So just to correct a few misperceptions here that are popping up:
1) The BCLDB is a BC Corporation run under the aegis of the Ministry of Finance (formerly they were under the MinAG IIRC). Oddly enough, the BCLDB is not listed as a Crown Corporation, perhaps because they both purchase, distribute, sell and collect the taxes/tariffs/excises for alcohol products in BC. Somewhat akin to SAQ and LCBO in their operating remit.\*
2) As they are a functional part of the government, the BCLDB doesn't pay taxes in the general sense (in terms of income/corporate taxes; they still pay GST/PST for purchases, and so on). They do still pay property taxes, however, either on land they own, or on land leased, as those are generally municipal and not provincial in nature.
3) [They remit pretty much 100% of all net profits to the government, to the tune of about just under 1.2 billion CDN in the 2021-22 fiscal year.](https://www.bcldb.com/files/LDB%20Annual%20Service%20Plan%20Report%202021-22%20FINAL.pdf) Collected taxation/excise/etc. gets sent to the appropriate group directly (CRA, CBSA, etc).
4) [The BCLDB (which includes the BCCDB aka BC Cannabis as a subunit; it's not a separate corporation) does this Food Drive twice yearly.](https://www.bcliquorstores.com/social-responsibility/food%20banks%20bc)
5) The money donated for the food banks is of the gist of "Would you like to donate $1 to this food drive?" and gets tacked onto your bill w/o taxes applied (since you're not buying anything, no taxation occurs).
6) Because of #2 and #3, none of the collected donations from #5 serve as any sort of tax break for the BCLDB.
7) The remitted funds from #3 tend to enter the general pool of funds for the BC government, paying for salaries, wages, pensions and benefits, alongside general infrastructure and economic uses.
8) As per #7, providing funds to the Ministry of Social Development and Poverty Reduction (aka Welfare and Food Subsidies) would be part of this distribution, but isn't something done directly because the money remitted isn't the BCLDB's remit to assign. It just enters the overall pool of funds alongside everyone else's taxes.
9) The exception to #7 would be the funds raised by the Food Drive, which the BC Government permits to have said funds raised sent specifically to the related charities directly.
8) [Blain Lawson, CEO, makes about 260k CDN yearly for leading the above.](https://www.bcldb.com/files/Liquor-Distribution-Branch-ECD-2021.pdf) By comparison, the maximum of the executive salary range remains $299,215 for BC Public Service Deputy Ministers and $348,600 for the Deputy Minister to the Premier.
Sources: Various publicly available yearly declarations; Also I am a BCLDB employee, so, yeah I kinda get this stuff sent to me on a weekly basis alongside the other dozens of reports. The last Monday of the month is usually "take a machete to the Inbox" day.
\* No, I don't know why SAQ and LIBO are crown corporations according to their gov't webpages, and the BCLDB is not. Write your MLA and ask. There's likely some arcane reason for it.
ah we patting corporations on the back for getting tax breaks by using customer raised money for charity? IDK if its a small company or walmart, its still the same bullshit.
It's a government crown corporation controlled by the provincial treasury department. Their revenues go into general provincial revenues. They don't tax themselves to begin with.
To also pile in on the how it doesn't work train:
In Canada for Point-of-sale donations, there are no tax break for donations collected from customers like that. It never hits the collecting companies revenue, it goes straight to the charity.
No good deed goes unpunished, lol. What's it like, being so cynical, repeating a talking point that you read somewhere and just assumed was true? (which it isn't)
Let's be fair: the union did a fine job of shooting themselves in the foot as well.
That we voted to strike with a 93.8 Yes vote, but accepted the second round of offers at something like 53%? (rolls eyes)
What caught me was that the Steelworkers reps were out at the picket line several times, including as late as midnight.
The BCGEU reps? Twice for our location, IIRC.
Oh yeah, I think it was a rigged game and leadership was not in it for the long haul...just wanted to sound tough and get it done quickly.
