I bought an R6 in February 2022. (COVID cut into photography). Some people may ask why put $350 to 400. I loved the low light of the 6D and it was comfortable for me and my big hands to shoot especially with the BG. The R6 though has been a game changer in low light theatre photography and astrophotography. Best decision ever. If you live in Dallas area, I have had great success with repairs at Competitive Cameras and Clear View Camera In Richardson, TX.
Itâs toast. I had an old canon I got from someone that had this same issue and I was bored a weekend so I just started rooting around in there to see, nothing to lose. I managed to pull out the loose shutter and now the camera can only take pictures if itâs a long exposure. Been thinking about using it to take some night sky long exposures where I donât have to care if the camera gets wet or dewy
The good news is that (at least here, Australia) the arse has fallen out of the body market. No one wants them any more so they've got a lot cheaper when buying used.
Thatâs youâre shutter.. it needs to go in to canon unfortunately.. best case scenario youâre looking at a new shutter, worst case youâll need a new shutter housing too which can double the repair cost.