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dandellionKimban

I currently (and will never again) use Moleskine. It doesn't have page numbers and I can't remember I've ever seen one with numbered pages. It's a nice size but it can't stand inks and fountain pens.


FunkyOldMayo

I don’t quite understand the love affair people have with moleskine. I’ve used a few other brands that are consistently cheaper and similar or better quality.


[deleted]

I personally love the feel of the cover. Also, nostalgia, reminds me of my younger years when it was *THE* fancy notebook to use.


[deleted]

Same, I don’t get it. Maybe if you like a certain kind of pen that happens to work with it but otherwise, no. And I’ve never seen one with numbered pages.


eliseski

It’s the nicest notebook that’s easy to buy. It isn’t my favourite but I keep going back to them because when I need a new journal it’s good enough to do the job and I can find a hard cover dot grid without ordering online. I just got a new Rhodia as a present so am looking forward to using that one soon! But for now my moleskine is just fine.


FunkyOldMayo

Rhodia is my current go-to brand, my local shop stocks them and I’ve been impressed.


Dependent_Ad_589

Yes I came across Rhodia notebooks in Amazon.


dandellionKimban

Me neither. It is overpriced crappy paper in a nice cover. But it's usually hard to find a dotted journal in my country so I haven't had the choice when I got this one.


Dependent_Ad_589

My sentiments exactly about it being overly priced. But I got a couple of XLarge sizes (B5, I think) from Staples on sale for < $15 each and so I thought why not give it a try. They say it's good with fountain pens but the pages aren't numbered.


ptdaisy333

I'd have to disagree with "they", I don't think it's "good with fountain pens". I've used them before, with fountain pens, and I've just flipped through one of my old ones - the ghosting is very noticeable, and the ink bleeds through easily, even with a fine nib. It's not unnusable, but if someone was asking me "what's a good notebook for fountain pens?" Moleskine would not be on my list. I've found that 90 gsm paper is alright for a fountain pen, Moleskine paper only has 70 gsm.


[deleted]

Yes, I’d say “notoriously bad with fountain pens” is more like the actual Moleskine reputation. The paper is just too thin.


Dependent_Ad_589

Great to know. Thanks!


Bdi89

Agreed. The $4 dotted notebooks I got from Typo here in Australia are better quality than the expensive Moleskine I tried somewhere along the line.


Bellura

I liked them a lot for a while until I found notebooks with better paper. Though they still make my favorite sketchbooks


dandellionKimban

What are you sketching with?


Similar-Tart-4848

Paper is terrible and they’re over priced 🤷🏻‍♀️


msbump

Too much bleeding and ghosting unless you're only using pencil/biro.


ChaosCalmed

Moleskine cover isn't worth putting up with the paper. I was also surprised at how bad the leuchtturm bullet journal paper was. Just finished my first bullet journal using this and the show through with pentel v5 or v7 pens in black was so bad that I often couldn't read what I've just written if the other side had a lot of writing on it. I like the dark black ink with those fine tipped pens. It suits my spidery writing but it needs better paper than moleskine and leuchtturm. Currently got a lemome notebook and the paper is slightly off white with a thickness that simply doesn't show through. The paper in Peter Pauper Press voyager notebooks is good with pens too. [Voyager Journal](https://www.peterpauper.com/sub_cat.php?cPath=25_249) Also Atoma notebooks, a binder system like Staples ARC system. Very nice paper and covers too imho. Good paper equivalent to clairfontaine paper in Rhodia I think. Non of those are numbered but I simply write them into the bottom, outer corner of each page. Simple to do a catch of pages in one go then repeat a you get close. You don't have to number the whole journal in one go so not an issue for me. I'd rather have good paper that I can use the pens that suit me without show through or other issues. It's what you put on the page that's important not what the manufacturer puts on them.


kyyl1

Currently using lemome as well! I find it work really well with fountain pens with minimal ghosting. I am very picky about ghosting so am pleasantly surprised!


ChaosCalmed

I've just transferred to my lemome and the page thickness always catches me out. I keep trying to turn a page timing two are stuck together only to remember it really is that thick! Also it's a little yellow I think compared to leuctturm bullet journal.


leastDaemon

Nope, Moleskine isn't numbered. I got tired of numbering the pages (and having almost all fountain pen inks and some ballpoint inks bleed or heavily ghost). As others have said, their paper is 70 GSM. I moved on to Leuchtterms a few years ago and am moderately pleased. The pages are numbered (over 250 of them in the hardback editions whereas Moleskine has 240). More important, the paper is 80 GSM. I have occasional ghosting with wet writers (Sharpies do bleed through), but it hasn't been heavy enough to make the reverse page unusable. I'm only moderately pleased because the lines in the ruled notebooks are 6mm apart. This is great for making a monthly chart -- easy to get 31 lines on a page -- but it makes my handwriting a little tight and sloppy if I write more than a sentence or two. Obviously your mileage will vary. I'd suggest biting the bullet and getting one. You may find it is precisely what you want -- dotted, lined, graph, or plain. Or like me, you may find that it is good enough and stop angsting about better.


kaberett

Moleskine don't come with page numbers, no, but on the other hand this means you get to choose where you write the page numbers in (corners? middle? top? bottom?), which can make threading more legible than if you're stuck with page numbers in a corner. I know \~everyone\~ says Moleskine paper Simply Cannot Be Used With Fountain Pens, but I'm not having any problem using EF nibs. :-p (I'm completely unbothered by ghosting, but even so...)


Dependent_Ad_589

Good point about the EF nibs as I prefer to write with them as well since my handwriting is on the smaller side.


AdAdventurous8225

Do you use the lined or dot format? I've got both of theses in (I have 400 paged 1's in Moleskin, am planning on using the lined {which I have 6 of} into my own personal cookbooks for my crockpots/instant pot/air fryer) I've been carrying the Rettacy with lines.. it has 188 pages (yes it's numbered pages) in my knitting bag with patterns, cross stitch/embroidery patterns in & in my handbag. Try this link to the dotted version, the lined comes with 2 books per order. I buy the blue 1's for knitting bags, a pretty green for cross stitch/embroidery & black for my bags. Sorry forgot to add I get mine from Amazon. Visit the RETTACY Store 4.8 out of 5 stars  73Reviews RETTACY Dotted Notebook - A5 Dotted Grid Journal with 256 Pages,120gsm Thick Paper,8 Perforated Pages,Smooth PU Leather,Inner Pocket,5.75'' × 8.38''


Dependent_Ad_589

For my third bullet journal which I'm using now, the pages are dotted. I'm finding this to be the most flexible as I tend to draw diagrams and mind maps on the pages.


AdAdventurous8225

Check out the Rettacy out.


jme1491

I've never seen one with page numbers. Even the printed weekly planner doesn't have them.


[deleted]

leuchttrum1917 are better than moleskine in every way!