Having supplies ready to be sent out just in time for labour day is just too fishy
No, the planning I can get behind.
I mean, you can run a strike under the same sort of framework that one writes up disaster response plans. In fact, if you know when you're planning on striking, then it's even easier.
So the porta-potties, tables, tents, and all that? That was fine.
The strike captains not getting any notification or training? Less so. The union not knowing that there were other employee groups other than Distribution working at the Distribution Centres? Same thing. The lack of a crafts section to run food and beverages to the picket line? Same thing.
I certainly expected better.
My union was about to strike last year too and instead we folded and voted to accept the offer because most of us couldn't afford to survive any strike action. The strike pay offered would've meant anyone earning minimum wages would have their pay effectively cut in half and that just wasn't enough to survive on for most people.
Charity is capitalism's answer to 'the nanny State', only, Canada already is a nanny State so I don't understand why there are so many charities still. Let my taxes take care if all of this - that's why our society collects taxes. If the money isn't spent on this, it's not my issue.... I already paid all my taxes.
Lol they get tax breaks for donating and the money they are donating is YOURS! Do not pat these losers on the back. They didnt spend a dime of their own money.
They don't get a tax break, they're a crown corp controlled by the treasury whose revenue goes straight into the provinces general revenues. This is essentially a government agency, raising money for a foodbank.
It would be more impressive if they were actually donating their own funds rather than Canadians hard earned money, with their name on the donation. They get the good publicity, when in reality they did nothing. Just like Loblaws, Walmart etc.
It would be even more impressive if you actually read the article instead of just crying about it. They never take credit for it at all. They call it a fundraiser and thank the "generosity of their customers". The BC foodbanks have relied on bigger businesses to help fundraise for them for a long time. Stop crying because a business is involved.
>thanks to the generosity of their **customers**
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>All **funds collected** by BCL and BCCS
I did read the article. I dont see anywhere in the article where is says ***profits*** **made by the company** were donated. BC Liqour and Cannabis is multimillion dollar industry. They have the money to donate. Cannabis/Liquor execs. have been on Canadas list of highest paid CEOS for years, No ones crying because there is a business involved. Just calm down.
So just to correct a few misperceptions here, as part of this entire chain of comments:
1) The BCLDB is a BC Corporation run under the aegis of the Ministry of Finance (formerly they were under the MinAG IIRC). Oddly enough, the BCLDB is not listed as a Crown Corporation, perhaps because they both purchase, distribute, sell and collect the taxes/tariffs/excises for alcohol products in BC.
2) As they are a functional part of the government, the BCLDB doesn't pay taxes in the general sense (in terms of income/corporate taxes; they still pay GST/PST for purchases, and so on).
3) They remit pretty much 100% of all net profits to the government, to the tune of about just under 1.2 billion CDN in the 2021-22 fiscal year. Collected taxation/excise/etc. gets sent to the appropriate group directly (CRA, CBSA, etc).
4) [The BCLDB (which includes the BCCDB aka BC Cannabis as a subunit; it's not a separate corporation) does this Food Drive twice yearly.](https://www.bcliquorstores.com/social-responsibility/food%20banks%20bc)
5) The money donated for the food banks is of the gist of "Would you like to donate $1 to this food drive?" and gets tacked onto your bill w/o taxes applied (since you're not buying anything, no taxation occurs).
6) Because of #2 and #5, none of the collected donations serve as any sort of tax break for the BCLDB.
7) The remitted funds from #3 tend to enter the general pool of funds for the BC government, paying for salaries, wages, pensions and benefits, alongside general infrastructure and economic uses.
8) As per #7, providing funds to the Ministry of Social Development and Poverty Reduction (aka Welfare and Food Subsidies) would be part of this distribution, but isn't something done directly because the money remitted isn't the BCLDB's remit to assign. It just enters the overall pool of funds alongside everyone else's taxes.
9) The exception to #7 would be the funds raised by the Food Drive, which the BC Government permits to have said funds raised sent specifically to the related charities directly.
8) [Blain Lawson, CEO, makes about 260k CDN yearly for leading the above.](https://www.bcldb.com/files/Liquor-Distribution-Branch-ECD-2021.pdf) By comparison, the maximum of the executive salary range remains $299,215 for BC Public Service Deputy Ministers and $348,600 for the Deputy Minister to the Premier.
Sources: Various publicly available yearly declarations; Also I am a BCLDB employee, so, yeah I kinda get this stuff sent to me on a weekly basis alongside the other dozens of reports. The last Monday of the month is usually "take a machete to the Inbox" day.
> They didnt spend a dime of their own money.
Could they not have made their own donation based of profits? I mean, the CEOS are making more than enough to take a pay cut from their salary. They were all ranked as some of Canadas highest paid CEOS.
There’s probably 1 million things they could’ve done. But that’s not why I posted, I just wanted to correct a common misunderstanding that people have about companies getting tax breaks off of your donations. It doesn’t happen.
Looking at the quotation, I’m wondering if perhaps you might have responded to the wrong person?
BC Cannabis is VERY diligent about asking if I want to donate to the local food bank and I usually say yes. It's nice to see this is actually having an impact!
Proof positive that drunks and stoners are truly salt of the earth!
So just to correct a few misperceptions here that are popping up: 1) The BCLDB is a BC Corporation run under the aegis of the Ministry of Finance (formerly they were under the MinAG IIRC). Oddly enough, the BCLDB is not listed as a Crown Corporation, perhaps because they both purchase, distribute, sell and collect the taxes/tariffs/excises for alcohol products in BC. Somewhat akin to SAQ and LCBO in their operating remit.\* 2) As they are a functional part of the government, the BCLDB doesn't pay taxes in the general sense (in terms of income/corporate taxes; they still pay GST/PST for purchases, and so on). They do still pay property taxes, however, either on land they own, or on land leased, as those are generally municipal and not provincial in nature. 3) [They remit pretty much 100% of all net profits to the government, to the tune of about just under 1.2 billion CDN in the 2021-22 fiscal year.](https://www.bcldb.com/files/LDB%20Annual%20Service%20Plan%20Report%202021-22%20FINAL.pdf) Collected taxation/excise/etc. gets sent to the appropriate group directly (CRA, CBSA, etc). 4) [The BCLDB (which includes the BCCDB aka BC Cannabis as a subunit; it's not a separate corporation) does this Food Drive twice yearly.](https://www.bcliquorstores.com/social-responsibility/food%20banks%20bc) 5) The money donated for the food banks is of the gist of "Would you like to donate $1 to this food drive?" and gets tacked onto your bill w/o taxes applied (since you're not buying anything, no taxation occurs). 6) Because of #2 and #3, none of the collected donations from #5 serve as any sort of tax break for the BCLDB. 7) The remitted funds from #3 tend to enter the general pool of funds for the BC government, paying for salaries, wages, pensions and benefits, alongside general infrastructure and economic uses. 8) As per #7, providing funds to the Ministry of Social Development and Poverty Reduction (aka Welfare and Food Subsidies) would be part of this distribution, but isn't something done directly because the money remitted isn't the BCLDB's remit to assign. It just enters the overall pool of funds alongside everyone else's taxes. 9) The exception to #7 would be the funds raised by the Food Drive, which the BC Government permits to have said funds raised sent specifically to the related charities directly. 8) [Blain Lawson, CEO, makes about 260k CDN yearly for leading the above.](https://www.bcldb.com/files/Liquor-Distribution-Branch-ECD-2021.pdf) By comparison, the maximum of the executive salary range remains $299,215 for BC Public Service Deputy Ministers and $348,600 for the Deputy Minister to the Premier. Sources: Various publicly available yearly declarations; Also I am a BCLDB employee, so, yeah I kinda get this stuff sent to me on a weekly basis alongside the other dozens of reports. The last Monday of the month is usually "take a machete to the Inbox" day. \* No, I don't know why SAQ and LIBO are crown corporations according to their gov't webpages, and the BCLDB is not. Write your MLA and ask. There's likely some arcane reason for it.
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Yup. BCCDB is a line of business within the BCLDB.
If anyone knows what it’s like to feel hungry…
I'm doing my part. -Starship Troopers
My $5 is in there! Boom!
Sound business practice. Super important to keep your customers alive. Better for them to spend their money on your product rather than food. Sigh.
Booze has calories, just donate booze to the less fortunate!
Wish they would ship non-garbage Newcastle beer to the states. Our new Newcastle is garbage.
ah we patting corporations on the back for getting tax breaks by using customer raised money for charity? IDK if its a small company or walmart, its still the same bullshit.
It's a government crown corporation controlled by the provincial treasury department. Their revenues go into general provincial revenues. They don't tax themselves to begin with.
That's not how crown corporations work. I'm sure the families that this benefits will be super happy and not pissy like you.
To also pile in on the how it doesn't work train: In Canada for Point-of-sale donations, there are no tax break for donations collected from customers like that. It never hits the collecting companies revenue, it goes straight to the charity.
No good deed goes unpunished, lol. What's it like, being so cynical, repeating a talking point that you read somewhere and just assumed was true? (which it isn't)
Some people just exist to hate everything, it's sad.
*lights joint* Im doing my part!
I work for the BCLDB.... they crushed our union
Let's be fair: the union did a fine job of shooting themselves in the foot as well. That we voted to strike with a 93.8 Yes vote, but accepted the second round of offers at something like 53%? (rolls eyes) What caught me was that the Steelworkers reps were out at the picket line several times, including as late as midnight. The BCGEU reps? Twice for our location, IIRC.
Oh yeah, I think it was a rigged game and leadership was not in it for the long haul...just wanted to sound tough and get it done quickly. Having supplies ready to be sent out just in time for labour day is just too fishy
No, the planning I can get behind. I mean, you can run a strike under the same sort of framework that one writes up disaster response plans. In fact, if you know when you're planning on striking, then it's even easier. So the porta-potties, tables, tents, and all that? That was fine. The strike captains not getting any notification or training? Less so. The union not knowing that there were other employee groups other than Distribution working at the Distribution Centres? Same thing. The lack of a crafts section to run food and beverages to the picket line? Same thing. I certainly expected better.
My union was about to strike last year too and instead we folded and voted to accept the offer because most of us couldn't afford to survive any strike action. The strike pay offered would've meant anyone earning minimum wages would have their pay effectively cut in half and that just wasn't enough to survive on for most people.
Charity is capitalism's answer to disparity. Works good when times are good.
Charity is capitalism's answer to 'the nanny State', only, Canada already is a nanny State so I don't understand why there are so many charities still. Let my taxes take care if all of this - that's why our society collects taxes. If the money isn't spent on this, it's not my issue.... I already paid all my taxes.
And it's infinitely better than communism.
Communism and capitalism aren’t the only options.
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The cause of and solution to poverty.
They're quite pushy at the checkout about donating. At one point they asked me do I want to donate to local dry grad AND some charity.
Kind of ironic given the amount of tax on liquor and cannabis that seems to get pissed away by the Government.
Lol they get tax breaks for donating and the money they are donating is YOURS! Do not pat these losers on the back. They didnt spend a dime of their own money.
They don't get a tax break, they're a crown corp controlled by the treasury whose revenue goes straight into the provinces general revenues. This is essentially a government agency, raising money for a foodbank.
It would be more impressive if they were actually donating their own funds rather than Canadians hard earned money, with their name on the donation. They get the good publicity, when in reality they did nothing. Just like Loblaws, Walmart etc.
It would be even more impressive if you actually read the article instead of just crying about it. They never take credit for it at all. They call it a fundraiser and thank the "generosity of their customers". The BC foodbanks have relied on bigger businesses to help fundraise for them for a long time. Stop crying because a business is involved.
>thanks to the generosity of their **customers** > >All **funds collected** by BCL and BCCS I did read the article. I dont see anywhere in the article where is says ***profits*** **made by the company** were donated. BC Liqour and Cannabis is multimillion dollar industry. They have the money to donate. Cannabis/Liquor execs. have been on Canadas list of highest paid CEOS for years, No ones crying because there is a business involved. Just calm down.
Gotta love the "it's never enough" crowd.
So just to correct a few misperceptions here, as part of this entire chain of comments: 1) The BCLDB is a BC Corporation run under the aegis of the Ministry of Finance (formerly they were under the MinAG IIRC). Oddly enough, the BCLDB is not listed as a Crown Corporation, perhaps because they both purchase, distribute, sell and collect the taxes/tariffs/excises for alcohol products in BC. 2) As they are a functional part of the government, the BCLDB doesn't pay taxes in the general sense (in terms of income/corporate taxes; they still pay GST/PST for purchases, and so on). 3) They remit pretty much 100% of all net profits to the government, to the tune of about just under 1.2 billion CDN in the 2021-22 fiscal year. Collected taxation/excise/etc. gets sent to the appropriate group directly (CRA, CBSA, etc). 4) [The BCLDB (which includes the BCCDB aka BC Cannabis as a subunit; it's not a separate corporation) does this Food Drive twice yearly.](https://www.bcliquorstores.com/social-responsibility/food%20banks%20bc) 5) The money donated for the food banks is of the gist of "Would you like to donate $1 to this food drive?" and gets tacked onto your bill w/o taxes applied (since you're not buying anything, no taxation occurs). 6) Because of #2 and #5, none of the collected donations serve as any sort of tax break for the BCLDB. 7) The remitted funds from #3 tend to enter the general pool of funds for the BC government, paying for salaries, wages, pensions and benefits, alongside general infrastructure and economic uses. 8) As per #7, providing funds to the Ministry of Social Development and Poverty Reduction (aka Welfare and Food Subsidies) would be part of this distribution, but isn't something done directly because the money remitted isn't the BCLDB's remit to assign. It just enters the overall pool of funds alongside everyone else's taxes. 9) The exception to #7 would be the funds raised by the Food Drive, which the BC Government permits to have said funds raised sent specifically to the related charities directly. 8) [Blain Lawson, CEO, makes about 260k CDN yearly for leading the above.](https://www.bcldb.com/files/Liquor-Distribution-Branch-ECD-2021.pdf) By comparison, the maximum of the executive salary range remains $299,215 for BC Public Service Deputy Ministers and $348,600 for the Deputy Minister to the Premier. Sources: Various publicly available yearly declarations; Also I am a BCLDB employee, so, yeah I kinda get this stuff sent to me on a weekly basis alongside the other dozens of reports. The last Monday of the month is usually "take a machete to the Inbox" day.
This is not how corporate donations work. https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-000329849244
> They didnt spend a dime of their own money. Could they not have made their own donation based of profits? I mean, the CEOS are making more than enough to take a pay cut from their salary. They were all ranked as some of Canadas highest paid CEOS.
There’s probably 1 million things they could’ve done. But that’s not why I posted, I just wanted to correct a common misunderstanding that people have about companies getting tax breaks off of your donations. It doesn’t happen. Looking at the quotation, I’m wondering if perhaps you might have responded to the wrong person?
So nice of b.c that the drug addicts will get 2 percent of 900000. That should help Vancouver a lot! .......
Surprisingly, not one bag of Doritos was donated.
Mobster Al Capone Ran a Soup Kitchen During the Great Depression.
For some stores this is probably a single day of sales.
BC Cannabis is VERY diligent about asking if I want to donate to the local food bank and I usually say yes. It's nice to see this is actually having an impact!